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Have to remember this 😀
As sticking to studying is the hardest part of learning a language, the following can help you keep going and succeed:
Pick a short term goal that is doable within a month to a year, and that upon reaching will motivate you personally. (Example: your ultimate goal is to read novels - so you set a short term goal to read 1 graded reader. Or your ultimate goal is to travel and have casual conversations - so you make your short term goal to get on a language exchange app or speak with a tutor about how you are/where you live/what you do for work/what like to do, and ask them the same. Or your ultimate goal is to watch shows, so your short term goal is to watch a 5-10 minute chunk of a show and understand the main idea happening even if you have to look up words as you watch).
Pick study activities that allow you to do the things you want to do (aka things related to your goals) as soon as possible. So if you want to read, finding a way to do reading as you study will keep you going (Example: using graded readers, reading while looking words up, reading while listening to learner materials, picking textbooks that include reading excerpts). If you want to watch shows, finding a way to watch shows as part of your study routine (Examples: CI Lessons, watching cartoons, watching things you've seen before in another language, watching shows while looking words up). If you like listening to stuff, finding a way to fit listening to the language into your schedule (listening to Learner Podcasts during your day, listening to podcasts or audio dramas while looking up words, listening to songs and looking up the words, crosstalk). If you want to talk with people, getting on a language exchange site/app or getting a tutor or taking a conversational class, so you can regularly talk with people as part of study (also doing things to talk more on your own - shadowing, looking up how to say things and recording yourself speaking about topics you want to be prepared to chat about, doing Crosstalk sessions with a tutor or language exchange partner so you can listen to the tutor talk in the language even when you don't know how to say things yet).
Commit to study 50 hours. Yes I mean it. The beginning is when you're most likely to quit. Push through it. If you can manage to study 50 hours, you want to reach your goals enough to commit.
If you've been floundering the first 50 hours, look up different people's study plans they've shared online. Stuff like Refold, Dreaming Spanish, Glossika, Listening Reading Method, Glossika, Assimil, "learned to speak X," "learned to read X," "passed B2/HSK 6/JLPT N1" look up your personal goals "learned to understand anime," "learned to read webnovels," "learned enough to play video games," "learned to have conversations." Browse what people say they've done as their study plans, to achieve the same goals you have. Pick a person who had the same goal as you and achieved their goal, copy what they did. Ideally copy someone who likes to study in similar ways to you. So if you hate anki don't copy someone who used a ton of anki, if you hate reading don't copy someone who mostly studied by reading. So if you like speaking, and find someone who achieved the goal of speaking to people comfortably and did it with a lot of speaking, copy that person.
If you're struggling to make a study plan: find a person similar to you, with similar likes and goals who has succeeded, and copy their study plan. Copying someone who was successful means there's a decent chance their study plan works. So it may work for you. You may need to adjust the study plan, if it turns out not being ideal for you. But it's a good starting place if you have no idea what to do.
Alternatively, if you're struggling to make a study plan: sign up for a formal class so you can get a potential study plan from a teacher, or get a structured textbook, and just stick to the plan they recommend. Include some study activities directly related to your goals, to ensure you are motivated.
(So an example: if totally lost on where to start with say learning Japanese, and you want to play video games as your goal, you might buy Genki I, Genki 2, and Tobira textbooks, and just work through them while also playing japanese video games and looking up unknown words and grammar as you play. You'd get a structured study plan from the textbooks - so you'd work on listening, reading, speaking, writing. And you'd also regularly get to do your goal activity as practice and reinforcement of what you're learning, motivating you).
Commit to study 200 hours. Congrats, you've done more than most people. Depending on the language, and your study plan, you might even have reached an intermediate enough level to start reading stuff, watching stuff, and conversing with people assuming you're willing to look up words/grammar as needed. So if your goal is to do one of those things, it's going to only get easier from here on - you can finally study mainly by just DOING your goal activities. If you can reach this point, it will be easier to keep going, or even to study on and off (since you'll have some skills to do something in the language even if you leave and come back to it).
