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So for the GA this is flirty and romantic

This is not

This is yearning

This is not

And than when we say “If Will was a girl everyone would see it” is wrong

ok

-codedbywicked

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“We can play games for the rest of our lives”

Can we talk about this more. This has been said twice.

I mean, what did you think, really? That we were never gonna get girlfriends? We were just gonna sit in my basement all day and play games for the rest of our lives?

This one is giving “We are friends.” Mike was the one who imagined this. Will never implied anything like that. Once again, it was Mike projecting his own thoughts onto him.

Once we save El we should stop on the way home , she could make us like super rich and we would never have to work , we could just play D&D and Nintendo for the rest of our lives.

This is the moment Will says that line. Notice how, in Mike’s POV, he’s sunbathing again because that’s exactly what Mike wants.

That’s why right after this scene, Mike clearly starts feeling guilty about his feelings both towards Will and Eleven and begins to spiral, saying, “What if, after everything, she doesn’t need me anymore?”

I believe what he really means is , if she knew how I actually felt, I would lose her.

And that’s exactly what leads us to the painting scene.

Plus listen how Will still calls Hawkins “home.” Because just like Hawkins isn’t the same without Will, Lenora isn’t “home” without Mike.

I’m expecting a repetition of this line in Season 5 where Mike finally admits it without guilt by the way.

-codedbywicked

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Do we all agree the rainbow imagery in Hawkins Lab is fully symbolic?

The rainbow , commonly known as a symbol of queerness, diversity, truth, and hope is painted across the walls of a lab (Also El’s room) that isolates children, suppresses identity, and weaponizes thoughts.

Hawkins Lab = The System.

The system that claims to “help” the society while actively suppressing truth.

The system that uses strength as a mask for control.

And the whole story with Papa, Eleven, and Henry tells a metaphorical story about control, identity, and resistance. (I’ll expand on that in another post.)

And I’m pretty sure it’s all going to connect to Will at some point. Because narrative demands it.

-codedbywicked

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Ok this one is reaching but Ted Wheeler clocking Mike since right?

Mike really loosened his lips after the whole plot with El getting arrested. Ted was onto something again.

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How the Byler Fandom Grew in Parallel with Social Progress

As our societies evolved, (also fandom grew up) the more we questioned heteronormativity the more we became aware of human psychology and the true dynamics of relationships the clearer the love story Byler became.

The more we grew into better, more conscious versions of ourselves,the more we fought for our rights, and the more we began to recognize the subtext we started asking the “brave” questions.

The Rise of Awareness

As awareness of queer narratives expanded,

so did the Byler fandom. The more people challenged heteronormativity, fought against internalized homophobia,and developed psychological insight,the more they realized:

• Mileven was a performance, not a romantic connection.

• Will wasn’t “just the friend” he was the emotional center of the story.

• Mike wasn’t simply “confused” he was repressed, scared, and searching.

Media Literacy

Cinema evolved into a form of activism.People began to read instead of just watch. They analyzed the subtext, the cinematography, the parallels.

They realized Byler wasn’t just a possibility it was the story.

Byler = A Queer Narrative

Byler became more than a ship. It became a challenge to the system.

A declaration:

We see it. And we won’t unsee it.

And won’t let another queer love get buried under subtext.

It Grew with Society

As society developed, so did the Byler fandom.

Because people started to see, not just look. (Plus, it’s not like the show was being super subtle about it)

Of course, some people take a little longer to unlearn the norms. That’s part of the process, too , i guess.

-codedbywicked

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Mike I don’t care what the chief said. Will could be in danger (Proceeds to go, unarmed, into the rain heading straight to where Will went missing) Wheeler.

Mike I’m gonna make sure I’ll stay by your side whatever you do Wheeler

Mike I biked across the whole city in the rain I’m sorry I was being a total asshole Wheeler

And all the other seasons Mike where El turned to him and he decided to listen authorities and didn’t know what to do about it Wheeler.

Sometimes you make it very hard for me to defend you. Could you just please come out to Will?

-codedbywicked

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So something about Dustin plays a huge role in time traveling (?)

-“Very useful in the apocalypse.”

And this scene;

So he will find a ride through time?

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Rink-O-Mania: The Gayest Scene Ever

I gathered all the clues and somehow, there’s always more. (Let me know!)

Visual Parallels & Symbolic Clues

1-The cast has mentioned a few times that Stranger Things is like “the Dawson’s Creek of Netflix.”

If you happen to have the source link, please share it below , I couldn’t find it myself.

For context: Dawson’s Creek is a coming-of-age show that aired in the late ’90s and early 2000s. It’s well-known for its emotional depth and for ending with a surprising but meaningful queer couple (Jack and Doug) getting together.

Here’s the clear parallel to one of the episodes, posted by @gay-lien-from-space

2-It also parallels Season 2 , they started arguing right after passing the arcade machines, symbolizing the evolution of their relationship. The lighting is identical too.

