#Ogata Tome

[bowlinggwithmargo]

I've always hated the headcannons that Tome didn't love Ogata or that she would have ignored Ogata if he didn't look like Hanazawa, and now I have proof to back up why I hate them. I think the problem wasn't that she was completely neglectful of Ogata, but instead that she was so focused on his future and his success that she neglected who he was in the present.

(Moreover, the guilt he feels from killing her makes him not able to rationalize her fully– hence the lullaby "The way out is joyous, but the way home is frightful." But by commanding the seventh, he can not only get her attention/make her proud but prove that who he was presently was worthy of love.)

Yuusaku loved Ogata too, but when he projects this ideal future version of Ogata onto him, Ogata kills him.

All this calls into question his weird love of being demeaned and treated as less than as a means to prove his current self's worth, if that makes sense. Like he is this fuck up, low class, unloved child of a geisha and he wants to be loved as such almost?

Which is why his ending with Yuusaku hits as hard as it does because it affirms his innate self-worth, that he was inherently always worthy of love as he was. (That's why Asirpa awakened his guilt over killing Yuusaku because she also loved him for who he was. It's like he says, "Asirpa shone a light on me and now I can die.")

[every-ogata]

[storja-historja]

[bowietiee]

— the lynx.

ogata's impact on others' fate; the symbolism of a lynx in mythology and cultures.

the one uncovering tsurumi's lies to koito

the duo of even exchange: usami stayed tsumuri's favourite; ogata became a sniper again

the second shot was lethal

the first worthy rival who's also become the purpose, the muse

the one whom the gods watched to become a fine person. the one who never cried.

[darkscorpiox]

Golden Kamuy Headcanon #2 – What kind of Geisha was Ogata Tome?

The only thing we know of Ogata Tome’s time as a geisha is that she worked at Asakusa. It was speculated by @goldenkamuyhunting that Ogata was born in 1882 (1, 2, 3). At that time, Asakusa had three kinds of geishas:  

Hirokoji Geishas (広小路芸者) who worked in the areas of Asakusa Hirokoji (浅草広小路), currently Kaminarimon-dori Street (雷門通り), for the dengaku-chayas (田楽茶屋: teahouses selling tofu dengaku (豆腐田楽)) located there, hence the affectionate nickname Dengaku Geisha (田楽芸者). 

Saruwaka-cho Geishas (猿若町芸者) who worked for the shibai-jayas (芝居茶屋: teahouses working for theaters, serving spectators before a play or during the entr’acte) of the three kabuki theaters of Saruwaka-cho (猿若町), currently 6-chome Asakusa: Ichimura-za, Morita-za and Nakamura-za. The theaters had a cubic ornamental structure displaying their respective crests called yagura (櫓: watchtower, turret), positioned above the entrances, and since the activities of shibai-jayas took place under the latter, the geishas working there were also called Yagurashita Geishas (櫓下芸者).  

(From left to right: Ichimura-za, Morita-za and Nakamura-za)

Sanyabori no Geishas (山谷堀の芸者), commonly called Hori no Geishas (堀の芸者), who worked for the hikite-jayas (引手茶屋: teahouses serving the patrons of red-light districts before their appointments with brothels) of Sanyabori (山谷堀), the (no longer usable) canal leading customers to Yoshiwara by funayados (船宿: houseboats) which they also used to entertain the latter. Because they work close to Saruwaka-cho, they were sometimes placed in the same category. 

(reference: JP / EN) 

Coincidentally, I found out about the existence of a kabuki actor named Sawamura Hyakunosuke (澤村 百之助) (1857 – 1899) who used to perform for one of the kabuki theaters of Saruwaka-cho (1, 2). 

Also, while I was watching the OVA of the Battle in Barato Arc (chapter 56 – 59), I heard Hijikata call Ogata “Yagura ni iru Yatsu”, the “man in the [watch]tower”.  

So, while Noda may not have implied on purpose, I like to believe that Ogata Tome used to be a Saruwaka-cho / Yagurashita Geisha.

[buttsmgutts]

[shipshinablog]

[goldenkamuyhunting]

I found your post mentioning the possibility of Ogata working as a geisha if he had been born female (…com/post/176037618768/). As a result, I couldn't help but wonder how much her life would differ from his. (I’m surprise nobody had made fan content about such scenario before.) What do you think?

I had to go check the post because I couldn't remember it...

and here it is:

"A geisha wouldn’t permanently stop working because she had a baby. Ogata isn’t a little girl who can become a geisha so it would be fine if his grandmother were to come take HIM away, but she doesn’t need to bring home his mom as well."

