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Okay, really complicated question bc it honestly depends

I was actually gonna make a vid on TikTok about it but this will be like a half-assed version bc I’m not done with research yet.

I’ve only read one appearance of Rudy and Mary in the og “The Flash” where Wally graduates high school/ comes clean about being Kid Flash and they barely interact so there’s no hint of what the relationship is like. From what I know it’s very vague in other issues too so leaves room for interpretation (but I could be wrong bc I haven’t read this)

In Teen Titans as you know Wally writes them a heartfelt letter, that hints at them not being the closest but still loving each other.

Everything changes with Messner-Loebs Flash, the first to really create a dynamic. Now if you’re reading YJ fanfic you’ll probably see a lot of Rudy is an abusive drunk schtick, it occurs so often it’s official fanon. In Wally’s Run of the Flash, Rudy is a gigantic asshole, but a very scammy calculated and sometimes charming narcissist way, not bumbling drunk way. Wally still cares for his parents and loans them thousands after winning the lottery, but Rudy blows it all within weeks and comes back to pressure Wally for more, showing a very toxic power dynamic where Rudy uses Wally’s relationship with him against him.

Then Rudy turns out to be a spy for the Manhunters all along as each spy was assigned a different hero to become close too, but since Rudy wasn’t all that close with Wally he was asked to kill him to get him out of the way. Oh and he told Wally his mom was dead bc he faked an accident that was supposed to kill her but it didn’t. Rudy escapes but Mary lives and stays with Wally.

Mary’s another story. She’s self absorbed, temper-mental, Wally’s biggest critic while being nice to him when she feels like it. She’s just like Monica and Ross’ mom in Friends, and Wally is Monica. And Wally’s friend Chunk is Ross. The Beautiful thing about messner-loebs Flash is that he was all about character development and redemption, and Mary grew to be a better person but Wally still couldn’t forgive her, and as they slowly got better and easier around each other, their history and personalities came to confront how she treated him growing up, and Wally straight up let her know he couldn’t forgive her. From there she’s tossed out of the storyline but I haven’t gotten very far in Mark Waids stuff, but his first story arc centers around his two father figures: Barry and Rudy

It’s Wally’s first year as kid Flash and Mark has Rudy as an even worse dad. Instead of an emotionally manipulative power dynamic Rudy is downright scum, and as Wally puts it, “the kind of people who never should have been parents”. It supplies that Rudy is emotionally distant and that the two go head to head in almost abusive fights, though as to whether or not Rudy does get abusive you have to factor in where Wally comes from there was abuse and there was spankings, and almost everyone from the south (including myself) got improvised spankings. I’m going to guess that Wally got spanked growing up, even if he never struck him anywhere else or with anything else.

The ending is really weird moment where Wally hates his dad and wants more than anything to get away from him but when his dad almost dies Wally saves him and profoundly forges a better relationship, not a good one, but better relationship where he actually tries for his dad. Mary is hardly mentioned.

As for Wally’s stepdad, the feelings are pretty neutral.

As far as I know, Wally’s parents are rewritten to be like a pseudo ma and pa Kent, as Worlds Finest: Teen Titans is currently canon past. They’re written as saints, who go “oh poor Roy, Ollie doesn’t pay enough attention to him, we wish we could give him the love he needs” I got severe whiplash reading that after reading The Flash vol 2. But then again, they’re drawn just like Wally’s parents in The Flash vol 1. So maybe that’s who they represent, I’ll know when I read it. And also Wally isn’t an Asshole in WF Teen Titans, and is weirdly the emotionally sensitive and soft spoken kid, and for some reason the youngest. Wally is a much better character when he’s an asshole.

I highly, highly suggest reading the Flash Vol 2. It’s not only the longest running canon for Wally’s parents, but the way Messner-Loeb does character development and character dynamics is literally unmatched by anything else you’ll read in DC. His plots are pretty good too. He doesn’t put Rudy and Mary into boxes, they’re so deeply fleshed out and go through many things. Rudy occasionally makes a come back then gets presumed dead again, honestly the best scene to sum up some of this iswhen Wally joins a cult and is tricked by Rudy (who’s a ringmaster in the timeshare/cult) into thinking his ghost has been conjured up for Wally to speak to (Wally doesn’t know he’s alive) and one of the first things Wally says is “can I talk to Barry?!” After seeing his dead dad. Peak dialogue for Messner-Loeb too.

Need to talk about Wally West

Okay I have a few questions because I’m extremely confused. So first things first, what I know from Wally comes from 1- the Young Justice cartoon (loved that show but omf was not Young justice), 2- the new teen titans and I’ve barely finished that and 3- the absolute flash which is a new universe so it doesn’t really count.

So my question is:

Are Wally’s parents shitty?? Because I thought he had a good family life, which is what made the absolute flash Wally different from the main universe Wally, but I’ve seen some people saying that they were shit but also saying that they were okay??

Were they bad?? And then if they were what makes is like absolute flash’s main difference from main universe?? Like how Batman is not a billionaire and how Superman grew up in Krypton.

Please let me know guys, I’m really curious about it

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Did not open the Nightwing tag today to see some creep literally claiming Dick got raped because he didn’t love Kory enough, and him getting raped means his ship wasn’t good enough

Glad to know where you stand on mistaken identity SA.

ohh yes, Nightwing x Starfire such a wonderful ship! Nightwing never realized, that Mirage replaced Starfire and slept with her. Let see how long it takes their archenemy to see that this person is not Starfire…. exactly five second! Yeah… Starfire and Nightwing truly meant to be! Ship of the century.

