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where have you gone?

hi!!! i’m mostly on reddit now!! still alive and well, and moving back to my husband’s home country soon! i’m more into sister wives these days and the community is way more active over there.

i hope everyone is doing well!

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get her ass ellen

ok this is just too specific to be a coincidence, Jill Rodrigues posted this oversharing bs (of course):

And Ellen, Heidi's mom, posted this to her stories after Jill's post, apparently:

Jill and Ellen beef confirmed imo lol and I don't blame her. Jill says this every time one of her kids gets married and it's fucking invasive and weird as shit tbh

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we did it guys

Some things of note from the exclusive

They did date briefly in 2021 around the time Hannah and Jeremiah were courting but, they broke things off

They reconnected earlier this year and got engaged June 15th

They had a FIRST DANCE, a Duggar first

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article is out! they dated in 2021 and broke up! congratulations to everyone

The Jana-Stephen confirmation feels like a fever dream

All of the pictures are screenshots of screenshots that are kind of fuzzy. So it feels like someone is going to pop out and say "aha! AI generated images, you fools!" and we're all going to feel silly.

The marriage license is really the last thing grounding it in reality haha

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engagement pics! these sleuths are wild

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got this from reddit, i can’t believe this is actually happening and she’s actually getting married to stephen

@teamjanaduggar @nerdfundiefollower thank you!! That's so weird, I was literally just on that site doing every search I could think of lol

Yep ok can confirm, they are in the system with no recoded marriage date but they're in there! Jana's officially not single y'all

Edit: per the site, they got their license yesterday, August 14th, 2024 so that probably means the wedding is close.

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they consulted with families like the dargers to get as much info as possible. it’s so wild how similar big love is to the browns, except bill dies before he has a mental break like kody

Re-watching Big Love for the first time since like, 2008 and it is wild how the Brown family basically recreated this family's house set up years later right down to the desert back yards lol

Also I'm living for how the show treats it all like a warning from the very first episode, they introduce Short Creek-esque communities, child marriage, and have information/statistics about mormon polygamy right before the credits

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christine is insane and i love her

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fr like one of the baird girls being mad that bridgerton is sexy but she hasn’t even watched it like girl why are you talking about it then? if you want jane austen then go watch jane austen, this isn’t content for you

the prudishness of conservative Christianity is so exhausting. the insinuation that you can understand humanity on a fundamental level without acknowledging the parts of it that are messy or ugly to you is like, maddeningly stupid.

not to mention literally nothing is MAKING you look at things you don't want to look at, or consider things that make you think too hard, or be around people who are comfortable in their "imperfection". with how good evangelicals are at ignoring the real issues that are negatively affecting the world, you'd think they'd just do the same for the TV shows and movies and music they don't want to consume, but then that would mean they'd miss an opportunity to shame any believers that do get something out of those mediums and we wouldn't want that.

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oh god those poor boys

I will say, this one left me a little speechless….Baby Clark due next month (June 2024)

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i’m honestly shocked she didn’t name her anne

Kelly Havens Ohio had her baby! I anticipate a LOT of Anne of Green Gables cosplay in the future

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thank you for the recap!!! these two are bizarre

here's a ✨quick recap of the Jessa and Ben interview from the "Now That We're a Family" podcast✨for @undercoverduggarblog and anyone else who's curious if they spilled any tea.

I will say the couple who was interviewing them seemed to be the exact same flavor of fundamentalist as the Seewalds, so it was mostly the same cheesy fundie platitudes you hear in any "interview" the Duggars or similar fundies do. so this might be kind of short but there were a few interesting parts I'll highlight:

Jessa and Ben said that they were really focused on teaching catechism memorization to their kids, which I guess isn't super shocking information, I've just never heard anyone besides Catholics talk about catechisms lol. The Catholic Catechism for those who don't know is a separate thing from the Bible which kind of summarizes the principles of the religion, kind of like a cliff notes situation for all of Catholic theology. Other denominations usually focus more on individual stories from the Bible to summarize the principles of their faith, but according to Ben there is a Baptist Catechism too and the Seewald kids will be memorizing it. -

Ben says he was working for Jim Bob at the time he and Jessa got married doing lawn care, remodeling, and construction, idk if I knew that previously. He said he started tutoring Jessa's siblings after that, and now he's been a pastor for 4 years after doing an internship at his previous church. -

Jessa says some of the first conversations she had with Ben pre-relationship were about theology, and that she had been reading more about the Reformed tradition and practices at that time after talking to Ben. Ben says he got Jessa's phone number originally by asking Jim Bob if it was ok to talk to her about theology outside of church stuff. -

Both said even before marriage, they had a lot of disagreements theologically (obviously, bc Jessa was raised by Jim Bob and Michelle who basically made up their own version of Baptist). Ben says some of their biggest disagreements were on the topics of predestination (as we know, since he also got into it with JB over that), how God decides who should be saved, "The Atonement" which I assume just means Jesus dying for our sins (not sure what there is to argue about there), etc. He goes on to say he didn't see it as a deal breaker as far as courting Jessa because he was very into her, and also "a lot of Christians disagree on these topics", but he did want to try to eventually "figure it out". -

