theangryjikooker

[theangryjikooker]

So.. what do you think is happening with Jikook? Have they swayed your opinion in the last 2 years from what you previously thought? I been kinda over here with my jaw dropped at some of the the tmi they been giving away. Their discharge live gave me so much flashbacks to Jimin's birthday live, like they're never gonna change are they lol.

No, they’re just as close as I remember them to be.

I operate within the boundaries of what I can see, and I don’t enjoy speculating outside of it. In AYS, there were probably only one or two moments that were moderately brow-raising to me, but only in the sense that it’s not something I would do. Which isn’t to say that just because I will or won’t do something implies something about their relationship if they do/don’t behave in a way that I perceive as “normal.”

As far as what I’ve seen since they’ve been discharged? There’s nothing uniquely new that they’ve done that warrants the overzealousness from shippers I’ve seen since then.

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It’s so funny seeing big name Jikookers on Twitter backtracking and pretending they care about Jikook. THEY NEVER DID AND IT PISSES ME AWFFF. Theyre trying to defend their privacy now because of all the backlash. Smh

Yep.

And you can call them out and criticize them all you want, but it’s really difficult to de-platform these shippers when none of them ever takes accountability for anything they do that crosses the line—which they do often—and when they have continued support from other Jkkrs.

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No because if you actually cared about their privacy you wouldn't even mention about them travelling the first time anywhere unless it's coming from official media and if it's not you just don't acknowledge the topic at all because talking about it in any capacity is just the same as Posting those leaks.

Also i know most of the leaks are first shared by the ppl who spotted them together and those accts were actually inactive and came just to share that they saw jkk but then the others are posting it without any shame. Heck even some are posting about their switzerland hotels like ain't that stalker behaviour? Mind you the first ones posting it are so called k-jkkrs the ones i-jkkrs holds as standard.

Sorry, when I say I don’t care that people are sharing them, I mean I’m indifferent to the practice I just realized I said the same thing with the intent of being specific. 🙄 I absolutely do not share BTS’ schedules publicly or privately because I don’t have a reason to. Even if I did, I’m not a die-hard fan that I need to be aware of their whereabouts because I’m invested in their lives or have a point to prove.

But when we’re talking about leaks that have already reached enough eyes that taking it back is impossible, passing judgement on those who want to get on the same wagon because shippers are purposefully tempting their audience with knowledge others don’t have or vague tweeting? That’s unapologetically hypocritical, and they have no leg to stand on when other shippers try to gain the same footing.

And if you’re already invading their privacy in other ways, which includes partaking in intimate discourse that is, at best, a fantasy? That’s also an invasion of privacy. If you legitimately cared about them, you would take the content they give you—and only what they give you—at face value (bit of a broad stroke because it begs certain questions about how the industry operates, but this is a different topic altogether).

K-KMs and I-Jkks are shippers at the end of the day, and they’re both to blame. Either side suddenly caring about Jkk is due to optics because they certainly didn’t care when it passed their eyes, if their flailing tweets and posts are of any indication.

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So many Jikookers are telling people not to share photos and videos of Jikook because it’s their “private time” (I’ve heard reports that there are staff with cameras, just not a whole crew but regardless…) but it gets under my skin that they can say this and at the same time talk about it openly to feed their audience and at the same time dangle a carrot in front of everyone but also say it’s not for you. What do you think about leak?

My thoughts are:

If these users—and I see them plenty on here and Twitter—do any of the things you mention, or have shared them with mutuals privately—then this is just gatekeeping with a fistful of moral superiority. Talking about where they are and what they’re doing isn’t any less invasive because there aren’t photos to pair them with. What makes that different is that it’s just hearsay, and that obviously has different implications.

Every single shipper is lying if they think they truthfully don’t love the leaks, and love talking about it with others, because they help to corroborate their narrative. Jkkrs are having a field day, and you can’t blame them; there’s no doubt that doing so is fun and builds community.

But what’s galling to me is that these shippers are often the same people who fantasize about Jkk’s sex lives with each other, as if that’s not already an enormous and gross invasion of their privacy—not to mention untrue as far as we know—and say that respecting their privacy is of utmost importance. Seriously?

These shippers absolutely do not care—at least not in a way that doesn’t make them hypocritical.

I don’t care that anyone shares them because once the first photo/video is released, it’s on the Internet for good. That’s the first rule of the Internet, and it shocks me that people think in this day and age that it’s something that can be stymied. But I do care when you participate in any way and use your platform to tell others not to do the same.

