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not-souleaterpost · 6 months
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20th century boys - the anti "Monster"?
So I read 20th century boys for iceberg research, and because I did like the previous work "Monster" and it was.... Well I have very mixed toughts, sadly a lot of them arent positive and if I tried to vocalise everything it could sound more negatitive than I actually think it is (as a 17 min voicemessage to a good friend proofed lol)
But, instead of bitching I thought I'll focus on a single point, one which seems kinda obvious but that I havent seem mentioned.
20th-century boys is like a parody or a response of his own work "Monster"
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Like, spoilers ofcourse, so lets start
What is "Monster"? You often see it described as "super dark and realistic, a perfect anime to be adapted into live action!"
But is it really? It has a magical killer child with an face of an angel, a weird supercomputer cop with a funny quirk, a literal manbaby nazi leader, etc.
Still what does that have to do with 20th century boys? Well because that series IS about childish manga tropes, about how unrealistic they are and what the reality to fulfill them would be (well thats one of many things but lets not get ahead of oneself)
And it kind of attacks or critques the concept of the evil genius - instead of some demon child with a tragic backstory, the villian of friend is a petty manchild, one that was petty since childhood, whose "trauma" in many ways was just a charachter flaw from the start (well there is more too that, but the whole multiple friends twist/retcon would be too much for this short little ramble I'm spinning up)
But there is another aspect - not just parody, but response and "addresing critques" - like people complained that in Monster Johans finall plan was too low stakes, so the authors says ok, now Friend actually does take over the entire world!
And not just that he trys to kill billions of people with even some childish fantasy bomb supposedly being able to destroy a whole planet!
Still it depends on how charitable you are - is it passive agressive in making things as big and dumb to make a point of how childish that actually would be or is it doing it to correct a flaw that many fans complained about?
Whatever the case, there are more things ofcourse, like the main charachters being the opposite - from a hypercompetent doctor to a incompetent hasbeen - both ending up with long hair to complete the parralle.
But listing everything of is kinda irrelevant. What is interesting in the end is how his work, intentionally or not, build on each other, are in dialog and show the evolution of the guy and the change in times and scene.
And maybe this is enough to actually try Billy Bat, even if many things dissulosened me from the idol that the author is - so much that I forgot his name.
But if not and I waste my time again with a overly long manga that meanders cause it doesnt now what it trys to say, I hope the author sends me letter with the words:
Yeah...sorry
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stupidlovergirl · 1 year
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Human TV I Think They'd Watch
All the Bros and Dateables
Dev Notes:I have been watching Kitchen Nightmares while writing and how I think Barbatos might like it,, and then it lead to what human world TV they might like,,, maybe spent a little to much time on it instead of working on WIPs
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Lucifer
Really likes old people TV
He watches things like How It’s Made, National Geographic documentaries, if he wants a little laugh those shows about “aliens”. Skin Walker Ranch is his dirty little side piece TV show
He just enjoys educational shows because they are easy to tune out
Really loves Soap Operas. Young and the Restless and General Hospital are kept up with religiously(hah). He, Diavolo, and Barbatos usually watch it. Dia really likes it and Barbatos watches when working with Dia second hand while doing work. He latched on after watching it in the background a few times.
Also, just the news. Mans will put on a 24 hour news station and will keep it on for like, 5 days. 
Mammon
He watches Harrison Porter, so give him the joy that is Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit.
Would also enjoy the Spiderwick Chronicles movie since he doesn’t know how bad it was compared to the books
Just a big fantasy fan honestly. Loves them.
On another note, he also loves trashy reality TV and News. The only one who beats out his love for celebrity gossip is Asmo. When he is putting on a TV show to go brain dead to its something from TLC, like 90 Day Fiance, I Love a Mama’s Boy, etc. 
He watches the Kentucky Derby, bets on it a lot (loses a lot too)
His dirty secret show/movies are Hallmark movies. He watches them when he won’t get caught. Hopeless romantic nerd (Affectionate)
Leviathan
You’re joking
You’re joking right?
Anime or DIE!!! (/hj)
Also really popular fantasy movies based on books. He will rip them to shreds when you watch them. Can be fun if you read the books, annoying if you haven’t.
Has a soft spot for magical girl animes, obvi
There isn’t really much to elaborate on, half of his personality is anime and nerd stuff.
