#MCU rant
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legalandnotease · 3 days ago
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The thing that aggravates me the most is that people are acting like Thunderbolts was *the* first time that Bucky's arm was treated like a joke, when really this has been happening since Infinity War, but TFatWS was the first time it was actually removed. Honestly that whole scene in TFatWS was painful. Not only does he not seem to think his opponent touching his shoulder is off and like - move... but he also wasn't aware that there was a killswitch on the arm. The situation is rendered absurd by Sam asking "did you know they could do that?" after its removal.
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(...and *do not* get me started on the gross rhetoric that scene gave rise to in which people started saying the Wakandans had a right to confiscate Bucky's *weaponized prosthetic* because "they gave it to him therefore they own it". Yes, the Wakandan arm is a weapon.
Yes I do understand why T'Challa gave it to him- and I do understand the fate of the very world was at stake. Bucky would probably have been happy to fight Thanos either way but the fact still remains. That new prosthetic was given to him for the express purpose of *fighting*. Bucky knew that- its why he says "where's the fight?" the instant he sees it.
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The implication that the Wakandans had a right to remove it for doing something they didn't like is disturbing in two ways. First because its literally weaponizing part of his body which BTW is exactly what HYDRA did to him.
Second there's the idea that disabled people don't own thier own ability aids and have a right to use them as they see fit. Like, someone gives Matt Murdock new sight stick and they - have the right to take it away if he represents someone they don't approve of?The implication that fully able people have the ultimate control over disabled people's bodies is actually gross.
Last of all, its hardly a shock that Bucky's arm became a running gag when *hours* after he got we had Rocket making that quip and *then* several more jokes about it in TFatWS. One character calls Bucky "the bionic staring machine" (it might've been Sam) and another calls him a "cyborg". You can dismiss both oas a harmless jokes if you want (many do) but to me its part of a pattern. First of defining Bucky as nothing more than his disability, and second of mocking and minimizing both the disability and the tramatic events which resulted in him becoming disabled in the first place. A pattern that started in 2018 and still hasn't ended.
Its no surprise really that we got the vile Nebula giving Rocket his arm as a Christmas present plotline the following year. It bears noting with that as well that whilst fandom today denounce and try to distance themselves from that scene at the time people were actively *asking for* it to happen. They *wanted* Rocket to "get the arm".
At very very least in Thunderbolts we had Ava showing enough consideration to pick up the arm when an incapacitated Bucky couldn't and carrying it for him until he asked for it back. (Then you remember that Ava also has a bodily difference... so it at least read that as one disabled person looking out for another). Last time it was "ripped off him" that didn't happen and the time before that he had to pick it up himself whilst Sam just made a joke at his expense.
You know what the worst thing is though @nrilliree? It isn't the casual ableism of the last 7 years. Its that one of the writers of Civil War actually suggested that Bucky's arm being blown off wasn't intended to be sympathetic. It was intended as a narrative "punishment". He wasn't being treated with respect even in Civil War.
Y’kno, for all of CA:CW’s faults, at least it never treated Bucky’s left arm as a joke.
When Bucky loses his arm in this film, it isn’t because he suddenly forgets how to move away from an opponent that’s suddenly in his space and touching him (TFATWS) or he throws some clearly ineffective punches at an enemy and, for whatever reason, doesn’t think to change his strategy (Thunderbolts), but because he got blasted by Tony Stark’s arc reactor point blank after using an incredible feat of strength to try and stop him. And when his arm is blown off? It’s treated with the appropriate amount of shock and horror. It frames it as a terrifying moment for Bucky and makes him feel incredibly sympathetic. He just lost a part of him in an extremely brutal fashion in the fraction of a second. It wasn’t something he could’ve predicted or easily avoided (unlike future instances where he loses his arm…again 🙄).
But now? Now his arm is used as the butt of stupid jokes. Rocket wants to buy it. Nebula STEALS IT off screen to use it as a Christmas gift. Bucky spills some sauce on it and the only way to wash it is by running it through the dishwasher. He now has to lose it at least one ☝️ time in every new thing he’s in like it’s some quota that has to be filled. Like. The MCU writers seriously can’t think of anything involving Bucky’s arm that doesn’t take away his dignity as a disabled person while also showcasing him as the strong, competent fighter he is?
