#pheem wc

[cornflowershade]

pheem though. he's so. he's so. !!

when they decide to stay at the club, before any of them can exchange words or get to know each other at ALL

he's immediately at the guitar like, Nice found my new gig!

once they start talking, his first order of business is finding out who lives alone and then he immediately asks a girl he's never spoken to if they can be roomies

next day he's immediately offering to be his new roommates wingman (feat. these two great lines)

[we'll skip the part where he turns out to be a genius evil mastermind or whatever. i do not trust him but also i trust him the most. does this make sense?? -> (ok half true i probably trust Tam more. but Pheem makes me feel the most at ease??)]

soooo anyhow after he moves in with May, in the MIDDLE of a conversation— (no like literally no beat, just as a response to something very unrelated being said to him)

Guitar Boy mode activates & he picks it up and starts playing Hook at May (yes we remember you were in msp <3)

followed by what has to be. just. sorry. my favorite set of lines from him in these first two episodes [delivered with a tone of genuine excitement and eagerness]. he's so weird for this i love it:

(literally this is so unintentionally funny)

[girl give him a break my boy is obviously neurodivergent and trying his best. love their dynamic btw she's so unimpressed LOL]

anyway then he agrees to Stop Being Weird (lovingly, not possible) and proceeds to Stop Being Weird™ by leaving and coming back with food he has apparently pre-prepared, announcing it very formally and then making a quizshow out of it

which has to have the best conclusion ngl

your honor i adore him

[ranchthoughts]

Note on the GMMTV multiverse! In Wednesday Club this week, Satang’s character sang Hook. I’d say this means that MSP probably exists in the WC universe as a TV show (and therefore Satang as an actor, who I guess would be Pheem’s in-universe celebrity lookalike). At the very least I’d say Gemini as an artist must exists in that universe, since he’s the original singer of the song covered.

Amaaaaaazing. Thanks for sharing!

So MSP is a show in the WC universe. MSP and The Eclipse are in the same universe (see here). Is The Eclipse also a show in the WC universe? Bad Buddy is a show in the MSP/The Eclipse universe (Tiw suggests Tinn watch it). Is Bad Buddy also a show in the WC universe? Or is it a fictional show made up for the in-universe tv show MSP? Did the WC universe also get the MSP OurSkyy 2 episodes, which depict the au!MSP universe? If they did, then au!MSP is also a show in the WC universe (and since Bad Buddy, ATOTS, and HCTM are TV shows in the au!MSP universe - are they therefore shows in the WC universe too?). Much to ponder.

As you point out, Gemini is both a singer and an actor in the WC universe (plays the character Tinn and sings the original Hook). Satang exists in the Wednesday Club universe as both the character Pheem and as the actor Satang (who plays the character Sound on the show MSP), just like how Nanon exists twice in the Bad Buddy/ATOTS universe (as both the character Pran and the singer Nanon).

GMMTV having their own roster provide the soundtracks really does make this more complicated...

It's been a while since I've dived into the GMMTV multiverse but maybe I should dust it off and give it another update... 🤔

(latest iteration of the GMMTV multiverse is here, and here is the latest version of the multiverse map!)

[cornflowershade]

𝗪𝗘𝗗𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗖𝗟𝗨𝗕 | 𝗘𝗣. 𝟮 —𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘰𝘯𝘦, 𝘪𝘵'𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘭.

[cornflowershade]

by the way i loved his messy hair in this scene

that is all. goodnight.

[cornflowershade]

i mean. the shirt's not wrong.

[ranchthoughts]

GREAT POINTS

Ok so what questions are we dealing with here:

MSP exists as a TV show in the WC universe. Therefore, does the line referring to the actors OhmNanon and the show Bad Buddy mean the show Bad Buddy and OhmNanon exist as shows/actors in the WC universe, or are they a fictional tv show and fiction people mentioned in the TV show MSP? -> I agree that we don't have conclusive evidence that Bad Buddy exists/that OhmNanon are real actors in the WC universe

MSP takes place in the same universe as The Eclipse. If MSP is a TV show in the WC universe, does that mean The Eclipse is a show in the WC universe as well? -> this is even less conclusive, in my opinion. Just because The Eclipse takes place in the same universe as MSP doesn't mean it is also a TV show to other universes, and to the same universe as MSP.

