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<3 i'm glad lol!!
you totally should, psychology has been a special interest of mine for over 12 years so i've been actively studying like crazy and my entire world revolves around it essentially. even if you don't get into the profession yourself, having the skills and education surrounding it goes a super long way in social settings and for your own mental health too
why exactly are you so dead set on using the term cult anyway? what exactly does the word "cult" have that other alternatives don't? seriously ask yourself this question and then reflect it on real life instances of cults and ask if you would say the same thing. because with how you're responding to me it doesn't seem like you're actually taking it seriously at all, assigning roles like "blood ritualist" doesn't seem like something you'd do if you took cults seriously either, i don't understand
why do you care so much?
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all good! again don't worry about it too much. i'm literally a training therapist so i know a thing or two about stuff like this and understand you had good intentions and everything else, i'm not mad or hold it against you and i'm not gonna like. condemn you for being human or anything. the fact that you're owning up is enough to me
i understand it's really easy to see things that make you upset and react emotionally without thinking, especially when you want to stand up for something you perceive as right or harmless
why exactly are you so dead set on using the term cult anyway? what exactly does the word "cult" have that other alternatives don't? seriously ask yourself this question and then reflect it on real life instances of cults and ask if you would say the same thing. because with how you're responding to me it doesn't seem like you're actually taking it seriously at all, assigning roles like "blood ritualist" doesn't seem like something you'd do if you took cults seriously either, i don't understand
why do you care so much?
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i appreciate your apology and i appreciate you owning up to being hostile/not handling this properly, and i want to reassure you that it's fine and i get the point you're trying to make too. again i'm not here to start drama LOL i never was and still am not
i will be 100% blunt with you, i am not being a dick and wasn't being a dick, and i won't apologize for it. i'm always happy to admit i was wrong if i was, but any hostility or aggressiveness or emotion that you see in those messages are not actually there, but i can understand you're only perceiving it that way from your own trauma. i was 100% chill and none of those asks are emotionally driven and aren't even remotely done with the intent of hostility or arguing. i think people tend to get a little too...? eager to take confrontation as aggression but i am a full grown adult and i really have better things to do with my time than get upset and heated over things like this. because as you said, yes, this is a very minor instance of someone bastardizing my trauma, so i'm not going to get totally bent out of shape about it. but i am still allowed to gently approach someone telling them what they're doing is wrong and harmful and apply clarification where is necessary. i approached this situation with maturity and the intention to spread awareness and understanding of how issues like this can affect real victims, and now OP is posting and reblogging posts about cult awareness which is Honestly all i wanted was for there to be more awareness being spread about it and taking the topic more seriously
again i wish to stress that even "oh my god i love this character so much" ""cults"" are harmful and adding to the issue too, and continue to add normalization and stigma behind the actual label of what cults are. i approached OP with the intention of telling them that what they're doing is harmful and nothing more as a hopes that they would understand and either stop using the label or at least be more vocal about spreading awareness or educate themselves more on the topic. because honestly, IMO, if you actually understood cults to a more intimate degree i don't think you would WANT to use them in a joke-like context. again using my same point again: if you wouldn't do it about things like trafficking rings, why is doing it with cults suddenly okay?
i agree that it's okay to make jokes about your own trauma to cope (at least to an extent before it gets too unhealthy). but to my understanding, correct me if i'm wrong, neither of the founders of this blog HAVE cult trauma or experiences with actual cults. you are not 'desensitized' to cults or cult related trauma, you just simply don't understand cults on a more intimate level and have no direct experience with them to actually feel the emotional outrage you should be feeling. this isn't meant to be belittling or say "you don't actually care", i mean this in a 100% serious way, even my friends who care heavily about me and care about my trauma do not fully grasp the weight of how serious it is for me and don't have experience or education surrounding cult trauma to actually BE sensitized to it to begin with. because honestly cult trauma is only something that's so difficult to understand without experience
emotional regulation is something that's incredibly important to practice and achieve, and it's something i recommend looking into through therapy (if you have access to it, i understand not everyone can). having the skills to step away and catch your breath and refrain from acting on emotion and let yourself cool off before saying anything is something that i highly recommend looking into and practicing. it's helped me a lot to, when i get emotional, take a moment to vent about it in private and get my thoughts together before approaching the issue directly. at the very least being able to have a 2nd opinion or making a draft or Something to look over and reflect on puts a little bit of a pause between you and your direct response to avoid letting yourself lose control of your emotions
i understand you're just trying to explain, and i appreciate your POV, and i understand a lot of the "overexplaining everything to avoid misunderstanding/conflict" thing because i have OCD which causes me to do the same thing LMAO i just want to let you know that a lot of your response does feel like making excuses for yourself (particularly the "i was on my period and grumpy" part), but don't worry too much about it because i still get your point and i'm not upset or mad about it or anything
why exactly are you so dead set on using the term cult anyway? what exactly does the word "cult" have that other alternatives don't? seriously ask yourself this question and then reflect it on real life instances of cults and ask if you would say the same thing. because with how you're responding to me it doesn't seem like you're actually taking it seriously at all, assigning roles like "blood ritualist" doesn't seem like something you'd do if you took cults seriously either, i don't understand
why do you care so much?