Literally the only genuinely funny thing involving his arm is when he threw a punch at Peter, leading to the latter catching it and immediately exclaiming how cool it is. And that happened in Civil War!
I don’t know. Civil War definitely could’ve been a much better film, but at least it got that part right.
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natr0manova · 3 months ago
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seeing people's reaction to the new yelena clip makes me realize again how badly the mcu fucked up natsha's fighting style.
like, all black widows are literally suppossed to be olympic level gymnasts, acrobats and aerialists.
that's kinda their thing...
but the mcu decided to make natasha wrap her thighs around a man's head 24/7 instead of making her fighting style what it's suppossed to be: acrobatic, artistic and even kind of ballet inspired.
"B-b-but it's not realistic!!😖🥺😢 She has the super soldier serum!!" It's the mcu! there literally was a purple man, who wiped out 50% of the universe using pretty stones.
I think you guys can survive when a woman (who's been trained in acrobatics & gymnastics since she was a little girl) uses highly acrobatic/gymnastic skills in her fighting style. And it's still not confirmed whether or not the Widows have some sort of serum but it's realistic (at least for me) that after decades of training one can pull off such skills without a serum.
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swarnim29 · 12 days ago
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legalandnotease · 5 months ago
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You know what annoys me most about Endgame (well a lot of things do), but most of all?
The way that it completely ignores what Natasha did. How crucial her actions were to the ultimate victory. Instead they tried to make Endgame into Iron Man 4, and pretend Tony saved everyone singlehandedly. Yet the truth is the plan to reverse the snap would *never have worked* without Natasha's sacrifice.
They had to have all of the stones to snap everybody back- and they also had to have all the Stones to snap Thanos away. Even one missing, and not only would the Snapped have stayed dead, but Thanos would have won a second time.
In truth, it was Natasha who saved the universe and Natasha who ensured ultimate victory against Thanos. Anybody could have snapped Thanos away (it didn't have to be Tony), but few could have paid the ultimate price for the Soul Stone.
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In fact: let's talk about the Soul Stone. It was the most difficult and costly of all the Stones to obtain. I read that some theories that the souls of the Snapped were contained in the Stone, and so it was the key to bringing everyne back.
Meaning that Stone was also the one which allowed Thanos and his army to be Snapped away.
So again, it all comes back to Natasha, and her choice on Vormir.
Yet she didn't even get a funeral. The movie just completely ignores her to give Tony all the credit and all the fuss when he actually did very little.
And had to be emotionally blackmailed and tricked to do even that. Natasha was willing every step of the way.
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leodrraws · 8 months ago
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And let me tell you one thing, people of tumblr: Steve Rogers was a total jerk with that letter. No, he did a good thing for apologising (sort of) and explaining himself, but the fact that he just sent Tony a letter? And a phone?? Which basically translates as, here, the next move is yours, I’m not gonna deal with the mess I left behind, but “I’ll always be here” if you need me. As if he didn’t understand that Tony would likely never call. As if it wasn’t the most hypocritical way to apologise — keeping his distance, wallowing in guilt, saying ‘just give me a call!’ like it was about some argument over what show to watch, not what happened in Siberia.
And yeah, it’s good Steve apologised in general, but the way he did it? Not so much. Passing the responsibility for their relationship onto Tony (here’s the phone for YOU, call me if YOU need), subtly implying that he, Steve, probably won’t need Tony, but he’ll be gracious enough to be there if Tony feels like reaching out. Well, fuck you, Steve, and your hypocritical, self-righteous nobility. If you really wanted to fix things between you two, you’d go to Tony and talk face to face like adults do — not send a fucking note admitting you screwed up, hoping it somehow will take all the guilt off of you and fix things. Like it doesn’t just leave Tony to deal with the fact that Steve acknowledges what happened but has no interest in doing anything about it.
