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Consider this: We live in a world where the vast majority of the population is taught to use a toilet instead of diapers at two to four years of age and masters this art within five years, and even over night, and levels of incontinence remain low, and diapers are only for those few medical cases, and for situations of extreme impracticality, and even in those cases are highly stigmatized. But that is not the only way in which we could live. And there are infinite possibilities for worlds where this is not the case. Where teaching such skills happens later or not at all. Where practical application are more widely embraced. Where biology itself makes such mastery difficult and human society has adapted to that. What I want to do is highlight some ways in which this might play out.
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toiletfreetimelines · 2 months ago
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There was new research done on preventing alzheimers patients from getting worse and one interesting study found that being in charge of helping with small children such as grandkids helped a lot, but very specifically, they found that changing diapers was the thing that actually helped the most. So they did another study and found that even when the children in question weren't infants, it helped and moreover, they found that the specific act of engaging in more intellectual play with slightly older children, while it did help slightly on its own, was not as effective as diaper changes, except, that when the two were combined, they held much more than the sum of the benefits provided by each alone, and what's more, they were even more effective when they were the same child. Which did pose a problem, since it was very rare to have the same child be both old enough to engage in more intellectual play and young enough to still be in diapers. The first work around, was to have them take care of two children, one who needed diapers and one who was old enough for intellectual play. The second, much more effective work around was just to find a single child who was both capable of intellectual play and needed diapers. There were a handful of physically but not mentally disabled children who fit that of course, but it was far easier just to find a child who was capable of that level of play and then have them wear diapers, whether they needed them or not.
That led to a boon of having older children go back into diapers temporarily to spend time with aging grandparents and great grandparents. And while some were skeptical or even mildly disgusted by the idea of changing diapers on children who were clearly too old for them, a number of them, once they had heard about the studies, agreed to try it; they had changed their own children's diapers after all, and often their grandchildren's too, when they were littler, so it wasn't much different. Then it started to become more and more of a cultural norm, over the years, even as a preventative measure among seniors who didn't have any early warning signs of  alzheimers or dementia, just to use an abundance of caution. The term coined was 'poopy playtime' and it was even encouraged by doctors. If seniors didn't have any grandchildren or great grandchildren of their own, they would find great nieces and nephews, or their cousins children, or even closely supervised community volunteers. millions of children would be fully used to going back into diapers to visit with aging relatives, until it was more unusual that they roped into it in some capacity between the ages of six and twelve, as larger families would often have the kids take turns or have shared sessions. Most of them rather enjoyed it, as they got to spend time with older relatives, who were often more permissive, not just about potty training, but about things like letting them have snacks and stay up later than usual.
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toiletfreetimelines · 3 months ago
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Narrator: Meet Matthew. He's your typical fifteen year old kid, a sophomore in high who plays offense on his school's junior varsity soccer team.  There's just one small problem. Matthew is one of the 1 in 5 teenagers who are still struggling with accidents. That's why he, and so many like him, turn to new Pamper's Teen Pull Ups for protection."
Matthew: It's hard sometimes, especially during practice. I try to hit the bathroom before, but I don't always have time if I'm running late, and we're drinking so much water, and moving around so much. I had a hard time staying dry during practice, and the coach used to give me grief for it. Sometimes my teammates would make jokes about it, and it hurt when they laughed at me. But thanks to Teen Pull Ups, I don't have to worry about it any more. I stay dry, even if my body is being stupid, and I can focus on actually practicing. My coach has even started putting me in games more, since now he trusts me not to wet myself on the field and embarrass the whole team. I even scored the game winning goal in our last match. And my bladder gave out, but it didn't matter, because I had my Teen Pull Ups. Thank you Teen Pull Ups. Sometimes, you have accidents, and that's okay, but you don't need to let it ruin your life in the meantime.
Matthew's mother: I tried other training pants, but none of them quite fit right, and they tended to leak. Big kids have big accidents, and when Matthew pees himself, he pees a lot. Like using up a whole roll of paper towel lot. Fortunately, thanks to Teen Pull Ups super absorbent core, we don't have to worry about that. And he can focus on his school work and his soccer. I know he's doing his best with using the toilet, but when his best doesn't quite make the cut, Teen Pull Ups are there to pick up the slack.
Matthew: There were a couple of other kids on the team who also struggled with accidents, and they rest of the team used to call us the pee squad and be really mean about it. But since I recommended Teen Pull Ups to them, and now, they've laid off us, since none of us have leaked once during practice for over a month since I switched to Teen Pull Ups, and they're thin enough that they don't show too much under our shorts. Thank you, Teen Pull Ups.