Keep going until you reach the point you can do some (or most) study by just doing your goal activities (or an easier variant of your goals) - with tools to help if necessary. Once you reach the point you can actually do the thing you want to do, even if badly or needing to rely on a lot of tools to do it, it becomes easier to keep studying. You find it's easier to turn study time into just regular hobby time. You find it's easier to stay motivated, because you're frequently doing what you wanted to do when you started learning.
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Have to remember this 😀
As sticking to studying is the hardest part of learning a language, the following can help you keep going and succeed:
Pick a short term goal that is doable within a month to a year, and that upon reaching will motivate you personally. (Example: your ultimate goal is to read novels - so you set a short term goal to read 1 graded reader. Or your ultimate goal is to travel and have casual conversations - so you make your short term goal to get on a language exchange app or speak with a tutor about how you are/where you live/what you do for work/what like to do, and ask them the same. Or your ultimate goal is to watch shows, so your short term goal is to watch a 5-10 minute chunk of a show and understand the main idea happening even if you have to look up words as you watch).
Pick study activities that allow you to do the things you want to do (aka things related to your goals) as soon as possible. So if you want to read, finding a way to do reading as you study will keep you going (Example: using graded readers, reading while looking words up, reading while listening to learner materials, picking textbooks that include reading excerpts). If you want to watch shows, finding a way to watch shows as part of your study routine (Examples: CI Lessons, watching cartoons, watching things you've seen before in another language, watching shows while looking words up). If you like listening to stuff, finding a way to fit listening to the language into your schedule (listening to Learner Podcasts during your day, listening to podcasts or audio dramas while looking up words, listening to songs and looking up the words, crosstalk). If you want to talk with people, getting on a language exchange site/app or getting a tutor or taking a conversational class, so you can regularly talk with people as part of study (also doing things to talk more on your own - shadowing, looking up how to say things and recording yourself speaking about topics you want to be prepared to chat about, doing Crosstalk sessions with a tutor or language exchange partner so you can listen to the tutor talk in the language even when you don't know how to say things yet).
Commit to study 50 hours. Yes I mean it. The beginning is when you're most likely to quit. Push through it. If you can manage to study 50 hours, you want to reach your goals enough to commit.
If you've been floundering the first 50 hours, look up different people's study plans they've shared online. Stuff like Refold, Dreaming Spanish, Glossika, Listening Reading Method, Glossika, Assimil, "learned to speak X," "learned to read X," "passed B2/HSK 6/JLPT N1" look up your personal goals "learned to understand anime," "learned to read webnovels," "learned enough to play video games," "learned to have conversations." Browse what people say they've done as their study plans, to achieve the same goals you have. Pick a person who had the same goal as you and achieved their goal, copy what they did. Ideally copy someone who likes to study in similar ways to you. So if you hate anki don't copy someone who used a ton of anki, if you hate reading don't copy someone who mostly studied by reading. So if you like speaking, and find someone who achieved the goal of speaking to people comfortably and did it with a lot of speaking, copy that person.
If you're struggling to make a study plan: find a person similar to you, with similar likes and goals who has succeeded, and copy their study plan. Copying someone who was successful means there's a decent chance their study plan works. So it may work for you. You may need to adjust the study plan, if it turns out not being ideal for you. But it's a good starting place if you have no idea what to do.
Alternatively, if you're struggling to make a study plan: sign up for a formal class so you can get a potential study plan from a teacher, or get a structured textbook, and just stick to the plan they recommend. Include some study activities directly related to your goals, to ensure you are motivated.
(So an example: if totally lost on where to start with say learning Japanese, and you want to play video games as your goal, you might buy Genki I, Genki 2, and Tobira textbooks, and just work through them while also playing japanese video games and looking up unknown words and grammar as you play. You'd get a structured study plan from the textbooks - so you'd work on listening, reading, speaking, writing. And you'd also regularly get to do your goal activity as practice and reinforcement of what you're learning, motivating you).
