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Eunhae analyses - why is Eunhae real - part 5(Donghae’s personality analysis)

Thank you 溫莎虫 again for granting me permission to translate the post

For first-time readers, my words would be in italics, while the words from the original author would be normal. Also, some short forms he=happy ending, be=bad ending in Chinese. These are used as both nouns and adjectives. I also follow as I want to preserve the meaning of the original meaning of the author.

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I analysed the mbti of Hyukjae before, but not for Donghae. I always feel that compared with the contrasts and contradictions of Hyukjae, Donghae is much easier to be seen through.

However, as I started to analyse Donghae systematically, I realised there are still points worth noting. When disclosing the innate character through the familiar scenes, we can realise that the person that loves everyone equally, still loves Hyukjae the most.

Donghae's mbti is ENFJ, passionate and sincere, the educator that shines for everyone like the sun.

This kind of person puts emotions as the first priority. Is good at and relies on socialising. Idealistic. Has a strong sense of cooperation and teamwork. Is sensitive to the conditions of the people surrounding him. Would build a sense of responsibility for himself.

These are all very obvious personality traits. If you understand Donghae more, it is easy to discover these traits in him. This blog entry is not meant to introduce his personality, but just roughly conclude some most flagrant qualities.

Members always say, if not because of Donghae, super junior may not be able to exist till now.

With the competitive atmosphere at that time, anyone could be kicked out of super junior at any time. They were filled with worries. Even though they were companions for each other, they also had competitive relationships with each other. At a time when everyone was highly sensitive due to unforeseen futures, Donghae always put the team as the first priority. Compared with his personal career development, he cares more about team development.

ENFJ is always the one who has the strongest sense to cooperate in a team. He would always remind himself as a part of the team. He would use all he can to ensure to the team is getting together.

Even though Donghae always gives a feeling of a 'free spirit', he is actually a person who can notice the hints given from others' eyes. He is pretty observant and can notice the change in mood of the people around him.

Even though he said he is afraid of cameras and variety shows, his EQ is definitely decent, or even at a level that can master social situations well. He understands completely what kind of people he should date with. The prerequisite of this strength is that he is a very sincere person.

Talking about ENFJ, people like this kind of person are usually due to their sincerity. They are generally very likeable, as they know how to socialise well.

Being good at socialising does not mean being tactful and mature, as probably they are only willing to put effort into dating. Socialising is a vital part of ENFJ's life. They need friends and need to date people. They like the feeling that they can rely on others.

A quality of ENFJ that can be said as a strength or weakness is their altruism.

They are full of emotions, highly empathetic, can sense the emotions of others easily, and love everyone idealistically. They are willing to lower their own sense of existence to help the overall development.

They are the natural 'vice-leaders'. Their beliefs towards the team would make them get close to leadership inadvertently, but their escape towards responsibility and ruling would also lead them to refuse the highest leadership position. This also explains why Donghae is not the leader of the group, is not the eldest of the group, but has very decent power in his words.

Above these qualities can be observed easily, so I am not going to explain them in detail. More importantly, I would like to analyse how special ENFJs are towards the people they love.

ENFJs have a tendency to have hypergamy in their romantic relationships. Their attitude towards a person is usually decided at first sight.

When facing the person they like, this type usually has a crazy crush towards that person just like idolisation. Everything is attractive to them about their crushes. Would not withstand anyone speaking a single point badly for them. Only have their crushes in their eyes.

A point to note is that the first reaction of this kind of person when meeting their real love would be feeling diffident. Due to hypergamy and almost blindly crushing on someone, it is easy for them to worry about 'is it that he doesn't like me?'

As you all know, Donghae somehow just speaks without a filter. During the period Hyukjae refused to commercialise any ships, for the question 'who is the person getting along the least with Eunhyuk', he gave a famous quote 'I wish to be the answer to all his questions.'

From his avoiding eyesight and slightly guilty expression with his head lowered, I think he really suspected that Eunhyuk was not willing to ship with him was due to that Eunhyuk did not like him.

When ENFJs found someone they like, they would gradually treat this person as the centre of the world. Obsessed but also insecure.

In the eyes of ENFJs, even if the world becomes black and white, the people they love are still coloured.

For the people they love, they always encourage and appreciate them unconditionally. If you compare how Donghae treats Hyukjae versus other members, you would find out that he almost never speaks anything bad about Hyukjae. Even for variety show puns, he also cannot speak of anything bad about Hyukjae. It is because, under his special filter, the person he loves is always immaculate.

(except individualistic)

In public situations, the only weakness he spoke of Hyukjae seriously would be 'individualistic', yet interestingly, no one would speak of this friend as selfish.

So I tend to think what Donghae minds is the individualism of Hyukjae himself. When ENFJs love a person, they would give the person everything unconditionally. Compared with what ENFJs give to their partner, if their partner does something a bit egocentric, ENFJs would treat this as not prioritising themselves enough.

