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They may not be there physically

But I know in my heart that they take off during/around holidays/birthdays (they also stalk their kids social medias)

Bob/Melinda say they have 5 kids (they call Sam/Chris their honorary kids)

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Bob/Melinda say they have 5 kids (they call Sam/Chris their honorary kids)

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I posted this on Reddit a LONG time ago. But here are my Until Dawn headcanons!

Josh's medical file saying he had incidents at school: I think they were based on emotional outbursts, but I also headcanon that he got in violent altercations with kids if he caught them picking on Hannah (for being shy and a little odd) or Chris (for being nerdy). He just went into angry big brother mode.

I think, in the past, that Mike and Matt tended to hang out a lot since they're guys, and Chris and Josh more hung out with each other. But, during the year between lodge visits, Chris and Mike began hanging out more. Chris was starting to need breaks from the everything going on with Josh, and Mike and Matt started to get a little awkward due to girl drama.

Josh wants Chris and Ashley to get together for these reasons: A) because he wants to see Chris win B) he finds the relationship kind of cool and cinematic C) while he's impressed by Mike's rizz, he's also annoyed at him for cycling through the girls in their group, particularly because of what happened to Hannah, and wants to prevent Mike from getting with anyone else D) I'm stealing this from someone, but Josh became aware of Sam's mom trying to set Sam up with Chris and is unhappy with that since he subconsciously likes Sam.

Chris's parents are doctors/nurses who work long shifts, and that's partially how he started spending a lot of time with tech and getting interested in it.

Chris's parents are well-off and will get him nice electronics for his birthday and Christmas, but are really against spoiling him so--the rest of the year--they make him buy pretty much all his own stuff with money he earned.

Emily and Jessica became close because of their interest in the fashion industry. They had really big dreams involving Jess being a famous model, and Emily being a well-known fashion editor. They used to have a spa night once a year where they watched *The Devil Wears Prada* (They are both very adamant that the Emily in that film is the best character, and they quote her all the time).

Ashley and Chris started studying together because Ashley is a whiz at English/literature and Chris is a whiz at math, and they joke about how they're now unstoppable because they tutor each other in their weaker areas.

Matt is not much of a reader, but Ashley got him hooked on faerie romances with girlboss characters, and they started meeting (subtly because neither of them want it to be public that they love this type of literature) to rave about the books. Matt listens to the audiobooks while he's working out. Chris started to catch onto the fact Matt/Ashley talk a lot, and he is internally a bit worried about it.

Bob and Melinda Washington adore Sam and Chris, because they were honestly a little concerned about Hannah and Josh developing good friendships. They don't like Mike much and, after the prank, they tried to cut him out of their lives and were not happy Josh wanted to invite him back up to the lodge but eventually relented. They are also a bit wary about Emily and Jess, but not as much as Mike.

Beth always picks the movie when the Washington siblings have little movie nights in their home theater. This is because Hannah and Josh have polar opposite tastes in films.

Emily keeps saying she's going to give Chris a make-over because he has no style, and she views this “as a challenge befitting of her skills and superior taste.” She's kind of insulting about it, and Chris gets very annoyed/defensive while also kind of getting that Emily doesn't actually dislike him and says some of this in fondness.

Sam is a bit of a big-sister figure to Ashley. She likes doting on her, because she views Ashley as sweet and sensitive.

Sam has another group of friends that she rock-climbs with.

Chris really loves sleeping and is always the first person to fall asleep on voice chat or at parties. He's a deep sleeper and sets like five different alarms. However, he also periodically games late at night (with the help of many energy drinks) so he specifically avoided signing up for any college classes before 11am so that he can sleep for most of the morning.

Chris got the group together for a D&D campaign (Btw, he references D&D at the seance). The following happened: Josh ended up moving it over to his house because he built a really cool setup for it, Sam was always the one to defuse fights, Emily complained about how stupid it was but was also really good at it (and opinionated about it), Josh kept trying to seduce monsters, Mike/Jess got obsessed with using "vicious mockery," Chris used NPCs to very subtly flirt with Ashley's character, and it all ended when Mike insisted they could take an enemy well above their levels--Emily's character died.

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Hi I am the anon Chris asker from before, I am here to ask more questions about Chris because I believe you are the expert :)

At what point in development did they decide to make Chris not apart of the prank?

I think I saw a random post saying Chris’s roll in the prank was that he was supposed to get Josh drunk on purpose to make him be passed out for the prank and that he was drinking energy drinks while getting drunk with Josh to keep himself from passing out too but it didn’t work? Him going to these lengths to prank Hannah when he presumably grew up with her (with being Josh’s best friend and being around a lot) seems so cruel and out of character for Chris. I wanna know what is fact and also what you think!!

Thanks again!!

-fellow Chris enthusiast ❤️

Thank you. That’s nice of you to say. It’s fun to hear that people like all my ranting and raving about him. Chris is awesome. Sorry, it took a bit to collect my answer again.

I’ve looked into this question too.

Developer Statements:

It seemed like Chris was removed from the prank only a few months before release (though nobody can say for sure). There’s early demo footage of him in the prank video and dollhouse, then two devs who worked on the game said during a Twitch stream that they didn’t know why Chris was removed. However, the director has since spoken on it and implied it was quite a bit before release.