(for the record: I’m speaking from a place of emotion here, because objectively, I love Steve’s hypocrisy. It makes him such a compelling, layered character by highlighting his struggle to handle personal conflicts (as opposed to physical battles), and I absolutely love how CW pushes him into that moral grey area)
P.S. come and like my drawing that sparked all these thoughts
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hiraikotsusama · 5 months ago
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ATTENTION! THIS IS A RANT POST ABOUT THOR: RAGNAROK
If you are not interested/a Ragnarok fan please skip, or just don't leave negative comments, thank you.
Ok, here we go.
I personally hate how overrated Thor: Ragnarok is.
People only started criticising Waititi's direction after the Love and Thunder flop, and I was honestly flabbergasted, because... They were criticising the exact same things they loved so much in Ragnarok.
For example, they criticised Thor being too stupid and unserious but... He was already an idiot in Ragnarok? Which, by the way, even as a Loki stan, was the thing I hated the most about the movie (I guess the Odinsons just have a tendency of becoming idiotic scapegoats in every modern piece of media that depicts them. Yes, I'm also referencing the Loki series here.)
But moving on.
Another thing that was funny to me was people (rightfully) criticising the lack of seriousness and conflict with such a great villain. And, once again, I was there standing like... It's the SAME THING that happened in Ragnarok?? Like, the movie that's supposed to be about Ragnarok literally only had like 20 minutes of apocalypse/main conflict with Hela/Surtr in it! Most of the goddamn movie takes place on a dumb garbage planet with the Grandmaster (another wasted character) just fucking around. Little side note here, the Grandmaster is supposed to be the Collector's brother (in the comics and cartoon they both collect rare things and people and compete over it, yadda yadda) and yet this isn't referenced in any way? His powers are never shown. Like what? The potential? Wasted like that? UGH.
Also, this movie adds shallow characters. First of all, obviously, the Grandmaster, who I already covered. Then, and here I'm taking a deep breath waiting to get crucified, Valkyrie.
Ok, I'm going to try and explain this one easily. Valkyrie isn't a bad character, ok? I'm already going to say this since I want to clarify it as soon as possible. I don't think she's bad and I don't dislike her. The problem is, she is given a shallow personality and shallow purpose, at least when I look at her. For instance, I appreciated the way her trauma was portrayed, with her drinking and all, but they do joke about it sometimes (too many) and that I do not appreciate. But then. Her personality just... Ends there. And again, this is comprehensible in a way, but what I do not understand is her just switching sides randomly, like she didn't capture and shock Thor just hours before in the movie. That, plus her serving little purpose to the plot is what irks me the most. Like, the main things she does in the movie are:
1. Capturing Thor and bringing him to the GM.
2. Telling them about the only way out of the planet.
3. Being there in the final battle.
And if this was a better written movie, this would make her a necessary character. But in Ragnarok... She isn't.
She catches Thor, then dips. Ok, just have him randomly land in the GM's throne room, or have him getting caught by another rando who then dips.
The escape? Loki has lived with the GM (and his most trusted court members/whatever they are supposed to be) for two weeks. Do you really think that someone like him couldn't gather such a massive piece of info in this time? Or even better, do you think he hasn't noticed the GIANT EINSTEIN-ROSEN BRIDGE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SKY? He is intelligent. That's the point of his character. He would- SHOULD- have figured it out in a matter of days, the only thing stopping him was getting to a decent ship to cross said bridge, and that's what he actually needed his brother (and maybe Hulk, even if his presence was pretty random) for.
The final battle was disappointing, so I'm not even going to comment this one.
All of this to say that, with the way the character/movie was written, Valkyrie could have been removed, a few changes could have been made and the movie would have been the same. Yeah, she's friends with Hulk, which, cool, but once again this bond isn't used in any way besides her joking with him and Bruce. Her character was treated way better in the What If episodes she appeared in.
[Edit: someone reblogged and thought I was implying that her character should be thrown away. To be clear, I wasn't, I actually like her and do acknowledge that Jane, too, was shallow as a character, I just didn't mention her because she doesn't appear in this movie. All I was saying is that the writing makes her just be there, which is something that pisses me off, too. This was just to point out that Ragnarok just added so many characters with potential that was never used, and Valkyrie is one of them. Hell, you could take away half of the secondary characters, if not (almost) all of them, and the movie would stay the same.]
