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Someone on TikTok had the fucking audacity to say “Evanora wished she’d killed Agatha the moment she left her body but Agatha begged Death to spare Nicholas’ life before he ever left hers” and now I am SOBBING

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Agatha needed the Darkhold to hide from Rio

In episode 1, when Rio blasts through the door and attacks Agatha, she asks her "How long has it been, Agatha? Since you acquired the darkhold, you hid behind all that dark magic. But then you lost it. And now ...touch"

The whole time I thought she might have wanted it for the same reason Wanda did - to get her son back. Or maybe simply for power and academic interest. But apparently the Darkhold's powers let her hide from Rio. Or at least that's how it sounds to me here. And afterwards, presumably, since Agatha's powers were gone, Rio couldn't feel her the normal way either and probably searched for her the old fashioned way. Perhaps it was even Billy's magical activity in Westview that led her to Agatha in the end.

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Not to offend anyone, but for all of you who keep saying "Poor Rio" and "How could you, Agatha",

Please rewatch the show

And imagine Rio was a man while you watch

If you still think "Poor Rio" and "How could you, Agatha" afterwards, then I can start considering whether Rio is the sole victim here.

(and before you say it's not the same: Yes it is. Rio is the one at the advantage in every way. Always)

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Now repeat after me:

The road is real, it was a hoax Agatha invented to steal witches powers until Billy made it real

So all the stuff that they went through really happened, it wasn't just an illusion

Alice did break her curse, Lilia did find peace on her powers, Jen did unbound her powers

ALL OF THAT WAS REAL

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agatha and death falling in love so fiercely that agatha is forever a scar in death’s body - her only weakness, her only resemblance of humanity - is the gayest most romantic lesbian shit I’ve ever seen

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Agatha and Rio's deal in ep 8

And their hostile dynamic in the end

After watching the finale the first time I really wasn't sure anymore what I thought about Agathario.

If they actually mutually love each other,

if it's a toxic one-sided thing that Agatha just plays into for her benefit and to survive.

If they maybe were in love once but then being in Death's constant company grew too much for Agatha and she wanted to be left alone. And Rio just won't get the message

Or maybe the mutual relationship just ended when Agatha couldn't forgive Rio for not using her powers to save Nicky. And now they're pining.

After the finale it really looked like the whole thing was quite toxic and sort of one-sided, especially after Agatha wanted Rio to "let her go" and not "pursue her anymore" as part of the deal at the beginning of episode 8.

HOWEVER, I have become completely obsessed with the finale. Just watched it for the 5th time again and

I've also come to the conclusion that Agatha does love Rio. As the person Rio appears at. She just resents Death. When they make the deal in ep8 about Rio never showing her face to Agatha again when she dies.. Agatha looks really put out that Rio actually agreed to it. I think she was trying to manipulate Rio.

Agatha's goal was to protect Billy. That was her goal from the moment Rio showed up on the road. She said herself that she was trying to distract Rio from Billy (and his true identity). And I think she did it again with this deal.

Effectively, if Agatha ends up handing Billy over to Death, then Rio would have to stick to their deal and stay away from Agatha forever. Obviously, after all these centuries, Agatha assumed that Rio would never agree to that, or not be able to go through with it. As a result, she would maybe not take Billy at all to avoid having to fulfill her part of the agreement.

I think that was the "calculated risk" Agatha took that she mentioned to Billy in ep 9 ("Btw I didn't sacrifice myself for you, I took a calculated risk"). Of course she could have referred to returning as a ghost, idk. But I think it's a possibility. But I digress.

My point is, I do believe that Agatha does not actually want Rio to disappear from her life forever. She merely tried to use Rio's love/obsession as leverage to protect Billy.

I might be wrong. I might be delusional. But I think it makes sense.

On the topic of their strange new dynamic in episode 8, when there was so much softness before: I think that also makes sense.

In episode 4, Agatha was getting attached to Billy, all the while remembering the time she spent with her son. She was also thankful that Death spared Billy after the second trial. All in all, she was feeling sad, and maybe melancholic, and overall glad that Death gave her special treatment again (with Billy, in that moment). So of course she was having a moment where she maybe missed their relationship and love. And was also sharing some of her grief with her ex, who might have been a big part of her dead son's life.

The softness makes sense here.

And the playfulness before that also makes sense, since Agatha probably spent centuries killing witches (partly) for Rio. So it's like old times for them, being on the road and massacring people. Yey.

BUT, in episode 8, there are no positive feelings flying around. There is no reason to be sad, or grateful or turned-on etc. Rio tells Agatha directly that she wants to collect the soul of another kid that Agatha cares about. And Agatha can only think about all the terrible experiences she's had because of Death (or at least she blames Rio for them in any case).

So they revert back to their disagreements and hostility. They end up back at the beginning - in episode 1, with Agatha fighting for her life, cause Rio wants to take her more than anything (pun intended I guess). Obviously even more than she wants to claim Billy's soul.