3-When Mike closes the girls’ bathroom door and gets yelled at to “get out,” it plays right into the long-standing symbolism of doors and closets in his arc. In a way, this moment visually marks the final closing of “the girl door.”

4-

Production Details

1-El’s outfit was described by the costume designer as “the Will look.”

2-The song choices in this scene are insane — “Tarzan Boy,” “You Spin Me Round,” and “In the Closet.”

Here’s a full breakdown by LesbianMindflayer

https://youtu.be/digOzxUw5Zk?si=qpkyDmWbnoTRaJ_7

3-Not them putting blue and yellow lights literally everywhere than right above their heads.

(El😭)

4-“Shared Looks”

by MindflayerLOLZ

Narrative Clues

1-Mike is clearly jealous of Will.

He asks, “Do you guys come here a lot?” trying to figure out if Will’s crush is here, or if he brings her to this place.

Then, he hears that his girlfriend comes to the party but his best friend doesn’t.

And that’s when he smiles.

2-Mike subtly watches Will and picks up on the tiniest things.

4-https://www.tumblr.com/ghostlycleric/757346122746445824/im-sorry-i-cant-keep-telling-myself-this-moment by @ghostlycleric

5-Gayest Argument Ever:

• It felt like a year — for both of them.

• Will is the one sabotages the day by not paying attention to Mike.

• Will touches Mike for a second and Mike’s breath literally catches then he walks away in full gay panic.

• “What about us?” Nice one Will

• Mike’s expressions…

•https://www.tumblr.com/mikeslawyer/729828384345145344/will-said-what-about-us-but-mike-heard-what by @mikeslawyer

• Mike can’t tell him how hard he tried to reach out because he thinks Will moved on and is happy without him.

• “Let’s just find her, okay?” (Their daughter is hiding)

• They stand/sit together the whole way home. Not even a second apart.

We are friends, we are friends said every future couple in TV history.

And these two posts by @thewisewill80sbyers and @gayofthefae

I know there is much more , feel free the send me your takes so i can add them. <3

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How Love Triangles Served Byler in Season4

+ A Teaser Analysis on that note

The reason we could see Jancy in the teaser is because their tension with Steve has already been resolved. We saw Steve canonically become frustrated after their hug, and Robin comforted him. Throughout Season 4, Nancy and Jonathan only fought for each other never with each other. They were able to openly express everything they love about one another.

Even though there was a chemistry between Nancy and Steve, it was also shown that Steve is not the right person for Nancy. And I believe, by the end, he got his closure.

Meanwhile, we have another love triangle: Mike, El, and Will, Where Mike and El fight with each other, not for each other. Mike could only say “I love you” to save her life and only after being pushed by his best friend. He couldn’t reassure her about anything before that.

This comparison actively shows us what a strong couple looks like (Jancy) while Mileven’s dynamic continues to fall apart.

And importantly, Mileven’s issues remained unresolved at the end of the season. Unlike Steve, who was shown actively hurting but eventually accepting Nancy and Jonathan’s love, we never saw Mike and El truly going strong. In fact, the opposite happened.

And Robin and Vickie and Vickie’s boyfriend a pairing that paralleled Byler both visually and narratively. Their arc acted as a clue, to those with a little media literacy.

That’s why, in the teaser, they could easily show Nancy in a romantic context but not Mileven. Because doing so would’ve been a spoiler.

What I’m trying to say is:

If Mileven were truly the endgame, it wouldn’t make sense to show them together “as proof” right after the massive emotional cliffhanger we were left with.And that’s why i don’t even think its straightbaiting because it is clearly platonic.

Also, how we didn’t see any Rovickie content either. Because teasers are still for the general audience and these two are new couples that show will start openly introduce to the GA.

That’s why what does make sense is that not showing the new and obviously final couples this early on.

And that’s exactly what they did.

-codedbywicked

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So I have this idea

What if like the existing theory goes El somehow connected with Will in the Upside Down when she was escaping from the lab around the same time Will was taken by Vecna

Like, what if Will reached out to her (if he has powers or become the part of the hive mind), or she unknowingly reached into the void and connected with him?And that could be how she knew who Will was and that he was still alive and hiding in Season 1.

But not just that.

What if, during that connection in the void she piggybacked into Will’s memories?

And saw Lucas , Dustin and Mike there.

Felt what Will felt.

That could be why she immediately trusted Mike. Why she chose to trust him at least.

And maybe… she unknowingly absorbed Will’s feelings for him.

Like she transfered them (keep in mind she had no idea what the romantic feelings were till he kissed her just like Will feeling a deep connection to Mike but not aware yet that they are romantic) but since neither of them remembers exactly what happened that time maybe it was something emotional and subconscious.

That’s why maybe throughout the show it felt like Mileven always suppose to be platonic.

Idk felt like would be good way to show GA about the dynamics show had planned for since the beginning

-codedbywicked

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“You make me feel like I’m not a mistake at all. Like I’m better for being different.”

only proof i need.