Commit to study 200 hours. Congrats, you've done more than most people. Depending on the language, and your study plan, you might even have reached an intermediate enough level to start reading stuff, watching stuff, and conversing with people assuming you're willing to look up words/grammar as needed. So if your goal is to do one of those things, it's going to only get easier from here on - you can finally study mainly by just DOING your goal activities. If you can reach this point, it will be easier to keep going, or even to study on and off (since you'll have some skills to do something in the language even if you leave and come back to it).
Keep going until you reach the point you can do some (or most) study by just doing your goal activities (or an easier variant of your goals) - with tools to help if necessary. Once you reach the point you can actually do the thing you want to do, even if badly or needing to rely on a lot of tools to do it, it becomes easier to keep studying. You find it's easier to turn study time into just regular hobby time. You find it's easier to stay motivated, because you're frequently doing what you wanted to do when you started learning.
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More Chinese Podcasts
Beginning of this list is for learners, and roughly gets harder as you go down, the last few podcasts are not made for learners.
Tea Time Chinese (easiest one for me)
Convo Chinese
Talk to Me in Chinese (I am almost able to follow)
One Call Away
Daily Mandarin
Sensing Chinese
Maomi Chinese (english is in this one)
Chill and Learn Chinese (a lot of english in this one)
Nidiamedia 霓达故事 (chinese paranormal stories, I am almost able to follow)
Nidiamedia True Crime
Fu Yi Lou (another true crime podcast)
After Sunset (another true crime podcast)
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The 然's
突然,虽然,忽然. and the other 然's can often get mixed up, so here's a quick explanation of some of the most common ones!
突然 (Túrán): This means suddenly or unexpectedly
居然 (Jūrán): This kind of means suddenly, but more in the sense of "surprisingly" or to suggest disbelief at something that happened.
忽然 (Hūrán): This also means suddenly or unexpectedly, but it has a more stronger connotation.
既然 (Jìrán): This is a conjunction meaning "since" or "now that"
既然the weather is great, let's go out!
既然 you aren't busy, let's go watch a movie.
不然 (Bùrán): This means "otherwise" or "or else";
You should study, 不然 you won't do well on the exam.
虽然 (Suīrán): This means although or even though.
虽然 I'm not good at singing, I still like to go to the karaoke.
当然 (Dāngrán): 当然 means certainly or definitely and can be used as a reply:
Can you help me with A? 当然!
自然 (Zìrán): This can mean nature or naturally.
China's 自然 is very beautiful.
She speaks Chinese 得很自然.
仍然 (Réngrán): This can mean "still" or "yet".
I仍然 haven't read that book.
依然 (Yīrán): Similar to 仍然, this also means still" or "yet" but it's usually used in more formal and literary works, whereas 仍然 is more often used in spoken language.
果然 (Guǒrán): 果然 can be used to mean "indeed" or "as expected"
This movie is 果然 interesting.
竟然 (Jìngrán): This is an adverb used to suggest surprise or something unexpected.
He竟然forgot her birthday.
显然 (Xiǎnrán): This means "clearly" or "obviously".
This soup 显然 hot.
偶然 (Ǒurán): This means "accidentally" or "by chance".
We 偶然 met at the same cafe.
How many other 然's do you know about? Drop a comment!
