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headmates in a system with different ages is involuntary

Chrono adults getting with minors is grooming, and so is a chrono minor lying to an adult to get a relationship, and also putting themselves in a situation to get groomed by giving the perpetrators plausible deniability

yes obviously some trans people transition in more Sex based rather than social based ways, doesnt disqualify the point i made

Race is a social construct around your skin tone and ancestry you cant just ignore that, plus what does that even mean in context? a transrace person is just gonna act stereotypical?

i was calling transabled delusional, there are people (myself included) who suffer with mental and physical disabilities, if u actually think you can just pretend to be disabled for whatever reason and be apart of a community ur probably actually mentally disabled. and i mean that with such sincerity.

and finally “whats wrong with being a child” Nothing unless ur an adult pretending to be one

What is your opinion on radqueers? (Coming from someone who is personally anti radqueer, just curious)

honestly it depends because not all radqueer TransIDs are bad, theyre kinda just glorified Xenogenders

but Transage, Transrace, Transdisabled (and its variants) are just- odd

like transage- if ur a legal adult “transage” into minor youre a bit creepy. you can be an age regressor theres no issue with that.

and if ur a minor “trans adult” youre BEGGING to be groomed omg. “but she said she was 22!!!!!” like omg-

transrace is- no. u cant change ur race, and why would u want to? its either internalized racism or wanting to be oppressed without the real struggle

and TRANSDISABLED?????? HELLO???? honestly if u think ur transdisabled in anyway DW BESTIE!!!! i think youre “cis disabled” or wtv- cuz holy shit dawg.

with that being said, i do have a blog where i pretend to be TRANSDID for the fun of it

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age regression isn’t saying “yea im technically 25 but i identify at 15” and no if a 14 yr old identifies as a 20 yr old and gets groomed, they asked for it. theyre the one lying about their age

transgender isn’t about changing sex, its changing gender, two different things so transrace is nowhere near close to transgender

and how is it ableist to say transdisabled ppl are disabled isnt that ehat yall wanted? if anything im affirming it with my statement

yes ppl can have different experiences, but these are legit children or chronically online mentally ill adults who have the maturity of a child

What is your opinion on radqueers? (Coming from someone who is personally anti radqueer, just curious)

honestly it depends because not all radqueer TransIDs are bad, theyre kinda just glorified Xenogenders

but Transage, Transrace, Transdisabled (and its variants) are just- odd

like transage- if ur a legal adult “transage” into minor youre a bit creepy. you can be an age regressor theres no issue with that.

and if ur a minor “trans adult” youre BEGGING to be groomed omg. “but she said she was 22!!!!!” like omg-

transrace is- no. u cant change ur race, and why would u want to? its either internalized racism or wanting to be oppressed without the real struggle

and TRANSDISABLED?????? HELLO???? honestly if u think ur transdisabled in anyway DW BESTIE!!!! i think youre “cis disabled” or wtv- cuz holy shit dawg.

with that being said, i do have a blog where i pretend to be TRANSDID for the fun of it

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What is your opinion on radqueers? (Coming from someone who is personally anti radqueer, just curious)

honestly it depends because not all radqueer TransIDs are bad, theyre kinda just glorified Xenogenders

but Transage, Transrace, Transdisabled (and its variants) are just- odd

like transage- if ur a legal adult “transage” into minor youre a bit creepy. you can be an age regressor theres no issue with that.

and if ur a minor “trans adult” youre BEGGING to be groomed omg. “but she said she was 22!!!!!” like omg-

transrace is- no. u cant change ur race, and why would u want to? its either internalized racism or wanting to be oppressed without the real struggle

and TRANSDISABLED?????? HELLO???? honestly if u think ur transdisabled in anyway DW BESTIE!!!! i think youre “cis disabled” or wtv- cuz holy shit dawg.

with that being said, i do have a blog where i pretend to be TRANSDID for the fun of it

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hi hi, I wanted to ask about what your opinion is about games like No Mercy. (it’s not a ship ik, but I’m asking specifically in relation to the “engaging in media that depicts [some dark subject] doesn’t mean that the person wishes to engage in [said dark subject]” sentiment. I also lean more proship, because of the anti-censorship DLDR aspect of it, but No Mercy in particular irks me because it seems like the target audience for that game are people who do genuinely want to live that sort of fantasy out. Just curious about your thoughts :)

Ive never heard of that game till now but i did read into it a little bit, i will conduct more research when its not 3am and i will come back with more opinions

however, going off of what i know

If someone finds themselves having that fetish (for lack of a better term), i believe its better to have a fictional outlet rather than acting it out in real life- yet i do find it disgusting. personally tho id sound a bit hypocritical because i often explore topics of SA and incest in my media- i know myself well enough to know that if someone even thinks for a second to do these IRL, id shoot em between the eyes.