They say that they put the theological discussions on pause after Ben proposed. Jessa laughingly says "don't worry, we picked back up (after we were married)" and I guess for me personally I just don't understand how you can talk about these things SO much and never resolve them. Like how are you talking about predestination for MONTHS? and if you guys disagree about a subject to the point that your conversations end in anger and crying (i'll get to that soon) I don't understand not just agreeing to disagree. Honestly to me, it really sounds like Ben had a campaign from the beginning to change Jessa's mind about these things, which is good in some ways I guess bc he's slightly more progressive than she was raised, but still. It definitely feels like that was always the goal, to get Jessa to believe what Ben does, and I mean what other choice does she have in this world they live in but to give in? -

Ben says the theological differences really started bothering him after marriage (shocker). So they continued their arguments, Ben showed Jessa endless books and shit "proving" his points, and Jessa says she started to get pretty heated about their disagreements (at one point she says Ben was like "maybe we should just pray about this" to which she answered "you pray!!"). They both say they were never at the point of yelling, but Jessa would sometimes start crying out of frustration, as would Ben after seeing her cry, and they'd just end in the same place they started. Ben says he thought that if he just "presented a good argument" it would change Jessa's mind about these things they disagreed on and that he hadn't anticipated that they would struggle over this so much (have you met any Duggars, Ben??). -

Ben says that he realized these conversations weren't productive and that he wasn't "leading" Jessa well (🙄) so he started trying to diffuse hard conversations by being like "hey, let's drop this and go on a date", or doing something that would distract both of them before things got heated. -

Jessa says nowadays she agrees with Ben on more things and considers herself a four-point Calvinist. She says Ben used to have "hyper-Calvinist" tendencies and that he's chilled out a bit in that area (I don't know what she means by this lol). -

The couple who are interviewing them are also from big Christian families, and they ask Ben and Jessa if they ever get exhausted from trying to maintain so many relationships with both of their large groups of siblings, in addition to Ben's church members. Ben says yes, and that with Jessa's siblings (he specifically mentions hers and not his lol) there are just some that they see and have over a lot, and some they just "don't connect with as much" and don't see often. Jessa cuts him off here and says that her family does have weekly/monthly things they do where they see everyone. She also says there are certain family units that she and Ben try to connect with more than just at the big family gatherings (1. why'd she say it like that and 2. i wonder who 👀). Overall, Jessa says she always feels like she's not doing enough to maintain her relationships with all of her siblings and that it's a struggle. -

Ben and Jessa get asked about the time they take for just the two of them. Ben says they used to do a date night at least once a week, but that since having more kids there have been "seasons" where that hasn't happened (I'm so tired of hearing that word at this point in the interview). Nowadays they both say that they do maybe one or two date nights a month where they go out, and also a lot of at-home dates where they watch a movie or read together. The reading together sounds sweet don't get me wrong, but for me personally, I feel like I would be driven to insanity by taking turns reading aloud and not just getting to go at my own pace (I've got attention problems tho). -

The types of books they read together are also usually about theology (they just can't get enough). They say right now they're reading a book on prayer, and in the past they've read about things like Baptist Covenant Theology, which Jessa says "went over her head". The way Ben talks about it, I feel like the reading together thing is another attempt to sell Jessa on his beliefs (Ben seems super geeked about Calvinism). The interviewer husband says their reading together is good because it prevents them from developing separate world views from each other without the other one knowing (sounds threatening?). -

As far as the movies they watch for date night, Ben says "westerns, sci fi, something black and white". They say as far as morality and movies go, they're pretty similar on the things they "don't want to see" and they use those rating websites for parents to decide if a movie is "clean" enough for them to watch. Ben says he really loves fantasy, sci fi, and imaginative stuff whereas Jessa says jokingly that she prefers movies "with humans" or things like Dick van Dyke. Ben says he got Jessa to watch Star Wars once, which she describes as "everything I don't love", but she got into it a little bit by the end. They both like movies like Pride and Prejudice. -

The wife interviewer tells a weird story about how she and her sister got mad at their husbands for showing them Lord of the Rings because it's "creepy and weird"?? which I just included because of how egregious a statement that is lol. Ben defends Lord of the Rings and the interviewer husband says that he and Ben can appreciate fantasy bc they have the ability to think "deeper" than their wives (he's joking but it still made me mad). Jessa said she originally was worried that watching fantasy was dabbling in the occult and the other wife agrees. which isn't surprising but makes me sad.

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good to know that janelle texts like an adorable mom and she’s a dark mode girlie. also, can i get some ice cream too?

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Olivia Plath for Teen Vogue

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The humane society where Garrison adopted his cats received so many donations in his name after his passing (25k and the number is still growing) that they put up this plaque and had a dedication ceremony 🥲 so, I'm crying again.

Also, Janelle confirmed that the cats are living with his siblings I know some ppl were wondering.

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she got a bbl

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as some of you may know, last week garrison brown lost his battle with depression. he loved his family, friends, and cats fiercely. he had a passion for the stars and for serving his country. by the age of 25, he had purchased his own home and used it to offer housing to his younger siblings and for it to be a place for the whole family to gather.

he worked in construction and used those skills to build flower beds for both janelle and truely to enjoy. he was also a gifted photographer and created some truly incredible photos of the sky.

in his final days, he adopted his third cat from the local humane society in flagstaff. janelle has said that all of the cats have gone to garrison’s siblings. in the past week, r/tlcsisterwives have raised nearly $10,000 for various animal rescues in flagstaff and in their local communities.

garrison was a bright light in everyone’s lives, and even those of us that only knew him through the screen could see how big his heart was. depression is a terrible disease, and if you’re struggling, please know that you’re not alone. you will be missed. you are loved.

garrison, you are loved.