#there is a fundamental difference between the boys and kie

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the sooner we (read: you people) realize kie’s parents aren’t shitty for wanting better for her the sooner we can be normal

[philtatosbuck]

kie critical i guess but kie does not understand the boys in the ways that they understand each other and she is drowning herself in trying to be a pogue so bad that she is ignoring that the boys did not become pogues or outcasts by choice, they do not have the same luxuries she does, they were not just pushed out of the popular kids crowd. kie thinks being a pogue is about something specific, maybe faith and loyalty and fighting to the death, which in some ways it is. but she also has a blind faith and loyalty to them. the boys were born pogues and they fight for each other so hard because they don’t have anyone else fighting for them. there’s things to being a pogue that kie doesn’t understand because she’s never had to live as a pogue and. god. it’s really evident in the scene where jj has to point out to kie that pope is everything a pogue is. they understand each other in a fundamental way and it’s not to say that kie isn’t one of them, that they don’t love her or vice versa, but that is to say she is overcompensating for a lot. for ditching them, for not being there when john b’s dad disappeared, for having a better life than them. it’s hard to even word it because i’m not discounting all kie has done for the boys or her love for them. i’m not discounting that kie would go down swinging for them but i’m saying that kie can go down swinging and will be able to get back up because whether she acknowledges it or not (and she doesn’t. her not acknowledging the luxuries she has that they don’t irks me badly) her parents can get her back up. she’s choosing them time and time again but it is exactly that for her, a choice. there’s no choice for the boys. they will choose each other, but they are also all each other has and they need each other. i need kie to actually grapple with the fact that she is not on the same level as the boys are and that her parents aren’t evil for wanting her to pick herself and stop putting herself in danger unnecessarily. i need to see her realize the differences between her and them and properly learn what it is to be there for them while not trying to pretend she’s on the same level of anything they are