Then we have Korg. Yeah, I got nothing to say, he's an idiot that used to be a serious/half-important character in comics/series and got severely distorted in this movie like most other characters starring in it. Funnily enough, just like Valkyrie, his character is treated better and is way more useful in What If, which is honestly ironic.
Then, I could talk about the mistreatment of both Thor and Loki's characters but that would take a post the length of the Divine Comedy, so I'll just cut it short and cover the most important points.
Thor and Loki are obviously not appreciated (Loki is disliked more, of course he is), and therefore are written in a very OOC way. Thor turns into a full blabbering idiot and Loki is interpreted as someone whose only purpose is to betray, stab and rule. And that's all I'm going to say for now, even though I might extend the discourse in a future post.
And now, oooh boy, Hela. I loved Hela, I was excited as soon as she appeared on screen. And what happened next? Her brothers got lost in space and we didn't see them interact with her in any way besides her introduction and the short ahh dialogue with Thor in the final battle. I hate this so much. Once again, the movie that's supposed to talk about Ragnarok only shows the conflict in the last 20 minutes of the movie. And we barely see Hela, or at least we don't get to see her as much as we should, given that she's supposed to be the main antagonist of the damn movie. Her character was great, for all that we could see, but she is a walking definition of wasted potential and I despise it.
Now, there is something I do appreciate about the movie, and it's the characterization of Hulk. He finally isn't reduced to a stupid destroyer or dumb beast, and as a huge Hulk fan and Agents of S.M.A.S.H. watcher I liked this. This, and Heimdall being given some scenes and characterization, too. That's it. That's what I liked about the movie.
Now, short list of things I hated to finish the post: Fandral and Volstagg being killed like flies, Hogun meeting a similar fate right after, Sif not even appearing (so much for Sif and the Three Warriors); the constant jokes that were obviously made for an audience of four years olds; Skurge (or whatever his name was) just... Being there? Another useless/misused/mischaracterised character I didn't mention before, because DAMN is this character STUPID; STRANGE just appearing at some point and dipping (like he couldn't help them?? WHY EVEN MAKE HIM SHOW UP AT ALL UGHHH).
I think that's about it for now, thanks for reading this stupid rant. I'm open for constructive criticism and comments, and also for peaceful discussion, so DM me or leave a comment if you feel like interacting.
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HOW DID WE GO FROM THIS
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Y'all, I'm so excited but so scared for some Bucky angst/action. Hopefully, we also get some cool interactions between Yelena and Bucky (while respecting the fact that Yelena is aroace) 🤭
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spiderculechronicals · 12 days ago
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*brain fizzes*
It just occurred to me that the ending they gave Steve in the MCU basically has him inflicting on Bucky what happened to him with Peggy when he came out of the ice. In a matter of moments, this important person you thought you were going to spend the rest of your life with has gone and done it without you. Already. He moved on and lived his life without him. But this was *on purpose*... not some bittersweet necessity of life. Ugh.
Someone said they thought it was poetic how Stark's ending was selfless and Steve's was selfish. BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY SO SELFISH. Like unforgivable level of selfish! Not just doing something for himself for once- doing something for himself that disregarded other people!
Never getting over that.
Even if you don't see their relationship as ever moving past platonic, they were committed and loyal to each other. Til the end of the line. And Steve abandoned him with no contact and also rewrote Peggy's history. Gross.
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nicoveil · 2 months ago
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I gotta fucking say this cause TikTok marvel fans make me angry again (what’s new)
JOHN WALKER IS A BAD PERSON. Repeat that with me..
JOHN WALKER ISSSSSS A BAD PERSON
and that’s okay!
Before I talk, if you don’t know, TikTok is making John Walker seem like he did “nothing wrong” and that he is actually a good captain America. Can people just shut the fuck up?
I love John after thunderbolts. But if you hated him in falcon and the winter soldier, that’s valid. Cause he sucked.
“Oh what did John do! He killed a filthy TERRORIST!” Yeah. With a symbol a hope while an unarmed man begged for his life and surrendered. Thats a war crime, John did a war crime.
