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heartofstanding · 2 years

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I love it when historians go "we need to take this relationship as seriously as this other relationship" before seguing into how the other relationship is totally fake and made up and perpetuated by hack historians.

#ricardians demanding that eleanor talbot and edward iv was real and not a cynical claim by a usurping king...#then saying it should 'at least' be taken as seriously as catherine de valois and owen tudor #and then turning around and arguing that catherine's 'tudor' children were actually fathered by edmund beaufort #a certain edward ii historian making this argument for edward ii and piers gaveston compared to isabella of france and roger mortimer #and then claiming that unlike catherine de valois (apparently)#isabella had too much sense of her royal dignity to fuck roger mortimer who after all wasn't a king like edward ii #(and no i'm not pulling the 'unlike catherine de valois' thing from my arse)#(this historian literally goes 'isabella had too much royal dignity to fuck mortimer #do not cite catherine de valois to me she's an entirely different person')#(fair but it also seems like she's saying a queen would only fuck a non-royal if she didn't have a sense of royal dignity right?)#text posts

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