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wait, what colour is bold? /gen
you can't include greysexuality in the "asexual spectrum" and then say only those who don't experience any sexual attraction can call themselves asexual.
you can't include greysexuality in the "asexual spectrum" and then be against the "experiences little to no sexual attraction" definition.
"asexual spectrum" means that everyone who falls on that spectrum can call themself asexual, including those who experience some sexual attraction.
"greysexuals are on the asexual spectrum, they're just not asexual" doesn't make any sense.
that's like including nonbinary people under the transgender umbrella but then saying that only medically transitioned binary people can call themselves transgender.
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a year ago today i started my legal transition!!
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they really just do the "you can self-love your way out of dysphoria" that cis people already do about body dysphoria.
the way some transgender people talk about social dysphoria is absolutely gross.
you know how often i see people say something like "you can just choose not to care if people misgender you"? a fucking lot.
like, congrats, well done, sounds like you don't have social dysphoria. but what you're saying is literally implying that gender dysphoria is a choice, that we can just somehow choose not to have gender dysphoria.
oh sorry, i should be more specific: social dysphoria. because they would never say this about body dysphoria because body dysphoria is seen as the real dysphoria.
if someone were to say "you can just choose not to care if parts of your body feel wrong" they would rightfully get a shitstorm, yet people use this same exact rhetoric about social dysphoria literally all the time.
it's just yet another example of more covert transmedicalism, because you all still see transgenderness as mainly a thing of the body and will make that more than clear every step of the way.
i can't choose not to have social dysphoria. you're just privileged.
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the way some transgender people talk about social dysphoria is absolutely gross.
you know how often i see people say something like "you can just choose not to care if people misgender you"? a fucking lot.
like, congrats, well done, sounds like you don't have social dysphoria. but what you're saying is literally implying that gender dysphoria is a choice, that we can just somehow choose not to have gender dysphoria.
oh sorry, i should be more specific: social dysphoria. because they would never say this about body dysphoria because body dysphoria is seen as the real dysphoria.
if someone were to say "you can just choose not to care if parts of your body feel wrong" they would rightfully get a shitstorm, yet people use this same exact rhetoric about social dysphoria literally all the time.
it's just yet another example of more covert transmedicalism, because you all still see transgenderness as mainly a thing of the body and will make that more than clear every step of the way.
i can't choose not to have social dysphoria. you're just privileged.
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Reminder: "Aroace" is not the umbrella term for aromantics & asexuals.
It only specifically refers to those who are on both spectra simultaneously. The aroace flag also only represents people who are on both spectra simultaneously.
If you mean all aromantics and all asexuals, you need to say something along the lines of "aromantics and asexuals" or "aros & aces". "Aspecs" also exists, though this is not exclusive to aromantics and asexuals, since it also includes everyone who's on at least one atertiary spectrum (aplatonics, afamilials, asensuals, etc)
I'd appreciate reblogs on this so it reaches the people who need to see it, thank you!
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i mean, another term for this is suptiliace / suptilic ace or suptiliaro/ suptilic aro, but they're even less intuitive imo. i read a lot of the AVEN threads where the need for a term for this was discussed (for aces specifically) and out of all the options black stripe was definitely the best one, some terms were way less intuitive, there was weird jokey sounding stuff like "nosexual" or other stuff like "asexual asexual" as if saying it twice somehow conveys any different meaning than saying it once, and sadly a lot of discussions about grey aces not being "allowed" to use the term asexual in the first place, proving the need for a term because the hierarchy runs deep.
grey ace truly is the most intuitive ace term there is because it's so clear in what it describes: the grey area of the asexual spectrum. and people take this further by calling themselves light grey or dark grey aces. black as the absence of colour makes sense in that analogy, which is obviously why it was chosen for the flag. and more obviously "black ace" already means something else. i don't think black stripe ace conveys any less meaning than grey ace, it's just less known. green stripe aro is a bit of a weird one because it doesn't follow the same colour analogy but i'm not a green stripe aro so it's not my place to weigh in on a term.
with that said, most a e/aro terms aren't all that intuitive and obviously convey meaning without having to look it up. you used demi- as an example for a term that conveys as much meaning as grey- and honestly i don't think so. it's just that a lot of people roughly know what it means because of all the discourse surrounding it. i mean "demi" just means "half", which doesn't even begin to describe what demi means, but it just kinda stuck. also it's not like there's a prefix for "attraction only after an emotional connection is formed", lol.
i mean we can come up with even more prefixes borrowed from other languages and we're sadly never gonna get any terms that are as intuitive as grey ace and grey aro. but even they aren't really that understood outside of ace/aro communities.
i sometimes just call myself a no-attraction ace or zero-attraction ace in order to be understood. it's also a mouthful but it gets the point across. also if i mention i'm asexual to someone who doesn't seem "in the know" and asks what it means, i will usually just say that it means not experiencing sexual attraction, not getting into the "little" part because i'm only talking about myself in that situation. the way we talk about ourselves to other aces is usually already so different to how we describe ourselves to allo queers or even nonqueers, regardless of whether the term black stripe ace exists or not.
"little sexual attraction" is part of the asexual definition as much as "no sexual attraction" is. black stripe aces (no attraction aces) are not more ace than grey aces and there is no such thing as "fully asexual". we are all part of the asexual definition.
as a black stripe ace, i wholeheartedly reject terminology like "fully asexual". i do not think that grey aces are less ace than me - they are just on a different part of the spectrum.
i feel the same about aromanticism by the way. phrases like "fully aromantic" for green stripe aros make the acceptance of me as a demiromantic person into the aro community feel very conditional, more like tolerance, if that.
there is a reason we have words like "green stripe aro", "grey ace", "grey aro" or "black stripe ace". they explicitly avoid hierarchy.
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roses are red
violets are blue
singular they is older
than singular you
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