As aforementioned, ENFJs are typically generous and likeable. When others don't treat them well enough, they would also comfort themselves 'never mind. They also have their own thoughts.'

(Photo 1)

However, for someone they love, ENFJs would put themselves and their partners together, treating them as a single entity. At this stage, if their partner in any circumstances just thinks of themselves, they cannot tolerate such thoughts.

(Photo 2)

When ENFJs are with someone they love, they always speak of 'we'. He would put the person he loves into every of his plan and arrangement. Everything is only meaningful when 'we' are doing it together.

How they are being nostalgic, would usually be the kind naturally linking incidents and people together, just like it is a 'we' when mentioning Hawaii. If there is a part of their memories that is special, everything about it would carry a special meaning for them.

(Photo 3)

Although the story of Donghae telling Hyukjae all his secrets with Hyukjae being apathetic was told many times, the main characters of the story are always only these two. The problem is that Donghae would tell everyone his story passionately, but he would only be angry when Hyukjae was not giving him responses.

How ENFJs centre with 'devotion', meaning that they would treat everyone sincerely, but such sincerity would not ask for returns in equal value. For them, respecting and tolerating the privacy and freedom of others is also a type of devotion.

However, if talking about someone that ENFJs love, they would be required to give back the same level of sincerity. They would be required to devote everything they have, in order for ENFJs to ensure that their partner also cares as much about themselves.

(Photo 4)

Before in Weibo, I talked about how Donghae can be someone that is very controlling if he doesn't date properly. It is also the most problematic part of ENFJ. They would instil their own thoughts into others, having a strong desire to control the thoughts of others. From serious values to trivial daily life habits, would also use his own ways to control others.

However, in this type, the controlling behaviour can also be subdivided. Some people would like to instil their own thoughts in everyone, including colleagues, and always make others feel suffocated. Donghae is definitely another scenario, only instilling in the people he is close enough with.

Members usually describe him as someone who would easily accept the opinions of others. He would follow the opinions of the majority and would sacrifice for the sake of team development. However, for Hyukjae, he would fearlessly express his own opinions.

The way how they get along right now is the fruit of the long-term adjustment between the two. Donghae definitely did not dare to raise his own opinions towards Hyukjae directly from the start. Hyukjae also would not be able to tolerate how controlling Donghae is for him. It needs a long time for mutual understanding and adjustments.

(Photo 5)

Donghae intentionally went inside to get a chair to sit next to Hyukjae.

Though Donghae always sticks to other people, the extent to which he sticks to others varies. Towards other members, it is more like he loves to hang around them habitually. He habitually needs someone to be with him. However, for Hyukjae, it is more of a spiritual reliance.

(Photo 6)

When meeting something that he is not good at or cannot be completed well, Donghae would naturally find Hyukjae for help. Hence, Hyukjae becomes the spokesperson of Donghae.

Calling Hyukjae at any time to find him, finding Hyukjae even though just handling trivial incidents, these obviously childish and unreasonable requests are just ways for him to justify his importance.

Even ENFJs are passionate and generous in normal social situations, they lack the sense of security in romance. They have very rich emotions, to the extent for anyone not as emotional as themselves, would think they don't love ENFJs enough.

The way how they show their affection is that even if it is something very trivial, they want to create opportunities to be with someone they love. Even others think ENFJs are brave and free, but for someone they love, it is even harder to confess than going to his home 10 times without any reason to have a chance encounter.

(Photo 7)

That's why Donghae would go shopping at Hyukjae's home to take clothes, would get into his home without prior notice, and would create trouble for Hyukjae.

All these unreasonable acts are just ways for him to express his affection and how he misses him. Even though ENFJs don't have any difficulties socialising in most situations, can get people liked so easily. However, it is hard to find real love for someone like this. When real love appears, it would make them forget all their social skills, back to using sincerity and warmth to get close to someone he loves.

All in all, friendships are usually natural and poised, while romantic relationships are usually very meticulous. After so many tests and justifications, all are just worried that the other does not like them.

(Photo 8)

After all the analysis, it is obvious that Eunhae's personalities are so different from each other. One of them is warming, giving his all at once, the other is rational, giving more and more of himself gradually.

Although these differences would require them to have a lot of adjustments for each other, the way they can complement each other is even more precious.

Also, personality is just a part of the innate factors in a relationship. More importantly, maintaining a relationship would also need the effort of the two people. One can understand the rationality and meticulousness of the other, one can tolerate the idealism and emotions of the other. It is because they understand each other enough, so they know those 'unreasonable acts' and 'not suiting your taste' are also ways to express their affection.

If saying love of Hyukjae is a rationalist giving all his impulsiveness and romance to Donghae, the love of Donghae would be an idealist giving all his vulnerability, sensitiveness and seamy side to Hyukjae.

'Just be yourself. I would love you as long as it is you.'