I just need to say, bad people make great characters. John is bad, and that’s actually fucking awesome. There’s a big reason why I liked him in thunderbolts compared to FATWS.. cause John tried TOO Hard to be nice. HES NOT NICE! And he doesn’t need to be.
That’s what makes him a good character. He’s a dick. I need John fans to accept that and not defend him like their life depends on it
Okay rant over time to read Bob fanfiction
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kaiya3333 · 4 months ago
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Hi there. I fear my question could come across a bit mean spirited??, but I'm a brand new mcu watcher and stucky fan (just started with the infinity saga at the beginning of the year. Latest mcu movie I watched was age of ultron.), so I'm honestly just curious...
Did Fans (especially stucky Fans) back in the day really hope that the mcu would make stucky canon?
I already know how Steve's story /the stucky relationship will end, although I haven't watched it yet, and I still fell l in love with stucky. 😔
Hi there! I assume this is related to my recent post talking about Steve’s character assassination. I definitely can’t speak for all fans but I grew up watching the marvel movies and I tend to be grounded in reality. I didn’t think we were going to get canon stucky. The assassination I’m talking about is more so in the sense that the Steve Rogers I grew up watching would not abandon his friends especially not Bucky (I mean wasn’t that the whole point of civil war?). I kind of see him absconding off into the past without Bucky, leaving him in the future with a bunch of people he really doesn’t know to be that? Obviously Steve deserves his happy ending etc etc and while I personally think that would’ve been with Bucky in a romantic sense I think it should have been with Bucky at least as friends who go “till the end of the line”. Not to mention, Peggy lived her life. It was full. And I appreciated the fact we got a story about a woman who accomplished a lot in life and enjoyed her life without the things people traditionally consider giving women joy. And something about him going back and more than likely inevitably changing that puts a bad taste in my mouth. Not to mention the obvious time violations. I hope this answered your question, and sorry if you didn’t need the rant. All this to say, I knew a bunch of straight white men weren’t going to give us Stucky in the 2010s I just didn’t think they’d fuck up Steve’s character
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fandomismylife · 4 months ago
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A message for MCU writers: WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK YALL
I just watched Multiverse of Madness for the first time. YOU KILLED OFF WANDA????
You could have taken her story and made a whole tragic ass side plot where she heals and goes back to normal, but NO. YOU DECIDED TO CRUSH HER WITH A GODDAM ANCIENT STRUCTURE.
YOU COULD HAVE MADE A HIT MOVIE OR MOVIE SERIES, YOU COULD HAVE FED YOUR FANDOM, YOU COULD HAVE GIVEN HER KIDS BACK.
BUT YOU DECIDED TO GIVE HER THE ERNESTO DE LA CRUZ TREATMENT. TURNED HER INTO A GODDAM PANCAKE.
- Signed, ANGRY MCU FAN
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natr0manova · 2 months ago
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does the mcu know that alexi sent natasha and yelena to be trafficked??? he watched soliders drugging "his girls" and carrying them away!!
and mind you, alexei was litterally besties with the head of a child trafficking ring (dreykov). and the reason alexei despised him was because dreykov sent alexei to prison...
alexi stans (if you guys even exist) DNI.
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swarnim29 · 4 days ago
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legalandnotease · 5 months ago
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One claim I often see Tony fans making is that Steve was being selfish for not "considering children born during the Snap" in the team's desire to bring everybody back.
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This is obviously a form of emotional blackmail After all- how could *anybody* want to erase *billions* of children?
Well, this claim is wrong for a number of reasons
1: There is no evidence of large-scale births or an increasing birth rate during the Snap. Tony fans often say that there must have been millions and milions of children born during the Snap, but this makes no sense because, as a general rule humans do not simply "get over" losing their entire family an "move on".
Even losing one child can be an emotional blow that person never recovers from. Clint Barton lost all 3 of his children, and we know he did not simply "move on" and start a new family.
People do not simply recover from such things in a few years and create new families. It almost never happens.
Furthermore, population dynamics come to play: some planets lost as much as 3/4 of their population due to Thanos pre-Snap genocides.
