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My favorite Svsss fanfic trope is when svsss native characters get to interact with system
For us the concepts of a system is intuitive even if you aren't familiar with this trope. But for from characters' perspective? System is so... Eldritch
Like, they have their gods, spirits, heavenly demons etc and there must be something overworldly about them. But system? System is something else
Even gods usually look like humans. System tho? It's usually described as a floating glowing blue rectangle words on it. It speaks in a weird monotonous voice with no life in it. It communicates using strange vocabulary that obviously means something but is absolutely incomprehensible. It's can change reality. I think it made Skinner demon stupid??
SYSTEM IS SO WEIRD
#svsss#my post#svsss system#scum villian's self saving system#I think that system is such a interesting concept and I'm low key happy that it wasn't explained in a novel#System exists and that's it
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#united healthcare#fuck ceos#anti capitalism#brian thompson#billionaires should not exist#uhc ceo#us health system
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big fan of this guy!!!
#svsss#shen qingqiu#scum villian self saving system#danmei#hi i suddenly remembered tumblr exists#sorry for the inactivity#and thank you for the support always
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Luo Bingge who searches for his kind Shizun ends up in a strange version of his own universe where he (yet?) does not exist
However, there is the kind Shizun there. He is not Shen Qingqiu, but he is very similar to him —same eyes, similar facial features; perhaps some kind of close blood connection? Luo Binghe is dying of curiosity to find out— and GENUINELY kind, warm, a rogue cultivator that helps both mortals and demons. Everything would be perfect for Luo Binghe; he doesn't exist in that world, there's another, rather absent Demon Emperor hanging around. His existence is a blank slate with no reputation or horrors, and he can simply walk up and win over his kind and gentle Shizun.
Except for the fact that his gentle Shizun actually SEEMS to know him even if that's impossible. The way he reacts when Luo Binghe introduces himself by name is not normal, which makes Luo Binghe frustrated. What exactly is going on?
And also except that his kind Shizun has adopted two slave kids, who are now his spoiled children. And if Luo Binghe had the slightest intention of reaching his Shizun's heart by being kind to his children, all his plans go down the drain when those Yue Qi and Xiao Jiu prove that Luo Binghe is not at all welcome to court their Baba.
#svsss#svsss ideas#svsss au#mxtx svsss#scum villain's self saving system#luo binghe#shen yuan#original luo binghe#yue qinyuan#shen jiu#sy: you're not supposed to EXIST YET#lbg: you're not supposed to KNOW ME#tianlang-jun is over there just messing around#poor shen yuan believing that he has a few long years of plot and backstory until the protagonist#why is he suddenly at his door??? why adult and black lotus??? shen yuan wants a refund
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Shen Qingqiu was doomed.
He stood still, fluttering his fan nervously and trying to avoid catching his counterpart's, the real Shen Qingqiu, glaring eyes from across the room. Instead, he idly observed the other Cang Qiong Mountain Peak Lords, trying to spot the differences between the ones he knew and their alternates.
Liu Qingge had brought back a strange artifact from one of his hunts to the monthly Peak Lord meeting. It was a mirror, rimmed an ugly tarnished gold, topped with a decoration that was shaped into an unidentifiable creature with ruby red eyes.
[Important Artifact Detected: Red-Eyed Sphinx's Mirror! Quest starting...]
Shen Qingqiu had been trying to remember where it might have appeared in PIDW when the surface of the mirror suddenly began to glow a dull yellow. It quickly brightened until it obscured everyone's vision.
And then, there stood another set of peak lords across the room, facing them down.
System, what on earth is going on???
[Quest started: Lost Long Spirit in My Reflection! Other characters have been transported to this universe. Host must find a way to send them back without revealing his identity as a transmigrator.]
WTF? I didn't agree to this!
[Good luck!]
System??? Get back here!
While the two Yue Qingyuans and Xu Qinglis conversed together to try to understand what had happened, the other peak lords had begun to mingle with each other, curious about their counterparts.
Shen Qingqiu tried to suppress his panic, sticking close to Shang Qinghua. His Yue Qingyuan occasionally flicked his softened gaze towards the alternate Shen Qingqiu, likely noticing that the other still acted as he used to before his qi deviation. In fact, several of the peak lords he had gotten to know over the years were sending some looks at the other Shen Qingqiu.