In a Crimson-Head podcast interview with the executive director Will Byles, one of the interviewers asked about Chris’s involvement in the prank. Byles said a few things:

“If you had everyone being a part of this group, it makes them a really unpleasant group, whereas if you have a few of them going along with it, it becomes slightly more believable, we thought.”

"So we wanted a little bit of nuance, I think, in that. There was the whole scene in the kitchen, and we wanted to have the fact that Josh wasn’t drunk on his own (Laughs). It made more sense to have them to be friends. And we carried that through into the actual thing. There was even kind of the shipping between Chris and Josh—that became a thing that we hadn’t written in, but we did want to have them to have quite a close relationship. If you had everyone being a part of this group, it makes them a really unpleasant group, whereas if you have a few of them going along with it, it becomes slightly more believable, we thought. So that was the thing about Chris not being a part of it. It wasn’t ‘a tiny bit before’ it. It was a while before we did it."

So the answer as to why Chris was removed is actually three answers:

Having this entire group gang up on one person at her own home was a little too nasty. The dev team decided that if a few people weren’t involved and this was done by only part of the group, it doesn’t seem like one unit of unlikable people.

They enjoyed the friendship between Josh and Chris and decided to carry that more into the main game.

It helped the party seem like a party. At least Chris and Josh are there, proving fun was had during this night lol.

My Thoughts on the "Chris got Josh Drunk" Theory

Now that carries into your next question. The “Chris got Josh drunk” theory was popular, I think, around at the time people realized he was once going to be part of the prank. That knowledge then emphasized the fact that Chris has lines apologizing for the prank or seemingly including himself within it. So the theory became that he was still part of it, but basically keeping Josh busy.

I really hate this theory for a few reasons.

There’s so little in the game proper to support it. We have arguments based on development knowledge and a few lines of apologetic Chris. But, if he had betrayed Josh, it would have come up more strongly. From a writing perspective, you wouldn't have this be a thing without commenting on it at all.

It directly contradicts two of Chris’s core traits: loyalty and protectiveness. “Protectiveness” is on his trait card in both games. “Loyal” is in the remake but also was always stated in his Companion App bio. If Chris directly played with Josh’s trust to intentionally get him to drink enough to be helpless and unable to protect Hannah… This is just SO contrary to what we know about Chris. Why even give him these traits if you violate them more than you show them?

Thirdly, this goes beyond Chris and changes the tone and nature of the prank. The prank was terrible, yeah. But the characters are still redeemable because the prank was depicted as an impulsive (perhaps even a little drunken) joke at a party. Now, what if the group went to Chris ahead of time and said, “Josh is going to try to stop us. We need him out. Just hang out with him and slowly get him inebriated”? This changes the tone dramatically. Now it’s not a group of teens making a mean mistake. It’s teens actively scheming to do something they’ve acknowledged would enrage their host, so they decide to have his best friend betray him by using alcohol to take away his agency. And, for some reason, Chris completely agrees to do this?

The Byles interview about why Chris was removed basically shoots down this theory as at all intended by the devs, at least. They wanted to SOFTEN the prank. And they wanted to better show that Chris and Josh have a close bond.

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For The Last Time / В последний раз | Until Dawn Animation

Been working on this for the past 4-5 days and it came out just as I imagined it :,)

Also heavily inspired by @/sherrickmads on Instagram

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Leave it up to me to dig up the grave of a dead fandom. Thank god you can save Josh in the remake. Extra version under the cut

Also a more heavily filtered version cause it kind of reminded me of that horror game 'Who's Lila?'

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So I’ve recently gotten more into editing with my pictures and I feel like they really have gone to the next level in terms of quality now. So I thought it would be cool to take shots of my favourite characters from Until Dawn in order to have an excuse to actually share them with you all.

Last picture is for @willothewispwisteriadawn and for Anyone who really likes the Sam and Chris duo.

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em and matt doodloos

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Mike is projecting bc one time he accidentally put two jalapeños and almost died

That man can’t handle spice at all

The group leaves all the grilling to Mike during the summer when they get together.

Mike’s the type to wear a shirt that says: “Keep your grubby hands off the grill. The master is at work.”

Mike may be a MASSIVE ass but that man sure can cook on a grill.

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Burgers are his specialty

The group leaves all the grilling to Mike during the summer when they get together.

Mike’s the type to wear a shirt that says: “Keep your grubby hands off the grill. The master is at work.”

Mike may be a MASSIVE ass but that man sure can cook on a grill.

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Sleepover at Washingtons' (Josh isn't with us rn)

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Josh is the ONLY person allowed to call Sam “Sammy”

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I do too

I feel like Beth’s crush was her last ditch effort to feel “normal” before realizing that she likes girls yk?

Beth had a crush on Chris in the sixth grade (she told no one and she would rather DIE than let anyone find out)

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100% believe Mike would rent a family to win an election

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Josh, ice hockey player, who tells Beth to have fun at her “not real hockey game”

Josh who spend two hours making signs for said hockey game

Josh who is making fruit snacks for said hockey game

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never used tumblr before. Gonna start posting *most* of my art here and only here.

Josh washington from Until Dawn in the Josh Hutcherson pose from a while back 😆