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arcane s2 stans who shit on any act of zaunite retaliation against piltover but defend the use of the gray are the same type of people to watch Andor and say Luthen was just as bad as the empire and he should have fought an active fascist regime with the power of peaceful protest

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did the fanbase have collective amnesia on silco or something.

like, no shit he's not a good person.

but there's nuance to his character. he isn't sitting in some evil lair, twirling his mustache.

he does cares about zaun. and improvement did actually come to zaun.

he loves and cherishes jinx, even if their relationship was toxic. that's his daughter.

he doesn't hate vander.

i thought we all collectively agreed that silco is one of the most well-written, in-depth, human antagonists in modern memory.

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And all the while this question lingers before you: “Have you had enough?"

Reference

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Literally everytime someone brings up how "evil" Silco is for making the undercity "worse" with shimmer and child labor

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We were broken and bleeding, but never gave up

And I hate that I made you the enemy

And I hate that your heart was the casualty

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silco and canary. art request for remy_frenchrat on twitter! i think younger silco would take good care of the canaries. thinking about how alike they are, trapped in the mines while wishing to break free

but at least he wasn't alone

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Just cause there are some “nice enforcers” ( which honestly I can’t think of one) and enforcers are just doing ”what they think is right” doesn’t erase the fact that they are one of the faces of oppression to Zaun , they were a tool that Piltover used to oppress the undercity not help. Nothing changes that. You can’t just erase That the enforcers were abusers of their power , we see it in S1 act 1 , they ask a guy he spits at their feet okay rude but it doesn’t warrant throwing him through a window!.

“The system has changed” “ they’re changing it from the inside “ I would believe that if I saw it but nope the system is still the same , nothing changed and we’re not shown actual changes that will happen in the future.

If you say the single council seat I’m gonna riot

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This is where Season 2 shit the bed in the Hextech storyline. Kiss nuance and the corrupting influence of power goodbye. Magic itself is going to make you eeeeevil and punish you for using it.

Jayce and Viktor, you were oh so presumptuous for wanting to improve lives and give magic to people who weren't born with it. I bet you feel REAL stupid now!

Fuck Season 2 for proving Heimerdinger right. This ancient, self-righteous, inattentive little fluffball was the real villain in Season 1 and you can fight me on that.

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as much as i enjoy seeing the class politics discussions around silco and his actions as a chembaron and a revolutionary, i do think that a lot of people condemning his actions (which we should condemn) miss the part where like.

it did work

like that was a pretty significant part of the show. it didnt pan out because he loved his daughter but silco's methods very much did get zaun as an independent nation, the real question is if it was worth it (which we'll never know bc jinx shot him)

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"How much are you willing to pay for clean air?" My professor says rhetorically, discussing economic development and its relationship with the environment and human life, and as my brain is still stuck on arcane against my will i can't help but think about the kirammans apparently building a vent system for zaun but not doing shit about the industrialization that made the Gray in the first place, and then caitlyn using the vents to release that deadly gas in her hunt for what she knows is a deeply disturbed teenager + the gangs that ran the undercity, with no mention of the deal jayce made with silco a season before, nothing about how the gas weapon manhunt affected zaun. Cait gets to go back to her big fancy house as a like tragic hero or whatever with her mom buried in a grave she can still visit and her dad still alive and a girlfriend who'll go down on her no problem despite losing her entire family and turning her back on the home she used to do anything and everything to protect. No sign of remorse not a hint of reparations or doing anything about the stranglehold piltover has on zaun. Gee golly it sure is a mystery why so many people would be put off by this story, riot games company based in california usa with mostly white people in charge

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The Abyss

Inspo: AlexMustToDraw

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"Caitlyn made amends by giving up her seat on the Council for Sevika!"

No she didn't.

Saló: "This is a closed Council meeting. Who let you in here?" Caitlyn: "I am a decorated officer. Leader of House Kiramman. Address me with respect, or keep your mouth shut."

