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THE PUNISHER | 2.11 — The Abyss

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Aw these two. Someone enlighten me if anything happened/is hinted between them (because I don’t like this show, am not interested in watching daredevil, but adore these two so much 😍)

I even have edits with them!

Kastle Journey

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Oh my God, I went on The Handmaid’s Tale Instagram

To read the comments about the finale And it’s just a pile of crap from the viewers. I haven’t seen a single happy viewer so far 😂

I spent 20 minutes reading and liking, not a single one was positive 😱 most of them are about Nick

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This

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Oh wow the amount of unhappy viewers and the likes of their comments is really insane. I’ve never seen anything like this before

It’s not just a question of how many comments of unhappy viewers, it’s also the number of unhappy viewers comments that are liked by even more unhappy viewers, compared to happy ones.

So overall yes, most of the audience is unhappy and not just because of Nick, even if obviously it’s a big part of it.

So what’s the mood at Handmaid’s HQ do you think? Is Bruce happy that his audience will still be angry in 25 years (because that was apparently his wish)? Did YC, ET and EM screw up ? Are they all oblivious and just think they will win all the Emmys, which clearly they absolutely don’t deserve? The best episode in S6 in my opinion was 6x03 and it wasn’t written by YC or ET and wasn’t directly by EM either so obviously they didn’t submit it.

Generally interested about what’s going on for them at this minute….

I’m trying to like every comment of unhappy viewers but it’s even hard to keep up!

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I’ve also always wanted to say that moment from s1 was incredibly powerful and unbelievably sexy.

The way he, fully aware (after googling it which was adorable☺️), pulled her onto his lap and made sure she could feel him through his jeans…

The way he guided her onto his lap, positioning her just right, so she could feel the pressure and friction exactly where she needed it was intimate, intentional, and incredibly hot.

That kind of portrayal of female pleasure is so rare in film.

It’s actually important to show things like this. To show how women are wired. How we work. What we need.

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And another thing I love about Ginny & Georgia is how they showed petite girls like Abby and Ginny.

You don’t often see that in movies. It’s usually all about the “normal” proportions, just a slight height difference between couples.

But girls like that do exist and I’m really glad they cast actresses who aren’t necessarily tall/average height. Petite girls like me were rarely shown in movies, especially not as love interests.

So watching Ginny & Georgia, where they didn’t try to “fix” that by casting only tall actresses, felt unexpectedly comforting. It’s so nice to see a height difference that actually looks like the one I have with my husband

This moment is really cute 🥰

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When depression becomes the third person in a relationship and it’s still love (about season 3 of Ginny & Georgia)

I just finished season 3 of Ginny & Georgia and honestly, I was pleasantly surprised. It’s one of those rare shows that gets deeper and stronger with every season.

On the surface, it may look like a light teenage dramedy, almost shallow but underneath, it tackles some really serious themes:

• depression

• alcoholism

• growing up with a deeply traumatized parent

• self harm

• teenage pregnancy

• and real love, without the fairy tale packaging

What really hit me this season was the relationship between Ginny and Marcus (of course, I’m always inspired by LOVE )

I’ve always liked them, not in a super fangirl way, not enough to rewatch scenes or make an edit — but this season, their story hit different.

What I love most is that there’s no love triangle here.

The writers went deeper. They made the obstacle not another person, but something internal. Depression. And that turned out to be way more powerful, raw, and honest.

(Yes, they introduced Wolfe, the guy Ginny hooked up with but it was clear from the start it wasn’t serious. And honestly, it felt very real: when you truly love someone, you can’t just love someone else the same way. At most, it’s a distraction and you know it.)

Marcus didn’t leave because he stopped loving her. He left because he couldn’t cope with himself. Because he was afraid he’d hurt her. Because he knew he was spiraling and didn’t want to drag her down with him.

He still loves her. But he stays away. And that’s such a painfully true depiction.

For years, media has shown us that men in love stories are supposed to be strong, stable, saving someone all the time. No room for breakdowns, no permission for being lost.

