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"AI can make art without human interaction because at the end of the day, it does exactly what humans do with art - break each new piece of art down to the quantifiable basis vectors that you've implicitly constructed about 'art in general' and then faithfully reproduce a new observation of that 'art in general' by smoothly interpolating between observed instantiations of those basis vectors.

You know, like how humans do"

#the joke is that it can be argued that if you do art like an ai youre not necessarily doing art youre producing commodities #assumption being that 'art' stands in an internal tension with a society whose subjectivity is shaped by the commodity form #which i think is pretty inarguable - the argument is over how that tension can be reconciled #i think a salient difference to point out that distinguishes human from ai is the countability of the set of basis vectors #i wouldnt disagree that humans do 'break down' art in some capacity - otherwise 'style' would be entirely singular #the point is really 'how many numbers are there between 0 & 1?'#'how many subcategories are these qualia broken down into?'#i think creativity & externality depend on uncountably divisible qualia #some kind of infinity needs to sneak in somewhere to point to the outside #all this to say @ anon lol for thinking ai is like an ontological evil #but also lol @ anyone who treats the form of AI as isomorphic to the form of human activity #taylor series can absolutely objectively represent certain analytical functions - as long as the error is monotonically negative #ie so long as each subsequent member of the series 'gets closer' to a natural representation of the analytic function #mandatory disclaimer for new followers:#human use of ai for artistic purposes is art - ai cannot generate art without human interaction at some point in the sequence #ideology of the blackbox is the same as the ideology of plug-and-chug #(i know theyre the same because they transform similar inputs to similar outputs!)#& im on mobile so cant move this tag back up but i dont necessarily agree w the maximalist take of 'commodified art isnt art'#but i also think there is a qualitative difference between commodified art & non commodified art #& the ai form is actually pretty isomorphic to the value form in general imo #it cant replace all human labor but it couldnt replace any concrete human labor ...#...if that concrete form of labor hadnt become reducible to that which can be reached through gradient descent #also if u argue that the black box of 'ai breaking down art to make new art' is isomorphic to 'human breaking down art to make new art'#then an implication of that is that ai ***can make art without human interaction***#otherwise if the blackboxes are isomorphic then why have humans in the loop? whats the qualitative difference?#the proper framing is seeing ai as an augmentation of the decision cycle of humans instead of having a 'decision cycle' themselves

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