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If anyone is still paying attention to this blog, I’m now @life-of-mage! I’m gonna change up what/how I post and all, but with the amount of time that’s passed (and my realizing I’ve mis-classpected myself), I feel like it’d be good to restart.

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Troll culture and biology (3/4)

More theories/headcanons about Trolls and their society. References my other posts tagged ‘troll headcanons.’

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If this post get to 200,000 notes by my 18th birthday (November 3rd 2020) I'll get my profile pic tattoo...

I'll get that little guy tattoo

Edit: at people wondering if I really do want this tattoo...I do it's cute and has good memories

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Hi, do you still offer classpecting advice? I'm trying to figure out my class and could use some help please D:

Hi, it’s been a while, but yes! Pm me and I’ll get back to you as soon as I can :)

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Yeah, you could interpret Aspects as perspectives; not as Aspects of reality but as ways to look at or interpret reality. In that way each Aspect would govern all of existence, but from a specific philosophical standpoint.

Oh cheese; that actually makes a lot of sense. Think about how Aranea thinks of the Sylph class compared to how we see Kanaya impact the story, or how Aranea thinks about Light compared to how Rose and Vriska do. Or consider John changing the material phase of his body from solid to gas, which really ought to fall under Space if Aspects cover different sets of everything in Reality, or Aradia literally fighting with an army of her Doomed selves spawned via timeline manipulation which seems pretty Doomy, or both Aradia and Sollux controlling their Reckoning meteors, which again seems very Spacey. Heck; the only “power” we see Tavros, our Page of Breath, use is basically a larger-scale and more polite version of our Thief of Light’s mind-control, and Kurloz, our Prince of Rage, can use his Rage powers the same way.

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If this isn’t dedication, I’m not sure what is.

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Any ideas for a temperamental Thief of Mind's land?

So sorry I haven’t gotten to this earlier! I’d suggest as a starting point, the Land of Tundras and Formulas (LOTAF). This land is extremely cold and wintry, and the weather capricious. As you explore, you find many strange compounds hidden under the earth or in the ice, and as they react, they form even stranger products—some of which have been poisoning the environment and consorts. Your quest is to learn how these compounds react, and make sure you don’t destroy the planet in the process.

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Just curious, have you done an analysis of Rogue of Light yet? I've been trying to figure my classpect out, and it seems a lot like me, but it's difficult to find many good personality explainations. I also got Light on the True Zodiac test (Lipio), but I don't know if Rogue is the right class for me.

Hi! I have not yet, and I don’t have the time now (sorry I saw this so late) but I’ll get started on it ASAP!

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Yeah, I think that started as theorizing about Karkat and Gamzee, or how Dave and Jade have opposite aspects and so John and Rose must too (but that doesn’t stand up with the other kids). But yes, those are exactly the pairings I meant.

We now know that…

Blood color has no bearing on aspect.

Aspect has no bearing on which moon you dream on.

KARKAT IS A MUTATED LIMEBLOOD CONFIRMED.

Aspects are clearly more fundamental than classes by a long-shot.

Those floating jade symbols from that one panel about troll symbols mean something!

Multiple trolls can have the same symbol.

Everybody go edit your trollsonas…

There’s possibly something fundamentally special about the original Homestuck trolls (since they have the True Signs).

Hope and Rage actually mean something.

Light and Void are knowledge-based, not fortune-based.

Apparently putting on and taking off masks is a Heart thing, not a Mind thing?

The WhatPumpkin aspect pairs are almost definitely not canon.

Guys, this is more instrumental than we thought. The veil that’s been hiding so much of the HS canon has been lifted a ton. There’s still speculation to do, but so much has been settled. Finally!

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@dahniwitchoflight Exactly, the WhatPumpkin pairings (named after the arrangement of aspects on a WhatPumpkin ad) are Breath/Light, Hope/Doom, Blood/Rage, Life/Void, etc. And those pairs are definitely not canon, because the aspect wheel is solidified otherwise. I could’ve been clearer with that, but the point is, Breath and Light or Blood and Rage are not opposites as many (many) people have theorized.

We now know that…

Blood color has no bearing on aspect.

Aspect has no bearing on which moon you dream on.

KARKAT IS A MUTATED LIMEBLOOD CONFIRMED.

Aspects are clearly more fundamental than classes by a long-shot.

Those floating jade symbols from that one panel about troll symbols mean something!

Multiple trolls can have the same symbol.

Everybody go edit your trollsonas…

There’s possibly something fundamentally special about the original Homestuck trolls (since they have the True Signs).

Hope and Rage actually mean something.

Light and Void are knowledge-based, not fortune-based.

Apparently putting on and taking off masks is a Heart thing, not a Mind thing?

The WhatPumpkin aspect pairs are almost definitely not canon.

Guys, this is more instrumental than we thought. The veil that’s been hiding so much of the HS canon has been lifted a ton. There’s still speculation to do, but so much has been settled. Finally!

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DAMN this explains things

New and Improved! Extended Zodiac Aspect Quiz Explained

Remember when I made this post? Well, I had a solid foundation, but it was total hubris thinking it was “Complete”, let me tell you.

This is still VERY important:

Maybe even more important than I thought before.

I was right when I said people were missing something when they thought it was just the aspect itself factoring in and that the adjacent aspects gave you points as well, but I was still missing something.

This is what’s actually going on: Your aspect is giving your aspect points, the adjacent aspect is giving it points, the opposite aspect is giving it points, the opposite adjacent aspect is giving it points.