Even for those who lost "only" half though this would mean half of all birthing females and existing children snapped.
Fewer birthing females means..... a lower birth rate. Also take account of things like infertility and the fact that some women who lost thier children would have been beyond childbearing age: notable case - Queen Ramonda.
Even assuming people were interested in relationships and reproduction (and most were not) the birth rate during the Snap would have been expontentially lower then it was before.
Real life disasters and catastrophes also reveal that it takes a long time for the population to recover. The Black Death killed 1/3 to 1/2 of the population of Europe in the Middle Ages- and it took something along the lines of 3 to 4 centuries for the population to reach the level that it had been before the plague struck.
Literally: it can take HUNDREDS of years for the population to recover. The idea that the world would have returned to normal after only 5 years is ludicrous.
2: The children killed by the Snap.
Half of the human race were snapped. This would have included children. Potentially hundeds of millions of children were killed by the Snap. This is far more than the number who who have been born during the Snap.
There's another issue however: many children would have died after the Snap.
Sick children whose parents or doctors were snapped and were unable to get the medical treatment they needed
Young children whose parents were snapped would have died within a few days if nobody found them.
Children in poorer countries would have been the first to succumb to things like famines and food shortages caused by the Snap.
However, children in rich countries would have followed. Food shortages and the breakdown of intractructure would have caused problems witht the availability of food and medical supplies. Diseases would have become more common without the medicines to keep them in check, and poor sanitation.
In other words, potentiallly hundreds of millions more children would have died after the Snap in addition to those who had been Snappped.
None of those children would have been bought back by Bruce's Snap in Endgame. They would have stayed dead. All because of Tony's selfish insistence that he "didn't change anything from the last 5 years".
So, no matter how Tony fans want to try and twist things: Tony Stark was quite prepared to sacrifice *hundreds of millions* if not billions of children for the sake of his desire to preserve his personal paradise.
He did not, in fact, "save everybody" at all. He saved only those bought back after the Snap and ... not really even them as they had to contend with years of social and economic problems.
You know what the most interesting irony of it all is though? Tony fucked over all those people for nothing. Pepper was already pregnant before the Snap, so reversing it would not have erased Morgan anyway.
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shipperoffanonships · 7 months ago
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Tony Stark: I hereby reinstate 'Prima Nocta'.
Tony stans: LOL he's so witty and funny-
Well, you idiots, here's what "Prima Nocta" means:
A term derived from medieval legends and historical myths. It refers to the supposed right of a feudal lord to take the virginity of a vassal's bride on her wedding night.
OK, it's not accepted to be a true practice BUT YOU GET THE POINT.
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tyconix · 6 months ago
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I think Spider-man should keep his identity a MAJOR SECRET.
The way people perceive him and treat him rely on NOT knowing who he is. Especially other heros! It is so much more entertaining to see that tension and those misunderstandings, instead of just using, "i have cameras around the city" or "I literately stalked you". It is so much funnier for these highly trainer spies and trackers to just- lose him, at a street corner or something. cameras everywhere except that one blind spot he always disappears from. For some reason all photos of him are blurry and unfocused, and his mask always rips in just the right spot so that you can't actually see his face. It fits with the Parker Luck (tm), because his life would probably be easier if they just figured it out- but they can't, because he's a slippery fast elusive vigilante that never sticks around. Who's actually just incredibly unlucky and late for class. which I think is far more hilarious.
I think its what the MCU made me miss, because in the literal first movie of his, everyone knows his age, identity, friendship, house. HIS villian, knows who he is, and this isn't like, kingpin or Green Gobiln its...THE VULTURE??? LIKE- okay i guess everyone can know about the ONLY character that had a secret identity? every other hero is a world recognized super star at that point, why must you take this one too? Wheres the funny "why do your socks look like that peter?" when he's wearing his suit under a robe, or the frantic pulling away of his backpack whenever someone gets close. We lose so much tension between his friends too, ned already knows, MJ already probably knows, flash is too dumb to figure it out, and other characters either don't matter or care about it, or move away. AUNT MAY knows so those phone calls where he's trying to come up with an excuse while at a bank robbery? literately robbed from us.
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