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Why Gabriel doesn’t deserve a redemption - the Hypocrisy of the Writers - Miraculous Season 5 Finale spoilers Ahead.
If you have seen the finale then you already know what happens to Gabriel . He dies but gets remembered as a hero and his reputation was unscratched. The writers have the audacity to say a teenage girl will never become a better person because her actions are unforgivable but they go ahead and redeem Gabriel Agreste - a literal terrorist and abuser - who has done a lot worse. This post will explain why Gabriel doesn’t deserve a redemption arc and how his character feels ruined.
Part 1 - Gabriels crimes and why the writers think they are justifiable. Triggers of Child abuse and terrorism
This man has committed atrocious crimes of which the most obvious was child abuse. Mainly towards Adrien. The writers think due to Gabe losing his wife - it is justified why he neglects Adrien - it is a sign of grief. That he spends every day terrorizing Paris because he wants Emelie back to complete Adrien's family. They say he does all he does because he cares about his son. While this was the case during seasons 1-4 , his character changes in season 5. He no longer does it for Emily and Adrien but for power. He abuses Adrien even more this season by trapping him in a room and separating him from Marinette.
However his Character is ruined in the season 5 finale. He wishes Emily and Natalie to live and pleads with Marinette to make sure Adrien remembers him as a good father. That's not her burden to carry or her responsibility . Gabriel had the audacity to ask the girl he traumatised to keep every crime he has committed a secret from his own son ! Despite everything Gabriel has done to Marinette - she finds out he was Hawkmoth - she still forgives him and helps build a statue of Gabe in his honor. The writers think Gabriel deserves redemption because he did show remorse for what he did to Adrien and cried when he watched Emilie's tapes. But Adrien wasn’t his only victim and child abuse wasn’t his only crime. Gabriel never showed remorse for what he put Marinette through (he knows she's a ladybug .) He never apologized for separating her from Adrien or for the trauma he inflicted on her as Ladybug. Even when Ladybug gave her a chance , he blew it by paralyzing her.
He is also an international terrorist who primarily targets children. He threatened to kill Alya’s family and murdered many Parisians in Strike Back but still gets remembered as a hero. Even in the final fight , he says he doesn’t care about the innocent victims he hurted. He never felt bad about what he did. It gives kids a bad message. While I think Gabe dying in Emily's place isn’t a bad idea , the fact that Gabriel gets away with his crimes and is celebrated as a savior is disgusting. At the very least , he shouldn’t be presented as a good man and should be remembered as the villain and a terrorist. It’s a slap in the face for all his victims. The fact that all of Gabriel's other crimes are forgiven just because he felt remorse for one is sickening.
Especially in Season 5 , where the writer makes Gabe to be sympathetic by having his relationship with Emelie mirrors Adrienette’s relationship because he and Marinette both came from humble backgrounds. That's why the writers think Gabe is redeemable , because he and Marinette are similar and both care for Adrien. The fact he basically got what he wanted and is being remembered as a savior is so unfair to Marinette and Adrien. Sure he died , but Emelie came back or he reunited with her (depending if you think it was Amelie or Emelie). Therefore , Gabe doesn’t deserve redemption because he never proved himself or felt remorse for most of his crimes. He manipulated Marinette till the very end into thinking he was a good person when in reality , he doesn't care about anyone except for himself , Adrien , Natalie and Emelie.
Part 2 - Obvious hypocrisy
It is no secret that Thomas dislikes Chloe. However in Season 5 he has taken his hate for her way too far that he sacrificed good writing to bash her character and hurt her fans. He repeatedly says on his twitter Chloe will never become a better person because she is a bully and has done too many unforgivable acts. Surprisingly , in season 5 episode 26 , they go ahead and redeem Gabriel - a terrorist , child abuser , groomer and manipulator - who has arguably done so much worse. I don’t mind if the writers don’t give Chloe a redemption arc , not all characters need a redemption but it feels hypocritical saying a teenage bully is irredeemable but an adult terrorist is sympathetic. Especially of how rushed and badly written Gabriel's redemption arc is.