Point to note: as an MBTI enthusiast who understands MBTI to a level that understands cognitive functions very well, I actually discussed with some of my friends for an accurate typing and all we agree he should be ENFP instead of ENFJ. That's why some of the traits above sound pretty ENFP also. If you happen to understand more about MBTI and all those cognitive functions, you can message me to discuss a bit, though I may not always check my messages.

Thank you for waiting for me for so long for another update. I was really busy with school works over the term time and can only update a bit during term breaks. Wish this can help!

And please support super junior's comeback on 15/12! Celebrate! Let's do our best to support them!!

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yuki9095-endgame · 3 years ago

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Haha. HI! :D

Okay, I’ll just assume that everyone that will be mentioned here is a girl. I hope no one will be offended if I address them as a ‘she’ and they happened to be a guy instead. ^^ Also, these are all from my personal taste and judgment, and does not represent the whole fandom. :3

Let’s start from my favorite writers from Asianfanfics (in no particular order):

voodoobaby - Her humor/crack fics are truly a blessing to the EunHae fandom. =)) So if you’re looking for a good laugh, her stories is the answer to that.

PandaOcean - Her story ‘Beyond Innocence’ is the reason why I made an account on AFF (to comment how great that fic is :D). Moreover, she has an intricate way of writing - full of details and just utterly stunning. ♥

ifallelsefails - She’s famous for her ‘Neorago’ series (already on the 4th one). Her clear and austere style of writing is one of the reasons why I truly love her fics.

emii-vipelf - She is a flexible writer since she writes amazingly in various types of genres. The plots she use are also eventful and full of excitement. (She also updates her fics often. Woot!)

RavysWorld - The right person you need to if you’re looking for a well-written angst stories.

calarinda - Smut + Humor + Fluff is her forte. She’s also one of my so-called “Oneshot Goddesses” on my fanfic records.

shwinktinktah - Her story ‘Prince Charming’ and its sequel ‘Finally’ is a must-read fic in the fandom. She’s also excellent in writing smut.

strawberrymyeolchi - Her fic ‘A Study in Contrast’ is one of my all-time favorites. It may not be everyone’s cup of tea but the way she wrote it and her way of putting words together is just remarkably astonishing. She also writes humor and smut fics!

thesaddestlove - Another oneshot goddess. Her fics are mostly general with the right amount of sugary, sweet fluff.

yvontheninja (next-punk in LJ) - I describe her writing style as ‘elegant and poetic.’ Her stories have a vague, dreamy sense to it that she can easily portray to her readers.

mybabyhae - Her fics are so spot on. She’s also an effective writer given that she can keep her readers interested through her stories.

minsonrii (minsonrii on LJ) - Her fics are easily digestible pieces of writing with an interesting plot as well.

Writers from LiveJournal (in no particular order):

coriander-puff - She expresses her ideas powerfully in her fics and writes in logical analogies. (Another oneshot goddess. She also writes for the infinite fandom.)

catskilt - The emotions she put in her stories are written eloquently and vividly that you could almost touch them. She’s also one of those writers who put effort in her titles which I really adore.(PLUS, she’s updating ‘Running Blind With Eyes Wide Open’ lately!!! Another EunHae fanfic gem that you shouldn’t miss.)

numbuh-009 - Fluff, Humor and Romance fic is her specialty. Her stories have the pleasure of giving its audience an easy reading experience.

poisonpickles - ‘poisonpickles’ has already been an established name in this fandom. You’ll definitely never get wrong with her fics! (Read: ‘Nectarine Sunset’)

pseudo-shigure - The way the relationship of her characters evolved in her stories as well as the plot are absolutely rich and compelling. ( Don’t miss the ‘EunHae+WonKyu verses’ and ‘Untouchable’)

saltedboots - If you’re into angsty, would-have-been-but-wasn’t kind of fics then go read her fics. She just recently made her account so let’s all expect more stories from her someday. :D

dbsj0001 - Her rated fics are friend-locked though…

aidenrose

written-notes

ka-kite-ano

parthenope-sing

elastic-4 - which is actually a comm in LJ (that you ought to join if you have an LJ account) where 4 great EunHae writers dwell: tees2mai, drawingintheair, curionenene, xoxo-nat-xx

OTHERS (writers who already left the fandom/have friend-locked fics):

changdictator (LJ) or predictator (AFF)

tewki (LJ) - She’s famous for her ‘SM Boarding School’ fic.

TheNarrator (AFF) - Her fics are in FangirlEunYoo’s care.

apieceofsilver (LJ) or apieceofsilver (AFF)

icytrail (LJ)

(Longer than I expected. Whew…) I limit my fave writers from both AFF and LJ to 12 each (ok, I kinda cheated on the elastic-4 but…). Besides, there are other amazing writers that I’ve been keeping an eye on that I haven’t mentioned/haven’t able to read any of their works yet so there might be a part 2 of this… Or not. ^^

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