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Does V5 just hate Vicissitude? Is that it?

Gehenna War now has Bloodform, so that's three Vicissitude disciplines! Except, just looking at the experience costs…

Fleshcrafting: Originally, ranges from Vicissitude 1-3 (Vic 1, Malleable Visage, allows the user to shape themselves, Vic 2, the OG Fleshcrafting, allows you to shape the muscle, fat, and cartilage of others, Vic 3, Bone Craft, lets you alter… bone). Given the low levels, entirely possible to have it straight out the gate.

V5, amalgam of Protean 2 and Dominate 2 for Vicissitude to shape yourself, giving a cost of 4 and definitely not a starter discipline to say nothing of how stupid 'it uses Dominate because you're bossing your body around!' is, and Protean 3 and Dominate 2 (cost of 5) for Fleshcrafting, to craft others. Instead of… 2.

Zulo Form: Originally, Vicissitude 4.

V5, amalgam of Protean 4, Dominate 2. Cost of 6.

Bloodform: Originally, Vicissitude 5. Nicely parallels with Protean 5, Mist Form.

V5, amalgam of Protean 5, Blood Sorcery 2. Cost of 7, of which two are at out-of-clan cost. Which, okay, you're turning yourself into liquid. Except the Protean equivalent, Mist Form, is still only Protean 5! Why does the Vicissitude version take another two discipline levels, and of an out-of-clan discipline to boot?

Yes, V5, fine, we get it, you don't like Tzimisce and Vicissitude!

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Does V5 just hate Vicissitude? Is that it?

Gehenna War now has Bloodform, so that's three Vicissitude disciplines! Except, just looking at the experience costs…

Fleshcrafting: Originally, ranges from Vicissitude 1-3 (Vic 1, Malleable Visage, allows the user to shape themselves, Vic 2, the OG Fleshcrafting, allows you to shape the muscle, fat, and cartilage of others, Vic 3, Bone Craft, lets you alter… bone). Given the low levels, entirely possible to have it straight out the gate.

V5, amalgam of Protean 2 and Dominate 2 for Vicissitude to shape yourself, giving a cost of 4 and definitely not a starter discipline to say nothing of how stupid 'it uses Dominate because you're bossing your body around!' is, and Protean 3 and Dominate 2 (cost of 5) for Fleshcrafting, to craft others. Instead of… 2.

Zulo Form: Originally, Vicissitude 4.

V5, amalgam of Protean 4, Dominate 2. Cost of 6.

Bloodform: Originally, Vicissitude 5. Nicely parallels with Protean 5, Mist Form.

V5, amalgam of Protean 5, Blood Sorcery 2. Cost of 7, of which two are at out-of-clan cost. Which, okay, you're turning yourself into liquid. Except the Protean equivalent, Mist Form, is still only Protean 5! Why does the Vicissitude version take another two discipline levels, and of an out-of-clan discipline to boot?

Yes, V5, fine, we get it, you don't like Tzimisce and Vicissitude!

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Is typography not a thing in these books? Who edited this and how did you do such a terrible job???

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Wtf Happened to Boons and the Harpy

You just stripped the Harpy of all of its job and called it a "herald" I know for a fact no harpy would let you pry its boon book from its cold dead hands. Why not just make the Harpy an independent alliance of fellow boon registers? Instead of But its not even the Herald yet in the Core Rule Book everyone still calls it a Harpy and it still has its original role.

Status on 190 of the Core Rulebook

135 of the Core Rulebook

But in the Camarilla book there's no mention of the original duties of the Harpy being a boon collector for that Camarilla City? Why even call it the Harpy???? Why make Scourge and Sheriff the same job??? Why rewrite all of this for no reason other than to confuse players and be inconsistent af.

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Where's the Scourge v5????

Status on Page 194 of the Core Rulebook. BUT WHEN YOU CHECK THE CAMARILLA BOOK TABLE OF CONTENTS!

ITS LISTED UNDER SHERIFF. WHY? Why would you Write it SEPERATELY is it perhaps because ITS a DIFFERENT set of responsibilities?????

Camarilla book page 104. Not to mention the mf harpy has been stripped of everything that makes it the harpy. Wheres my mf BOONS?? YOU CANT JUST SAY THEY EXIST AND NOT EXPLAIN THEM.

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Humanity in v5

Id like to argue for the deletion of a rule Blush of life should absolutely allow you to have sex regardless of humanity. Literally makes 0 sense and id argue is not sex positive. Honestly it bothers me that humanity is boiled down to "you can eat and have sex" instead of the more monstrous you lose your empathy, and don't care about the destruction of others.

It genuinely bothers me that your rewards are sex and food instead of its harder for you to connect with the mortal world. Food I understand but on a basic level blush of life should just allow you to briefly appear human and all the bodily functions that come with that.

V20 on the issue ON LITERALLY PAGE 9

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Sex in v5

Everyone said hahah NO this is stupid and bad and were ignoring this. Page 237 Core Rulebook

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You Cannot Play an Elder Stop Teasing Me With the Possibility

What do you mean??? OLDER???? Page 180 of the Core Rulebook

YOU LITERALLY CANNOT MAKE ANYONE OLDER THAN ANCILLAE PER YOUR CHARACTER CREATION RULES on 137

We'll get to the set time frames of generations in another post I promise.