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I both agree and disagree with the last anon. Unlike what the majority of people think, to me it seems nonsense to think Taylor was putting all the I want to marry you songs, while being with someone who didn't want it. It makes much more sense to me that she put those songs because they had talked about it, it's not like he was pretending not to listen. There were plans and they were secure enough about each other for her to put out those songs. I know Taylor likes to play the victim and all that, but she is also not dumb. Like bfr she wasn't putting those songs hoping he would listen and give her a ring lmao so what do I think happened?
While I agree Taylor grew up around the idea of marriage and all that, I don't think she's that into the committement and settling down part of the equation. I think she loves the idea of marriage as in like a fantasy yk. But I think she is kind of scared or not really sure of the realistic part of what that entails, the compromises she might not be keen on making. I think in her head she wanted to marry Joe and having children and all that. But it was more like I can see that happening with him, but let's not put a timeline of when it will happen because I'm not ready yet and my career is the top priority of my life. Now if you are planning on having a family BOTH parties involved have to be aware that includes prioritizing that and planning your life around and with your children in mind.
So what I think happened is that Joe wanted the marriage, but eventually changed his mind. Not because he didn't want it anymore, but both because he felt like she wasn't ready for it to happen in the near future and also because he wasn't as sure anymore if he wanted it with her. If her as a person and the lifestyle she lives are the kind of thing he wants forever.
And you might ask well but why only think like this now? Because the Taylor of a few years ago was making an actual effort to have a life as normal as possible. The Taylor after the pandemic and specially since Midnights is back to courting attention. Be honest, seeing how she's acting now doesn't it make you wonder how their wedding was going to be invaded, how much more public she wanted them to be if they were still together, how she keeps adding tour dates after tour dates so who knows when her schedule is actually going to stabilize. I'm going to be honest you looking at all of this I wouldn't feel like she was planning a future for us and having me in consideration. I would feel unsure if I wanted to keep putting on effort and waiting around until she decided to come home.
To me, it's quite simple actually. They were having issues already because of the different opinions and in personality/what the other wanted. And Joe started to wonder well I'm not happy in this situation, like is this really the kind of thing i wanted to deal for life? Why should I agree to marry when I don't see her in that mindset and I'm not sure myself if she's the right person for me anymore? Why should I go for it and marry her when she's back to her old ways, being addicted to the spotlight, disregarding my need for peace and to keep our relationship as away from attention as possible? Why should I stay in this relationship if the things she said she wanted a few years seemingly changed and she changed to the point where it feels like she was just going along with what I wanted?
And if he knows a fraction of what she has been up to since late March, I think it only confirmed to him that her personal growth had an expiration date and she's back to high school aka he's more than glad he trusted on his instinct and didn't press on the marriage thing. Because I think he wanted it to happen sooner than later, she wasn't there yet and he realized maybe she never would be. Atleast not in the way he hoped for. Tbh just looking from the outside, her life seems exhausting. I can't imagine what must have been like not to be into this kind of life and go with it because you love the person and want to be with her. Years of this sound exhausting and I'm sure for a long while the good parts must have outweighted the bad, until last year that is.
I love to read your takes on their breakup, keep it coming
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Okay, so... can anyone explain to me WHY the only career that seems to matter to swifties' is Taylor? Why is it that when Joe didn't attend the opening night of the tour because he was on set as an actor doing his literal job he was deemed a shit boyfriend, and then when we thought for a few hours that Travis might not show up for tour (in a whole different continent while on his only off week in the middle of a difficult part of the season) he was immediately called out for not being supportive? Those to me seem both great reasons to miss a tour stop! And I'm glad Travis is able to be there, don't get me wrong, but still...
Also, the reason Taylor was able to uproot her life and follow Joe around and the reason she was able to attend like four different games is because: 1. She's her own boss 2. She can afford to work whenever she pleases 3. She's so rich that she just has all the resources to go where she wants and work from wherever. Other people are on her time schedule, she's not on anyone else's.
Travis is not in that position, and Joe sure as hell was not in the position to pass up a job opportunity just to attend the first night of tour.
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Joe Alwyn, living his life and minding his own business
Swifties
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Mentally I’m still at the reputation stadium tour
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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJwEyyBA/ thoughts? I follow Qt Cinderella (the woman talking) on twitch and she is a massive Taylor Swift fan and idt she'd make up something
ig one part of it was unbelievable but, I hope it's true, but also, idc if it's true or not. It can be true. I can't say really. I did always think it at least started as pr. But I also don't wanna get attacked by the swifties if you know what I mean.