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no you know what. if you want to open this can of worms and try and start an argument then i'll go all out lol. dig your grave then lay in it etc etc. i expect a well thought out response to this
i have a genuine question for you. do you tell rape victims to just "let it go"? do you tell victims of domestic abuse or assault or CSA to "let it go"? when you make a joke about real life people's real life trauma, don't get surprised when victims of that trauma come approaching you telling you to stop. it's really not that hard to understand and wrap your head around
people on this website get so defensive and take everything as a personal attack. you don't know anything about what harassment is. having a discussion with someone (that they could have very well answered privately mind you) about something they're doing wrong is not 'harassment'. i kept sending asks because they kept missing my point and i was clarifying and asking them justified questions. if you can't handle someone approaching you like that on the internet without you fussing and getting upset and claiming harassment or freaking out and getting defensive, then you're not mature enough to have the word "cult" in your mouth in the first place
why is it that joking about cults is okay, but it's not okay to make jokes about trafficking rings? is it because my trauma is more "palatable" for you? is it because you find the cult hierarchy system "cute" or "funny"? i want a genuine response telling me EXACTLY what you see in cults and why you're turning my trauma into a joke or a fun aesthetic
why are you fighting for your life to use this word? why does the word "cult" matter to you more than respecting victims? these are all very justified questions that aren't being answered because i'm only getting responded to with hostility and defensiveness rather than people actually giving me normal answers and having a mature conversation with me
trust me, i DO cater my life on the internet. i live a very blissful drama free life. i just happen to be a confrontational person and speak my mind when i see a problem i want to change, because i am a passionate person about spreading information about important topics like trauma, mental health, or other nuanced and widely misunderstood topics
i wouldn't have sent any of those asks at all if it was really such a non-issue. i have been enduring and experiencing the after effects of people doing stuff like this because currently all of the modern, typical exposure people have to cults is stuff like cult of the lamb or fandom-based groups online that should just be called clubs, associations, organizations, literally ANY other word
people's only perception of cults is light hearted, fun, palatable versions of the word that make it seem like it's not as bad as it actually is. people hear the word cult and think of severe cases that people automatically assume only happened years and years ago. the cult i'm currently in is a lot more subtle and covert, and people rarely actually ever talk about modern cults, or the fact that cults CAN be online, or anything
you're essentially normalizing this and normalizing online groups and giving them a space to disguise themselves too. you're normalizing the word, the hierarchy structure, even terms like "blood ritualist" which is a very real role that people get programmed into in real life cults that even my own partner was forced into doing
if you don't have the maturity to grasp why this is an issue then keep the word out of your mouth. tell me exactly why it's okay to do this but it's not okay to do it with other forms of trauma. this isn't "joking about dark subjects", because you're not actually taking into account the real life effects this can have on someone. my life was ruined by my cult and it gets under my skin seeing people turn it into a fun roleplay joke or an aesthetic
your condescending response tells a lot about your maturity. of course i know the internet isn't my "personal comfy pillow fort". but no change is made by staying silent about it. i have been very vocal about people making light of cult trauma for ages now because no one will start taking it seriously if no one is actually vocal about the damage being done in contexts like this
change is made by protest. change is made by action. if i ignored everything i saw that was hurting victims, then people would continue thinking it's okay, and people would continue to do it with no care or consideration for victims. you can't "ignore things you don't like" your way out of taking accountability for harmful behavior
why exactly are you so dead set on using the term cult anyway? what exactly does the word "cult" have that other alternatives don't? seriously ask yourself this question and then reflect it on real life instances of cults and ask if you would say the same thing. because with how you're responding to me it doesn't seem like you're actually taking it seriously at all, assigning roles like "blood ritualist" doesn't seem like something you'd do if you took cults seriously either, i don't understand
why do you care so much?
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