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It's not giving what it's supposed to give.

maika monroe dating ariana grande’s ex and joe dating pete davidson’s ex is my roman empire now.

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I am glad too because throughout the seasons she has different love interests, and I loved her with Oscar the most tbh (Alice/Tobert just didn't have enough screentime/history with Mabel)

Honestly, I'm so happy that Mabel and Tobert are going separate ways. I just think that she is a powerful character that needs time for herself, time to be alone and sort out how she wants to unstuck herself

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And I am less excited somehow. 😭😭

Oh jumping right Into action let's gooo

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#caleb on behalf of the entire pll fandom

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jonathan + protecting stopping nancy before she furiously kicks some ass

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Hiram likes eating from little bags of chips because they make him feel bigger

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Kat Graham 🪽.

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jughead jones in every episode  ♡  the river’s edge

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Surprisingly, on board with Polly/Sweet Pea as I remember people shipping them after the music video and the fact they both were in the show called nurses.

People who should have made out on riverdale at least once

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He was in poly rs, but didn't end up married so most likely single for the rest of his living, and being ace/aro in 60's/70's they thought you are mentally ill realistically, they accepted asexuality just recently like the year 2013.

"Riverdale ended on a polycule. Isn't that progressive??" Jughead aroaceness got erased for that to happen. You truly eat anything up, don't you?

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Honestly I feel like they destroyed bughead the minute they introduced chic/Charles as their half-brother..

Where do you think it all went wrong with Riverdale?

honestly, part of me is like, the show's over and nothing but fandom matters. so who cares?

the other part of me loves to complain about Riverdale and will continue to do so until the day I die in the parking lot of Michael's Diner in Montgomeryville, PA at the age of 86. so, long-winded answer under the cut

I'm tempted to say it's the s4 b*rchie kiss. It was so wildly out of character for both Betty and Archie that it's laughable. You know how you can tell when something is just blatantly OOC with no justification? They...don't justify it. They find ways to dance around any interaction that might offer clarification. They mute the reactions of the characters who should be devastated by it. And then they jump ahead 7 years so it's easier to just handwave it away as something that happened a long time ago.

but the thing is, I did keep watching after that. I thought: okay, at least we should get an exes-to-lovers arc out of this, which is one of my favorite tropes. there is no way they would spend 4 seasons developing Bughead as this loving, supportive, communicative, sexy, and almost-unbelievably-compatible couple just to tear them apart and never do anything with that dynamic again. maybe it'll be even sweeter seeing them come back together after so much hurt and longing.

boy was i wrong!!!!!!!!!

so, the episode that actually made me stop watching for good, with the exception of some standalones like The Jughead Paradox and the finale, was the s5 musical. that was when i realized that this team of writers was 100% willing, maybe even eager, to completely drop storylines they themselves had been building over the course of a season - do a 180 with all of the characterization and relationships - and then act as though the buildup they wrote never even happened.

in this case, i'm specifically talking about the Bughead reunion storyline they dropped in s5. i'm not going to pretend like it was a GREAT buildup - and it was mostly on Jughead's side, Betty's character in s5 was basically an emotionless misery bot that had sex sometimes - but it was there. Jughead told Tabitha he had unresolved feelings around Betty. that's followed by an entire episode that lays out Betty & Jug's time jump relationship, and how Jughead still believes she's the one who saves him from himself. they work on a case together, they start opening up to one another. Jughead's so worried about her he can't eat.

and then...you know what happens.

(i'll also note here that there was random bts stuff that strongly indicated the musical ep storyline had a drastic last-minute rewrite: lili tweeted a blue dress, suggesting the song with that line was meant for her character; RAS said cole had to do last-minute recording sessions; supposedly crew members have confirmed this was the case, too. since none of it's 100% confirmed you can take it all with a grain of salt, but i believe it.)

it was so fucking insulting as a viewer to give my time and attention to a show made by people who would not only randomly drop the threads they set up, but torpedo them altogether, and then behave like the fans are the ones somehow at fault for expecting a story that actually follows through on its own emotional and plot beats. we're just shippers, so our opinions are dumb and biased! it's just a tv show, so who cares! get over it!

so, i stopped watching, because i knew they would continue to write without any thought or respect for their characters or their audience, and therefore inevitably write themselves into another corner. and, shocker, i was right. they did it again, whisking everyone away to the 1950s because actually resolving any of the scenarios they set up was ToO hArD. why bother when you could just make every single character Righteously Angry and Incurably Horny all the time, lecture the audience about social issues that have already been mainstream progressive for the last several decades, and call it a "love letter" to your fans?

