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this sucks so bad i need to [remembers suicide jokes only worsen my mental health] trancend, i need to vomit this loser out of me
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lise would have actually been such a good mom to nikolenka. not because all women are inherently natural mothers or whatever, I just think she in particular would have really enjoyed parenthood for all of its joys and its challenges. lise, from what little we see of her, is such an empathetic, relational person, and with her marriage to andrei already disintegrating I think she would get a lot out of having that level of closeness with someone. I think she would have loved watching her son grow and change and surprise her. and most importantly I think she would have stood up for nikolenka against his grandfather, and to a lesser extent against his father and aunt. when we see her, she's very newly into a marriage that's shaping up to be disastrous, she's pregnant for the first time in a world without modern medicine, and she's stranded in the middle of nowhere with people she doesn't know. I think that, given the opportunity to grow through those challenges, she would have been such a valuable alternative perspective for nikolenka to have, on his family and on the world in general
and of course nikolenka never thinks about this. he doesn't think about lise at all, because he never knew her, and the bolkonskys don't care enough to keep her memory alive for him. the greatest tragedy of his life happened when he was barely an hour old. instead he gets marya, who does love him and who tries very hard but who will always know him as one more familial obligation forced on her out of duty. the epilogue tells us that marya (ocd queen that she is) is constantly comparing her love for nikolenka to her love for her own children with nikolai and worrying because she doesn't quite love him in the same way. when of course she would feel differently about him than about her own children that she actively chose to have! and of course nikolenka himself would pick up on that (certainly it's one reason why he has such an antagonistic relationship with nikolai). and of course he would leave home as soon as he could and get involved with something idealistic and dangerous and be exiled as an enemy of the state at age twenty. the absence of lise, more than even the absence of andrei, is the defining tragedy of his entire life
#part of it is also that lise's death dooms nikolenka to be raised entirely within the bolkonsky guilt vortex#by the time any alternative parental figures show up it's already too late#which is a reflection of how marya was raised in the same kind of isolation as a direct result of her own father's political exile#<- prev#i love this blog so much#lise meinen#marya bolkonskaya#nikolenka bolkonsky#war and peace
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I can finally unveil this personal project! My comic version of chapter one of The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins, which I finally managed to get to shortly after SOTR came out. This was a unique project for me that I've been working on, on and off, for the past year or so. Lots and lots of fun, although I did mess up in some parts (typesetting :') ) and the limited color pallette was a unique challenge. Rest of the chapter under the cut! Hope you enjoy :)
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Greek Mythology Sources
Interest in greek mythology rises anew with the new number of retellings and adaptions...and misconceptions all around... Claims like "that never happened" or "that's the roman version" are around a lot...but even if you wanted to learn more, where would you even start looking? Where do you begin your research for your next fic, or next discussion? Well...That's for you! Here's a list of source names, links to access them, maps, family trees & more
Where to access the texts:
ToposText Database, interlinks all names and places, has almost all sources translated, can find all name mentions of place or character in the sources, has a map with the places
Perseus Collection Greek and Roman Materials (and Scaife Viewer) Digital Library, nearly all main greek and roman sources, including OG language text and dictionary for those languages (is instable at times, try coming back a few hours/days later and it should be up again)
Theoi Greek Mythology Database, has summary posts for individual heroes, creatures, gods and events, as well as many translations, has a search function
List of Ancient Sources
Homer's Iliad (8th BC)
Homer's Odyssey (8th BC)
Epic Cycle (and Theban Cycle) fragments (8-6th BC)
Homeric Hymns (7th BC)
Orphic Hymns (2nd BC/2nd AD)
Quintus Smyrnaeus’s Posthomerica (3rd AD)
Tryphiodorus’s Taking of Ilium (3rd AD)
Apollonius Rhodius’ Argonautica (3rd BC)
Nonnus’ Dionysiaca (5th AD)
Hesiod’s Theogony, Works and Days, Catalogue of Women (8th BC)
Statius’s Thebaid, Achilleid (1st AD)
Virgil’s Aeneid (1st BC)
Valerius Flaccus’s Argonautica (1st AD)
Colluthus’s Taking of Helen (6th AD)
Pindar’s Odes (5th BC)
Plays by Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripides (5th BC)
Fragments of lyric poets (8th-6th BC)
Athenaeus’s Deipnoshists (2nd AD)
Lycophron’s Alexandra (3rd BC)
Pausanias’s Description of Greece (2nd AD)
Strabo’s Geography (1st AD)
Scholia on Homer (~ 5th BC - 11th AD)
Scholia on Pindar (2nd AD?)