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toiletfreetimelines · 6 months ago
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Imagine life for Nicoletta. She is fourteen years old and plays the flute in her middle school's orchestra. She's pretty good, and she hopes to join the marching band when she starts high school next year. She is potty trained for 363 days every year, doesn't even wet the bed, but of course she is diapered for Christmas. 
A few decades ago, somebody told a young bedwetter that Santa brings the best presents to little children who soak their diapers on Christmas night and stay in bed until their parents wake them up. The exact reasoning had been lost to time, but most likely, it was to stop her from getting up to pee while they prepared her presents. Whatever their reasoning, she took it to heart and started to spread the rumor, and now it's a cherished Christmas tradition in the area. Every year in Christmas Eve, even children who are fully potty trained are diapered for the night, and plied with lots of liquids, then settled in until morning, when their parents wake them up to change their pee soaked diapers and let them go and open presents. It's such a thing that the stores sell Christmas diapers in larger sizes, bordering on adult, in festive reds and greens. When a child had to stop was a matter that was up for debate, but generally it was sometime around sixteen or eighteen, though those who went to college would occasionally participate when on break. Nicoletta has a few more years of being diapered for Christmas for sure.
Because the festive diapers always come in twenty packs, and because kids grow year by year, so saving them for next year really is a bit of a gamble, parents often extend the traditional diapering. Exactly how long and in which direction varied. In Nicoletta's family, all her cousins on her mother's side would gather for Christmas eve at her grandmother's house. They would all have dinner, and they they'd all get diapered. Nicoletta is the second oldest among them, with her cousin Darla being a few months older, and both of them are still diapered. They'd them take a big group photo over everyone in their Christmas diapers, then they'd have dessert, including lots and lots of hot chocolate and eggnog and hot cider.
Eventually, they'd make a big show of leaving out milk and cookies for the little ones who still believed and everyone would head up to bed. At this point, everyone had used their diapers at least once, so everyone got dry diapers, with no judgement for having used them, because it was Christmas, and then they all settled in for the night, most piled in sleeping bags on the floor of their grandmother's guest room. Of course it was had to sleep, and they would stay up talking for a bit, but staying still, because they were good, and even those who didn't believe, believe still felt compelled to follow tradition, but eventually, they would fall asleep. They would often wet their diapers before they actually fell asleep, or not pee until they woke up.
Various families have different different customs as to whether or not kids should poop in their Christmas diapers. Some say that it isn't in the tradition and therefore is uncouth, and unfair to the parents who have to change said diapers. Some are more ambivalent, and try and discourage it, but understand that sometimes kids have to poop, and if their wearing a diaper, then that's how it goes. Nicoletta's family was mostly of the opinion that it was probably desirable, and some of the older kids joked that they were making a present for Santa, even if it was their parents who had to change them. The kids would wake up and often poop while they were waiting for their parents to come and wake them up.
Their parents, as part of the tradition, would come into the room to wake them up and change their diapers and exclaim at how very much they'd soaked and filled their diapers and how pleased Santa must have been, and  then set them loose to go and look under the tree for their presents. Like most families, they would rediaper the kids. How long after the kids stayed in diapers and if they were supposed to use them varied from family to family, but all of the cousins left their grandmother's house around noon wearing clean diapers, having been changed if necessary right before leaving, and Nicoletta's mother let her and her brothers keep wearing and using them all the next day as well. One of her classmates claimed that her mother kept her diapered for the whole of Christmas break until New Year's.
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toiletfreetimelines · 7 months ago
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Imagine Morris. He's 17 years old. He's a highschool student who gets mostly Bs and a few As. He's applying for collages and plays wide receiver on the schools football team in the fall and lacrosse in the spring. He also wets the bed every night, and on weekend mornings, he tends to poop in his diaper first thing in the morning, because he's wearing one anyway for the bedwetting. He has quite a few friends and all of them know that he wets the bed, and he has no qualms about telling anyone he might meet.
That's mostly because as far as any of the people around him know, it's extremely common for teenagers to wet the bed. While day time potty training is generally achieved by four years of age, overnight potty training is more elusive. About ninety five percent of fifteen year olds wet the bed, about eighty percent of sixteen year olds, and about seventy percent of seventeen year olds like Morris. About fifty five percent of eighteen year olds as well, along with forty percent of nineteen year olds, thirty five percent of twenty year olds and thirty percent of the adult population. And that was just the numbers for those who wet the bed nightly. Roughly eighty percent of eighteen year olds, seventy five percent of nineteen year olds, sixty-five percent of twenty year olds and sixty percent of the adult population wet the bed more than twice a week.
