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synergy

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"Kkzzzris, Luv, I'm feelin' a lil worse for were right now"

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Recently finished chapter 4 and unfiltered deltarune to see what everyone else is saying and dessknight is tripping me up a little – my brother and I both thought it being Carol was fairly obvious, but neither of us are skilled enough gamers to reach any of the secret bosses (could NOT score above a B in the c3 minigames because we just kept getting hit lol) so I'm open to my mind being changed. What's the evidence?

Flowey parallels (compare the girl in the code's messages to Flowey describing when he first woke up after death)! When she summons her sword it looks like a baseball bat for a few seconds! When it runs it looks like a ball! The Shadow Mantle protects again dark/STAR attacks! The poem in the book in the library that leads to the chapter 4 egg room talks about a "fallen STAR crying rivers that produce glass"! shadow crystals are glass! you get a shadow crystal by beating the knight and chipping a piece of its blade off! kris and the knight mirror each other in a lot of poses and postures and seem to be in cahoots! we know kris thought dess was really fucking cool when they were a kid! also carol was at the manor after kicking kris and susie out, when kris and susie enter the church dark world the knight is already there waiting for them!

does that convince you?

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toriel gets white girl wasted once and people start acting like this is equivalent to her beating kris' ass 'dark world' blue every night. is a girlie not allowed to catch a vibe with a dtf short king any more? what has happened to us.

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hm, thinking about how one would handle a chapter-rewritten style thing for chapters 3 + 4... how do you even manage that??

(deltarune chapters 3 + 4 spoilers)

Cross Tenna with a fucking TITAN? how's that even work??? and what about the secret bosses? do you swap Eram with Gerson or Knight with Gerson? I guess a gerson Knight is basically Oberon Smog so that could work out, but then what do you even do with Eram?? maybe MAYBE swap Eram with Friend?? this makes my head hurt. I STILL DONT KNOW WHO YOU SWAP TENNA WITH

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The shadow Cristal Gang

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i disagree with you about mike. the character that spouts non-sequiters did that, toby didn't have any plans for an actual character, he decided to shout the fans out by incorporating some designs he liked while lightheartedly poking at how ravenous the fanbase is for clues about everything. which like. we are

no sure he had so few plans for an actual character that he referenced him in the sweepstakes with invisible text you had to highlight as the only person spamton didn't want bloody revenge on, come the fuck on.

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I'd seen lots of people describe Night in the Woods as being heavily rooted in the experience of growing up in a dying small town in the American Rust Belt, but somehow nobody told my West Virginian ass that it's so Appalachian that I probably live closer to where Mae's house would be than to the nearest IKEA.

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You aren't quite sure what you're looking at.

inspired by @/euclicide

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getting ominous messages from this guy anybody know what's up

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Shout-out to the 0.5 seconds where Ralsei makes direct eye contact with you as if to ask "are you possessing Susie too??"

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noelle what happens to them

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I don't know if this is well known yet but if you stall for about 23 turns in the Tenna fight then there's special dialogue.

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the mane axe is a hairbrush. the auto axe is a toothbrush. so is the toxic axe.

during the events of chapter 4, gerson drags susie out of her slump, he encourages her storytelling as a fellow author and teaches her how to practice her craft. because he saw a story burn in her eyes, brighter and blacker than everything around them.

so gerson gave her the justice axe.

he gave her a paintbrush.

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it was worth a try

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it was worth a try

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I've been puzzling over this Tenna dialogue ever since chapter 3 first released, and today, I think it finally clicked for me what he's likely talking about — and whose perspective he's echoing. And it all comes from a little bit of dialogue that players would have missed if they weren't ready to do the same thing at least nine times in a row way back at the start of chapter 1.

Kris is known for being a prankster. We know they did things like hide under Noelle's bed after she expressed fear of monsters hiding under there, and shaking the Ferris wheel car they were in once they reached the top. But we also know that they did this one very damaging, very expensive thing: they put bath bombs in the toilet.

Now, if you've ever owned a residence (or rented a residence where you somehow ended up in charge of the plumbing), then you'll know that plumbing repairs are not cheap. In fact, depending on what's wrong, it can be cripplingly expensive. And trying to flush bath bombs would absolutely causing plumbing issues. It wouldn't show immediately; bath bombs dissolve in water, after all. But a lot of them also contain soap and other chemicals which can clog the pipes. And depending on how bad the clog is, it could be a very expensive repair. (Something that Toriel alludes to if you flush the toilet three more times, telling Kris that, "If anything bad happens, you are paying for the plumbing bill.")

So, in the past, Kris flushed a bath bomb. But here's the thing: Kris is not a malicious person. Whatever their reasons for aligning with Carol and the Knight may be, we have enough evidence to show that Kris does care for others, and that they never pulled pranks that were outright malicious in nature. (The Ferris wheel was in no danger of falling; they never actually hurt Noelle of their own free will.) So more than likely, Kris — being a child — thought that bath bombs in the toilet would just make the toilet look cool, and surprise the rest of the family, but that nothing seriously bad would happen.

But something bad did happen. They had to call a plumber because the only toilet in the house stopped working, and it was expensive, and Toriel and Asgore got into a fight over it. Maybe Asgore thought the whole thing was funny while Toriel wanted to take it seriously and ground Kris; or maybe this was after Asgore was dismissed from the force and had been just giving away flowers at his flower shop, so they didn't have the money to pay for the plumbing bill, and so they fought over that (because Toriel was frustrated with him just giving flowers away).

Honestly, there are numerous fights that could spawn from something like this. And while Toriel and Asgore having it out was not Kris' fault, to Kris — a kid — it would probably feel that way, because they were the one who put the bath bomb in the toilet, i.e., into the pipes, thinking it would be fine, that it would go somewhere else, not that it would get stuck there.

But it did get stuck there. And then Asgore and Toriel started fighting again. And Kris sat in front of the TV, either watching a show or playing a game, trying to block it out.

But Tenna saw everything, and relates it right back to them.