With the original goods right there, how long would it be before something exposed him as a fraud?? What if he was confronted about why he acted so differently?
[Host must avoid having his identity exposed. Being revealed as a transmigrator will result in Host being immediately sent back to his old body.]
Yeah, yeah, same shit as always!
Looking to his side, Shang Qinghua seemed to be experiencing the same threats, desperately looking away from the more dead-eyed Shang Qinghua across the room who, luckily, was barely paying him any attention.
Fuck, what do we do?
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Shen Qingqiu continued to glare at the Other Shen Qingqiu in the room. The other Shen Qingqiu was so obviously a fraud, he could tell within minutes of being here. While his alternate seemed somewhat familiar, he didn't act like him at all, his mannerisms were all off, and despite the attempt at keeping a poker face, Shen Qingqiu could tell that he was nervous. Probably at being caught out.
His alternate self had likely been replaced with a bodysnatcher or some sort of spirt, if they truly were supposed to be the same person. Was everyone else stupid, or had they had their brains sucked out by a Heart Mouthed Lobster-Squid?
Or maybe they simply like the bodysnatcher better and didn't bother to investigate.
Shen Qingqiu's face became stormier, turning his glare to the Other Yue Qingyuan, wondering if he had felt happier once his precious Xiao-Jiu had vanished. The other Yue Qingyuan's face grew even more pathetic. Tch. Typical.
"That stupid System--" Shen Qingqiu nearly snapped his neck in looking at the bodysnatcher upon hearing his murmur. The fraud, upon noticing his sudden attention, clammed back up and looked away. But Shen Qingqiu knew what he heard.
Xi Tong.
He hadn't heard those words in years, not since--
He stepped forward, scanning the other once more. Upon a second, more thorough look, Shen Qingqiu realized that he grew more familiar. He wore his hair in the way that Shen Qingqiu wore it, but looser and less severe. His eyes were clearer and lighter, with hints of a smile, despite his nerves. He occasionally quickly glanced up and to his left, as if seeing something there, before bringing his attention back to the room at large.
No. It couldn't be. He was long dead, despite Shen Qingqiu's best efforts. Even if the fake had some similar things about him, that doesn't mean--
Shen Jiu had once had a brother, besides Qi-ge. Slightly smaller than him, despite the fact that Shen Jiu passed him along as much food as he could when on the streets. He smiled so much despite their circumstances, and was so kind despite Shen Jiu constantly telling him that he was making himself a target. But he looked so, so similar to Shen Jiu himself. They could have switched their clothes and looked exactly the same, if one didn't notice the difference in their demeanors.
His brother has also always been a little odd, talking to himself and arguing with an imaginary friend that only he could see named Xi Tong. One of the reasons that they survived as long as they did on the streets was due to the inexplicable knowledge that his brother seemed to have. Somehow, his brother knew about the various plants or small animals that they could hunt and sell for a pretty coin in the markets. Shen Jiu never asked, not looking a gift horse in the mouth.
But his brother was dead. He had died years ago, in the time during when they were in Qiu's manor. During a punishment for Shen Jiu's attempt to get them both to join Wu Yanzi; he had switched their clothes and taken Shen Jiu's place and died for it. That had been the final catalyst that made him set the manor ablaze and escape, mourning his brother's death as his fault for daring to be free. Cursing Qi-ge for not coming back for them.
Dazed and his vision dim, Shen Jiu took another step forward, and another. Hope, something he thought he had killed off long ago, slowly rose in his chest.
Had his brother survived in this world? Had he managed to escape alongside Shen Jiu? Or had Shen Jiu died in his place? Dimly, he can't help but think that the world would be far kinder if that were the case. If his brother had made it to Cang Qiong Mountain and became a peak lord all on his own and still managed to keep his smile. If he didn't have Shen Jiu dragging him down with him.
The other Shen Qingqiu, not having noticed his approach, laughed at something the other Shang Qinghua said ("Wonder if Shang Qinghua is a traitor here, too," Shen Jiu thought dimly). His laugh was the same. He rose his fan to hide his face, but Shen Jiu noticed how his nose crinkled, and his eyes nearly closed in delight, exactly like--
"A-Yuan?"