Because of this, it's pretty much understood that kids up until the age of sixteen at least should wear diapers at night, and diapers for things like long road trips where a person might fall asleep were common, especially for children and teens, but also for adults who weren't driving. Diapers usually went up to size twelve, and then there were the adult sizes. They were readily available at most all night convenience stores, supermarkets, etc.
Among younger people, pooping in their overnight diapers was considered a bad habit, but many children indulged. Maybe not every morning, but almost all children did so sometimes and roughly a quarter of all adults who wet the bed admitted to doing do more that once a week. Morris was far from the only one of his teammates to do so.
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toiletfreetimelines · 7 months ago
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It isn't just for humans.
So I watched a few videos breaking down the F.A.T.A.L system, and while it seems terrible R.A.W and not something I'd be interested in actually playing, it did get me thinking. Could you mimic being not-fully-potty-trained using an RPG system? Something crunchy enough to be somewhat realistic and interesting but playable enough to be fun? So I set out to make one.
Basically, it can be added on top of any other RPG system for a little diapered fun. It requires the GM to keep track of how many hours pass in-game, and keep track of two trackers per player, plus know their potty-training levels. The tracker levels are how full the players bladder/bowels are and use the scale of how many hours worth of pee/poop have built up. To keep things simple, they are constants, though if you wanted a bit more crunch, you could have bladder levels go up double if they consumed alcohol or add other modifiers, though those should only be to raise the amount the tracker goes up. 1 per hour on each tracker is the bare minimum.
Then, once per in-game hour, either the GM rolls a percentage die for each player, or the players roll in the tower, so only the GM can see the results. If the percentage die is lower than the number indicated by the character's potty training level, and their bladder/bowel levels are high enough, they have an accident.
If you're feeling very fancy, you can roll/have the players roll a second die/set of dice of the type usually used by the overall game system (2d6 for PbTA, d20 for D&D/Pathfinder, d100 for Call of Cthulhu/Dark Heresy, etc.). If they do have an accident, the check is to determine if they notice or not. If they don't, it's to determine if they know how full their bladder and bowels are. PCs who have no potty-training automatically fail such a check. If they do notice and don't have an accident, they're immune from accidents until after they've gone on purpose and built their levels back up, or until they're at maximum.
If the PCs are asleep, they either roll the same checks to see if they have an accident, or, if they're asleep long enough, they simply have the accident when they hit maximum level, and automatically noticing doesn't apply when they're asleep. Since they typically sleep for eight hours overnight, they will always wet the bed. If you want, you could give the PCs a roll to notice if they hit maximum bowel and are about to mess the bed and wake up in time to maybe stop it, though that check should be quite hard.
If the PCs are wearing diapers or pull-ups of some sort, then the GM will also have to keep track of how many accidents they've had (and if you want a lot of crunch, a what level they had said accidents at), as they will have a finite capacity, and leak if the PCs exceed that capacity. If they are not, they simply have to deal with having their clothes ruined, and might face penalties of charisma-type checks, which also apply if the diaper leaks
Levels of over-all potty training can be determined randomly or chosen at character creation. While the two levels are separate, PCs with none as their overall potty training level do not get a sperate bowel control level, and it would be quite prudent to impose the restriction that if they have Middling over-all potty training, they have at least Decent bowel control.
