i hate how people have colloquially turned goth into "anything slightly edgy" or "when clothes black" like !!! please shut the fuck up!!! and then those same people will get mad at actual goths when we explain that no, goth isn't just when you wear black clothes. and no you dont even have to dress a certain way to be goth, its literally all about the music. the amount of times ive seen people say "well actually im goth but i dont listen to the music" makes me want to scream. like i hate to break it to you, but that makes you by definition, not goth. if you wanna call me a gatekeeper for saying a music based subculture is about the music then go for it!! you're still not goth tho!!!