So when Chloe does something evil , the writers say she in irredeemable and deserves every bit of Karma but when Gabriel does something worse , the writers justify what he has done because of his sympathetic motive and give him a redemption story. This disgusts me because it is shown time and time again that Gabriel likes to use Chloe in his heinous plans. Three episodes ago Gabriel was manipulating and grooming Chloe into joining his side. Gabriel is partly to blame for Chloe's worst crimes , he enabled her and put the ideas in her head. But the writers act like Chloe is more in the wrong than Gabriel when he is clearly more guilty than she is !! They act like it is OK for Gabriel to manipulate and akumatize Chloe because it's for the sake of getting his wife back. Chloe is not a good person , but it is unfair how she is the only character to face consequences when Characters worse than her are getting rewarded and receive happy endings !! Chloe is disowned by her father and sent to live with her abuser while Gabriel reunites with Emelie (depending on which sister you think it was at the pool party) and is celebrated as a saviour. Gabriel being more moral in the eyes of the writers than a misguided teenager - who also is one of his main victims - is sickening. Therefore Gabriel redemption isn’t deserved because it shows the double standards the writers have for Chloe.
To conclude - Gabriel's character in the Season 5 finale is basically ruined. Gabriel receiving a redemption is an example of bad writing and feels rushed. He only felt remorse for what he did to Adrien but never felt bad for terrorizing Paris or using Chloe. He never apologized to Marinette for separating her from Adrien or for other crimes he did. His redemption feels Hypocritical compared to the character of Chloe - who was one of Gabriel's main targets. Hopefully in season 6 , Adrien finds out about what happened and Paris receives the justice they deserve. However if you like what they did with his character , that is perfectly fine . I’m not saying you are not allowed to dislike Gabriel. This is just my opinion . Feel free to disagree :) . Please stay respectful.
#miraculous ladybug#mlb#mlb salt#mlb writers salt#gabriel salt#chloe is also bad#chloe deserves better#chloe bourgeois#gabriel agreste#marinette dupain cheng#adrien agreste#adrien deserves better#marinette deserves better#astruc salt#thomas astruc#astruc#hypocrisy#double standards#abusers are rewarded#victims are punished#miraculous season 5 finale#miraculous season 5#mlb season 5 spoilers
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Purple Emperor (plus Monarch Mode) Thomas Astruc as the holder of the Butterfly/Moth Miraculous. Astruc revealing his true color.
Miraculous Ladybug made by Thomas Astruc & Zagtoon Drawn by Redtriangle (me)
#miraculous ladybug#miraculous#ladybug#thomas astruc#thomas#astruc#au#evil#villain#butterfly#moth#purple#emperor#Kwamiswap#hawkmoth#monarch
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Marinette has shown to be Adrien's stalker throughout the seasons... What do you think?
#miraculous ladybug#ladybug#chat noir#question#poll#the adventures of ladybug and chat noir#astruc#i dont know what else to add here
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"Femme Endormie dans un Intérieur d'Artiste (Scène de Somnambulisme)" aquarelle de Zacharie Astruc (1871) à l'exposition "Paris 1874. Inventer l'Impressionnisme" au Musée d'Orsay, juillet 2024.
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This is what it feels like reading any thomas astruc tweet about chloe
#miraculous ladybug#mlb#thomas astruc#chloe bourgeois#chloe deserved better#i will fight anyone about that
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tbh I really like the idea of married Adrien and Marinette adopting their kids. Both because it's kind of a flex on Gabriel and Emilie (who thought that the appropriate response to difficulty conceiving was to hunt down ancient magical artifacts and then create a magical son that they could puppeteer and control...... because adoption/surrogates were apparently.... beneath them. or something.) but also because I just think it'd be really cute.
Like, imagine Ladybug and Chat Noir, heroes of Paris, adopting Parisian orphans. imagine Marinette and Adrien struggling to get on the good side of a "difficult" traumatized child who used to spend their days in the foster system fantasizing about Ladybug and Chat Noir saving them without realizing the new parents trying to connect with them rn ARE Ladybug and Chat Noir. Imagine them fostering kids themselves and just being A+ stellar parents between Adrien's patience and Marinette's attentiveness and both of their affection. idk I just think there's a lot there and it could be sosososo sweet
#also ok. TO BE CLEAR: astruc has implied on twitter that sentimonsters are capable of reproducing. so this isnt like CANON or anything. BUT#........ what if they couldn't teeeheee!!!!! just for meeeee!!! for my little adoption aus!!!!!!!!!!! xoxoxo#(not that you can't adopt while also being able to conceive but yknow makes it more likely or whatever)#but yeah ive always been a big huge sucker for adoption and adoption stories and i want to gobble them up. thanks for coming to my tedtalk
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The best part of the London Special was when Ladybug said "Its London time!" and spent 99% of the special being anywhere but London.