I still can’t believe they actually put this in the show.

This line is my single proof. You don’t write something like this and end it with unrequited love.

With this one sentence, Will told Mike:

“I love you. And just because I love you, I’ve started to believe that what I am isn’t wrong. Because loving you feels so right.The way you are with me, the way we are together, the way you make me feel it’s too beautiful to be wrong. Being able to love you makes me feel like a better person.”

In a show that stands with love and difference can change the world, this single line feels like the heart of the story.

You don’t put this kind of line in this kind of a show if it’s not going to “pay off.”

You don’t write a love like this unless it’s meant to be proven true.

Especially not from someone who is also the main character and a wonderfull human being who once said, “I’m not gonna fall in love.”

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Another parallel that shows platonic Mileven and romantic Byler

(Season 1) He lost Will and got him back

(Season 2) He lost El and got her back

(Season 3) He lost Will emotionally

(Season 4) He got Will back emotionally, but got Eleven back only physically.

Even Karen’s shirts patterns, the color is the same.

It was platonic love with El.

(And I was worried too much about El)

But romantic love with Will.

(I don’t know maybe i felt like i lost you or something)

-codedbywicked

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Why their town? What have they done to deserve so much suffering?

The camera panning to Karen and especially to Holly after this always makes me feel uneasy by the way

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But what if it’s not?

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Clarke; As I tell my students once you opened up that curiosity door ; everything is possible.

Murray; They don't spend their lives trying to get a look at what's behind the curtain. They like the curtain. It provides them stability, comfort, definition.

Both opened you guys.

-codedbywicked

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Losing Will Broke Mike Long Before He Knew

Mike didn’t become the way he is just because of the internalized homophobia. He acted like that because he was gone for Will and kept losing him.

In Season 1, when Will went missing, Mike completely gone crazy. He didn’t just worry , he lost it. Even Dustin asked,

“Do you think it’s smart we’re going to the place Will went missing without weapons or anything?”

But Mike didn’t care. He just knew he had to find him. Finding Eleven gave him hope — not because of her, but because she became the a hope to find Will. That’s why he defended her the whole time.

And every time he asked El, “What is wrong with you?”, behind that question was a boy losing his inner storm. Feeling like he was failing Will. And just when he thought he was about to find him… he saw his body.

Then, there was hope again: Will’s voice through the walkie-talkie. Mike softened towards Eleven again, because the hope returned. It’s actually crazy how he “just knew” Will was alive.

And finally… they got him back.

Season 2

But this was the third time Mike almost lost Will. And this time, they had the “ shared trauma” And something shifted. Mike’s feelings grew stronger. His behavior , the way he looked at Will, the way he cared had always been different. But maybe this was the first time even he felt how deep it was. He was terrified. And maybe, at the Snow Ball, when he danced with that random girl… maybe something clicked. Maybe he felt the pain of losing him. Maybe pain of knowing he could never have something he can’t even admit he wants.

Then El came back. And her return saved him from the guilt. (both guilt of the way he feels and guilt of failing El herself) She helped him escape the overwhelming relief and pain. So,he attached himself to her. He chose to perform.

That’s how we got Season 3 Mike who tried to push Will away not because he didn’t care, but because he cared too much. He was scared of losing him again. (“If she’s pushing you away, it’s probably just because she’s scared of losing you. Just like you’re scared of losing her.”)

But by pushing Will away… Mike felt like he lost him again. (What if you want to join another party) And then six months of barely talking. Six months of Mike realizing. By Season 4, he just couldn’t do it anymore.

Because “Hawkins isn’t the same without him.”

(Mike isn’t the same without him.)

And that’s why I believe Mike fell first. Will is intuitive. If he fell like this it’s because something in Mike gave him hope. Sure, Will developed feelings because their bond was special. But I think it was Mike who made it special in the first place.

I’m not saying they’re not naturally perfect for each other they are. They form the most beautiful bond. But the way Mike initiated things… that’s probably what gave Will the courage to fall. Mike became Will’s safe place, his home.

And honestly… they were probably unknowingly a couple already. Long before either of them realized it.

-codedbywicked

(Mike’s Closeted Journey full essay on my blog)

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I know most of us want Mike to get Vecna’d so we can finally see his side of the story with the best Byler edit ever. But…

What if it’s shown through Will?

But instead of focusing on how much Will loves Mike, they show us why. Because, at least to me, Will didn’t fall for Mike out of nowhere. “Not at the first sight” His feelings didn’t appear without reason. It was the way Mike is naturally with him and the way Mike treated him that made Will fall so hard. Mike made himself Will’s safe space. Not forced. But through the way Mike bonded with him.

What if they show this side of the story to us through Will?

Not just Will’s feelings, but the reasons behind them.

Because Mike fell first. Maybe not consciously. But enough for Will to feel safe. Enough for him to know he was loved.

-codedbywicked

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Our boy will finally get his long deserved happily ever after. We trust.