Vice Versa exists as a TV show in the WC universe. Theory of Love, SOTUS, and 2gether are TV shows in the Vice Versa universe (famous lines from those shows are used as secret passwords). Does this mean that TOL, SOTUS, and 2gether exist as TV shows in the WC universe as well, or are they fictional shows made up for Vice Versa? -> I would argue it's probably more plausible that these shows exist as shows in the WC universe as well, because their whole presence and usage in Vice Versa depends on them being cool show references/Easter eggs for BL fans. Not impossible that they are fictional shows, but certainly their inclusion as cute in-jokes would be weirder.

Akk and Theo from Enchanté get a cameo in the show Vice Versa (in the alternate universe the characters visit, an alternate universe version of Akk and Theo are shown on their wedding day). Does this mean that Enchanté exists as a TV show in the world of WC as well? -> again, weird inclusion if Enchanté isn't a TV show in the WC universe, but to me, more easily explainable than the famous lines thing from TOL, SOTUS, 2gether (it's much more of a blink and you'll miss it moment, and doesn't really refer to Enchanté *as a show*... I can't remember if they mentioned Akk and Theo by name), so I think this is inconclusive.

Do other Ohm/Nanon projects exist as shows in the WC universe, if Bad Buddy is a show and they are actors in the WC universe? -> I would argue that this is also not that conclusive. If Bad Buddy exists it doesn't necessarily mean that actor!Ohm and actor!Nanon have had the same filmographies in the WC universe. But! it is possible.

Did the WC universe version of MSP get Our Skyy 2 episodes? Are they the same ones we are familiar with? In that case, the au!MSP world depicted in the MSP Our Skyy 2 episodes references three TV shows: Bad Buddy, ATOTS, and He's Coming to Me. Are ATOTS and HCTM also TV shows in the WC universe, or are they fictional shows made up for the MSP OS2 episodes? (same conundrum as Bad Buddy above) -> this isn't as conclusive as we don't know if the MSP aired in the WC universe had Our Skyy 2 episodes, or if the WC universe Our Skyy 2 episodes would even be the same as the ones we know. However, it is possible.

Further implications:

Ohm and Nanon were both in Vice Versa. Therefore, in the WC universe, Ohm exists both as the character Kong and as an actor. If Ohm and thus Nanon are already confirmed to exist as actors in the WC universe, does this make it more likely that Bad Buddy is real show and that the OhmNanon referenced are real actors? -> I would argue this is pretty good reasoning for accepting the existence of Bad Buddy as a show in the WC universe. Ohm and Nanon already exist as actors, and an Ohm and Nanon have been referenced as actors in the TV show MSP... why wouldn't those be the same Ohm and Nanon twice.

Along the same vein... Satang was in MSP, therefore he exists in the WC universe as both an actor and as the character Pheem. Satang was also an actor in Bad Buddy. Therefore, if Bad Buddy is a show in the WC universe, actor!Satang has two projects. -> again, is this more reason to accept the existence of Bad Buddy as a show in the WC universe? We already have actor Satang... this could be another actor Satang moment... less conclusive than the Ohm and Nanon stuff laid out above, I think, but still interesting to consider.

Piploy is in Wednesday Club as the character May. She is also in Vice Versa, which is confirmed to be a TV show in the WC universe. Therefore, Piploy exists in the WC universe as both the character May and as an actor.

Ohm was also in He's Coming to Me. If the version of the show MSP that exists in the WC universe had the Our Skyy 2 episodes we are familiar with, which reference HCTM, then that would be another project for actor!Ohm in the WC universe.

Like Ohm, Singto is also in HCTM. He is also in SOTUS, which is referenced in Vice Versa, a TV show that exists in the WC universe. Is this further proof that SOTUS and HCTM are probably both TV shows in the WC universe?

Film is in Wednesday Club as the character Tam. She is also in the show 2gether. 2gether was referenced as a TV show in the show Vice Versa, which exists as a TV show in the WC universe. If 2gether is a show in the WC universe too, then Film would exist in the WC universe both as the character Tam and as an actor.

There were a lot of GMMTV cameos in Vice Versa. For example, Mix appeared as a veterinarian named Mix and Tay as a food delivery driver Tong Tawhan. Does this mean that Mix and Tay exist as actors in the WC universe? -> not super conclusive, but again, would be a weird in-joke to include in the show Vice Versa if the audience watching wasn't familiar with Mix and Tay as actors in their universe.

