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@gertrudehatake replied to a post:
(I know it's two years later but) What kakashi was "doing" to be sorry about?
totally fine to ask a question two years later! honestly, i really don't feel like that comic did a good job of explaining itself, and i don't mind explaining for it, in its absence.
this is gonna be a bit of a long response because that comic was supposed to have a lot going on...but in practice...it doesn't hold up.
Basically, they're having a conversation beneath the words they're actually saying, as they do frequently when I write them. The "underneath" conversation they're having is as follows (TW for discussion of Kakashi's self destructive/suicidal tendencies):
TENZŌ: You're not protecting yourself in battle. You're letting yourself get hurt. I'm beginning to be afraid that you want to let yourself get hurt—maybe that you want to kill yourself.
KAKASHI, who doesn't want to talk about being suicidal: Maybe I don't. Maybe, I just trust you so much that I don't have to be as careful in the field. TENZŌ:
TENZŌ: That was a fucked up way to evade the question. TENZŌ: Even if that was true, which it's not, that was an extremely fucked up thing to say to me. And for what? The crime of being worried for you? KAKASHI: You're right. sorry. sorry.
it's messed up because Tenzō is confronting Kakashi about his very real self destructive patterns, and Kakashi, instead of being honest and acknowledging them, or even being honest and saying "I really don't want to talk about this" tries to sidestep the conversation with an alternate, explanation, that he's just so comfortable working in this team that he's not afraid for his life. Which is bullshit. He's not taking this seriously, he's dodging. Maybe, he was even thinking he could avoid it while complimenting Tenzō, talk about how much they trust each other and how much he values that bond, instead of talking about how little he values himself.
The problem is, the way it comes off, especially to tenzō who, unlike kakashi, is worried for Kakashi's safety and life, is that it sounds like Kakashi's saying "I only act like this because you're here" which is both untrue and something that is really upsetting to hear.
kakashi, who obvs knows what it is to blame himself for the death of a friend, is immediately incredibly sorry for having said that, once its made clear to him how that sounds. Its not an incident he's going to ever repeat
like i said...the comic doesn't do a good job of explaining itself. It kind of needs me to stand beside it, explaining for it. I think that now, with the skills I've gained in the past two years, I could remake it better...but I also don't think I would?
This particular angle of their relationship...I don't think I see it in the exact same way that I did back then. If I were to make a comic abt this topic again, I don't think I'd make it in the same way at all
anyway, I hope this was useful, or at least interesting to you!
#yamswers#this is honestly maybe one of the darkest comics ive got on this blog#suicide mention cw#suicidal ideation cw#i have so many criticisms of that comic but the core emotional center of it still interests me#it was so long ago#most of my criticisms about the comic are that like. i dont feel like i conveyed tenzō's reaction to it very well#i remember showing this one to kate and saying ''ough. this one is spikey. this one is spikey. it needs gloves to be handled.''#but ultimately...the comic doesn't feel like it needs gloves to be handled. its lukewarm#the conversation theyre having beneath the dialogue is utterly lost in the toneless trudging of the comic#anyway yadda yadda yadda#yadda yadda yadda#i really think they both had a horrible time in anbu like absolutely dogshit time.#and kakashis nice and tenzō DOES love and respect him a whole lot. canonically#but i also dont think its a coincidence that Yamato's Modus Operandi is so different from Kakashi's#I think the fact that Kakashi was so reckless in anbu (and lets be real. even as a jōnin) is because he protects people by throwing himself#in harms way for them#yamato telling naruto and sakura that he Does not and WILL NOT do that. and trying instead to protect them by preparing them for#any possible following scenario...is. i feel. a direct response to the leadership he recieved in anbu#anyway. im glad that kakashi got pulled from anbu and that they had that good 6 year period between kakashis dismissal#and yamatos appointment to team 7 where it seems like they both kind of went their seperate ways for a bit#kakashi at least seems like he did a lot of healing during that time#also ghhsdghsdhg nobody take me criticizing my own work as being ''mean'' to myself i promise im not#i know what makes a good comic and i know i missed the beat on this one#and thats not just okay. its good...failure is what u learn the most from + i cant do that if i dont acknowledge where i fail#maito gai rules yfm?
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