Scholia on Sophocles, on Euripides (1st BC-15th AD)
Maurus Servius Honoratus’ Commentaries on the Aeneid (5th AD)
Corpus Aristotelicum (4th BC)
Fragments of Hellanicus’s works (5th BC)
Diodorus Siculus’s Bibliotheca Historica (1st AD)
Herodotus’s Histories (5th BC)
Dionysius Halicarnassius’s Roman Antiquities (1st BC)
Plutarch’s Quaestiones Graecae (1st AD)
Eustathius’s commentaries on Homer (12th AD)
Apollodorus’ Bibliotheca, Epitome (2nd AD)
Hyginus’s Fabulae (2nd AD)
Ovid’s Works (1st AD)
Antoninus Liberalis’s Metamorphoses (2nd AD)
Conon’s Narrations (1st AD)
Dictys Cretensis (4th AD)
Dares Phrygius (5th AD)
Malalas’s Chronography (6th AD)
St.Jerome’s Chronicon (4th AD)
Eusebius’s Chronography (5th AD)
Philostratus the Athenian’s Heroicus (3rd AD)
Seneca Plays (1st AD)
Suda (10th AD)
Tzetzes (12th AD)
Duris of Same (4th BC)
Ptolemy Hephaestion (2nd AD)
More Sources:
WordHoard (Software/Java Document for Scholia on Homer, commentary on the Odyssey & Iliad) About This Book – Euripides Scholia: Scholia on Orestes 501–1100 Scholia on Euripides
LacusCurtius • A Gateway to Ancient Rome Roman Sources and History
https://web.archive.org/web/20050625081727/http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/OMACL/Hesiod/iliad.html Little Iliad Fragments
Most of these places have older translations for the epics, poems and hymns (with older language), places like Poetry In Translation and https://www.gutenberg.org often have newer translations available for free, though…with a bit of digging most translations even recent ones can be found online :)
Comparing several translations is also good if you want to make any arguments about what a text says without being able to read the text in the original language, does the text really say that or is it just this translation?
It also doesn't hurt to research a little about the author of a work as well to get context for which time and sociopolitical and personal situation they were writing in (it helps to do a quick search into the history of ancient greece too, i.e. epic writers writing during the 7th century BC had different agendas than playwrights of the 5th century during the persian wars, athenians during the conflicts with sparta, or later hellenistic writers after Alexander the Great)
Wikipedia: CAN be used, it's a good starting point, but check the sources cited as much as you can, rather than believing what the page itself says
Links to Maps
Ancient Greece Maps – Ancient Greece: Φώς & Λέξη
User:MaryroseB54 - Wikimedia Commons
Cyowari - Professional, Digital Artist | DeviantArt
Some of the Realms of Greece in the Heroic Age by Yaulendur on DeviantArt
Late Bronze Age Mediterranean Trade, c. 1400-1200 BCE: Empires, Merchants, and Maritime Routes of the Ancient World - World History Encyclopedia
Translators:
Translate to Ancient Greek Onlinehttps://logeion.uchicago.edu
Wiktionary
Ancient Art
Resources
Harvard Art Museums
Family Tree:
(Compiled by a friend, not exhaustive) - Note that there are often various different versions of lineage for many characters, so this only represents ONE of many possibilities) Family Echo
Books
Oxford classical dictionary.pdf
Brief History Of Ancient Greece.pdf
168679208-Ancient-Greece.pdfComplete Greek Drama
The Ancient Epic Cycle and it's ancient reception A companion.pdf
Final Note
These things should not be gatekept, its time to share them freely I wish I could offer even more sources via academic books and papers but I fear this would exceed my abilities considering the vastness of the topic of Greek Mythology! But this is a starting point :D Have fun!