So, again. There is love, but there is also resentment. And for me it made perfect sense that there was no softness in their fight in episode 8. They are like any ex-spouses who hurt each other in the past. In good moments of shared memory, they want their old happiness and love back and wonder if there is a chance. But when the reason for these old hurts becomes apparent again, they go back to hating each other.

For them, that means Rio trying to collect her due (as Death), and Agatha trying not to get killed by her.

(I hope this made at all sense. I might just have followed my own incomprehensible logic.)

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Us not getting Agathario backstory or why Agatha is the way she is (apart from the small snippets given in AAA) is a good thing. It leaves the possibility for an Agatha origin story, if she gets popular enough. How she got so strong, why exactly her mother wanted her dead, how she got so close to Rio and how she got the Darkhold. There wasn’t time in AAA but that doesn’t mean there won’t be time later

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I don't know how some of y'all don't like how AAA ended; I think it was beautiful.

Remember this is just my opinion, so don't be rude if you disagree. I'll literally cry if you're rude to me.

SPOILERS DOWN BELOW

Of course Agatha and Rio weren't going to have a happy ending. Even if it was her job, Rio took Agatha's son and I'm sorry to tell you, but just because two people have an insane amount of sexual tension doesn't mean they have to forgive and forget and give it a second try.

And just because the show has a really good sapphic representation doesn't mean that they have to end up together. They're both complex characters with a complex relationship that ended in "if you do this I'll never forgive you". Them being in a relationship at the end wouldn't have been a win for the lesbians, I think; how would that happen anyway? Agatha's whole reason for staying as a ghost is that she can't face Nick, so going back to the person who took Nick from her wouldn't make sense.

Also, I've seen people say "I can't believe Agatha had sex with a man", which could be a joke, but I'm going to give my opinion just the same. Didn't Nicholas have Scratch as a last name because he was made from scratch? 😭 Or did I misinterpret something there?

I don't know, I really liked it.

The whole flashback scene was beautifully made and Agatha herself being the reason why nobody survived the road was a good twist. She also said to Jen at the beginning that only two survived the road because the lyrics said so and she could've been talking about her and Nicholas.

I still think ep. 7 was the best of the whole show, though.

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Why Agatha killed witches

I've seen quite a lot of people wondering why exactly Agatha killed all these witches - to distract Death from Nicky? Or for power?, etc.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought it was strongly implied that when Nicky gets hungry (even as a baby) he'd only get satisfied and stop crying after Agatha killed witches. As if their life force was feeding him. When she meets that first coven in the woods, just after Nicky is born, she says to them "we haven't eaten in days" and Nicky is crying. And he only stops crying after Agatha killed them.

Later on, when he's older, he tells Agatha at one point that he's hungry and asks if she could cook something for him. Her answer was "I cannot heal your sickness", as if it wouldn't matter if she cooked anything for him, because that is not the sort of nourishment he needs.

So I think that Nicky needed the life force of other witches to survive. Maybe not fed to him directly in that sense, but Death needed to receive life in order to give life to him.

So Agatha didn't just kill to keep Death busy and distract her by leaving a line of bodies behind so Rio wouldn't come for her son. Nicky actually needed it to survive like food. In my opinion at least.

And after he died, Agatha probably kept killing because she had gotten used to the exhilarating feeling of sucking out the witches' life force and magic. I imagine it like a drug, that she's addicted to but that also makes her feel good for a moment when life is unbearable and she wants a distraction from the grief. It might have also given her a twisted sort of purpose in her existence. After Nicky's death she only had her love for Rio left. So she gave Death bodies.

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Agatha All Along Ep 8 & 9 - spoilers!

Just my thoughts about the finale. And completely without structure. But damn, I needed to write this down.

Not what I expected but loved it so much

Strangely didn't make me cry while watching but it's such an incredibly sad and satisfying resolution to the Witches' Road story

They set it all up perfectly with how Billy created it. The road IS real, but it's also true that Billy made it.

The KISS. AND THE WAY SHE TOUCHED RIO'S FACE WHILE FLOATING AWAY

"Why don't you want me" 😭😭😭

The fact that Nicky and Agatha made the ballad...I am not ok!!!

Rio took him while Agatha was asleep OMFG no wonder Agatha hates her

It turned out to make so much sense that Rio is trying to kill Agatha and that Agatha hates her. The dynamic seems so logical now. I only don't get why Rio was trying to physically hurt her in ep 8 before they kissed. This whole struggle seemed kinda cruel. For someone who claims to love her.