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Toni wasn't hater tho, she when asked what was she doing with Jughead at the beginning of the season. 😭

#girlfriends that hate together stay together

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Does anyone really care about romance if there's apocalypse going on?

To me it was Steve confessing cause he thought he would die if he was there with any female he would most likely say to her as well. We don't hate for him, it's just facts.

People are making posts again calling Steve a homewrecker for what he said to Nancy in S4.

As if they weren't in the middle of their fourth end of the world event in under two and a half years, this time without a real adult who knew what was going on.

As if he hadn't just received his third serious, should be in hospital right now, injury in under a year and a half.

As if Nancy and Jonathan weren't in an LDR that had serious communication issues.

(As if Steve was sleeping with Nancy after acknowledging that she had a boyfriend, oh wait. That was Jonathan in s2.)

He was a teenager making a confession in a time of high stress and they didn't know if they would make it out alive.

The way people throw around the word homewrecker in this fandom, anyone would think it was about characters in their twenties or thirties that were married with kids that had a long term affair, and not a bunch of traumatized teenagers who made some poor decisions around relationships and their feelings when they were trying to stop the world from ending.

They're teenagers! There is no home to wreck!

yeah people are just stupid

they’re literally teenagers. like you said. they’re not married, there are no kids, there is no home. they’re teens that have been through a lot of fucked up stuff, and aren’t the best at relationships as a result. to try and vilify one of them is just… mean lmao. and shortsighted.

jonathan is already “slow motion” breaking up with nancy. honestly, if steve were to step in, i think jonathan would just be thankful he didn’t have to dump nancy lmao.

steve’s not even actively trying to break them up!!! he’s just confessing his feelings to nancy because he thinks he may die any second.

and finally. these people are totally taking any agency away from nancy! it would be nancy’s decision to cheat, or break up with jonathan for steve, or whatever. steve wouldn’t be forcing her to do anything. if steve really did “homewreck” j/ncy, he could only do it if nancy allowed the relationship to be wrecked.

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Agree to disagree government would go after her ass, so she wouldn't do neither in the grande scheme of things and probably would be at army or teacher.

been thinking a lot lately about how I'm not convinced Nancy would stay in journalism long term because of the utter frustration she would feel at reporting on things she couldn't get actively involved in or the all-around constrictions of the sort of red tape you run into working at a newspaper or a network or anything and THAT has me thinking about what one (of many) careers she might transition to when she gets fed up with it.

hear me out. Nancy Wheeler the private investigator who gets to use all of those investigative reporting skills, who has a bit more wiggle room to bend the rules, who doesn't have to answer to some higher power for the things she says or does, and who can maybe actually help people in a hands on way.

She can find the people who go missing instead of just reporting when their bodies turn up. She can help people stuck in abusive homes escape their abusers. She can help people who were betrayed by business partners or friends or family get money they need to survive back.

She can find people. She can save them. Before it's too late.

Nancy Wheeler, who lies to cops with a smile and asks forgiveness not permission taking a mystery and running with it? Working just enough outside of the law so people don't have to deal with the police if they come to her instead; working to understand what it looks like when the person she's looking for needs protecting from her client instead of being handed over no questions asked?

Not every case has to end like Barb's. Not everyone left standing has to grieve like Nancy. She can change these people's histories before they become tragedies.

Nancy Wheeler will always be a storyteller, she'll never stop putting pen to paper, but maybe journalism was just not the arena for her to do that in. Maybe it's two different things, the stories she tells and the people she helps.

Maybe she gets to do both if she just finds the right avenues.

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Me knowing how tropes work so they're red herring stancy also Steve had almost no plot and did almost in S4 so they had to stretch it out somehow ( I love Steve but he had no business being in S4, even if someone says "who would've sAvE MaX? Literally anyone else, cause the show is over bloated and different character would get their moment to shine...

me if stancy happens even slightly