Caitlyn is not a Councillor. She does not inherit her mother's seat. She is not entitled to attend a Council meeting. It has, at minimum, been several weeks since Jinx bombed the Council, given the events that take place over the span of episode 1. Cassandra was not the only Councillor killed in the attack, and yet we do not see Bolbok's or Hoskel's seats pass to anybody in their clan/house. The only Councillors in attendance at the meeting are Shoola, Mel, and Saló. There is, evidently, some other selection process for appointing people from Piltover's leading families to the Council that has not yet been implemented. Council seats are not inherited like titles; they do not pass from the holder to the next in line.

Caitlyn did not give her seat on the Council to Sevika.

It wasn't hers to give.

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not to be, like, politiquelle in my discussion of the response to famously non-political show Netflix Arcane™

but it's so genuinely unsettling to see people who would probably characterise themselves as Nice Liberals with the Right Liberal Opinions turn around in the year of our lord 2024-2025 and without a single moment's hesitation, employ rhetoric like

criminals are not civilians, and if you commit a crime, the police can take away whatever rights they want

drone gas strikes save lives, the ONLY alternative to drone gas strikes is boots-on-the-ground military action, there's NO OTHER WAY

(and we know there's no other way because the people who wanted to do the strikes said so, please don't question this false dichotomy)

gas is a precision weapon. we can program gas to only hit terrorists and criminals, actually

and if any children or factory workers or non-violent offenders or bartenders are harmed, well, then they should have thought of that before being terrorists and criminals

(remember, this is the ONLY WAY. don't think about the fact that attacks are seemingly happening out of a desire for independence and that every councillor still alive already voted for independence, this is THE ONLY WAY)

how do we know everyone in that building we hit was a terrorist and a criminal? well, intelligence reports allowed us to designate that building a terrorist and criminal hideout. so, ipso facto, everyone in it must have been a terrorist and a criminal. QED.

no civilians were harmed in the making of this precision attack :)

those who say civilians were harmed as a result of this precision attack are making up the numbers :)

this is the ONLY WAY :)

please do not talk about alternative solutions. there is no other way. look at the rainbow flag sticker on this gun!

truly, this is the most moral army in the world

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Jinx should have waged war on Piltover, just cos she was feeling bad and she felt like it, and it should have been so bad that Cait/Piltover get a propaganda machine going and expose everything saying that she intentionally/deliberately killed Silco, who successfully already made a peace deal and was gonna be a councilor of an independent Zaun, but Jinx doesn’t even care what they say about her and doesn’t engage with any of that and just keeps on doing her own thing (blowing stuff up).

Only for that to not work anyway cos nobody including Sevika believes she’d kill him, or that she’d fight topside so hard if they weren’t the ones who actually killed him and are lying, leading to her antics being admired and viewed as what it indeed is in a way, a payback for Piltover hurting her family, smth everyone in the Undercity can relate to, and/or that she’s doing it for the ideological reasons that are the basis of Silco’s organization that she was a part of, creating a basis for ppl interpreting her actions as revolutionary, even if that’s incorrect (at least initially) and leading to Sevika wanting to team up with her and having a change of heart when it comes to her bcos of her conviction that she’s innocent and is grieving Silco in a way that Sevika can respect. And so for the first time they see eye to eye and maybe get some kinda alliance going. Maybe they find common ground and leave past quarrels behind and start bonding a little, starting with zero.

Later on it could be so juicy if Jinx admitted the truth.

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Reducing Mel's character from 'cunning and witty political leader with a complicated relationship/feelings towards her mother and her home' to 'pretty mage lady who kills her mom and then goes full noxuian' felt a bit disrespectful.

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Vi became an empty characters that only exists for the Caitlyn storyline, but Jinx became the same thing too. She lost her personality, just like Vi, and was used as a tool to shine a sympathetic light on Caitlyn and give her a reason to be even more of a bad person. Everybody and everything revolves around Caitlyn and how she feels, but never how she make others feel.

Season 2 feels like a fanfic written by a Caitlyn obsessed fan.

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You know, I'll give Arcane S2 this.

There is actually one attack we are shown in full, from start to finish, during which attackers are shown to explicitly bypass civilians, and to target and engage with only clearly-designated enemy soldiers, enemy heads of state, and one (1) additional individual actively engaging in combat against them.

So let's all give it up for our ethical queen: