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ENFP 2w3, 7w8, 8w9, sx/soGraduate student, age 24
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8 fix + 4 fix: the brutal honesty tritypes
458, The Scholar, known for seeking out the dark, gritty truths of the universe.
468, The Truth Teller, known for acting as the canary in the coal mine, always willing to speak their mind.
478, The Messenger, known for finding and communicating the magical truths of the universe.
All three of these tritypes have a distinct vibe of “honesty” to them. There’s a willingness to speak the truth without censoring yourself when appropriate. It’s a brutal honesty that intimidates others, but also inspires trust.
This honesty comes from the cooperation of the 4 and 8 fixes in these tritypes. The 4 has the goal of authenticity, and the 8 pursues goals directly. Thus, you get direct authenticity.
I’m in the 458 tritype. A lot of the time I’ll post random thoughts I have on my snap and insta stories. People are provoked by them. They say “you think the things we’re all thinking but you actually have the balls to post them”. A lot of the time we end up in discussions/debates over what I’ve said. We both come away more enlightened than before.
The best celebrity example of this I can think of is XXXTENTACION, an Sx/So 8w7 cp6w7 4w3 ESFP. In his 2015 No Jumper interview, he talks about this exact concept:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PV7Q2teRLPc
“What is real will prosper. What you feel in the night, what you feel in the morning, what you feel midday, that you don’t think other people have the same thoughts, you feel alone in this thought, but other people have the same thoughts. And it breeds… when you display this thought, it breeds a certain amount of comfort within people. And people start to feel like ‘this person understands me’ or ‘this person is fucking cool’”
Skip to 1:00:01 for the full convo on this topic. X talks about this concept of brutal authenticity in a fairly 6-ish way, explaining how it builds trust and helps you relate to people. But these are also things the 4 and 8 fixes desire to a degree on their own, just for different reasons. And the underlying concept, what is real will prosper, is the epitome of this 4 + 8 honesty.
There are both pros and cons to this enneagram trait, just like there are with any other. The pros generally start to outweigh the cons at moderate to high health.
The cons are excessive honesty. Revealing volunerability unintentionally (because to you, speaking the truth is strength regardless of what other people can do with that truth). Hurting/disrespecting others (especially true for core cp6s and 8s). Or even depression from being “too honest” with yourself, always willing to challenge your own sense of self and beliefs and focusing on what’s missing instead of what’s there (especially true for core 4s).
But the pros are immediate respect/trust/admiration from others. People take you seriously because they take you at your word; they can tell you’re being authentic. They look up to you and live somewhat vicariously through you, because you have the bravery to say (and even think) what they won’t. And, at your best, you can inspire others to speak up and be more upfront and authentic in their communication with the world.
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7s/7w8 Sx
7s are all about experiencing pleasure and avoiding pain. they tend to have energetic personalities and fast paced minds and have no problem asserting their desires and preferences upon the world. with the exception of Social 7s, 7s tend to be very self focused personalities, focused primarily on getting what they want and avoiding what they don’t. 7s also hate being controlled and will have no problem pushing back hard if they feel any attempts to do so. however, at the same time, 7s are usually pretty friendly and their playful, mischievous demeanor and thirst for adventure tend to draw people to them (though their shocking, irreverent, often sexual humor, and disregard for rules push just as many people away, particularly if the 8 wing is dominant). at their worst, 7s are narcissistic, gluttonous, entitled and extremely harsh/critical (both of themselves and others), tending towards tendencies of escapism and procrastination. at their best, 7s are lively, productive, confident, grateful and generous.
7w8: 7w8 is the bad boy of the enneagram. the 8 wing gives them a more visceral feel, more drive, more focus, and more ability to stomach the unpleasant aspects of pursuing their goals. 7w8s are impulsive, action oriented people and are usually more thrill seeking and competitive than their 7w6 cousins. 7w8s like to play rough and often enjoy pranks or practical jokes that cause the “victim” a little bit of pain. overall, the 7w8 has an energy like a race car, zooming toward the object of it’s desire.
Sexual 7s: the darkest subtype of 7 and the most in touch with 7’s feelings of frustration. they’re also the most introverted variant, spending lots of time dreaming of far off fantasies because, generally, there is little in the real world that really stimulates them. as a result, they often mistype as 4s and will not usually relate to the bubbly, party animal stereotype that has (quite inaccurately) been attached to 7. sexual 7s typically gravitate toward vibrant, attention grabbing dress and have a keen eye and appreciation for beauty.
—Healthy Levels—
Level 1 (At Their Best): Assimilate experiences in depth, making them deeply grateful and appreciative for what they have. Become awed by the simple wonders of life: joyous and ecstatic. Intimations of spiritual reality, of the boundless goodness of life.
Level 2: Highly responsive, excitable, enthusiastic about sensation and experience. Most extroverted type: stimuli bring immediate responses—they find everything invigorating. Lively, vivacious, eager, spontaneous, resilient, cheerful.
Level 3: Easily become accomplished achievers, generalists who do many different things well: multi-talented. Practical, productive, usually prolific, cross-fertilizing areas of interest.
—Average Levels—
Level 4: As restlessness increases, want to have more options and choices available to them. Become adventurous and “worldly wise,” but less focused, constantly seeking new things and experiences: the sophisticate, connoisseur, and consumer. Money, variety, keeping up with the latest trends important.
Level 5: Unable to discriminate what they really need, become hyperactive, unable to say “no” to themselves, throwing self into constant activity. Uninhibited, doing and saying whatever comes to mind: storytelling, flamboyant exaggerations, witty wise-cracking, performing. Fear being bored: in perpetual motion, but do too many things—many ideas but little follow through.
Level 6: Get into conspicuous consumption and all forms of excess. Self-centered, materialistic, and greedy, never feeling that they have enough. Demanding and pushy, yet unsatisfied and jaded. Addictive, hardened, and insensitive.
—Unhealthy Levels—
Level 7: Desperate to quell their anxieties, can be impulsive and infantile: do not know when to stop. Addictions and excess take their toll: debauched, depraved, dissipated escapists, offensive and abusive.
Level 8: In flight from self, acting out impulses rather than dealing with anxiety or frustrations: go out of control, into erratic mood swings, and compulsive actions (manias).
Level 9: Finally, their energy and health is completely spent: become claustrophobic and panic-stricken. Often give up on themselves and life: deep depression and despair, self-destructive overdoses, impulsive suicide. Generally corresponds to the Bipolar disorder and Histrionic personality disorder.
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Unconscious Childhood Messages
We all received many different unconscious messages from our mother and father (as well as from other significant figures) during childhood. Those messages had a profound effect on our growing identity and on how much we were allowed to fully be ourselves. Unless our parents were highly developed, conscious human beings themselves, the expansive brilliance of our soul was forced to shut down to varying degrees.
Although some of us received many of the following messages, one message tends to be central to each type. Which messages particularly affect you?
Type One: “It’s not okay to make mistakes.”
Type Two: “It’s not okay to have your own needs.”
Type Three: “It’s not okay to have your own feelings and identity.”
Type Four: “It’s not okay to be too functional or too happy.”
Type Five: “It’s not okay to be comfortable in the world.”
Type Six: “It’s not okay to trust yourself.”
Type Seven: “It’s not okay to depend on anyone for anything.”
Type Eight: “It’s not okay to be vulnerable or to trust anyone.”
Type Nine: “It’s not okay to assert yourself.”
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A post about sx:
Alright, so in wake of certain things, I thought it would be beneficial to expand on a specific quality of sx: the merging/other worlds/vastly individualized way that sx views people. I hope this helps some sx blinds understand sx and why it isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.
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The IV blind spots as GIFs
Sp Blind:
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“if i get up at 8am tomorrow i can finish everything i need to do by 6pm then i can go out”
me the next day at 1pm:
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This might have been asked before, but does synflow/contraflow affect likelihood of blindspot overfocus?
i have no specific evidence but my gut tells me yes.
slipping into overfocus almost always happens out of frustration, which just happens more often with contraflow than with synflow.
sx/so: sp-shutting themselves off from others when their sx is disappointed by soc’s superficialitysp/sx: blaming soc-society for their own inability to sx while being unwilling to leave their sp-comfort-zone (e.g. incels)so/sp: feeling forced to fake-sx-ing with crushes; ignoring sp-boundaries in favor of high soc-expectations
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Enneatypes’ Idealized Aspect
From “Spiritual Dimensions of Enneagram” by Sandra Maitri
A way to begin pinpointing your type is to identify which of the idealized Aspects is the one you most try to emulate, as well as the one that seems to you to be the answer to your problems. Below is a brief description of each of the Aspects and some of the ways each of the eneatypes tries to embody them. Enneatype One: Brilliancy The state of Brilliancy is one of completeness, wholeness, perfection, and purity. Ones attempt to embody these qualities and to impose them on others and the world around them. Ones have a very clear sense of what they consider right and wrong and believe that if others behaved correctly in accordance with these standards, all would be well. So the dominant quality of Ones is an eye for imperfection, frequently accompanied by criticality and faultfinding, and trying to make things conform to what they consider to be right and good. Like Nines, their focus is outward, but here it is with resentment that things are not perfect and with the agenda of making them so. Ones are firmly identified with their superegos and have difficulty understanding that whatever is happening is right. Chaos and disorder are difficult for Ones to tolerate, so they often are fastidious and tidy both in their personal appearance and in how they keep their various environments. They try to be what they consider good and push out of consciousness what isn’t. Energetically they feel sharp and crisp and often have a pristine and clean quality. Enneatype Two: Merging Gold The state of Merging Gold is one of blissful, ecstatic union. It is a dissolving of the separating boundaries of the personality, resulting in a sense of oneness with another of Being Itself. It is the state of being in love, merging and melting into oneness with one’s beloved. Twos long for this kind of union, believing intimate contact, either physical or emotional, is the thing that they most need. Being loved and connected to that special other is a Two’s deepest desire. Twos emulate the characteristics of Merging Gold by attempting to be someone others will love and consider special. They are sensitive to the emotional states and needs of others and try to be there for them so that they will be loved in return. Twos are acutely attuned to any sense of rejection by others and will go to great lengths to be loved and accepted. While it is difficult for them to ask for attention directly, they become quite demanding and prideful if they feel that they are being ignored or overlooked. Twos often feel to others sticky, clingy, and needy, as well as filled with their own self-importance. Enneatype Three: The Pearl The Pearl, or Personal Essence, is the state of being a person whose consciousness, life, and interactions are informed by Being. It is the state of being truly autonomous, free of all object relations and mental constructs defining who you are, and so it is the state of being a real person - an individuated embodiment of True Nature. Threes want to fulfill their potential and fully realize themselves, but this gets translated by the personality into cultural, material, and sometimes spiritual success rather than into actual unfoldment. They imitate the characteristics of the Personal Essence by believing they are functioning independently, while they are actually being shaped by and conforming to prevailing cultural images. They transform themselves into the image others want to see, and focus on their activities and accomplishments. Their sense of value is determined by how successful their performance is, and so they have difficulty not being active. Getting the job done is the most important thing to them, and so they overexert and subordinate physical needs, feelings, and inner experience in that pursuit. Focusing on their presentation, they deceive themselves and others to fulfill the image they are trying to present. Threes often seem slick and polished, as well as slippery, disingenuous, and sometimes just plain fake. Enneatype Four: The Point The experience of the Point is self-realization - it is the recognition that who you are Essence. The actual experience is sometimes of being a shining star emerging out of the vast blackness of space, luminous and radiant, with a sense of meaning, value, importance, and appreciation for our individual uniqueness. Fours want to be seen as unique, original, and authentic, since they lack this sense of identity with Being. Because of their estrangement from Being, they often feel lonely and disconnected, and long for a sense of relatedness with others. They are acutely sensitive to being abandoned and neglected, and tend to dramatize their emotions and often feel dissatisfied and melancholic. Others seem to Fours to have what they lack, and what they have and who they are never seems quite enough. They seem to suffer more than others, and their longing for authenticity makes them controlling of themselves and of others. Fours may seem sad or depressed, but this is not always the case. Some seem happy enough although somewhat dissatisfied, with an air of vacancy despite the apparent strength of their emotions. Enneatype Five: Diamond Guidance The experience of Diamond Guidance is that of understanding and knowing in a deeply embodied and experiential way. It is the capacity to analyze and synthesize information from the present and the past instantaneously and to grasp something in an all-inclusive manner. Fives feel that what they need is knowledge, and they imitate this intuitive understanding through trying to make sense of life by observing it from a distance. They substitute detachment for objectivity, mental knowledge for active engagement in life, and tend to be loners who spend a lot of time by themselves and resent intrusions by others into their solitude. They live in their own bubble, feeling and maintaining a sense of isolation, which protects them from the impingements and demands that they fear. Dogged by an inner sense of impoverishment and insubstantiality, Fives seem empty, dry, and weak. They often seem withdrawn, pulled into themselves, withholding their vitality and engagement with others and with life in general. They tend to live simply and frugally, rarely wasting energy on resources. Enneatype Six: Will Essential Will is the experience of inner support, which gives us a sense of confidence in our ability to persevere and bounce back when faced with difficulties. Will infuses us with a sense of steadfastness, definiteness, groundedness, solidity, commitment, persistence, and indestructibility. Out of touch with Will, Sixes lack faith in their capacity to defend and protect themselves, so they are frightened, unconsciously feeling always at risk of not surviving. Plagued by self-doubt, uncertainty, indecisiveness, and insecurity, Sixes think that their fear will be resolved if they can find something or someone who will give them confidence and who can dispel their doubt. To resolve their fear, phobic Sixes want a person or a cause they can believe in and become blindly loyal to, and counter-phobic Sixes try to become that for others. Subordinating their will or, conversely, imposing their will on others, becomes the personality’s imitation of real Will. Likewise, being suspicious of authority and either covertly or overtly being defiant of it become a Six’s way of having his own will. Energetically Sixes feel to others frightened and suspicious. Enneatype Seven: The Yellow The Essential Aspect of the Yellow is the experience of joy, delight, appreciation, and simple happiness. It is a warmth in the heart, which might be ebullient and bubbly or calm and deep. Sevens want to feel this gentle happiness rather than their parched and dry inner emptiness. So they look for stimulating ideas and things to get excited about, and their style is one of appearing optimistic, enlivened, enthusiastic, and above all, okay. They try to plot their course toward whatever holds the promise of joy, and so mapping and planning are central to their process. Lacking trust in their natural unfoldment, they try to make their inner process conform to their mental map, which they hope will lead them to the treasure that will finally bring them happiness. Driven by fear of how things will unfold, they always have backup maps and plans. They usually have many different things they are interested in and can get excited about, and lose their motivation when things get repetitive and difficult. Sevens often seem wired and mental, charming and talkative, but sometimes leaving you wondering where the substance is. Enneatype 8: The Red The Essential Aspect of the Red gives us a sense of aliveness, vitality, vibrancy, strength, and capacity. It gives us initiative and forcefulness, boldness and daring. Eights believe that strength is the answer, and so they attempt to control and dominate, to bully and overwhelm to gain a sense of it. They have little tolerance for what they consider weakness or deficiency, and so have difficulty with “soft” feelings, especially pain and fear, both in themselves and others. Imitating the Red, they engage life with gusto and passion, forcefully and aggressively going after what they want. With the need to be in charge and take the lead, they have difficulty not being the boss and going along with someone else’s wishes. They are fighters for what they believe in, and just as the Red is the power to defend what is real, Eights are fierce defenders of what they consider to be the truth. They seem to others large in energy, with a strong and powerful presence even when they aren’t saying a word. Some Eights seem to have a perpetual chip on their shoulders, meeting life with belligerence and bluster. They have difficulty being vulnerable and receptive, tend to stay very much in control and in charge, and often feel energetically hard. Enneatype Nine: Living Daylight Living Daylight is the experience of everything in the universe being made of love. It is the recognition of Being as what sustains and supports all of manifestation, and that our nature is inseparable from It. It gives us the sense of being held by a warm and benevolent presence and connects us with the goodness of life and of ourselves. Nines believe that these qualities are missing and are what they need. So they want to be included, noticed, loved, and appreciated by others, and want to contact the goodness of life and feel that they are included in its bounty. They fade into the background, harmonizing with others and rarely asserting themselves. They avoid conflict and try to keep things pleasant and comfortable both for themselves and others. Their focus is outward, on others and on the events in their lives. They are sensitive and open to the perspectives and points of view of others, and so mediate well. At the same time, they have difficulty determining what they think, feel, and believe. They tend to have a fuzzy, amorphous, or slightly out-of-focus feeling about them.
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how can you tell that someone's contraflow vs synflow? ive been trying to find more information but all i can find are weirdos on forums talking bs
I’m kin with “weirdos on forums talking bs”
Synflow vs contraflow typing for me is usually half vibes, a third of visual typing/observation, and whatever the rest is from conversation. I can’t teach you how to read vibes lol, but I can try to explain the other two. Also disclaimer, I can’t always type between so/sp and sx/so so I can help you with typing in general but you probably need to go to someone with sx that can easily tell the difference since sx-blindness = what is sx and why can I only see soc
The most basic of basic things in synflow vs contraflow typing is whether they have a habit of rubbing people the wrong way. If a lot of people avoid or dislike someone - with a couple exceptions of so/sps or sx/sos bc sock groups are Weird Like That - they are probably contraflow. Conversely, if someone avoids everybody or seems to dislike everyone despite not being disliked themselves, they are probably synflow (unless they are an sp/sx somehow good at not pissing people off or an sx/so all the sx-blinds stalk). I don’t see any so/sx actively avoiding everybody, but if you know they’re sp-blind and they blend in well with their social environment, they’re so/sx.
As you can see, there a some exceptions, but contraflow are grouped together bc their instincts work against each other and drive people away in the process, so contraflow are in my experience easier to spot than synflow. Look for quirks that show evidence of inner conflict or unconscious (or you know, sometimes conscious) unattractive behavior, bc a lot of contraflow people are actually pretty likable yet have these qualities that discourage others from approaching them before they get to see any likability. Lol that sounds so mean
Body language and facial expressions are e v e r y t h i n g, so if you have no Fe or Se, you’re going to have to train your Si a lot. You can find plenty of behavioral descriptions on other blogs, and I would recommend either @istj-hedonist or @mbtiguy for that since their dom Si and dom Se are great resources for fairly accurate observations.
When all else fails in a typing situation, not just for instinctual variants, holding a conversation with someone is best. You can listen to their speaking patterns, learn what and how they value things, their hobbies and experiences, etc. etc. Not only do you end up killing boredom and getting a better idea of their type, you may also end up with a potential friend, so if you’re not feeling shy I do think that talking with people is the best way to type them.
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i have a hypothesis abt contraflow development!!
okay so idk at what point people take on their first instinct but i don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume people are either born with it or it shows within the 1st year of life. and the natural path for every child is synflow so if they are born/show sx their natural evolution would be to have sp as the second instinct. i want to put forth that this is the default. if you let a child develop their second instinct without interference this is how it will develop.
so my hypothesis is that contraflows develop by having the unnatural instinct forced on them by their parents/community/circumstances! if a child is born with/shows sx and their parents force them to pay attention to soc because they believe it’s important the child will develop the contraflow orientation. so contraflows will likely develop when their parents’ or primary caretaker’s first instinct is counter to the natural orientation of the child’s first instinct.
i had this thought bc of @galacticlust thank you!! for explaining your experience it really helped me decide on this bc my experience with sp is similar to yours with soc!!
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Chaotic Good ENFP 2w3 7w8 8w9 @yourvirtualcollectionmiracle
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synflow vs. contraflow 101
so this stems from a thing the brilliant @dasaene said a little while ago which helped me So Much in understanding why some instinctual stacks work and others don’t which is primary motivation (first instinct) vs tool (secondary instinct) 
so to continue from this thought i am going to outlay very very basic understandings (low Te oversimplify but well hopefully lol) of how each instinct acts in the first position and how it acts in the secondary position
soc-first: wishes to be liked by everyone
sx-first: wishes to merge with persons who have sparked them
sp-first: wishes to be secure
soc-second: diffuses
sx-second: intensifies
sp-second: protects
i am making these simplifications because the mechanism behind them is about managing survival. sp cares about their literal security on a self-based level, meanwhile soc and sx rely on others for security. soc relies on large groups of people liking them enough to maintain their survival meanwhile sx relies on individuals caring about them so much that they would keep them alive
so from this it can be stated that sosx as an instinctual stack works because the primary motivation of sosx is to be liked by everyone and their tool intensifies their connections establishing them as deeper and more satisfying
in contrast sosp as an instinctual stack doesn’t work because their primary motivation is to be liked by everyone but the tool they possess is protecting the self which doesn’t help in getting the interest of other people and only isolates them so they abandon the tool which is not performing as it should in assistance and appear to be driven by pure soc
sxsp works because their primary motivation is to merge with persons who have sparked them and their tool is to protect the established relationship. in essence after an sx-bond forms and exists for a long time it gets enforced by an sp-bond. this works because the sx interest gets backed by the sp protection mechanism making it stronger
sxso doesn’t work because its primary motivation is to merge with persons who have spark them but the tool available to them is to diffuse. as sx wants to maintain an intense bond diffusing it is harmful to their motivation so they abandon their tool and appear to be driven by pure sx
spso works because their primary motivation is to be secure and the tool available to them is diffusion of the atmosphere. this stacking works because the self is safe due to the tool enabling them to slip under the radar and gradually build sp-bonds
spsx doesn’t work because the primary motivation of wanting to be secure is not backed by the tool they possess - intensifying the atmosphere. they cannot slip under the radar like spso therefore they discard their tool and appear to be driven by pure sp
for me this was very helpful in understanding why some instinctual stackings are naturally easier to have than others and i hope it helps the rest of you too
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Can you type some HP characters? The most important ones or the ones you'd prefer typing
I actually gave a list to my one friend for their birthday cause I ran out of time and they like this stuff. Here’s an updated version
HarryPotter- ISFP 2w1 7w8 8w9 so/spHermione Granger- ESTJ 1w2 cp6w5 3w4 so/spRon Weasley- ESFP 3w2 7w6 9w8 so/spNeville Longbottom- ISTJ p6w5 2w1 1w2 sp/soAlbus Dumbledore- INFJ 1w9 cp6w7 4w3 so/spSeverus Snape- ISTJ 5w4 4w5 8w9 sx/spMinerva Mcgonagall- ESTJ 1w9 3w4 5w6 sp/soVoldemort- ENTJ 3w4 8w7 cp6w5 sx/spDraco Malfoy- ESFP 3w4 7w6 8w7 so/spFred Weasley- ENTP 7w6 3w4 9w8 sx/soGeorge Weasley- ENFP 7w6 3w4 9w1 sx/soDudley Dursley- ESTP 7w8 8w7 cp6w7 sx/soVernon Dursley- ESTJ cp6w7 8w9 3w2 sp/soPetunia Dursley- ISTJ cp6w5 3w2 1w9 so/spLily Evans- ESFJ 1w2 3w2 7w6 sp/soJames Potter- ESTP 7w8 3w2 1w2 so/sxGinny Weasley- ESTP 7w8 8w9 2w3 so/spMolly Weasley- ESFJ 2w1 cp6w7 8w9 so/spArthur Weasley- INTP 7w6 9w1 4w3 so/spGilderoy Lockhart- ESFP 3w2 9w8 7w8 so/spLucius Malfoy- ENFJ 3w4 8w7 7w6 so/spDobby- ISFP 2w3 p6w7 1w2 so/spRemus Lupin- INFJ 5w6 9w8 2w1 sp/soSirius Black- ESFP 7w8 2w3 8w9 sx/soPeter Pettigrew- ISTP p6w7 2w3 9w8 so/spCornelius Fudge- ESFJ 9w8 7w6 3w2 so/spAlastor Moody- ENTJ cp6w5 8w7 4w5 sx/spBarty Crouch- ESTJ cp6w5 1w9 3w4 sp/soBarty Crouch Jr.- ISTP cp6w7 3w4 8w7 sx/spCedric Diggory- ESFP 7w6 2w3 1w2 so/spFleur Delacour- ESFP 3w2 8w9 7w6 sx/soVictor Krum- ISTP 3w4 5w6 8w9 sp/sxRita Skeeter- ESTJ 3w2 cp6w7 8w7 so/spLuna Lovegood- INTP 4w5 5w6 1w2 sp/sxDolores Umbridge- ESTJ 1w2 3w2 cp6w7 so/spNymphadora Tonks- ENFP 7w6 4w3 8w9 so/sxKingsley Shacklebolt- ESTJ 1w9 3w4 cp6w5 sp/sxCho Chang- ESFJ 2w3 p6w7 1w2 sp/soBellatrix Lestrange- ESFP 8w7 7w8 4w3 sx/spHorace Slughorn- ESTP 3w2 5w6 9w8 so/spFenrir Greyback- ESTP 8w7 7w8 4w3 sx/sp
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Enneagram as Ego Defense Mechanisms (½)
Warning: Long Post(s)
Each of us is unique and endowed with great potential, but we exist in a “waking sleep” because of our early childhood “programming”, so to speak.
In order to know ourselves and evolve in positive ways, we first need to see that we essentially operate in a kind of “waking sleep.” Without conscious effort, we function to a large degree mechanically, according to habitual patterns, as we go about our everyday lives. Our “sleep” is the unexamined belief we all have that we live lives of relatively unlimited freedom, when in fact the opposite is true: we respond in predictable, repetitive ways according to the orders of our early programming, much like uniquely specialized machines. And like machines, we have no conscious understanding of how our existence is limited by our programming. We don’t always understand what we don’t understand and we are limited to the degree that we don’t recognize our limitations.
But how does this habit of falling asleep to ourselves get started? How and why do we come to be this way? Human babies have the longest period of dependency of all mammals, so human children posses inborn, wired-in defense mechanisms that protect them from being overhwhelmed or harmed by psychological or emotional threats.
Over time, early and necessary (sometimes life-saving) defensive maneuvers and coping strategies evolve into patterns of thinking, feeling and behaving. These patterns come to operate like “organizing principles”, or beliefs abot how the world works and how we must act in order to survive or thrive. These patterned coping strategies turn into unconscious and automatic “habits” that influence where your attention goes and what adaptive strategies you employ to interact in the world.
This post will help you be aware of these processes, and in turn lead you on the path to greater self-development.
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The fact that low Ne is absolutely nothing like high Ne makes me have literally no clue what high Ne is supposed to look like. I see nothing of my perception of ne in infps and xntps. Ne is described as being paralyzed by possibilities and thinking in terms of ‘coulds’ than ‘shoulds’ but literally every np I follow seems so be so damn sure of themselves that their perception is the right one. Then there’s me floundering in all the possibilities while simultaneously being distracted by fifty billion other things. All of my ideas of high Ne seems to be a downright lie.
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