Google Scholar has a lot of secondary sources (scholia commentary & theories), books about history, society, politics, flora & fauna, religion, culture, etc. of the time both of history and mythical history…if you have a friend in academia with university access (if you don’t have it yourself) you can ask them to check if they have access to the papers/books otherwise hidden behind insane paywalls, because a LOT of them are available as pdfs!
I also wish I had more visual/audio sources but this is smth I cant change :") I'm sure there's some good videos on youtube out there...somewhere x)
Feel free to contact me if you have more sources you want to add or any links don't work Here is the Post as DOCs to share outside of tumblr
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came across a reel about the five worst things that odysseus has done and?? most of the info is wrong?? the person is apparently a classicist yet chooses to spread misinformation?? yeah so uh it filled me with rage because why would you do that?? i get that you don't like him and i agree, he has done some pretty terrible things. but the stuff they chose was either a bit or almost completely wrong
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More Andromache spam bc I can't stop drawing her
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"i asked chatgpt" well i calculated the number of the beast. it is napoleon. six hundred three score and six. and i will kill him one day. he's no great man, none of us are great men, we're caught in the waves of history. nothing matters; everything matters, it's all the same. Oh, if only I could not see it, that dreadful, terrible, it.
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I think everyone who claims that Odysseus didn’t cheat on Penelope in The Odyssey forgets to consider an ancient perspective. Yes, Odysseus sleeps with other women, and not unwillingly. (I hear some people say he was unwilling and although he was on Calypso’s Island unwillingly, he was in her bed of his own volition. He also chose to stay on Circe’s Island for a full year, he could have left at any point. Let's not forget him openly flirting with Nausicaa and taking sex slaves in the Iliad and raping Ismarian women in the Odyssey)
I think people who deny this believe that if Odysseus cheated, he is automatically a disloyal, awful person. But by ancient standards this just isn’t true!! this does not make him a bad person. It doesn’t even make him disloyal! The fact Odysseus fought so hard to return home- he left two goddesses for Penelope!- that is what makes him loyal.
You can’t judge the ancients by modern standards. Not if you want to fully understand the epic and all its themes.
(And just to clarify, I am not talking about epic!ody. Jorge did an amazing job of translating Odysseus’ loyalty into modern standards)
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Nikolai "I'm in not in love with a middle-aged man" Rostov.
My heart fails me and my mouth feels dry [...] Better die a thousand times than risk receiving an unkind look...
You might have a crush on someone but it's not as strong as the one Nikolai has for the Emperor.
Mr. Tolstoy, you fucking knew what you were doing when you wrote this.
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Prince Bolkonski commanding to throw snow on the way to his home, on purpose, because Vasili and Anatole were coming is such a mood 😂😂. Tell me you don't want visits without telling me you don't want visits 🤭.
He's s grumpy and mean but, man, same 🥂.
Of course his son is so... Him. Look at his father.
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ashley loren 54 below solo show concert and i won’t be there... the world can be so cruel and unjust 😔
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war and peace character designs for illustration class
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𝐍𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐥 𝐖𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐧: 𝐀𝐧𝐧𝐚 𝐊𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐚
"And now behold—anticipation and uncertainty and remorse at the abandonment of the old life—all was ending, and the new was beginning."
-Anna Karenina, Leo Tolstoy
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everybody always asks who homer is....but nobody ever asks how homer is #homericquestion #followformoreofmywokesoul
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yeah so i am totally not planning on reading a different translation of anna karenina. mhm yeah no i'm not that obsessed. yeah yeah i'm totally gonna focus on reading something different.
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diversity win! the soldier you seduced, robbed, and shot dead in an alley is sapphic!
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no one will ever do it like her (rose red from ghost quartet)
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