#the worst clickbait since Kuro Neko#miraculous ladybug#miraculous#mlb#ml london spoilers#ml london special#london special#miraculous ladybug salt#miraculous salt#ml fandom salt#ml writers salt#ml writing salt#mlb salt#thomas astruc salt#ml salt#thomas astruc#miraculous spoilers#ml spoilers
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Adrien trying things for the first time and completely flopping at it. Look at him! Sunshine boy is doing his best and finally living! No more being a prisoner in his own home.
#miraculous ladybug#miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir#tales of ladybug and cat noir#adrien agreste#marinette dupain cheng#thomas astruc#mlb ladybug#cat noir#ml s6 spoilers#mlb s6 spoilers#ml Climatiqueen
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The Beauty of this Fandom
Me, casually new to Tumblr and fanfiction writing for this fandom: Huh, I wonder who this Thomas Astruc guy is? The old director? Why does everyone hate him?
Starts digging: Yeah... he needs to touch grass and not get pissed off on Twitter. It's Twitter. Someone is going to argue about anything, even if you say kicking literal puppies are bad. XD
Digs more: Wait so... that one director character is a self insert? I mean... that's ok? I guess?
Digs even more into the absolute chaos: Marinette... is the not real and very much fictional child... he never had with his ex. And his ex was named Sabine. His has not one, but TWO self inserts??? What the fuck have I stumbled into?
Digs more: And Chloe was based on his childhood bully which was why he did a complete 180 on her redemption arc. God damnit. And ma boy! Our boy Adrian keeps being pushed to the side!
Finishes digging: Welp. Now I know why Marinette is creepy and why this show was ruined. I herby join in this lovely community's cause of making content better then whatever the actual flonk happened from season 3 to season 5. This man is indeed worth the nickname Ass Truck. :D
I'm going to make a redemption arc for Chloe in my Corrupted Miraculous AU. This is going to be sick. XD
#miraculous ladybug#miraculous lb#miraculous writing#miraculous au#tales of ladybug and cat noir#marinette dupain cheng#miraculous fanfiction#miraculous universe#miraculoustalesofladybugandcatnoir#Miraculous#corrupted miraculous au#miraculous salt#ml oc#mlb fanfic#mlb fandom#ml fanfic#mlb#mlb au#thomas astruc#thomas astruc salt#marinette salt#ml salt
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I love to see character assasinations and female villains turn into one dimensional bitches, whoo!
#anti helluva boss#helluva boss critical#anti vivziepop#anti miraculous ladybug#miraculous ladybug critical#anti thomas astruc#chloe bourgeois#stella helluva boss#chloe deserves better
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Most Hated Magical Girl Character - Round 3
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This song really fits her character.
#miraculous ladybug#mlb#mlb writers salt#thomas astruc#Thibaudeau salt#chloe bourgeois#andre bourgeois#andre salt#chloe deserves better#astruc#gabriel agreste#gabriel salt#mlb season 5 spoilers#mlb season five#astruc salt#marina and the diamonds#seventeen#revolution
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Thomas Astruc Seriously? Where to begin? The fact that Thomas Astruc, the creator of Miraculous Ladybug, is mainly responsible for ruining Chloe’s character and the entire show story with his bad writing and influence since episode Miracle Queen, Season 4, and Season 5, if not always been from the very beginning for some longtime fans. When I heard about “Adrien is a Sentimonster” theory even I was still new to the show, I promised myself a long time ago that I will never forgive him if were true. I won’t forgive him. I don’t know if I should say this but given what he have done to Miraculous… I hate him.
Why draw him you ask? How do I put this?
To put this simply. I need to vent out my frustration through art like I did on All-Americus/All-Ameriquilicus way back. And I want to show everyone who can see this the villain he is; least how I picture him. I mean, look at his face, at those eyes, filled with so much anger, hate, and even arrogance, able to get away with what he have done and do however he like without regards for others as if he’s the Miraculous God.
