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The Necromantics, Des & Jeff
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NOTE: I DO NOT CONDONE MURDER! SERIAL KILING IS HORRID AND THE VICTIMS DESERVE TO BE REMEMBERED! - THIS IS MERELY A WEBPAGE DEDICATED TO TWO VERY FASCINATING, VERY SIMILAR, VERY GRUESOME YET STRANGELY SYMPATHETIC SICK PUPPIES... DENNIS NILSEN & JEFFREY DAHMER! - TWO DORKS WHO WERE SO LONELY AND HORNY THAT THEY TURNED TO MURDER! - HENCE, MY NAME FOR THEM... "THE NECROMANTICS". - MY DEVIANTART ACOUNT: https://www.deviantart.com/syddygurl
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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Jeffrey Dahmer, letter to a female pen pal, dated 5-2-94:
My Dearest Mary,
Hello my Beautiful One, how are you? Thanks a lot for those lovely poems that you’ve been sending me; I like them all! I hope that you enjoy reading the magazine’s that I’ve sent; I found them to be interesting. Also, thanks for offering to send me $50.00 each month - that’s very kind of you. But, now that you are looking for work, I don’t want you to cut yourself short. I hope that you find something you like soon. I do have a small amount in my account, so don’t feel that you need to send anything - but thanks anyway! I did enclose an order form for a book that sounded interesting, it’s called “To Hell & Back.” Do you think that you could order it for me? Then, when I finished reading it, I could mail it out to you if you would like to read it - what do you think?
About that article you read, I have one or two art books, but I’m not all that interested in the subject. I really liked that ”lesson” on the puffins. I think that they are pretty neat too!
I enjoy listening to classical music, but I don’t have any tapes of whales. Yes, I think that you and your son would enjoy a visit to the Chicago Aquarium, I’ve always liked fish.
You are right, I am very depressed, so I don’t have many interests these days. I really am not able to open up new world’s for anyone because mine has completely collapsed in on itself - sorry.
Well Mary, that sounds like a great way to wake up to me too! I hope that all your days are bright and filled with good things and such Joy! Take good care of yourself for me to!
All My Love, Jeff
PS. There is a fat little chipmunk that has his hole right in front of my window. He comes out everyday, and eats the clover flowers, and he’s out there right now. It’s fun to watch him. There are a lot of dandelion’s too, but he never eats any of them; I wonder why?
*To Hell & Back is a book about life after death by Dr. Maurice Rawlings.
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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Under The Microscope: Jeffrey Dahmer’s Mental Disorders
I have decided to start analyzing certain criminals or crimes more in depth in a ’’series’’ I have decided to call Under The Microscope. Disclaimer! I want to be clear that I am not a professional in any field related to crime, mental health or anything related else for that matter. This is simply me analyzing different crimes and trying to answer some questions.
Introduction
Jeffrey Dahmer did not suffer from a mental disease, at least in the legal sense, though it is clear that he had issues with mental health for many years. What was he diagnosed with? How were the symptoms expressed through Dahmer? Was he disturbed from a non-legal standpoint? Could he have been saved?These are the questions that will be discussed in this text. 
A timeline of Dahmer’s mental health
The first time Jeffrey Dahmer spoke to somebody about his mental health was in 1987 after he was found guilty of disorderly conduct after exposing himself by a river. Dahmer had to go through two tests, the first one consisting of statements he had to claim as true or false and the second one consisted of completing sentences regarding Dahmer’s personal life.  These were the statements Dahmer wrote were true in the first test:
Lately, I’ve begun to feel lonely and empty
Ideas keep turning over and over in my mind and they won’t go away
I’ve become quite discouraged and sad about life recently
Looking back on my life, I know I have made others suffer as much as I have suffered
I keep having strange thoughts I wish I could get rid of
The second test, were Dahmer completed sentences looks like this (cursive text is Dahmer’s words):
My father always worked hard
My earliest memory of my father is when he went to work
When my father came home I was happy
When my mother came home, I was watching TV
Dahmer also had to go through therapy sessions after his conviction, but he rarely spoke and often became angry with the doctor. His doctor describes Dahmer as paranoid when angry, which she considered being genuine. The doctor also reported that she was certain Dahmer suffered from schizoid personality disorder with some paranoia.  Dahmer also had sessions with a clinician who reported that Dahmer was easily hurt and disappointed and that he seemed to be impatient (Dahmer often tapped his fingers on the table as if he was in a hurry). The clinician believed that Dahmer could become a psychopathic deviant with schizoid tendencies, as well as worsening his alcohol abuse.
Dahmer also spoke with another doctor before his trial for disorderly conduct in 1987 and described being anxious, tense, and depressed. Dahmer also told the doctor that he felt alienated from society, and the doctor concluded that Dahmer needed long-term psychological treatment. Two months after speaking with this doctor, Dahmer was interviewed by another one. This doctor reported that Dahmer seemed suspicious of other’s intentions as well as manipulative and self-centered. He summarized by describing Dahmer as a disturbed person and a possible danger to society. 