Just a few favorites I think he might have with no explanation:
Tokyo Mew Mew, Yugi-Oh, Death Note, Naruto, Angel Beats, Lucky Star, Soul Eater, Watamote, Saint Tail, and Cowboy Bebop
Satan
King of detective shows
He loves trying to find them out
It is canon he loves the Devildom equivalent of Midsomer Murders, so just show him that too
I think he would like Forensic Files too.
Also, thriller movies. And psychological horror movies.
He loves them, he typically can predict an ending, but it's nice to see how they write out how the characters themselves find out
Asmo
Trashy reality TV!!!!!
He and Mammon watch 90 Day and Mama's boy and talk shit about them.
Loves Maury, Jerry Springer (rip my king), Parent Court when he's feeling a little frisky
Next Top Model and RuPaul's Drag Race. It's about the DRAMA! The OUTFITS!
Watched part of Euphoria but honestly? Found it mid. Sorry but he just couldn't understand the hype after the writing started to plummet.
Has watched Jersey Shore, will not elaborate on his opinion.
Tbh, he also doesn't really watch much because he feels like he has better things to do with his time, he only watches it for Brotherly Bonding, and for background noise
Beel
Haha, big guy hardly watches TV
Watches workout videos primarily
He likes learning new work out and dietary things
Has been banned from watching any type of food shows. Sorry Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives.
Will participate in movie night, primarily for food, buhe does pay attention
Honestly just watches whatever someone else typically puts on with no complaint
Belphie
Much like his twin, doesn't typically seek out TV watching.
Much easier to watch on his phone
He does enjoy satisfying videos
Watches Rug cleaning videos, silly ASMR videos, Video essays when he can't sleep and gets curious. Loves obscure media and icebergs.
The essays are about the only thing that goes on the TV
Sorry but he just doesn't care much.
Will also participate in movie night, almost always falls asleep. Still can tell you the entire plot of the film.
On a very rare occasion will watch South Park. Will not elaborate on this one.
Solomon
Loves old TV shows to some newer ones
I Love Lucy, The Twilight Zone, The Muppet Show
I cant really explain the Muppet Show, but I know its true, it is in my bones
Honestly loves older sitcoms. They just hit different.
Can I mention I Dreamed a Genie and Bewitched? Classics in his eyes. Would fight to the death for them
Will make a off hand comment on how he doesn't feel like TV is the same anymore
Watches reality TV in the background when Asmo turns it on when he lounges in either one of their rooms
I feel like I just can't explain most of these, but they are the truth in my heart and that is enough
Simeon
Haha...What?
Watches whatever Luke or Solomon puts on or whatever someone else would suggest
He has a preference for books most of the time I feel like. Just goes with the flow
Just suggest something and he'll put it up for the next movie night when it's his choice
I really can't think of one he would pick oops.
Barbatos
He watches whatever Diavolo puts on in the background. Likes the Soap Operas some times, gets a little annoyed with anime voices when he has a migraine.
Kitchen Nightmares and Hell's Kitchen just hits right for him. Loves the insults
He doesn't much watch TV either though. Prefers audio books since they are easier to carry around
You essentially have to beg to watch TV with him, he's a busy butler ya'know?
Diavolo
KING OF FLEXIBILITY
Has watched all of it, and will continue to do so.
Has a special place for Soap Operas and Ruri-Chan
Seen all the classics, the new block busters, all of it
Honestly you wonder how he gets the time?
He really likes consuming stuff, so he does it when he is working on paper work he puts on the subtitles and turning the audio on low and going HAM
Couldn't be me, I would get distracted
For the most part he's watched it all, and what he hasn't is on his to watch list. He just likes talking to his friends about it :)
Luke
GREAT! BRITISH! BAKE! OFF!
He likes seeing the different foods
It inspires him so much, it's so cute watching his eyes sparkle as he sees something he likes and he writes it down on his phone
Also, he really likes watching Bluey. He lets Simeon and Solomon, and Barbatos found out (because he knows everything), but would DIE if anyone else found out
Also likes early 80's and bad CG horror movies. Kid literally laughs and Mammon is losing his mind next to him. I think because of the bad effects it makes it more tolerable.
Killer Klowns from Outer Space slaps man what can the kid say?
I think I'm projecting hard onto him,, but he's my son so it doesn't matter
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