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Fave Taylor Swift photoshoots?
the folklore one ig. Or the rep one which was taken by the frosty crew because iykyk!
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Fave Vault tracks thus far? (Fearless, Red, Speak Now)
Red for sure. I mean nothing new? Run? Babe? And don't even get my started. Absolutely my fav vault tracks so far
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Wish Swifties would stop making fun of Joe Alwyn even Taylor has moved on or is at least attempting to
Oh ofc she's definitely trying to move on. I obviously miss Joe and i always will in this context, but he deserves everything but the brutality and hate from people. And yes, I wish swifties would stop bullying him
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I still think they might reconcile in a few years and I admit that's a long shot as they have shown to be different people but life is weird and nobody fits in simple narratives
i agree to that. That is possible. I thought a lot about that just after the news and this isn't something completely delusional or impossible to think about. The most important thing is if they have a good character development and then only, it'd be good for them to find a way back to each other
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About your random thoughts. I prefer to think that he is thinking about what life will bring for him. Only in him. I don't like the idea of her being in his thoughts. I know she probably is in them. But honestly, I feel disappointed in how she handled the situation. She could have done things differently and how she is doing them. Maybe he feels disappointed in her too. I don't know. But it's good that he focuses on his thoughts, because things get better once you take the time to analyze the changes in your life, even if it's hard. Time to heal is always the best. I don't know if she can do it that quickly but it's up to her.
yes to all of that. That is an interesting perspective anon!
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i swear I'll answer my dm and inbox soon. School is keeping me busy😭😭😭 and i don't wanna answer you guys in a hurry!!! Lots of love<3
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SOUR SIXTEEN IS FINALLY OVER!!! happy birthday to meee!!!!!
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thinking about this tweet
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hate how most of the taylor fandom has turned against joe
yeah, travis may be nice but i don't think anyone will be a muse like joe
also, personally don't see the spark between them at all
there is so much news about them that it all feels too manufactured honestly
and what if they don't work out, will these fans still support her, or just call her a serial dater like she was once infamously known
my point was be happy for her but don't hate joe, he saw through the hate and still chose to be with her
and right now, taylor is like number 1, who wouldn't want her?
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I hate it when i smile to someone and they don't smile back wow ok famous.
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I am not fully over the Jaylor breakup, but I am losing hope of their reconciliation. But here is what I am going to say.
I am so grateful that that relationship happened. That relationship and the breakup taught me so much about...stuff...
Their relationship though private, taught me so much.
They taught me that love isn't black and white. It isn't just love or hate. It is a beautiful mix of feelings. A golden mix of feelings. Love is a beautiful combination of happiness, comfort, a true friendship, intimacy, trust, honesty, laughter, loyalty, understanding, patience. But keeping aside all the happy feelings, love is also filled with angst and gloominess, sadness, fights, jealousy, tears, hurt and loneliness at times.
They taught me that true love can be messy, complicated and a difficult thing to do. They taught me that a relationship is perfect despite having the flaws like trust issues, commitment issues, hurt and tears.
The real thing that matters is if you stay with them during their happiness and sadness. And he stayed for her through it all.
Their breakup taught me that forever is a lie. This is not in a sad way, but the truth. If not life, then death would definitely come in the way of forever. Not every beautiful thing lasts. However, just because something extremely beautiful came to an end, that doesn't mean it was never good once.
Their breakup changed my perspective towards relationships and life. Their relationship got me through the hardest times ever in my life. I am just glad I could witness some of it as a fan:)
I will never not miss Joe and Taylor together. I am a child of divorce:(
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This feels like he is looking forward to yk? Like after a big chaos in your life, you just sit out at a peaceful place alone and just with wine and just look nowhere, thinking about life. The way he is looking at the scenery in fronnt of him, it just displays some maturity, like, 'taking correct decisions can be tough. Breaking up with her was the hardest thing to do, but the right thing. Life will have something better for me and her. This was a difficult, but a right decision and I am glad to take this decision. To all the hard and right decisions" Like he's just thinking of life and everything sitting there alone and drinking wine in peace. It's as if after a big heartbreak and a long day, you just sigh and take q bottle of wine and just sit in silence, no words and just you and your thoughts. It's like he knows he took the difficult decision and he's proud of it and even though it's difficult for him now, he's in such a hopeful state that he knows that life will give him and Taylor better. Idk, just my opinion.
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