But here Marcus is broken. He’s hurting, not okay. And that doesn’t make him less lovable, it makes him human.

And Ginny… she grew up.

Where she used to lash out or shut down, this season, she chooses acceptance. She says: “I love you. With all your uglies. I don’t need you to be perfect.”

And it’s not codependency. It’s maturity.

Even when he’s in a humiliating, terrifying moment like wetting the bed. Even when he can’t be with her. Even when he pulls away, she’s still there.

Some moments I really loved

• When he tells his sister to stop talking about Ginny behind her back with others

• When he shows up to fix the broken window (wow that was powerful really)

• When he comes to hospital to be there for her and never judges her (it’s like wow, she got pregnant with another guy, he must have been really hurt but he was so soft and supportive with her ♥️)

The whole drama of the season was that he tried to keep his distance and she respected that. But in the end, they both realized: they can’t stay away from each other. No matter the obstacles.

She said it to him straight: “I love you. I still love you. Even if you don’t love me, I love you.” And he said it back. “I love you too. I lied.”

And now I’m really curious to see what’s next for them.

How he’ll go through rehab. How Ginny will deal with the guilt that’s about to hit her, after becoming the monster this season and pushing her little brother to betray his father and throw him under the bus (god, that’s sooo fucked up)

There’s so much emotional weight and complexity ahead. But that’s what makes this story so good.

Also… the poem scene!!!

He’s sitting in the car. Reading her words. Crying.

Because someone still believes in him. Someone reminds him who he used to be and tells him he can come back. That’s what real love looks like.

Not the kind that magically fixes you but the kind that gives you strength to want to fix yourself. That whispers: you’re not alone. That reminds you that there’s someone out there who sees you, even when you can’t.

I really loved this season.

“I’m here. Even if you can’t be here with me. I believe in you. Even if you can’t believe in yourself. I’m not trying to save you but I haven’t left. And I won’t.” Beautiful

Did you watch the season too? I’d love to hear your thoughts.

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I read the comments of so many viewers (definitely not fans, because they are all surprised that Hannah was not saved), but there are so many of these people, so many. The majority. And they all write that Nick deserved to die. About power. About cowardice. About "he could have left SO MANY times" and so on. THEY ARE THE MAJORITY. Not us, who are just going crazy from all this nonsense... And on the one hand, I am trying to convince myself that this ending is a big deception, that in TT they will tell us that Nick faked his death (and June did not let him get on the plane). BUT what to do with the fact that THE MAJORITY already considers him a real Nazi and a traitor and will be unhappy?? It seems to me that there is no way to somehow resurrect Nick. What do you think?

Honestly, I don’t have many hopes for Nick’s return. These writers already shot themselves in the foot and knowing them, they might double down with the same blind stubbornness, like “See? We were right all along!”

But the thing is, we don’t really know who’s making the decisions behind the scenes. And we don’t know how desperate they’ll get when they realize how fucked up they’ve written themselves into. And that opens up a chance.

And honestly, everywhere I go, I see the opposite. People ARE upset. So many fans are heartbroken. So many are furious. People are saying Nick’s death was unfair, cruel, undeserved that it ruined the story. Not just a few, but tons of comments like that. Everywhere

And anyone with even the slightest understanding of screenwriting, narrative arcs, emotional payoff, they all agree: it made zero sense. So there’s always hope that someone up there will realize the scale of the fuck up and try to fix it.

Because once you break something this badly… eventually someone has to clean it up

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I've really appreciated your posts about June giving in to others' opinions about Nick and who she should trust. Idk if you've read the book, but I'd love your thoughts on a couple of Offred's ruminations. She does tend to go back and forth a bit about whether or not she can trust Nick, but from historical notes and TT, we the audience know she was right to trust him.

"If I were caught there would be no quarter, but I’m beyond caring. And how have I come to trust him like this, which is foolhardy in itself? How can I assume I know him, or the least thing about him and what he really does?