Omg the way that Rio let the flowers grow on Agatha's grave, I AM NOT OK

And how Agatha kept killing witches for her son. That's so heartbreaking, I can't even. And then she kept going because it made her feel good for a moment. Like a drug addiction 😭😭😭

And I'm so glad that she is a ghost. Like, I wouldn't have recovered if she'd have permanently disappeared. And that Billy and her are a coven now - it's literally what I wanted most from this series ("spirit as my guide" OMG😭🙌🏼)

And in a way, Agatha and Rio are together now. In the truest way. Maybe the only way that's possible. Like, they are actually endgame. Tho it sort of seems a bit like a toxic relationship ngl. Rio is definitely in a strong position of power in this. And she may not actually take pleasure in hurting Agatha, but she's not too averse to it either. Idk. I'm still happy about it tho. It's such a difficult, unique and compelling dynamic. Like, I've already seen people complaining online that they killed off the lesbian and that there wasn't a happy ending. BUT THERE WAS. They literally ended up together, wdym?!

(She planted flowers in the yard on her way out 😭🤌🏼)

Also, she came back after all and they are looking for Tommy now together! So she's going to return! And I'll get my mentor relationship. So happy about this.

Also glad that Jen survived in the end. I didn't really care about her before, but the way she smiled when she got her power back changed everything for me.

Surprisingly I smiled a lot during the finale. Idk why. Logically, I should have cried. But the happy stuff got to me more intensely than the sad stuff for once.

Honestly I wish it would have made me more emotional. But it was too expected, I guess.

Also, I'm begging to get a backstory for Agatha and Rio. Like, they already knew each other when Nicky was born. And they looked like they had already broken up. So, where is my lesbian backstory?!

The fact that Rio let Agatha keep her son for 10 years at all is such a prove of her devotion. Man I'm on my knees.

And it's so devastating. Nicky basically died because he didn't wanna kill more witches. But then Agatha just kept killing them anyway. No wonder she's afraid to face him in the afterlife.

On another note....she's so pretty as a ghost 😍🔥 like. What?! The new dress, the hair, the makeup. Absolutely love it. They could have kept a bit of the black, but I still love it very much.

And I'm so attached to Billy now. I just want both of them to be happy. It's a shame that Jen left the coven. But I guess it was always supposed to be "coven two". From the very beginning. And omg can we talk about the fact that Agatha and Nicky made up the ballad together😭😭😭 that just changes EVERYTHING. She DID walk the road before. In the truest way. It's HER road. Billy may have made the trials real, but it was always a ballad about Agatha's road. OMG

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Am I the only one who thought that the last episode felt a bit like fanfiction?

Without going into explicit spoiler territory, but characters suddenly gaining huge insights for no reason? That clandestine meeting at the end with the meta references? Corlys and Alyn's conversation that seemed borderline ooc? The whole Tyland plotline?

I honestly liked most of these scenes, I won't lie. But somehow, to me, this episode just felt different to the rest of the show, I can't explain. And I don't know if I'm happy about it.

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David Tennant: trans rights are real

Kemi Badenoch: *openly attacks trans rights*

David Tennant: yeah you suck

Kemi Badenoch: is it because I'm black???

Dawn Butler: as a black woman... No.

The UK prime minister: DAVID TENNANT IS THE PROBLEM HE TOLD A WOMAN TO SHUT UP

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god david is under FIREEEEE and for what????

right wing folk love making it seem like leftists are the aggressors when they say people shouldn’t have equal rights. like ??????

and david literally said he didn’t wish ill for that woman [don’t remember her name]. he said that. he just told her to shut up about her transphobia. and what he meant about her not existing is the transphobic part of her.

god. right wing idiots love taking things out of context good lord

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I have thoughts and I need to vent.

What I hate about this whole debate is that it is hurting DT the most.

Calling him a bigot and misogynistic is completely insane - anyone that knows anything about him understands that. If he's "the problem" then what does that say about the rest of the world.

Making this thing about Badenoch's (and DT's) race and gender is another insanity. He did NOT tell Black women to shut up, twisting it like this is only prove that this is being blown out of proportions and weaponised. Why would the prime minister feel the need to add anything to this anyway?

DT told Kemi Badenoch to shut up, not women, not black women, only her, and others who disrespect trans people the way she does. That he is white and a man has nothing to do with anything (When exactly has that become a reason to disqualify an opinion anyway?) and the fact that Badenoch makes it all about her own race and gender honestly confounds me - imo, as a woman, it's degrading to only be seen by your gender and not simply as an individual with (political) opinions.

However, as much as I cannot stand Badenoch, I do think that phrasing it the way DT did was stupid. While I completely agree with the sentiment, it was easy to misinterpret and saying that someone shouldn't exist is not the best or kindest thing he could have done to state his opinion on her policies. I appreciate what he was trying to say, that he was saying it all in defence of LGBTQ people and the trans community in particular, but sadly the way he did it is now backfiring on him.

In spite of that, the way I see it, he is not the villain here. If Badenoch has the right to speak her mind, so does DT. And this whole drama and involvement from politicians is ridiculous. This is about a celebrity stating his opinion in public, not a political smear campaign. They need to calm down. There are more relevant problems to be outraged about.

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when David Tennant accidentally triggers the ire of the entire Tory government because of a throwaway line in an awards speech

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#If you're looking for me, don't. David Tennant just killed me.