That’s right. Far from being any sort of negative, the opposite aspect *actively gives points*, although obviously quite less than it gives itself.

When you think about it, this fits entirely with the spirographic nature of how things are presented. Things are connected to what is opposite of them and what is next door.

By the way, so you know, in case you saw the post before I edited it, and for the record on this post as well, the tie breaker bias order is the following: Time, Space, Heart, Mind, Hope, Rage, Light, Void, Breath, Blood, Life, Doom.

I haven’t nailed down the math exactly, yet, so I’ll have some concepts for that under readmore. UPDATE: I may have nailed it!

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I feel like the extended zodiac answered a lot of great questions we had about, say, Karkat’s blood and what determines your moon, but I agree, the aspect descriptions were really disappointing. TIME?! What was that?! My biggest problem was that it didn’t ever mention what the aspects stood for, which is, ya know, the whole point of having aspects. This is overall a really nice piece of canon, but that really let me down.

Regarding the Extended Zodiac

I feel compelled to make a post in light of the release of the extended zodiac, and with it canon aspect information. I’ll keep it brief.

I will be quite honest and admit that I find the aspect descriptions underwhelming, shallow, and disappointing. They feel half-assed and lack depth. If that’s all we’re getting, I think I would have preferred they weren’t released. The several classpectors I’ve spoken to so far about this feel the same.

so, with that in mind,

I’m not going to revoke or revise any of the theories I have shared to account for this new “canon” intel. Because the shitty quiz personality given to each aspect doesn’t hold a candle to the more extensive, more thorough, more creative, more interesting ideas that we theorists have been creating, sharing, and discussing for years. If we were to sweep all those theories off the table to replace them with a dozen brief paragraphs just because those paragraphs came from Hussie himself, it would be an injustice to all the effort and time invested in those ideas by the amazingly brilliant and dedicated theorists in this community.

I suppose it is kind of interesting to get some confirmation that we had the right idea, in most cases. But some of those aspect descriptions were just…not well done? Many Heroes of Rage are understandably upset over what they were given. I’ve spoken to Heroes of Heart that were confused by what they were told.

Almost everyone I’ve talked to got the wrong aspect from that quiz, including myself. (Time?? Really???)

I’m not altogether that surprised by that latter statement. I will always stand by the opinion that quizzes are an unreliable method of determining any part of your classpect (or personality), so to get our first canon classpect information within a shitty personality quiz is twice as bad.

or that’s how I feel, anyway. I will continue to run this archive as I did before, with hardly any acknowledgement of the new canon shit. maybe I’ll draft or share some posts analysing these new ideas, but that will have to wait for a week or two until my classes are over for the semester.

what about you? do you agree/disagree? feel free to share your thoughts as well, I’d be interested to hear from more of the classpecting community.

-AC

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Now that the new information has come out, what can you tell me about being a prince of mind? Anything that comes to mind really.

I don’t think the new info has changed a ton about Mind, but let’s see: a Prince of Mind destroys (with) logic and decision making. Princes of Mind, early on in their story, would be focused on destroying the enemy, making logical advances and strategies. But they really wouldn’t be all that happy with that position, preferring to employ Heart. While they’re good at doing Mind-y things like planning and decisions, their true desire is to understand themselves and follow their emotions. Eventually, this will lead them to destroy the Mind they had been using, abandoning logic and going with their gut.

Powers might include being able to find the most strategic way to defeat an enemy, or using logic to destroy the plans or opinions of others. Later on, they could possibly destroy someone’s mind (which would probably kill them) (I say probably because come on, this is Homestuck we’re talking about), or at least their logical faculties, making them unable to make informed decisions. 

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Homestuck: Where no one can ever tell what’s happening ever.

signs as: numbers from 1 to 288

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We now know that…

Blood color has no bearing on aspect.

Aspect has no bearing on which moon you dream on.

KARKAT IS A MUTATED LIMEBLOOD CONFIRMED.

Aspects are clearly more fundamental than classes by a long-shot.

Those floating jade symbols from that one panel about troll symbols mean something!

Multiple trolls can have the same symbol.

Everybody go edit your trollsonas…

There’s possibly something fundamentally special about the original Homestuck trolls (since they have the True Signs).

Hope and Rage actually mean something.

Light and Void are knowledge-based, not fortune-based.

Apparently putting on and taking off masks is a Heart thing, not a Mind thing?

The WhatPumpkin aspect pairs are almost definitely not canon.

Guys, this is more instrumental than we thought. The veil that’s been hiding so much of the HS canon has been lifted a ton. There’s still speculation to do, but so much has been settled. Finally!

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It's me againnnn. This one I'm REALLY curious about. What are the powers+personality of a Seer of Time?

Sorry if this took a while! I’ll focus on this one for now and get the other ones later. Let’s see... a Seer of Time understands time intuitively, rather than from learning by experience. They use their knowledge to guide others, typically.

Seers of Time, as they approach godtier, would be able to see various timelines, or gain insight into the future or past. They’d also have a great understanding of how time travel and all the Homestuck-y time shenanigans work, making this another classpect that’d be good at understanding Homestuck. They just get how all those twisty turny timelines work :) Not to mention that given Time’s association with abstract linear thought, and the Seer’s association with intuitive logical knowledge, these guys are probably very left-brained and good at getting abstract concepts and logical processes, or thinking in a linear way.

Sorry that this is kinda short, but I don’t have much else to say. Perhaps I’ll add on later.