sometimes media blurs the line between fiction and reality and people need help to differentiate the two

like video games don’t cause violence and women dont look like pornstars

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I think a lot of antishippers are so strict bcz they’re really deep in purity culture. But they’re hypocrites because a lot of them will openly consume proship or morally reprehensible content if it’s widely accepted by others or disguised as palatable (for example, I see burlesque dancers cosplaying Disney princesses- which can be interpreted as aged up sexualization of minor characters, but there’s never nearly as much discourse around that as there is for other forms of the same thing)

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When you say you lean proship, what are your reservations to fully embracing that title?

The negative stigma around it. Im fully aware that proship is harmless but i grew up online in the antiship community. I was proship before I knew what the term was and anti-shippers harassed me when I was young and groomed me into being antiship, I was ashamed of the taboo content that I consumed in private for years and im only now breaking from it, and its difficult to embrace it fully when the conditioning is still there.

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My First order of discourse discussion is:

Proship VS Antiship

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What is Proship?

Proshipping is a stance, not a ship archetype, that means you are Anti-Censorship when it comes to primarily Fanmade Fictional media. Proshippers are big fans of the DLDR and DEAD DOVE tags on fiction sites, They don’t care what others ship, even if that ship is problematic in nature. There are subcategories under Proship that are ship archetypes (Comships, Darkships ect)

What is Antiship?

Antiship is the antithesis to Proship as one may guess, These people believe that problematic ships in media shouldn’t be explored in a romanticized manner. Even in fanmade content. They do care what other ship, especially when they perceive a ship as problematic or “illegal”

Whats the issue?

The primary issue in this debate is that anti-shippers don’t know what proshipping is. A lot of anti-shippers believe that proship stands for “problematic shipping” or that All proshippers engage with Dark media, They also believe that engaging with such media is a gateway to real crimes committed.

This isnt true.

On the other hand, there ARE alot of proshippers who taint the community by using it as an excuse to commit real crimes, most notably Pedophilia.

My take?

I lean more Proship than Anti. Obviously i have boundaries regarding what content i like and dont. If you don’t like the content, don’t engage with it. block the tags, block the creators, if you use your free will, you don’t have to see it. Educate yourself on the real meaning and message of the community. If you still think it’s weird afterwards don’t interact with anybody from it. It’s a very simple solution to end this discourse, and from my perspective, it mostly lands on anti-shippers taking accountability for threatening lives.

no fictional ship can be illegal, it’s not illegal to make dark media, the topics discussed in the media can be illegal when applied to real life, but that doesn’t make the media itself bad, or even indulgent on the ideas. to add- don’t report dark fictional media to authorities, it wastes their time and resources looking into real cases of CSEM/CSAM material. If you see anyone asking for- or holding that content, report immediately.

also a note for some proshippers- specifically the icky girl/daughter and l0l11c0n side of that community, stop posting pics of urselves, youre minors and ik you think your self objectification is hot or sexy or whatever but this is dangerous and damaging behavior. you are not fictional, you are a real person who deserves to be safe, pls keep urself safe from abuse.

Even the most problematic ship is fictional, these people are not. If you have substantial evidence that this person is committing an act of pedophilia, go right ahead I don’t care. I hate pedophiles as much as the next. But you need to learn what proshipping is and you need to learn what pedophilia is, so you can adequately understand what’s actually going on instead of making assumptions. you don’t have to agree, just be mindful.

Im Open to Discussion, If i missed any points or you need clarification on certain things, go ahead and ask me.

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Ask Box is now open.

Rules for the asks:

No Hate speech or Harrassment, especially if someone is responding Non-Anon, dont go on witch hunts.

Images are allowed, if u attempt to send anything NSFW or NSFL to me bc of my takes i will report you.

keep discussion clean and respectful i dont tolerance petty insults

i will know if youre a troll and i will engage with you as seriously as any other user

Reminder that this blog is for my amusement dont take everything so seriously, I think end of the day these are all petty online discussions with no bearings on the real world.

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Hello everyone I am the Discourse Collector, Giving my unpopular opinions on discourse online.

I encourage all nonviolent engagement and my overall opinion on most of the topics i will discuss is that “If its not hurting anyone, its fine”

I will engage and start discussions seriously, but with that being said i am a ragebaiter. I carry my opinions wholeheartedly and do believe them, but i tend to form my opinions based on what makes the most people upset- because its funny.