Honestly I wasn't wondering what would be if Ogata were a female, it was more an observation on the fate of geisha's daughters... and, in truth, it would have been possible for Ogata to remain with Tome even as a boy.

In fact for example geisha's kimono are so tight that they requires a male helper, to help the geisha put them on and tightly knot the fabric in the back... so Geisha's sons could remain there and become helpers who do this and other jobs that were more fitting for a male, though this wasn't as likely as it was for daughters, so it would have made sense for Tome to send Ogata away.

If Tome had a daughter instead than Ogata, of course her life would have been seriously different from his own as back then expectations on boys and girls were pretty different.

Honestly it would probably make her a character completely different, not just genetically but also character-wise due to a radically different upbringing, resulting her into being another, completely different, character, if done realistically.

So I guess it probably doesn't get explored much because she would basically be an OOC.

Now, I don't know why people do something or not but, as a general line, fans rarely have interest in OOC characters so this might be why people don't explore this venue.

As for how the life of Tome's daughter would be... well, it would be the same as the one of a geisha's daughter, in short the same as her mother with the plus she was born in the okiya so she'll adapt to it a lot more easily and would view the people in it as her family a lor more easily.

She would clearly have zero expectations on Hanazawa as she would know it was foolish from her mother to expect more of him and that he would surely not come from her or his daughter.

Hanazawa might have been interested in his male firstborn but a daughter... that's something that would likely not interest him at all.

No one would consider giving her a rifle and letting her try shooting at ducks.

At 15 she would have started as Maiko (geisha's apprendice) and would become a 'full-fledged Geisha' around the ages of 20 to 22.

If you're curious for more I would recommend reading something about geisha in that time period. It's interesting... but they lead a life that's very, very different from the one a boy would lead both in education and expectation so really, Tome's daughter would have likely not have anything in common with Ogata beyond the birth parents.

Sorry, I fear this wasn't the answer you were hoping for and I guess people can think differently from me so just take this for what it is, my two cents. Thank you for your ask!

[miceysfandomcreations]

A Quick Little HC about Ogata Tome

Tome had her good and bad mental health days. On more lucid days, she played games and walked with her son. She spoke of places and experiences in Tokyo unrelated to Hanazawa. On those days, she could almost be convinced that Hanazawa wouldn't come back for her. Then a night would pass, and her parents would have to start all over again.

Those good days got rarer as her son grew up.

[yuusakuhanazawashole]

Do y'all think Hiro knew about Kojiro's affair at the time or nah

[3cosmicfrogs]

MY MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL

[bowlinggwithmargo]

Delmore Schwartz, from “Baudelaire” x Golden Kamuy x 尾形留 收 by harribal

A letter, not yet finished.

[every-ogata]

Now that it's starting to drop, Im going to be unwell about these next few panels.

I love how into it Ogata gets during his lie. He's this emotionless guy most of the time; the biggest emotions we see on his face are either shock or that smarmy smile. I think the time he ever emoted the most up to this point is that soulless smile he gives his father when he curses the day he was born.

But this chapter, for some reason, he's actually getting emotional. He's furrowing his eyebrows, he's feigning distress, he gets this almost wistful smile on his face. He's blushing! All while talking about Sugimoto's devotion to whoever the love of his life is. It seems odd, even though we know he's lying. And then he tells the best part of the lie.

The woman is named Tome.

We know that's not her name. The woman he loved is Umeko. So where does this name even come from? Well, Noda dropped in the fanbook that the name belongs to his mother. Suddenly the whole thing becomes heartbreaking.

I like to think that Ogata got so caught up in his lie it became a reality for him. He has to think on the spot and the first thing that comes to mind is his mom. That Tome was cared for, that the man who loved her literally risked everything all for her well being. That, just for a moment, his mother was loved and he didn't come from two parents who lacked love.

The illusion is broken when he mentioned anko nabe, and he's reminded again that this is a lie. All emotion is gone from his face again and so is the blush. He's once again a broken person. A broken person who needs to get the gold by any means possible. Of course, he'll allow himself a little indulgence and get the girl he akins to Yuusaku to admit she's a broken person too.

This moment in this chapter is what made me realise how tragic he is. Cause all this nonsense started with a kid who just wanted his mom to have her reunion with his father once more, even if it meant her death.

[hinnahinnaoripa]

“Arms, like rivers, can either cradle life gently within their currents or carve deep scars upon the land they touch”

[yamcat]

taste the sweet apple

a hirotome homage and little present for my dearest @saltedpin , inspired by her breathtakingly beautiful fic Cut the sweet apple, which I warmly recommend reading, even if you don't have any previous knowledge of the characters.

[pinkpabli]

Mama. Poison.