Levels of overall potty training:
None: Absolutely no training whatsoever Dice :50% at Bladder 1, Automatic voiding at bladder 2 or bowel 5
Alleged: More than 4 accidents per day. Dice:30% at Bladder 1 or higher +3% per bladder level past 2  Max bladder=4 (automatic voiding if unnoticed)
Nominal: Fewer than four accidents while awake per day Dice: 10% at bladder 1, 22% at Bladder 2 or higher. Add +2% per bladder past 3 if unrecognized Max bladder=5 (automatic voiding if unnoticed)
Insufficient: Fewer than three accidents while awake per day. Dice: 18% at bladder 2 or higher 8% at Bladder 1. Add +2% for bladder past 3 if unrecognized Max bladder=5 (Automatic notice, void within 5 minutes)
Poor: Fewer than fifteen accidents while awake per week. Dice: 13% at bladder 2 or higher with +2% per bladder 4 or higher Max bladder=6 (Automatic notice, void within 5 minutes)
Middling: Fewer than ten accidents  while awake per week. Dice: 8% at bladder 2 or higher with +1% per bladder 4 or higher Max bladder=7 (Automatic notice, void within ten minutes)
Levels of bowel control:
Terrible: Messes self more than ten times per week while awake. Dice: 10% at bowel 5 +4% per level higher Max=8 (automatic voiding if unnoticed)
Low: Messes self fewer than ten times per week while awake Dice: 8% at bowel 5 +3% per each bowl level higher Max=9 (automatic notice, void within twenty minutes)
Decent: Messes self fewer than five times per week while awake Dice: 4% at bowel 5 +2% per bowel level higher than 6 Max=10 (Automatic notice, void within twenty minutes)
Good: Messes self fewer than three times per week while awake Dice: 2% at bowel 5 +1% per bowel level higher than 7 Max=10 (Automatic notice, void within thirty minutes)
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toiletfreetimelines · 7 months ago
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Imagine Markon. He is twelve years old and likes to play video games. He does alright in school, and his favorite subject is history. He also poops himself in public at least two or three times a week, though he is always wearing a diaper when he does so. He lives near a town called Varton's Reach, and the eccentric old man Kendrin Varton, who is the great-grandson of the town's founder, has offered a deal to any local restaurants. Mr. Varton will personally fund rebates for customers who eat at participating eateries, provided that they have a child in diapers with them, and will multiply that rebate for every diapered child they have with them. The restaurants who participate get an increase in business, and all they have to do is dole out rebate cards to anyone who comes in with a child in diapers. They
The thing is, there was no specification that the child in question was an infant or toddler, and there was no requirement that the child in question was always diapered. There was a stipulation that the diapers must be in actual practical use and not just for show, which meant that if a child came in diapered, they couldn't then use the toilet; they'd either have to hold it or use the diaper, and a lot of times, kids couldn't hold it. It wasn't such a bad deal though; for the cost of a few diapers and getting your child to wear one, a family could eat at the restaurant and then get the cost of the meal refunded, which meant they could effectively get a nearly free meal. On top of that, if the family had more than one child, they could get multiple of their children to wear diapers, and have the cost of the meal refunded twice over, which effectively meant that they were getting paid to go out to eat. Even if the cost of diapers for older children was fairly high, the multiplied rebate made up for it. 
That meant that any family with more than one child within an hour drive of Varton's Reach would come bring their kids out to eat in Varton's Reach fairly regularly. On Saturday and Sunday, the place was packed for breakfast and lunch, because that was when kids weren't in school. A lot of families were out for brunch on Sunday, as it was a good day to go out for brunch and they could claim the rebate money for it. 
Markon's mother took him and his two little brother's out to dinner every night in Varton's reach and for breakfast and lunch on Saturday and Sunday. When they go out, they of course, cannot use the toilet, which Markon is used to, because he's been going out like this every night since before he can remember. He has no qualms about using his diaper if he needs to, and if he has to poop, he will do so without hesitation. His little brother Andel actually prefers to poop in his diaper, and so will use the toilet if he must, but most of the time will hold it until he goes out to eat and then squat down to take a dump as soon as they arrive at the restaurant. There's not much judgment, because anyone who could plausibly be called a kid is wearing a diaper and they all have had to use one at some point. Markon isn't so attached to the idea of pooping in a diaper, and he often poops in the toilet at home with no fuss, but he does tend to need to poop right around when they're having breakfast, so on the weekends, that means when they're out at the restaurant. He'll feel the need, start to build up, and he'll stand and lean his arms on the back of his chair and push. His mother knows exactly what he's doing of course, and she'll pull him of to the bathroom to get changed. Of course most restaurants have bathrooms which are equipped with changing tables that are large enough to accommodate older kids, because they so very frequently have older kids in diapers.
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toiletfreetimelines · 7 months ago
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Imagine the life of Vellisia, a girl of ten living in a town called Salt Flats. She's fairly average, and likes to draw pictures of horses and dogs. She also like to have diapers with flowers on them. She goes through about fifteen of those diapers every day, because she's never used the toilet.
The town of Salt Flats was not much different than most towns in middle America, with one small exception; there was a town-wide grant funded stipend for children who were not yet potty trained. The grant contained what was widely considered to be a typo. The grant said that the stipend only applied to children under the age of eleven. Almost everyone suspected that it was supposed to be children under the age of one, and somewhere in the process, somebody typed it twice, or there was a fringe theory that it was supposed to have been two, but somebody wrote it in roman numerals.
Either way, it doesn't much matter. The grant applies to older children as well, and it's nice to have the extra money, so most families keep their kids in diapers to keep claiming the grant money. Most kids start potty training on their eleventh birthday.
The only problem is that diapers that fit older children are expensive, so as soon as a child loses the stipend money, they become a financial drain, because they still need diapers as they potty trained. Then a second grant was created that would cover the cost of diapers for children up to eighteen but it was only the cost of the diapers, and it require receipts. Which mitigated that.