Dahmer was prescribed anti-depressants (which kind he took is not known) and continued with his sessions at the doctor’s office.
In 1991, after Dahmer’s arrest, he was interviewed by several psychiatrists and doctors, which led to different diagnoses. Dahmer was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, schizotypal personality disorder, anti-social personality disorder, personality disorder not otherwise specified (featuring borderline, sadist and obsessive-compulsive traits) alcohol dependence, psychotic disorder, and necrophilia.
Dahmer continued taking anti-depressants (Prozac, also known as Sarafem and Fluoxetine, is an SSRI which Dahmer took while in prison) for some time during his incarceration but decided to stop taking the medicine for unknown reasons. 
Dahmer’s mental illness in his daily life
If we start by analyzing the different traits doctors and Dahmer himself described, it is clear Dahmer had struggled with his mental health for a long time. A depressed state of mind is a recurring theme in Dahmer’s life, which can be observed even in his younger years. For example, Dahmer never seemed to plan his future (his father and step-mother almost made all decisions for him, like enrolling in a university and enlisting in the army) and drank to numb his feelings (which he of course also did to cope with his necrophilic thoughts). As Dahmer got older, he seemed to exhibit even more symptoms of depression such as distancing himself from his family (he had almost no contact with his mother and brother until his arrest in 1991), suffered from suicidal thoughts (he described that he had thought about injecting formaldehyde into his veins, but was afraid that it would be a painful death) and low self-esteem.
Dahmer also showed signs of sadistic and paranoid tendencies. The sadistic trait is, of course, easy to apply on Dahmer’s life since many of his murders were extreme in the sense that he sometimes would drill holes into the skull of his victim and inject muriatic acid or hot water into the hole. The paranoia Dahmer supposedly felt is harder to find any concrete examples of, but since it was noted by several doctors and psychiatrists, it is possible it was most noticeable when meeting Dahmer as an outsider with knowledge and education in mental illnesses. Dahmer was also described as manipulative by one doctor he met in 1987 and this is definitly correct. Dahmer managed to get out of many situations by manipulating people around him; one of many examples is when he managed to convince the police that 14-year-old Konerak Sinthasomphone was his 20-year-old lover and that they had a consensual relationship, even though the boy was young-looking and tried to escape from Dahmer several times.
Now, onto the diagnoses, the first being borderline personality disorder. I have previously made a text about Jeffrey Dahmer and the possibility of him having BPD (you can find it by clicking here), but it can be summarized like this; Dahmer showed many signs of suffering from BPD, such as extreme fear of abandonment (his motive for his murders were that he did not want his victims to leave him), dissociation (Dahmer reported sometimes seeing himself as if he was another person looking at himself, especially when committing his crimes) and reckless behavior (such as his alcohol abuse). Regarding schizotypal personality disorder, Dahmer experienced many of the symptoms such as bizarre fantasies and ideas (the best example of this is Dahmer’s plan to create a shrine made of bones and skulls of his victims so that he could feel eviler and feed his obsession), lack of close friends (Dahmer never had any real friends; the only ones he ever had were in high school, and those friendships were mostly superficial) and paranoia (as previously stated, this was noted by several mental health professionals). The third personality disorder Dahmer was diagnosed with was personality disorder not otherwise specified, which indicates that Dahmer did not fully meet the criteria for a specific personality disorder according to the person making the diagnosis (this diagnosis was set by clinical psychologist Samuel Friedman), but it was clear that he suffered from some form of personality disorder. The last personality disorder Dahmer was diagnosed with was anti-social personality disorder. There are many symptoms of this disorder, but Dahmer seems to fit some of them such as a disregard toward others’ feelings and lack of remorse (the fact that Dahmer killed people without thinking about his victims and their families is probably the best example of this. Dahmer stated that he felt some remorse for his crimes, but he admitted to probably not feeling as much remorse as he should have), criminal behavior (Dahmer was in contact with the police even as a teenager; he had to be escorted out of a bar by a police officer because he refused to leave, exposed himself on at least two occasions, molested several men and boys and of course murdered 17 people) and superficial charm (Dahmer was described as charming and pleasant to be around by many people, such as the detectives who interviewed Dahmer). 
Dahmer was, without a doubt, a necrophiliac an an alcoholic. Dahmer had reccuring fantasies and urges of having sex with dead people since his teenage years, and he sexually assaulted almost every victim once they were dead. Dahmer was drinking daily since he was around the age of 16-17, and often turned up drunk to school and spent his nights drinking at home or bars during his adulthood. 
Dahmer was, as previosley mentioned, unwilling to get help for his problems. It was only after his arrest he decided to tell his full story, but while in therapy before his crimes were exposed, he often sat silent and became defensive when asked questions he did not like. Dahmer was not willing to get help, and therefor he could not be saved.