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hey what do you think about jk and his make tokyo great again hat? i’ve seen several takes on it and like, i don’t know how i feel as an american who hates what’s happening here & how i feel about jk/bts and their level of responsibility to world politics.

To preface this: I welcome back OT7 wholeheartedly and have been celebrating their return here in SK with friends. This really should have been the highlight in my once in a blue moon posts, but various iterations of this question suddenly flooded my inbox (as an aside, I appreciate that some people still think my opinion is worth reading, but it’s also funny to me).

I’m of the opinion that it’s not their responsibility to know or speak up on political strife. Sorry, not sorry. Politics have a lot of nuance that they’re just not well-equipped to talk about. They can certainly have general feelings about different platforms, but it’s a slippery slope when they start honing in on topics outside of their purview. I often see fans demanding they speak up on world politics because of their influence, but it’s not their job and they should have never been put in a position where they’re expected to be not only entertainers but political experts, and to know how to behave in response to what’s going on worldwide. Is it great when they do and simultaneously understand the significance of what they’re talking about? Yes, absolutely! But I don’t ever expect it from them, and I don’t fault them for it either.

But if you’re the kind of person who expected OT7 to speak up against Scooter (and HYBE for their willing association), or speak up against the Palestine genocide, or speak up against the war between Ukraine and Russia—these of which are political points that were/are popular in ARMY circles, despite the fact that there are other crimes being committed in other countries—you should not be surprised that some people are upset over a “silly” hat because it’s not just a hat. It doesn’t matter if schmucks all over the world appropriated a slogan to turn it into something jokey or clever because that slogan is also a representation of what some people didn’t want and actively fought against. Their loss has ongoing consequences, traumatic and terrifying for some, and we’ve not seen the worst of what’s inevitably to come if there’s no change. Personally, the hat doesn’t bother me, but I also know there are people who find any reference to the slogan incendiary—and I don’t blame them.

Do not turn this into a “but genocide is worse!” argument because that’s obviously not the point I’m making. You do not get to cherry pick what political points matter if you care about politics in general and felt disappointed that BTS didn’t/can’t/couldn’t say anything about what matters to you. Because where do you draw the line? You can’t. If you get a say, so does everyone else. You can see how this all quickly devolves and why I’m against celebrities in politics.

(For the record, I didn’t and don’t condone the evisceration of JK for wearing that hat. The comments he received were disproportionately scathing for what could have been approached more gently and advisory.)

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Are you still around? I kinda wanna rant lol.

Feel free! I’m around, as in I check in here occasionally, but the asks have been more or less the same (not that it’s bad, but I no longer have the energy to repeat the same things over and over). This + the move + dealing with the aftermath of the fires has made me less inclined to dabble in what are otherwise extremely casual hobbies.

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How’s your move to Japan coming along?

It’s bureaucratic hell.

Japan loves paper, but so do our lawyers who are thankfully doing the heavy lifting.

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Glad Jungkook built like 5 floors then, cause according to this fandom. Jk's pregnant girlfriend will live on one. Tae on one. Jimin on one. At least he made sure everyone got a floor. lol

Polyamory really is all the rage these days lol.

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Ahhhh you’re back!! 🧡🧡🧡 maybe not everyone enjoys it but I for one missed y your snark. Delusion is fine once and a while but I also like being humbled hahaha

LOL you’re cute. Thank you.

Not really back, just popping in quickly.

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Any thoughts on the theory that jungkook built the house so jimin and him can live privately together?

Lol I don’t know what kind of discourse I missed, but I’m glad I did.

I’d like to appreciate their bond in peace—no romanticization, just pure appreciation—without anyone trying to insert the fanfic of their dreams into it.

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wondering if you’re ever coming back. i need grounding from the shipper madness.

My practical advice is to go on frequent social media (and fandom, as a result) diets.

I think it’s a good thing that there’s nothing substantial to talk about.

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Not Jikook-related, I’m afraid. I’m just venting.

We’re paying someone $275k/yr for a job that requires less work than an overemployed SWE who automates their work does in a day.

I like to think we’re not so privileged that our judgment is clouded, but maybe I fucking missed something.

The major con and arguably the hardest part of the job entails flying to our three properties in three different states. Only 1 or 2 weeks on average/month for 9 months of the year is needed (one home per month).