I dismiss these uneasy whispers. I talk too much. I tell him things I shouldn’t…I tell him my real name, and feel that therefore I am known." (p. 270)

"The fact is that I no longer want to leave, escape, cross the border to freedom. I want to be here, with Nick, where I can get at him.

Telling this, I’m ashamed of myself. But there’s more to it than that. Even now, I can recognize this admission as a kind of boasting. There’s pride in it, because it demonstrates how extreme and therefore justified it was for me. How well worth it. It’s like stories of illness and near-death, from which you have recovered; like stories of war. They demonstrate seriousness. 

Such seriousness, about a man, then, had not seemed possible to me before." (p. 271)

Wow, that’s so powerful. I haven’t read the book, but this is such a strong and moving confession. And honestly, I always thought this was exactly where the story was going, that this was the whole point. in the show they rarely gave us straightforward answers, but I still expected this to be canon. And there were so many signs along the way that supported it. That’s exactly how I interpreted their story too.

But in the end, June suddenly decided to be a revolutionary and chose “the cause” over the man she loved and the most frustrating thing is, we never even understood where that shift came from. Because for so long, she kept saying about love, that this is the most important thing worth living, just like in the book. And then it’s like they rewrote everything just to match some political agenda or whatever else reason. It’s such a shame. they had something golden, and they threw it in the trash.

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It's not a question, just a fact in case you don't know... A page (Instagram) is doing a campaign about Nick, and you had to put something and use the hashtag #weseeyouNick... the fact is that Max saw the story of a girl who used this hashtag with the image of the book... How lucky! ☺️.. How lucky he is! And he saw exactly what we all say: that Nick is alive in the book.

Omg yes, Honestly, it made me tear up a little. The fact that Max saw it and saw this specific message, it means everything. It’s like the universe wanted him to know we’re still here, still fighting for his character, still keeping him alive where the show failed.

I think he really took it to heart. He probably worried that he had misunderstood the character, or that his performance misled us — made us get too attached. As a director, he understands how storytelling works, he knows the rules and how important it is to respect the audience. And I’m sure it wasn’t easy for him, knowing we would suffer because he made the character too empathetic, someone we should empathize with.

And now he sees that we love him, that we support his work and contribution, and that we’re grateful to him.

I think he’s had time to reflect too and he must’ve realized by now that it’s the writers who completely lost the plot, not him. He actually got it right, just like we did.

He is lucky. But we’re lucky too to have him. ❤️ #weseeyouNick

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I feel like all the fans have been robbed. In the most literal sense: they broke into the house and took out everything valuable. And then they blew it up. I still don't understand how the entire huge team that makes the show made such a decision. And Nick's death is just the cherry on a poisoned cake. The branches of almost all the characters have rotated 180 degrees. And in this chaos, I can't stop being eternally grateful to what seems to be the only person who DOES his BEST (so as not to offend colleagues or violate professional ethics) to tell us that the season turned out to be shitty. MAX treats his fans with respect, which is so scarce nowadays... I admit that there are some points in the contract that can still make him say something nice about the season, but he has already done the most important thing. What could be louder than to send a message to the fans: remember, THIS IS A FICTION... My thanks to Max.

Oh he said that?

Yes. You nailed it. They didn’t just rob us, they desecrated everything they built for six seasons. And you’re right, Max is the only one who seems to still care. Who sees how absurd and cruel this outcome was. Even if he can’t say it directly, the way he distanced himself, that must be his act of protest. Also “we’ll never FUCKING know”

I’ll never stop being grateful either. In a show that turned its back on heart, Max still played his with soul ♥️ I hope he feels our support

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THEY SHOULD KNOW

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😂😂😂 this is amazing

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Those girls' lives didn't seem so important when Mayday was going to use them as pawns and sacrifice them but suddenly it matters? All this did was make June look like the villain.

💯

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I think it was dumb for almost every episode to have June looking angry staring at the camera at the end of a lot of the episodes

Yeah sometimes it was tiring but it was her story so ..

Her face wouldn’t be so annoying if she didn’t turn out to be a selfish, cowardly, hypocritical bitch in the end