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I got so scared for a second when I saw my username scrolling past I thought I was being doxxed 😭😭😭

BUT HEY THATS ME ✨

Glad you’re having fun! It’s always nice to find HalBarry fans

(re: don’t sweat it comic) i never expected tiktok to be so overwhelmingly nice and fun, i’m having such a good time

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I can’t believe I found these issues and have them now!

Roy & Dick in Action Comics #613-618

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It’s a vision not many will understand 😔

"canonize bisexual nightwing" "make bi dick canon"

NO

let him kiss boys and still have him canonly straight

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First year where theres no Nightwing pride cover 😔😔😔😔

Last year maybe shouldn’t have counted tho, they just drew an really tiny sticker on a cup and called it a day, and I hated the lineart for it anyway so I didn’t buy it not knowing it was his last Pride variant…….

We should just make our own guys 😤

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Can you imagine regular citizens finding their uniforms on the street and instead of thinking they quit they think they had an orgy?

"Damn again? Oh wow it was a big one this time"

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I realized I’ve only ever shown you my horrible art bc all my good stuff is unfinished so here is actual okay stuff guys ✨

(As always click for better quality)

I am very okay and not sad about Creature Commandos

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He’s just lower I guess! I’m pretty sure this is a Crisis On Infinite Earths lineup, as almost all of these ppl were heavily involved in that storyline. Kory was there only briefly tho so maybe it’s kind of like a representation of the new earth?? I dunno

Starfire and the New Teen Titans by Scott Koblish

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I FORGOT TO SUBMIT MY APPLICATION AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AND I JUST LOOKED ITS DuE TODAY

OKAY OKAY I GOTTA GET TO IT

Birdflash Zine Contributor Applications

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You MUST have a discord account that is provided with your application. If you don't have one you will not be able to be a contributor. If you have other social media you would like to share please share that as well we will reach out to you via DMs if you get the position.

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@dc-event-calendar could you please boost?

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Okay so I need to post this somewhere where ppl have decades of Fandom experience and aren’t new to shipping discourse, but recently on TikTok I’ve seen about five different posts alluding to a popular ship on invincible that was inc*st and how disgusting that was. I agreed that’s gross but I just couldn’t find out what ship they were talking about……

Y’all….. they were talking Mark x Mark…. Being shipped with himself…

My question to you seasoned fandom guys is has this ever been shipping discourse before? I’ve had Tumblr for 7 years but have never ran discourse about it, and I’ve seen discourse about the craziest things.

Like someone going back in time to a younger but appropriately aged version of themself (canon in Rick and Morty), getting with yourself from an alternate universe (seen lots of that from DC fans), or getting with a perfect (100 percent DNA match) clone of yourself, (haven’t seen this anywhere).

Has anyone seen controversy rise over this before?

I’m not a pro-shipper so I was surprised ppl are claiming this is pro-shipping, and even comparing it to the Anissa stuff…….

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Birdflash Zine Contributor Applications

Open until May 17th 2025

Here is the link for the contributor and moderator applications! Please feel free to apply to as many roles as you would like, just be aware that you might only get some of those roles!

Rules for Contributors:

You MUST have a discord account that is provided with your application. If you don't have one you will not be able to be a contributor. If you have other social media you would like to share please share that as well we will reach out to you via DMs if you get the position.

You must be over 16 for SFW and over 18 for NSFW contributions. By submitting this form you assert that you are at least 16 years old.

Guidelines for the application:

If you are applying as a writer, please submit at least 2 stories/excerpts from stories that are 200-500 words long. These do not need to be birdflash, but DC is preferred. If you apply for a writer of the NSFW portion please submit the same in NSFW writing.

If you are applying as an artist please submit 2 full colour pieces that you've done. If you are planning on, or wanting to make a comic, please have at least ONE of those pieces be a comic in it. If you are applying as an NSFW artist they should include NSFW art. Pieces with two characters are preferred but not required.

If you are applying as a merch creator please submit either two merch designs, two images of fully completed pieces of merch, or both.

If you are applying to be a beta/editor for the zine please provide two works or work excerpts of 200-500 words that contain the before you betaed version and the after you betaed version.

If you are applying to be a cover artist then please submit either a cover design you did or an image of something with your cover design on it.

Note: no one in this zine will be getting paid except for a free copy of the finished work. All proceeds will go to a charity that will be picked by the contributors and moderators after the contributors have been decided.

@dc-event-calendar could you please boost?

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that panel haunts my nightmares

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Sorry for not posting for 20 days, haha a friend made me realize this yesterday!! This week i'm full with the pending commissions u//u but i hope i can be back soon... meanwhile A LITTLE DISCOWING PRACTICE

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YAY

Birdflash Zine Is Happening!

We're going to but posting the application for moderators and/or contributors soon! You'll need examples of your work for your applications, they don't have to be birdflash but they should be some of your best work/something you're most proud of! Keep in mind that the creation period is going to be seven months to give everyone enough time to get stuff done, so if you want to contribute but are unsure about the time, think about if you can get 1k words or a full artwork down in seven months!

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https://archiveofourown.org/works/64451404/chapters/165491887

Dick/Wally/Linda fic for @birdflashweek day 7!

Linda, in trying to write her own Stepback novel, is hit with serious writers block when she’s frustrated, lonely, and missing her husband Wally.

Picking up her favorite Stepback novel, Wings Of The Night, Linda was only looking for inspiration when she woke up inside the book face to face with her first fictional love….. an irrationally hot, masculine, sensitive, mysterious, flexible and unrealistic Stepback heartthrob.

But don’t worry! Wally West won’t let him steal her heart, but in trying to win her back he ends up winning someone else’s heart…… and well, he’s not complaining!