Because we’re planning to move to Japan for a few years to explore whether we want to make that permanent (which is partly why I’ve been MIA), we would’ve required a bit more from her, so we said we’d increase the pay to $425k/yr. We’d still come back so she gets the same # months off (or my parents would step in), but we would’ve needed some minimal admin as well like opening mail, letting us know if a light needs to be changed—really small things like that.

But I guess that wasn’t enough. 😑 We’re planning to let her go because her counterpoint left us bewildered and shocked because she felt we could afford more (once or twice she’s had access to our financial documents to file away, which is where I think she got the idea). She’s not wrong, but the work we require of her most certainly does not justify that kind of raise at all, especially given the perks of the employment already (W2, health + dental, miles accumulated are her own + flight reimbursement, etc.).

The friend who recommended her thinks we should give her another chance, but I’m getting strong icks from this. It’s also somewhat violating that we entrusted her access to parts of our life that she ended up trying to leverage in her favor, which is what bothers me the most.

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lol i have a theory & i swear it's just for fun bc i'm so tired of the tae slander but WHAT IF. what if he took a backseat in ep 5 bc he's used to (and tired of!) jikook's game of flirting LOL (don't hurt me this is just for fun!) i kinda got that feeling when they were cooking the bbq and flirting in front of my SALAD like what kinda foreplay... anyway. if i were tae i'd be silent too ngl bc how tf do you participate in smth like that?

I only eat anons for breakfast on occasion. 😉

But this is actually really funny because the moment you mentioned was also an example of Jkk's dynamic I would've ended up talking about at some point. It's just so... quintessentially them.

I don't know if I totally agree that TH is resigned to what he's brought upon himself or if what we're seeing is really him when there's nothing actively going on, but I can see the fun and humor in it. I would consider him the type to be 😐 in a situation he doesn't want to be in, but his poker face has always been top notch as well.

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Didn't JM think the mattresses were the same? Not that he didn't realize JK would prefer the firmer one on the floor?

I rewatched it again, and JM offers to sleep on the bed on the floor, but JK rejects it saying he will because he doesn’t like overly soft mattresses.

JM asks, “Aren’t they the same mattresses?”

I took that to mean he was genuinely asking because—context—he was offering JK the bed to be gracious about taking turns on the floor (which, by the way, can we appreciate his consideration for others? 🥺).

You can try to make the case that JM already knew his preference, but if he did, JK wouldn’t have needed to explain his dislike for soft mattresses. It would’ve made more sense for him to say, “That one’s too soft” or “That one’s firmer” with the understanding that JM is already aware of his preferences.

If you (not you, anon) want to argue with me on it, go right ahead, but if you read the original post carefully, you’ll know that the blasted bane of my existence mattress is NOT the crux of the issue here. It is only one of many inconsistencies, both small and large, between them.

Basic reading skills is lost on the Tumblr generation, I’m about to pound down a bottle. 😒

(Neither here nor there, but to JM anon, this is also my favorite look on him. 🪭)

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Man if i had a friend like jimin I'd consider myself the luckiest human for having such a great friend. I have always thought of him that way and the more i watch the urge to have a friend like him just grown. I connect to him well hence why he's my bias so I'd love to be friend him.

On the topic of hair yesss show that forehead jm, I'm tired of middle partition and ban that ass mullet cause no-one looked good in that haircut cause it's a shit haircut 😂 Also hoping that dior contract is over cause if i see him in those oversized suits again i might combust. Having jm andn not giving him well fitted clothes when he's got The perfect outlines is a joke. i know everyone miss the middle yrs era jimin the most but i guess he's kinda over it. Hoping to see little bit of it in future. I always used to think that jm kinda had the best styled clothes exactly suitable for him but nowadays like u it's a hit or miss. But again it's about his comfort so anything is fine as long as he's fine.

Who wouldn’t want JM as a friend? 😭 (Losers, that’s who, but we won’t go there.) Funny enough, though, I would get on best with HS and JK because I’m very social (it is my lifeblood) and I’m a big adventurer and thrill seeker—give me all the new experiences, and I’ll give it a shot.

THANK YOU! I kept mum about his LC cut for the longest time, but my hatred for it conquered. 😂 And I’m genuinely pissed at Tiffany, Dior, and anyone else who dropped the ball with him. Was it Rolling Stone where he jumped and used his body lines to his advantage for the camera? Hair slicked back? Because chef’s kiss, honestly.

