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#so maybe by s3 they were like oh shit well this is gonna be longer than the war but like they still didnt really know
muirneach · 2 years
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well i dont see mash as a timeloop because it fundamentally just. is not one. BUT also i think the whole ‘theres 11 seasons and only 3 years of war’ thing is stupid as hell. one season does not necessarily one year. some episodes take place over a few hours, usually they take place over a few days, one episode takes place over a year, sometimes they skip some time in an episode. its never ending and repetitive in the sense that they do the same thing every day but time also does pass. also it’s never ending in the sense that they will never truly leave because it will impact the rest of their lives profoundly (which i think is more interesting to explore anyways). anyways even if every mash episode was one day that would only be 251 days which isnt even a whole year. so that line of reasoning is sooo annoying. people complain about the 11 seasons thing too much. like did you want them to hit s3 and throw up their hands and be like well i guess we wont do that anymore! no its a great show and people wanted more seasons obviously
#so mash IS purgatory but its NOT a time loop. we are all on the same page now yes?#anyways im sure we all have our own ways to fit the 11 seasons into a reasonable timeline#i think an important thing to note is that whenever they give dates; they didnt know how long the show was gonna go on for#so maybe by s3 they were like oh shit well this is gonna be longer than the war but like they still didnt really know#anyways for me personally s1-3 were approx a year (cause hawk says he and trapper were friends for a year and also other reasons)#and frank and charles to me were there for approx the same amount of time so each got half the war#so s6 is the rough midway point#but the rest of the seasons are kind of whenever#now a lot of the time they give a specific date they say 1951. like the whole show they say 51. which is strange. but again they didnt know#and they didnt want to rush it in case they got more seasons#but i disregard that#like that one episode that takes place over a year is soo wrong. it was NOT 1950 in the beginning of that ep lmao#like bj and potter DEFINATELY did not arrive in korea in 1950#but like the plot is the same you just gotta bump it up a few years#oftentimes you can roughly tell what season an episode is in but they wildly jump around the seasons in one singular season#<- critical levels of homonyms happening there but you know what i mean#anyways. just because the writers sucked at continuity doesnt mean that the war somehow took 11 years#its all about how you squish it in!!#m*a*s*h#is this mean sorry#literally when i first got into mash i drafted a post about this very topic#because even before i knew ANYTHING about mash i had heard this line sooo often before#but its silly! obviously the war still takes three years but they made more seasons fit into that timeframe its FINE. who cares#there is like. three seperate points being made in this post sorry its mostly about the 11 seasons thing but also about other things too#also the war took place over 4 years not 3 (50 51 52 53 is. four years) but people are bad at counting years#so whatever we all say three years because 50-53 seems like it should be three years#so whatever ill say 3 years too but im giving you a disclaimer anyways
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amizuki · 1 month
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small edits of the epilogue designs of the main 5
(not including Eda, Lilith and Vee, I think they look okay and I honestly dunno what to change with their designs)
btw these are all gonna be edits of the renders from the owl house wiki, because my drawing skills are too ass to draw designs from scratch
Luz:
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'ight, I gotta get this out right off the bat – I fucking hate Luz's ugly as fuck pants
everything else in her outfit looks great – I love the snake on the jacket (and how it kinda blends in with the stripes on her shirt), I love her wearing the striped shirt she was wearing in the pilot and I love that she's wearing Amity's old necklace, but the pants are just the worst. this shade of yellow looks like shit, doesn't fit with the rest of the colors (apart from maybe her eyes and part of the necklace, if you wanna stretch it) and those dumb patches just make her legs look busy/cluttered. so, I removed all the patches and made Luz's pants beige, similar to the ones she wore at the end of season 2 (that whole look was honestly really good, sad it was only used for a couple episodes).
oh and I also slightly tweaked her hair because it just looked weird to me. I dunno why, but both her slicked back hairstyle in s3 and the epilogue hairstlyle always looked off to me, and I can't quite put my finger onto why.
Amity:
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I made a post on my sideblog a while back where I explained why I thought the hairstyle Amity had in the epilogue didn't really fit with how I interpreted her overall hair change over time. basically that whole post boiled down to:
Amity with a high ponytail/high bun/etc. – represents Amity under her mother's control (since Odalia has almost the same hairstyle)
Amity with her hair down or with a low ponytail/low bun/etc. – Amity is no longer doing what her mom says, she's making her own choices now
so seeing her go back to having a high ponytail in the epilogue just didn't sit right with me. and that's why I decided to give her a braid. since Willow cut her hair short and no longer has two braids, I thought it'd be nice to instead give a braid to Amity. I also wanted to try and make it a two-colored braid, since I didn't really know how else to incorporate her brown hair color to the hairstyle (I didn't want to just go for the simple "make one side of the hair purple and the other brown").