Because of that, the only trouble with older kids in diapers was the paperwork required to get the reimbursement and the actual logistics of the diapers themselves. Of course by the time they'd gotten to that point, the families had spent over a decade dealing with the logistics of diapers, and often had younger kids that were still in diapers anyway. 
There were absolutely families who put in for reimbursement for diapers for older children who were actually buying the diapers for younger siblings and claiming a larger cut of the stipend money and there were families who lied about their older kids needing diapers and then resold the diapers they bought instead, but a lot of the claims were genuine. Older kids took longer to potty train, as their bodies had longer to get into the pattern of poor control, and with the pressure of diaper costs taken away,  parents were willing to let kids coast a year or two before they got serious. Most kids in town were having occasional accidents at sixteen. Plus which, a lot of families would over exaggerate the number of diapers their older kids needed and save the extra, because they feared that their kids would need the diapers past their eighteenth birthday, when they would be on the hook for the cost.
The main concern in that regard was bedwetting. Over three quarters of the kids in town still wet the bed at age fifteen, and by age eighteen, that number was still over half. Over ninety percent of them had grown out of it by the age of twenty but that was still a few years worth of nighttime diapers. A lot of those came from exaggerating the number needed by slightly younger siblings who were of similar size, and those families who'd had older kids wet the bed were careful, as their younger kids started potty training, to buy as many as possible and save the ones their kids didn't need against that eventuality. Most families in town whose children had fully grown up still had stashes of diapers sized for older teenagers, which they would pass off to other families who had children over the age of eighteen who still wet the bed.
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toiletfreetimelines · 7 months ago
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Imagine life for Niam. He is a boy of fifteen, who is fairly average. He lives with his parents and younger siblings and attends school, where he has a handful of close friends, and is a member of the schools soccer club, which practices every day after school and holds scrimmage matches on Saturdays.
Niam defecates about four times per day, and he always does so in a diaper, wherever he happens to be at the time. He also always urinates in his diaper constantly throughout the day. 
He usually defecates at least once during every school day, and he's not the only one. All of the students at his school are diapered. His school day is divided into five hours long classes, with a break for lunch between the third and fourth classes. At the end of every class period, the teacher will call a stop to the lesson, and have all of the students line up, then change each of their diapers one by one. Most of the students in any given class have only wet their diapers, but there are always a few who have defecated.
The school is the only one on the small colony world of Arimia. The planet was settled sixteen years ago, and everyone who lives there lives under a dome, though terraforming efforts are underway. For the entire history of human life on the planet, short though it has been, not a single child born there has given up on wearing diapers.
When the planet was first founded, there was a baby boom as those who were living there wanted to start families and put down root. The main problem with this was that there was a surge in the number of disposable diapers used, and that meant that said diapers had to be disposed of. Luckily, one of the engineers had decided a clever solution; he had figured out how to feed the used diapers into a power plant, and since the baby boom was set to continue, they would have a reliable source of power for years. 
It worked, and then it worked a little too well; because the supply of power was readily available, the demand surged, and the colony found that they could export power in certain forms, which brought prosperity to the colony. Then, the ruling council realized that it would behooved the colony to keep expanding the power export; but to do that, especially as the baby boom had slightly tapered off, they couldn't risk the supply loss that came with potty training any of the children. The solution to that was just to keep the children in diapers.
The children of the colony had never known any different. They had grown up with diapers, and with everyone their own age around them wearing diapers, and none of them had come to full adulthood yet, so it was easy enough to just claim that using the toilet was something only adults did and leave it at that. The council did agree that those who were over eighteen could, if the wanted, give up diapers and try to learn how to use the toilet. But nobody has hit eighteen yet, and all but the most precious of teenagers had simply went along with being diapered unquestioningly. They also would have no concept as to why someone would want to be out of diapers. They had no baked in understanding of it being a basic mark of competence to use a toilet.
The schools were all built with the understanding that none of the students were going to be potty trained, as the decision had come down before any children had been properly school aged. They'd all been in day care, which had infants as well, so they were already changing diapers. The public toilets, such as they were, included a few toilets, and many changing tables that were rebuilt to accommodate larger and larger children and teens. Homes were built with a single toilet, separate from the bathing room, even as homes were built larger to accommodate larger families. There was very little toilet paper imported, though it was a common supplement to bidets. In short, the colony was built to accommodate a small minority using toilets, since a larger and larger percent of the population were under the age of eighteen. While the initial baby boom has died down, it had not stopped altogether, and the colony had not yet gotten to the point where the children born were becoming adults. A handful of adults had moved to the planet, but most of them also had children, who were also not allowed to be potty trained.
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