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Anyways way to go Pomni or Jax 🎉

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Caine getting angry over the votes is making me crazy

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super babies on patrol (at the dog park)

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Wally and Dick's moms have the same name (Mary)

Dick and Clark's dads have the same name (John)

Clark and Bruce's moms have the same name (Martha)

I don't know why I just now realized Wally's and Dick's mothers have the same name or why that's such a groundbreaking information to me.

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I think we give Batman the wrong credit for Nightwing's no-killing rule. I've seen others say that his no-killing policy comes from Bruce, but more accurate would be to say that the fear of breaking that rule comes from Bruce while the morals already existed within Dick Grayson.

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BATMAN/TWO-FACE: FACE THE FACE (2006)

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Will I ever get over this moment? No. But life goes on. Not for me.

Batman vs. Robin #3

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Several gangs flock to a local high school to pick off the competition and the bats split up to take them down. Nightwing is highly effective (Batman #631)

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Man why is it that people are willing to accept that Bruce was a really weird hypercompetent child but not Dick?? Is it just because Dick is friendlier and more cheerful and spends slightly less time staring directly into your soul with those highbeam headlight eyes?

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So like I do agree that Cass is the most fitting successor to the Batman mantle, and in any universe where Bruce retires that it should go to her. But in any universe where Bruce dies? It's Dick. No doubt in my mind.

And that's very much because the "Batman" mantle is about a trauma you don't, can't move past or recover from. And Dick hasn't wanted that mantle because he's put a lot into growing and moving past his trauma.

But if he loses Bruce? Dick is making the grab for that cowl. Time and again THAT is the trauma he can't move past, the wound that won't heal.

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Why is Dick always so mad

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I have a question especially after seeing your Robin post... Is Nightwing name after Superman or after Batman? Because I remember in one issue that Dick said it was because of Superman legend and in another issue Dick saying something like "even my new hero name relates me with you". So whats the origin behind Nightwing name?

“Even my hero name relates me to you” sounds familiar but I’m drawing a blank on what that’s from?  Anybody know?

As for the rest of your question:    

It’s both Superman AND Batman per Dick’s original reasons for choosing the name in Tales of the Teen Titans #44.

“Both name and costume are based on other people… both mentors and friends.”

The name “Nightwing” first showed up in Superman #158 in 1963, with Superman and Jimmy Olsen under the mask.

It’s also very explicit in text that they were inspired by Batman and Robin.

In Summary- Superman and Jimmy were on Kandor and had to go undercover, so they decided to take a page from Batman and Robin and base their costumes on the local fauna.

(I like to think that Supes showed up in the Batcave after the end of Superman #158 and they had a good laugh, which is also how Dick knows the story.)

Anyways, unless a knowledgeable Superman fan wants to come correct me, my understanding is that “Nightwing as a Legend” was a 1999 Chuck Dixon retcon  from Nightwing: Secret Files and Origins that established new post-crisis canon, with Dick going to Clark for support after deciding to leave Robin behind.  (The same scene would also show up again in Nightwing: Year One in 2005.)

So that’s the point we put aside the direct Batman connection and focus more on the Superman side of things.  (Although, we are still talking about a character named NIGHTWING.)

Post New52, this is still the canon, although it incorporates some of the more modern world-building regarding the Kryptonian gods.  (Grayson Annual #2)

And Post-Rebirth. (Nightwing Rebirth #1)

Superman comics have also gone on to further develop the lore of Nightwing and Flamebird as gods/legends, with Flamebird developing into a female persona and her and Nightwing being Siblings/Lovers.  They have also put a couple of different characters in those superhero mantles over the years, with Chris Kent and Thara Ak-Var probably being among the most prominent.  But also, I’m less familiar with the various developments regarding the Nightwing/Flamebird mythos on that side of the DC universe.

With all that said, I want to unpack some of this for a minute, so have some other assorted thoughts:

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I made a post involving young/feral/perceived cryptid Dick Grayson and someone tagged something about Barry Allen losing his mind when this terrifying child befriends his nephew and I have NOT stopped thinking about this since.

Because like, imagine you're Barry Allen. You've been doing this hero thing for a while, and you've seen a lot of things, but now your nephew has gotten himself wrapped up in this too, and goddamnit, you're worried because you know this life isn't easy.