But as much I hate him, I can still give him the decency to make him a cool-looking badass character as I can.
And just to let you know, this is my AU version of the show’s Astruc, his ‘avatar’ and not the actual Astruc in Real-Life despite the similarities. Thomas Almighty
Basically, Thomas Astruc turned into God, or what he supposed to be.
I’ll admit, I was kind of lazy with his design, his clothes are still the same just turned white. But then again, I’m sure that how he prefer to dress even as “God”.
So basically, he is the Miraculous version of Chuck/God from Supernatural; write his story how sees fit not how bad or the hurt on other people.
I also admit my selection of his exact powers are half-baked. I mean, in terms of reality-warping, what can and can’t do? He is not really a god, he’s a man pretending to be a god, thanks to Hawkmoth. In fact, that’s the overall theme, he is powerful to almost godlike but he is still a man, an irrational man that is.
And his name, I just add “Almighty” like from the movies Evan Almighty or Bruce Almighty.Name: Thomas Almighty
Akumatized Object: Unknown
Cause of Akumatized? Unknown, possibly his hatred for Chloe and for Jeremy Zag and his studio cutting him off or we different direction from his plan
Powers: - Super-Strength - Super-Speed - Super-Durability - High Stamina - Flight - Teleportation
- Near-Invulnerability - Immortality
- Reality-Warping: — Matter Manipulation: Transform, create/transmute, control, and destroy any matter even at an atomic level and on living things physically. — Energy Manipulation: Control, absorb, emit or create any forms of energy; especially pure energy
— Spatial Manipulation: Control spaces and dimensions around him. — Weather Control
— Gravity Control
— Time Control (Limited)
Weakness and Limitation: - Cannot brainwash or mind control intelligent living beings
- Cannot rewrite fate of people or happenings of the world or Universe - Cannot control time entirely or time travel
- Don’t have psychic powers if not low-powered - Susceptible to psychic or mental attacks
These are just the first taste of my Evil!Astruc series.
Miraculous Ladybug made by Thomas Astruc & Zagtoon Drawn by Redtriangle (me)
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Bro as someone who uses a walking aid (a cane) and is disabled seeing the new trailer for Miraculous Ladybug makes me absolutely furious. I have never felt so much hatred for a fictional character before and yet here we are. I didn't like Marinette before but like, this just. This hits way too close to home and I know Astruc is going to frame it in a way that makes Marinette the good guy. But NOTHING excuses touching a disability aid without permission, especially fooling around with it and sabotaging it. And the fact that a younger generation is going to see this, I absolutely can't. I feel so bad for disabled children who will see this scene on TV and have their feelings be in the wrong, shown that they are the bad guys for getting upset, or heavens forbid being disabled. Screw you Astruc.
#also interesting that Adrien was supposed to be disabled and have a cand but they scraped that concept because they “couldn't handle it”#only for this character to emerge as Marinette's so called enemy and she be disabled#its almost like they are trying to say something about disabled people but I can't quite put my finger on it (sarcasm)#miraculous ladybug#marinette salt#marinette bashing#miraculous ladybug salt#astruc salt#miraculous ladybug writing salt#tw: albelism
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“Croix du Reliquaire de la Vraie Croix de Saint-Claude avec Fragments de la Croix d'Anseau" de Paul Brunet d'après Jules Astruc (1900), "Croix Reliquaire avec Parcelles du Bois de la Croix et de la Couronne d'Epines" de François Isaac Bertrand dit Bertrand-Paraud en argent doré (circa 1820-69) et "Monstrance avec Portion de la Croix d'Anseau" de Maurice Poussielgue-Rusand en argent doré, bois, verre et émaux (circa 1901) présentées à l'exposition “Le Trésor de Notre-Dame de Paris - Des Origines à Viollet-Le-Duc” au Louvre, décembre 2023.
#expos#inspirations bijoux#cabinet de curiosités#email#Astruc#Brunet#Bertrand#BertrandParaud#PoussielgueRusand#Louvre
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i wholeheartedly believe they would be so annoying together sorry marinette
#miraculous ladybug#theres no info on this guy im spitballing so hard#yay#thomas astruc release more info on this guy NOW
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