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2024年9月19日
汉字:杨;扬;持;待;征 (685/3050)
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2024年9月18日
汉字:勿;物;易;踢;汤;场 (680/3050)
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2024年9月17日
汉字:聚;汁;泼;演 (674/3050)
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2024年9月16日
汉字:润;渐;汗;平;幸;赶;超;趣 (670/3050
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汉字:杂;余;除;途;汇;距;巨;涨;湾;引;弹;淡 (662/3050)
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汉字:郎;娘;姑;沙;省;眼;睛;沉;染;究 (650/3050)
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2024年9月11日
汉字:永;泳;脉;承;兰;之;乏;派;游;施;族;旅;良;浪 (640/3050)
词汇 : 永不;永远; 动脉; 承担; 承认; 承受; 之后; 之间;之一;之中;之外; 之下; 之所以;之内;之上;百分之;不乏;乏力;派出所; 派出;游客;游泳; 实施;施工;家族;旅游;旅客;旅行;良好;不良; 新浪;海浪
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2024年9月10日
汉字:尊;酷;酸;波;胡;湖(626/3050)
词汇 : 尊重; 自尊;自尊心; 酸奶; 心酸; 波动; 胡乱
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2024年9月7日
汉字:落; 露; 满; 酒; 配;醒 (620/3050)
词汇: 落实; 落后; 回落; 露出; 满足; 充满; 不满; 酒店; 白酒; 红酒; 配合; 分配; 配备; 提醒; 醒来; 清醒;睡醒
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2024年8月13日
汉字:济;剂; 清; 精;消; 治 (614/3050)
词汇: 经济 ; 精力 ;消息 ; 取消 ; 消化;治安
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audio study methods
Still working on that 'lazy' study plan post, since I am just not satisfied with any chinese grammar guide summaries online enough to recommend them as a small grammar intro. If anyone knows of any good 'grammar overview summary' articles or sites for chinese grammar, please let me know. (I like AllSetLearning's Chinese Grammar Wiki but it is huge and in depth and not something I'd recommend a learner 'just read through' on month 4 of learning, and the grammar guide summary site I used as a beginner that was very easy to read through in a few hours... no longer exists)
So in the meantime. Not a grammar study tip, but a general 'lazy' option for language learners who (like me) can't focus on stuff like anki, or just don't want to. I go more in depth about using audio lessons and audio flashcards on other posts, and on the lazy study plan post i'm drafting, but the short of it is: you can listen and learn while doing your normal daily activities. That's what makes the study method so convenient. You don't have to squeeze in any extra time, or change your daily life schedule to make time for chinese, to use audio lessons and audio flashcards.
You simply find some times during the day when you'd either normally listen to audio in the background (like if you listen to music when commuting or shopping, or if you listen to podcasts when working, or if you listen to youtube while exercising or browsing social media). As usual, the more time the better as you'll make faster progress if you study 1-2 hours a day or more. But anything is better than nothing. So lets say you commute to work 30 minutes in morning and evening, there's your hour of studying audio. Or you go for a walk at lunch for 15 minutes, and browse tumblr for an hour scrolling (that's 1 hour and 15 minutes of study). It's very easy to fit 30 minutes of audio study into a day, and it's fairly easy to fit even 2-4 hours of audio study if you're so inclined. I usually do 30 minutes - 2 hours of audio study some days, since when I walk I decide if I feel like listening to a youtube essay or chinese or japanese stuff, when driving I decide which I feel like listening to, and I want to listen to something in english 2/3 of the time.
How do you use audio study material? Well, the easy way is you just press play on it, let it play in the background while you do other stuff, and that's it. If you tend to avoid studying new stuff (like me), then I recommend PRIORITIZING listening to NEW AUDIO every time, until you get into the habit of listening to NEW stuff to learn. Then you can re-listen to stuff sometimes, as review, especially when you're doing activities you have less attention on audio during. So for example: you'd listen to new audio on the commute or when walking (when you can mostly focus on what you're hearing), and then re-listen to audio as review while working or scrolling tumblr and reading english (activities where you pay more attention to other things besides audio).
What can you listen to?
There's audio lessons - which would be something like ChinesePod101 (Immersive Language Chinese in the Hoopla library app), Coffee Break Chinese, youtube videos where teachers talk in english and explain chinese as they teach it. These are good for study material, because you comprehend what you're learning due to the english explanations of every word and grammar point you hear. These are good for beginners, because you will understand everything you're listening to, and learn new words and grammar, thanks to the explanations. The drawback with audio lessons is they require the most focus.
