#(<- joking)

[countlessofvoids]

I know I'm five years late on this and frankly this conversation is really fucking annoying at this point, but I gained analytical skills just recently, got hyperfixated on HTTYD again and have few things on my mind;

There's a ridiculous amount of bad writing decisions regarding the third movie's main antagonist and even more in the entirety of the film. However in my opinion, Grimmel's character could improve even if you kept all other aspects the same by getting rid of one plot point. And that is "drugging deathgrippers with their own venom".

One the dumbest parts of THW, only beaten by Toothless & light fury's boring romance and the movie's message. But the difference between those is those at least serve some purpose. This could go unmentioned and much wouldn't change. Sure, it shows us Grimmel uses their venom for his crossbow arrows, other than that, the "slavery" aspect is useless. All it does is make him ridiculously evil. Because the audience forgot he's not nice, apparently.

What I'm getting at is - I believe a better alternative would be the deathgrippers serving Grimmel not because they're forced to, but because they want to. Make them have genuine bond like Hiccup has with Toothless.

In universe justification: Deathgrippers are said to be intelligent dragons, so they'd probably understand that working with some creature who helps them hunt is beneficial for them. And since they're pack animals, hunting also works as a bonding activity. This would be a perfect gateway for Grimmel to make them more loyal to him. They don't necessarily need to have Hiccup & Toothless' bond (although I would personaly prefer it that way). Think of it like the speedstinger in RTTE - Despite not liking Snotlout at all, it defended him against the other speedstingers because it considered him a part of it's pack.

Writing/narrative justification: Having a group of dragons take part in killing simply for their enjoyment portrays them as intelligent creatures, which emphasizes how similiar dragons are to humans. Some are assholes just because! Also it means them dying at the end isn't a horrible way of making your audience question your protagonist's morals, since in this version they kinda deserved it.

Grimmel being friends with a bunch of dragons while hating all the others gives him depth as a character - it makes him a hypocrite.

But most importantly, Hiccup and Grimmel being parallels would be much clearer. It shows how they're the same person on different paths, that he could be like Hiccup but choose not to. Or it could lead to him being a parallel to Valka. Older person who doesn't like other people and prefers living with dragons? Sounds like Valka to me!

Now this could create a plot hole with the whole Alpha thing, since in canon they don't listen due to being drugged. However I choose to ignore that because I don't like the idea of every dragon mindlessly following Toothless no matter what personality and concept of the alpha in itself.

[charmac]

This is my favourite block of dialogue of all time

[clumsypuppy]

omg trick or treat

TRICK. YOUVE BEEN SENTENCED TO EVIL BOOP

[praypanic]

@bellalu65 responding to this in post form cos it’s a lot but it’s mostly from articles and gossip that came out around the time they got together and my own speculation.

BASICALLY debbie was working as an assistant to beady eye/liam’s personal assistant during 2012-2014 under his management label. (i think liam has later disputed that she was his PA but everything i’ve read from that time refers to her as such.)

they got really close during this time and i suspect started an affair. they were seen hanging out alone around early 2013 before his affair baby scandal broke and wayyy before he was divorced. (x) i’ve seen beady eye interviews where liam is talking to someone off screen and it’s always debbie and he still does it to this day lmao (hashtag separation anxiety)

she was fired from the management company around then too because she and liam were getting too close and it was unprofessional (x) (bdi later left that management and debbie became their manager)

they were literally together in ibiza THE DAY his affair baby scandal dropped. this is like july 2013. after she’s been fired she’s literally just there for personal reasons (x). liam tells nicole about the baby thing ON THE PHONE and just. doesn’t see her again. starts the divorce process. liam and debbie are MOVED IN TOGETHER BY SEPTEMBER (x) (they’re evil) i read somewhere that debbie broke up with her own boyfriend and sold the house they had together to be with liam (THEY'RE EVIL. i’m obsessed.)

this says that nicole and liam are not reconcilating. i suspect that he doesn’t like confronting his mistakes and would rather run away from them. but also be so fucking for real i personally think that he had been dating debbie for months at that point and realized he wanted to be with her proper.

[saffronscales]

credits to @fintan-pyren who drew the original image (i redrew it (for funsies))

[blanksum]

Actively losing my mind over this week’s episode 😭 because what do you MEAN we get enemies who accidentally kiss during a public argument who then become forced roommates who then bond over YAOI and then one of them has a sex dream about the other right after they talk about the Omegaverse!! WHAT YEAR IS IT 🫨

[charafansmile]

It annoys me when I see someone comment on a post that they "only ship canon ships" and bring up alphyne and asgoriel.. I have to stop myself from getting in pointless arguments about how asgoriel is not canon. Not in the current timeline of undertale and certainly not in deltarune. DOA ass ship. You don't even learn they were together until it's obvious toriel divorced him!!!! Nobody has played a version of the game where they are currently married!!!! You would think with the way people talk about asgoriel that she forgave him and they got back together!! But! no!! Their ship sailed and sunk before the title even appears!!!! and unlike alphyne their isint any ending where they do!!!! Asgoriel is about as canon as soriel and papyton are!!!!! You are longing for a past you never experienced!!!!! Stop it!!!!!

[anistarrae]

hi hiii just wanted to say that i really love your art and you are so incredibly skilled at animation !! youre the same age as me and i admire how you animate things; characters are just so filled with personality, their movements are so natural and fluid, OMG YOUR COLORS ARE JUST PURE EYE CANDY !! you're a big inspo for me, tysm !!!! <3 <3

WHATTT THANK YOU!?? i really appreciate that coming from you ive looked through your artwork some time ago and it’s so stunning :’) i really like it

i drew your morpho gijinka it’s the design ever

[crazysodomite]

give levap a taur tf potion maybe he'll feel better and chill out for a second

he HATES tf... hes also supposed to hate taurs but the mere idea of that is literally unbearable to me so he doesnt

[fruitbasket-gossip]

🎉 IT’S MY BIRTHDAY BITCHES!!! 🎉

[fictionkinfessions]

extremely funny current life memory: back when the comic was still coming out, i tried to hide being a davekat shipper, cause my friends thought it was a “bad ship.” (cringey, unrealistic, toxic, “they don’t even like each other, everyone who ships them is a fujoshi.”) when they found out, they all teased me for it, and acted like i was stupid. and they didn’t know i was kin, so i couldn’t even be like, “trust me, i am dave.”

the genuine euphoric glee i felt when we were canonized. and then, the absolute, shit-eating grin i greeted my friends with.

they tried to insist that i was still wrong, cause “it couldn’t have worked without the timeline reset” or whatever, but they knew their asses were wrong. they had no idea. i felt like the ceo of media literacy that day.

-dave strider

[bumblebee-chimera]

I have a crack hc and a desperate need for these two to be friends

(Their partners are away on royal duties)

[its-okay-youre-adorable]

the thing with Listening To Music From A Source is that you can't play me the entire soundtrack of Epic the Musical with the guitar riff from Adventure of a Lifetime repeating on loop for the whole duration so thank you but I will continue to listen to the brainwaves not the soundwaves

[mello-when-hi]

You ever see a lore take so bad you ALMOST become a hateful anon in their inbox?

[horse-shit]

guys don't worry the reason laurence was in llp was because it was void paradox but this time he got a new body and it just happened to be the upside down stories--