But yes, his comfort and preferences are paramount—if he’s happy, that’s all that matters—but as somebody who likes fashion and photography (purely as a hobby), I would love to see an outrageously bold spread for him.

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It definitely has nothing to do with not having reading comprehension skills but everything to do with not liking what's being written. Jikookers are lashing out because someone is "destroying" their beliefs. I'm the same, a Jikooker who tends to firmly believe that Jikook are in a solid relationship for years, and every time they do or say things that doesn't at all align with the image I have of them in my head, I shut it down pretty quickly. Ignore, scroll past, delete, fast foward that specific moment and file it away mentally as "insignificant" and I make it a point to always avoid it in future. And then I go back to my safe cocoon which is "Jikook supporter" spaces where everything is rosy and everything JK and JM say and do is definitive proof of their everlasting love for one another.

And when someone has the audacity to point out the exact moments I work so hard to ignore, I get mad and I feel triggered to say something to counter them. If I cannot do that (as in if I genuinely can't think of anything to say to counter those very valid points they made against the possibility of JM and JK as a couple) I go to Jikook blogs to complain about what "haters" are saying about Jikook's bond, basically just asking them for validation. And when they do, the burning in my chest eases and I feel secure in my ship again.

That's the way it is. And it's so wrong, but I can't help myself and I think it's the same for many shippers, in any ship. It's hard to let go. Even when you reach a point where there's that voice in your head trying to convince you to be logical, there's this other side that just keeps on clinging and just wants to keep spiraling deeper and deeper into that safe space.

Because it really hurts, for some reason, to let go after believing in something so deeply to the point where it becomes a very important part of your life. But this is not a healthy way to live; we see it with how people have turned the fandom into a very toxic, unpleasant environment. We see it with how Taekookers have been harrassing people for years, have threatened harm on others as well as themselves, and are not above insulting the family members of the ones they claim to love and support. Jikookers may always boast about being sane and unproblematic compared to Taekookers, but I really don't think we are very far off from reaching that level of delusion and acting that way if the way they've started to react to Taehyung doing or saying anything regarding JK or even just the thought of him breathing next to JK is anything to go by.

So no matter how much it hurts, I'll force myself to read blogs and posts like yours and open myself up to spaces outside Jikook shipping (with the exclusion of Taekook shipper or solo stan spaces, of course) because I don't want to become miserable and toxic.

And I really wish Jikookers would do the same, try to be a little more neutral and logical, and that there would be more Jikook blogs on Tumblr like this one. This is how we'll be able to create a healthy shipping environment.

Interesting perspective, and thank you for sharing.

I know that one Jkkr isn’t representative of the masses, but while you’re not the first one to say so, you go into a lot more depth and vulnerability than I’ve ever seen any shipper say to someone who doesn’t align with their views.

I think I said in a much earlier post that I can empathize with how difficult it will eventually get for shippers if their idealized version of reality doesn’t match actual reality because they’ve dedicated a lot of time, energy, and emotion into what is arguably just a fantasy. Standard sunk-cost fallacy.

I think people who’ve followed me longer already know that despite saying what I do, I’m always open to the possibility that anything I’ve said is wrong/I’m wrong about them. I’m not particularly willing to hedge bets on it, but I’m vocal enough and often that I sound like a broken record to myself.

I think this is where I butt heads with a lot of shippers because my stance isn’t attached to the pride of being right; I just have opinions and share my observations and any glaring inconsistencies. With toxic shippers—as was the case since I opened this blog and why I started it in the first place—it’s their way or the highway.

Anyway—again—thank you. Food for thought for anyone else interested.

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Do you take asks about jimin being damn Pretty in every episodes and actually looking more beautiful when he wakes up from his sleep? Man had stomach bug nd woke up next morning and looked one of his bests lol.

#something different Lmaoo

Yes! I love when people break my asks up with other topics.

Not relevant to how he looks when he wakes up, but oh my god, I’ll be the first person to say that his hair/style choices in Ch. 2 have been really hit or miss for me. His look for Like Crazy was offensive to me, don’t even talk to me about it. 😂

I’m not an interactive viewer by any means. I don’t yell or talk out loud/respond to things as I’m watching a show in real-time, but I did squeal a little bit when I saw his opening look in E5. That’s a big deal to me lol. That hair with the billowy plaid? I need to see him in more of those clothes, but more importantly, get his hair off his forehead forever, thanks. But nothing is superior to his undercut (LGO a close second).

Bring this beautiful bastard back.