Then he makes a friend - Ollie's boy, Roy Harper - and you breathe a little bit easier, because you know that however rough this life is, it's worse without friends. Besides, it's sweet. They're young boys, and they roughhouse, and tell stupid jokes, and play video games together sometimes. It's nice to see Wally just be a kid with someone that he doesn't have to hide from. And, yeah, sure, they get into trouble sometimes, pull pranks that go too far, get themselves in danger because they think they can take on something they can't, but it's still a net positive, because you need friends in this line of work, and that's exactly what they've found.

And you think about Robin. Not often, but you do think about him. Because you know nothing about him, and you don't want to, but he still has the face of a boy that's younger than your nephew. You wonder if he has friends.

But really, you don't think about him that much. You don't want to. He's freaky, and generally, thinking too hard about anything to do with the Bat is inadvisable.

Then there's a fight. A big one. You don't even really know who's fighting on your side until everything has cleared. It was basically the entire Justice League, no one dead, but a few injuried. And your nephew's there too. And Roy. And Robin.

No one really goes near Robin, ever. It was an unspoken rule, of sorts, and you're pretty sure it's just because everyone's scared of messing with Batman's little bird, though whether that was due to fear of Batman or the bird himself, you're not sure.

But Wally doesn't seem to know this. Wally doesn't seem to care. He runs up to Robin with a big grin on his face and grabs his hand, trying to tug him over to where Roy was patching up some injuries.

You notice that Robin doesn't go with him immediately. In fact, he looks confused. But if you know anything about your nephew, he's persistent, and eventually Robin lets himself be dragged over. Roy seems unconcerned, but you can tell that the other adults in the vicinity shift uncomfortably, unsure of what they should do, or if they should do anything at all.

It doesn't last long anyway. Batman calls for Robin and he bounds off, but you notice he stops and hesitantly waves a gloved hand at your nephew before he leaves. Wally waves back.

You don't think much of it.

Then, the next time you and Ollie catch Wally and Roy fighting something they shouldn't be, Robin's right there with them. It's the first time you've seen Robin without Batman in close proximity, and you think he looks just a little bit more human. He smiles sheepishly with the other boys when they're chastised for fighting things that they shouldn't, and you watch Roy ruffle his hair like there's nothing to be worried about. You're still worried.

You still don't think much of it though. Even when Robin's there with the two of them the next time, and the time after that.

But then, oh dear god, he's in your house. You don't actually notice him at first, for two whole hours, because it's normal to see Wally and Roy sitting on the couch and playing video games. You just don't realize that there's a third head in between them until you sit down in an adjacent armchair to see what they're playing, because Robin is just short enough that his head doesn't peak over the back of the couch.

You have to blink a few times to make sure what you're seeing is real, because nestled in between the two slightly older heroes in their civilian attire is Robin, sans his gloves, cape, and boots, but otherwise still in full uniform with his mask still firmly in place, holding a video game controller and laughing while Wally elbows his side to try to make him lose.

And you just sit back in your chair and stare, because what the hell are you even supposed to do in this situation? Your nephew has decided to make friends with Batman's goddamn son - the boy that you've seen sneak up on League members with super hearing, break a grown man's femur, and somehow fade into shadows in a bright yellow cape - and it worked. And now he's playing video games on your couch. And you don't know what to do about that.

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I would like to remind everyone that Jason Todd was not Tim's idol or favorite Robin. Tim Drake was Dick Grayson's number one fan and that was his Robin. Jason was the ghost that he had to live up to.

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“I’m talking about you. You’ve been trying to kill yourself for the past six months.”

“No—I—Bruce it’s not like that.”

“You know how I feel about killing, and you know why. And you know the difference between shooting a bullet and failing to step in front of one. You lost sight of the value of Roland Desmond’s life. If you need me to forgive you for that, I probably can. But it won’t mean anything until you forgive yourself. And you have no right to expect me to excuse you for losing sight of the value of yours. You made a mistake. Are you going to let it be your last?”

After passing out from radiation exposure, dick wakes up in the cave to Alfred treating him. He confesses to not saving blockbuster when he could have and Bruce walks in to ask him why he didn’t. Dick admits it was because for just a moment he didn’t want to. He then rushes to assure Bruce he never wanted anyone dead before that (save joker and Zucco) and Bruce tells him that he can forgive dick for losing sight of the value of blockbusters life. What he can’t forgive is dick losing sight of his own. (Nightwing Vol.2 #117)

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Bruce I Don't Respect Dick's Friends Wayne

World's Finest: Teen Titans #1

Robin & Batman #2

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(outsiders vol.3 #11)