Conclusion
Jeffrey Dahmer had issues with his mental health from a young age, and he was diagnosed with many different disorders. He was definitly a disturbed person from a young age, and he was not open to get help. Could he have been saved, if he had gotten the help he needed? Perhaps, perhaps not. That will continue to be a mystery.
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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– Some of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer’s letters sent to penpal Dahlia March whilst incarcerated. The only two letters on the internet that were sent to Dahlia are those of Dahmer’s handprints. Strange.
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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everyone: what’s your sexuality?
dennis nilsen: depressed.
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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LOL! What's that murder-nerd doing? Some weird interpretive dance. Nilsen was always a pretentious oddball.
The Dennis Nilsen movie on Netflix was just freaking AMAZING, I JUST LOVED IT SO MUCH😭.
This photo is just... ? And i kind loved it
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Dennis Andrew Nilsen (Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire, Escocia; 23 de noviembre de 1945-Yorkshire del Este, Inglaterra; 12 de mayo de 2018) fue un asesino en serie y necrófilo británico. Asesinó a 15 hombres jóvenes entre 1978 y 1983 en Londres (Inglaterra). Convicto del homicidio de seis de ellos y dos de intento de homicidio en Old Bailey, fue sentenciado a cadena perpetua el 4 de noviembre de 1983, con una recomendación de cumplir un mínimo de 25 años. Años más tarde, fue encarcelado en HM Prison, una cárcel de máxima seguridad en Full Sutton en East Riding de Yorkshire (Inglaterra).
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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Started off well, however, in the last 15 minutes I found myself taken aback by the comments made by Russ Coffey. And no, this is not me being frustrated because someone spoke ill of my favourite case.
TW/: sexual abuse.
To simply dismiss or doubt Dennis Nilsen’s claims about his own grandfather’s (Andrew Whyte) alleged sexual abuse and peadophilia and call it ‘victim blaming’ is just wrong. Yes, Nilsen may be a serial killer, who is also an egocentric and arrogant man, but you cannot say that he fabricated this story to ‘create a demon’ that so called ‘fuelled his murderous rampage’. As Coffey claims there is ‘no solid evidence’ pointing toward the childhood abuse, he believes Nilsen is just a cruel, cold hearted and evil man.
Yet, there are significant ties to his grandfather’s 1) abuse and 2) death that show up in Nilsen’s psychological acts of murder and premeditation (and fantasies).
I believe Des.
Anywho, rant over. Swivel on this, Russ. 🖕
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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Bleep in Des Nilsen’s home movies, from The Real ‘Des’: The Dennis Nilsen Story
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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Maybe I’ve been reading too much and listening to too much music but...
I had a really strange dream last night that Dennis Nilsen was on a disco floor dancing to ‘Night Fever’ by the Bee Gees. He had some smoooooth moves…
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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serial killers and animal cruelty don’t always go together… but they often do 
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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“I put talc on my face to erase the living colour. I smear charcoal under my eyes to accentuate a hollow dark look. I put pale blue on my lips. I rub my eyes to make them bloodshot. I have put three holes in my old t-shirt. I make a mixture of cochineal and saffron to synthesise blood. I soak the ‘blood’ into the holes and the liquid stains my shirt and runs down my body. I stare in fascination at the shot body of me in the mirror. I step outside myself in detached imagination. There is another imaginary person in the room who finds my body out in the woods. I have been executed and left there by the SS. I am a French dissident student.I must be in love with my own dead body. I am quite sober - it worries me.”
— Dennis Nilsen, quoted in Killing For Company by Brian Masters
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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I was isolated in a small room near the wing entrance with a large TV screen in front of me. A wired clip was placed around my penis and another clip attached to my left finger to monitor and record my level of sexual arousal and, for about ninety minutes, I was then shown a sequence of colour stills of naked boys and girls. Later in the test, I was shown a live action video of a man and woman having sex before gravitating to acts of male violence against the woman, which, finally, culminated in rape and murder. The amateur actors were just not believable for any real-life scenario and were often pathetic and even laughable. Later on, the psychologist revealed, to my utter astonishment, that I was mostly aroused by pictures of mature, naked females (such a blow to the self-esteem of a life-long queer).
Dennis Nilsen, History of a Drowning Boy
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I found this photo of a Young Dennis "The Kindly Killer" Nilsen while checking out WattPad.
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thenecromanticsdesandjeff · 4 years ago
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No, you're not wrong. Despite his crimes, Jeff was a sweetheart compared to those other losers.
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it really does baffle me how Jeff can commit such terrible crimes but come out with a partially remorseful, honest response in comparison to Ted and Richard who are essentially proud of what they’ve done, in my opinion out of the whole serial killer community, despite the literal crimes of what he did, Jeff was one of the good guys, he didn’t want to hurt anyone or kill anyone, he just had the impulses and urges.. am I wrong?
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“Jeff” was gone.
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