Bad Buddy takes place in the same universe as ATOTS. The Our Skyy 2 episodes of Bad Buddy were a crossover with ATOTS. Therefore, if Bad Buddy exists as a show in the WC universe, and had the Our Skyy 2 episodes were are familiar with, then ATOTS would probably exist as a TV show in the WC universe too. Furthermore, Piploy was an actor in ATOTS, so if ATOTS was a show in the WC universe, Piploy would exist in the WC universe both as the character May and as an actor. Piploy is already in the WC universe as an actor (she's in Vice Versa), so does this strengthen the argument that ATOTS is also a TV show in the WC universe and Bad Buddy is too? This might be too much of a stretch.

Gemini exists as an actor and artist in the WC universe (he is in the show MSP and sang the original Hook). He also appears in Bad Buddy and Moonlight Chicken. Is this further proof that Bad Buddy is a real show in the WC universe? Does this mean Moonlight Chicken is also possibly a show in the WC universe? I would argue it's very inconclusive that Moonlight Chicken exists as a show, at this stage. But this may further strengthen the idea that Bad Buddy is a TV show in the WC universe.

Other thoughts:

Film was in Angel Beside Me, Dark Blue Kiss, Dirty Laundry, Double Savage, Home School, I'm Tee Me Too, Not Me, Three GentleBros, and 2gether

Kay was in F4, Home School, and 55:15 Never Too Late

Nani was in F4 and Home School

Ohm was in An Eye for an Eye, Bad Buddy, Blacklist, Double Savage, He's Coming To Me, The Shipper, Vice Versa, and 10 Years Ticket

Phuwin was in 'Cause You're My Boy, Dark Blue Kiss, FUTS, NLMG, The Gifted, The Jungle, and The Warp Effect

Piploy was in Angel Beside Me, ATOTS, Blacklist, Enigma, The Shipper, Vice Versa, and 55:15 Never Too Late

Satang was in Bad Buddy, Double Savage, FUTS, MSP, SIMM, The Gifted

If we are looking for more actor!Ohm projects that may exist in the WC universe, Ohm was in shows with Film (Double Savage), Piploy (The Shipper, Vice Versa), and Satang (Double Savage).

Furthermore, Film and Piploy were both in Angel Beside Me; Film and Phuwin were both in Dark Blue Kiss; Film, Kay, and Nani were all in Home School; Kay and Nani were both in F4; Kay and Piploy were both in 55:15 Never Too Late...

@chickenstrangers also reminded me that The Jungle takes place in the MSP universe too, because they reference going to see Chinzhilla the band. Does this mean The Jungle is also a show in the WC universe? Like with The Eclipse, I would argue that this is not very conclusive at all.

Note on the GMMTV multiverse! In Wednesday Club this week, Satang’s character sang Hook. I’d say this means that MSP probably exists in the WC universe as a TV show (and therefore Satang as an actor, who I guess would be Pheem’s in-universe celebrity lookalike). At the very least I’d say Gemini as an artist must exists in that universe, since he’s the original singer of the song covered.

Amaaaaaazing. Thanks for sharing!

So MSP is a show in the WC universe. MSP and The Eclipse are in the same universe (see here). Is The Eclipse also a show in the WC universe? Bad Buddy is a show in the MSP/The Eclipse universe (Tiw suggests Tinn watch it). Is Bad Buddy also a show in the WC universe? Or is it a fictional show made up for the in-universe tv show MSP? Did the WC universe also get the MSP OurSkyy 2 episodes, which depict the au!MSP universe? If they did, then au!MSP is also a show in the WC universe (and since Bad Buddy, ATOTS, and HCTM are TV shows in the au!MSP universe - are they therefore shows in the WC universe too?). Much to ponder.

As you point out, Gemini is both a singer and an actor in the WC universe (plays the character Tinn and sings the original Hook). Satang exists in the Wednesday Club universe as both the character Pheem and as the actor Satang (who plays the character Sound on the show MSP), just like how Nanon exists twice in the Bad Buddy/ATOTS universe (as both the character Pran and the singer Nanon).

GMMTV having their own roster provide the soundtracks really does make this more complicated...

It's been a while since I've dived into the GMMTV multiverse but maybe I should dust it off and give it another update... 🤔

(latest iteration of the GMMTV multiverse is here, and here is the latest version of the multiverse map!)