There's learner podcasts like TeaTime Chinese and Slow Chinese, these are more often ENTIRELY in chinese. So these are better for practicing comprehension of stuff you've studied elsewhere, rather than for learning new things. You can learn new words and grammar from these, but if that is your goal then re-listen to learner podcasts a decent amount (5-20 times or more until you can't guess/figure out any more word meanings).
There's audio flashcards (which I love). These are sentence audio in english, then repeated in chinese. The order may vary, the chinese may be repeated more than once. These are good for beginners and upward, because you get a translation of every single thing you hear in chinese. You can pick up new words and grammar from audio flashcards. Audio flashcards require less focus than audio lessons, because you can learn from sentences while you pay attention and then if your attention drifts you can just focus again to the next sentence you hear and continue learning. The drawback is there are no explanations for which word specifically translates to what, some translations are not literal, and there's no explanation of why the grammar is the way it is. Audio flashcards require the listener to try and guess what means what by exposure to chinese sentences and their translations. So it's harder than audio lessons in terms of explanations, but easier than learner podcasts. Audio flashcards are the best substitute for traditional flashcards or SRS apps like anki, if you're trying to improve your vocabulary by hundreds of words ASAP. Audio flashcards are dense with new vocabulary (usually 1 new word or grammar point per sentence you can learn), so you'll learn more words than you would with an audio lesson that is paced slower with more english explanations or a learner podcast which would ideally be mostly words you know and only 20% or less new words.
There's Spoonfed Chinese Anki audio files (which I recommend since these start out very basic and increase in difficulty while also repeating words a lot so you can review, they're shared on reddit if you search, or ask me), if you search 'chinese english sentences' on youtube or bilibili (i've done this with chinese japanese sentences on bilibili) you'll find videos like this where you hear audio english then audio chinese. Old glossika cd files are basically this structure as well, which you can find the audio files of for free online or free in libraries (I'm using the new glossika app for japanese but I'm hesitant to recommend the modern app courses as there's significant errors in japanese so I'm not sure how good/bad the chinese one is). If you're a beginner, then the audio flashcard material you pick won't matter much as you need to learn a few thousand common words first which will be in most materials you find. But if you're an upper beginner, you may wish to prioritize finding audio flashcards with MORE unique words, more sentences, or may want to transition to using learner podcasts more for new vocabulary. If you aren't running into at least one new word for every 5 sentences you hear in audio flashcards (and ideally one new word for Every sentence), then that audio flashcard is way too easy for you and you know enough words to move onto new study material.
Audiobooks and audio dramas - use these like learner podcasts, listen to ones you can comprehend the main idea of, and then re-listen until you can't guess/figure out any more new words. If you're not very good at listening comprehension (like me lol), then you may want to listen to a given audiobook/audio drama file 3-5 times before deciding if you can comprehend the main idea (and use the material). When my listening skills are rusty, or just in general since my listening skills are bad, it can take me a few times of listening to recognize words I 'already know' and then a few more times of listening for my brain to put the words i recognize together into 'comprehending' what was communicated. So if you can read better than you can listen, you may want to listen 3-5+ times to a new audio file before deciding if you can follow the main idea or if it's too hard. And if you can READ the audio drama transcript, chapter text, but cannot understand the audio file? Then it probably IS at a good level for you to listen to, you just need a lot more practice hearing and recognizing the words you can read. So re-listen.
All of these listening study methods are good for:
Adding more study time into your day, since you can do them while doing other things.
Learning new words and grammar, when you don't have the time (or don't want) to spend time dedicated mainly to focusing on your study material.
Learning new words and grammar, if you don't use flashcards or SRS like anki but want the benefit of learning lots 'faster' than you would if you only picked up words during active study time (active study time being when you ONLY are focusing on study activities: like reading chinese, watching cdramas, chatting/texting people, and looking up words)
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2024年8月03日
汉字:育 ;充 ;流 ;统;齐 (608/3050)
词汇: 教育;体育;发育;充分;交流;流行;主流;流感;流动; 系统;统一;统计;总统;齐全
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