I liked how the Grom crystals were added into this design, I thought it was a pretty nice callback to the episode where the whole Grom dance happened, and so I kept them in my redesign as well – putting them as a part of a headband.
the remaining changes are super minor – I made her pants slightly longer, since them being knee-height looked kinda weird to me, and changed her earrings from these big, black (and kinda ugly lol) triangles to the ones she wore in "Reaching Out", so there would be a bit more yellow in the design to match Amity's eyes.
Willow:
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this one doesn't have that much changed to it. I kinda wanted to do something with Willow's hair, but in the end decided against it, since I think her short hair, while looking a bit too simular to Luz's debut hairstyle, is still pretty cute.
I really liked the gold glasses she got in season 2, and so I made her glasses here gold as well. not only because I like them better, but also to make it match with her yellow top.
I see that they tried to do this whole asymmetrical thing with her legs – one leg has a knee pad and the other doesn't, one leg has a sock and the other, again, doesn't – and I'm not against it, but the fact that Willow only has one sock just looks off to me. so I gave her her second sock back, but made the other one yellow, to still kinda keep the asymmetry (and to, again, add more yellow to the design, so it wouldn't just be her top and bracelets).
...also slightly changed the main color of her shorts, because that shade of green looked ugly to me.
Gus:
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(this one has even less changes than Willow lol)
my man just straight up lost all his blues
if you go to the owl house wiki and open the page with Gus' designs, you'll see that all of them have some shades of either blue or teal, and occasionally green in them (with the exception of his Halloween costume, that became his season 3 outfit, which is mostly pink-red). and since illusion coven's color is light blue, it makes sense to add the colors of his coven to Gus's outfits. but in the epilogue bro's just covered in yellows and browns, with the only blue being his pants. so that's the only thing I changed – made his vest and glasses blue, to return at least some of his illusion magic's color to him.
the outfit itself looks alright, he looks a lot like a teacher, which is what he is by the time of the epilogue (though it is weird that, despite being 16, he looks more like he's in his mid 20s lmao). I'm not entirely sure why he's suddenly wearing glasses here though, since I don't remember him ever mentioning having eyesight problems or even wearing contacts before (but maybe he did mention it and I just don't remember, I dunno), but eh, whatever. he looks alright with those, so I didn't remove them. but yeah, apart from the lack of blues in his outfit, Gus looks the best out of the main 5.
Hunter:
(had to enlargen his png with a random ai, idk why the one on the wiki is like 5 pixels large, who tf made it so small lmao)
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yeah, so, uh, the obvious question here... why does Hunter look like Caleb again?
wasn't his whole thing supposed to be how he's not just another Grimwalker? not just another copy of Caleb? not just Caleb? isn't that's why he decided to cut his hair, and specifically his Caleb-like fringe, to not look like him (and to simultaneously not look like Belos)? he even looks at himself in the mirror at one point in TTT, before he gets possessed by Belos, and says "I like who I am now" or something like that, I don't remember the exact quote.
and then Hunter not only gets his Caleb Hair™ back, after Belos possesses him, but he also gets Caleb's brown eyes after Flapjack brings him back to life, now making Hunter look EXACTLY like Caleb! which, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't this exactly what Belos wanted? a perfect copy of Caleb??
at first I thought that by the time of the epilogue he'd cut his hair again or style it differently, to not look like "Caleb 2: electric boogaloo", and so I just tolerated how he looked in FTF and WAD, thinking "eh, alright, he obviously won't cut his hair again anywhere in these episodes, everyone's busy with making Boiling Isles normal again, it'll probably be somewhere at the very end of the show, when everything's good again". and then, lo and behold – he did not, in fact, cut his hair, and he's still just Caleb™...
cool
ignoring his hair – the design itself looks nice. I especially like the addition of Abomination, Illusion and Plants patches he sewn onto his apron, and, unlike Luz's pants patches, these actually work pretty well with the whole look, plus it's nice to see him add small things that represent his friends to his outfit (only one of Luz's patches represented anyone, which was Amity with that Abomination patch, and then it's just two random pictures that don't really represent anyone)
the main thing I wanted to change was his hair, just like with Amity. judging by this concept art it does seem like they wanted to give Hunter different hair, to not make him look like Caleb 2.0. (dunno why they decided against it though, that was pretty dumb of them).
so I basically just took the first hairstyle here and slapped it onto Hunter. apart from that, the only things I changed were that I made his sneakers pink (since his Grimwalker eyes were pink and I kinda thought I'd bring a bit of that color back here) and added some accessories to his arms – a glove on one hand and bandages on the other. I couldn't give him two gloves, since the right one would cover the Flapjack tattoo, so instead I put some bandages from splinters there (inspired by the same concept art where I traced the hair from).
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and that's it.
again, I didn't do anything with the timeskip designs of Eda, Lilith and Vee, because I think they generally look okay and I don't really have any ideas on how I'd change them. as for every other character's new looks – I really don't care that much about them lol. Camila and Boscha look good, King barely changed, so he's pretty good too, and everyone else I barely even remember.
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