#Xu Qingli is peak lord of artifact refining and from Grand Unified Theory of Shen Qingqiu btw#mxtx svsss#shang qinghua#shen qingqiu#shen yuan#svsss#original shen qingqiu#shen jiu#airplane shooting towards the sky#peerless cucumber#scumbag self saving system#parallel universe#parallel world#shen twins#shen brothers#qiu jianluo#Shen Yuan and Shen Jiu are brothers in the parallel world but Shen Yuan is dead#I like to let Shen Jiu have a spark of happiness#Maybe that's why he's like this who knows#me when I encounter my dead brother in another universe#Shen Yuan is gonna have a tough time trying to not reveal that he is neither a transmigrator#nor this guy's dead brother#he can't win#I wonder what Alternate Yue Qingyuan is thinking#I wonder what the peak lords we know are thinking#did Shen Yuan exist in this universe? idk maybe
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Shang Qinghua: So you slept with a corpse
Luo Binghe: Yep!
Shang Qinghua: And you raised the dead and caressed the bodies of corpses
Wei Wuxian: Well when you say it like that...
Shang Qinghua: And your husband is literally a ghost
Xie Lian: He is <3
Shang Qinghua: ...
Shang Qinghua, to Mobei-Jun: Are we the only couple with no necrophilic implications?
#sqh judging everyone: yall disgust me#sqq: i'm 90% sure you wrote everyone here into existence!#shang qinghua#airplane shooting towards the sky#mobei jun#luo binghe#shen qingqiu#shen yuan#wei wuxian#wei ying#lan wangji#lan zhan#xie lian#hua cheng#san lang#moshang#bingqiu#wangxian#hualian#mxtx#svsss#scum villain self saving system#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#the untamed#tgcf#tian guan ci fu#heaven official's blessing
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"well it's obvious this person is faking being part of a system LOOK! the way they draw one of their alters is super similar to an old OC they had!!" hey man so. I don't really know how to explain this to you but the way the brain works. is that anything your brain creates. FOR EXAMPLE an ENTIRE INDIVIDUAL. will usually draw from things YOU PERSONALLY KNOW. and that are PERSONALLY SIGNIFICANT TO YOU IN SOME WAY. "why doesn't this so-called system have a 30 year old bricklayer called bob in their system" that person is a queer teenager heavily invested in the alt fashion community. bricklayer bob is not in any way relevant to this person's life. why would their brain form an individual like that when it is not significant at all to this persons experiences or memories. shut up shut up shut up stop making the lives of traumatised strangers harder I'll EAT YOU
#syscourse#SORRY. I'M MAD. people who have no experience or understanding of osdd or did will scoff and berate and make fun of systems#for just. being ? for just being????? you people can be so malicious. I'm so tired. stop trying to sleuth out people's entire existences#for some of us. it took us MMMONTHS to realise. but quite a few of us formed from childhood friends I used to have#and some of us formed from a fictional friend group I designed when I was 13 and devastatingly lonely. like.#NOT ALWAYS but headmates USUALLY contain facets of important things from your experiences and memories and likes#sunny looks the way she does because that's how I used to draw the character of sun before she formed. it's just how brains work#it's not people 'picking and choosing' it's not people trying to be 'special' it's literally just. how brains. work. it's not like#you generate 10 random traits from everyone on earth and pull a lever.#rant#also this post DOES lack nuance but I can talk more about that if people act stupid on this post#headmates CAN form from no discernable thing. and people CAN have 30 year old bricklayer bob headmates#one guy from my system is literally 40 and a botanist. and BLOND. and CISGENDER. NO clue why he is the way he is#also the bricklayer bob thing is from r/fakedisordercringe. they unironically used it a LOT to fakeclaim people. I hate that place
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Following an accident, Danny wakes up in Gotham City in a DC universe. Lacking any forms of ID or possessions beyond the clothes on his back, he’s forced to commit some crimes to survive. Minor crimes, but still.
And then he gets caught.
During the court proceedings, they come to the mistaken conclusion that he’s a Meta suffering from some psychiatric issues such as Cotard’s Syndrome (a real rare condition where a person holds the delusional belief that they’re dead/don’t exist/etc).
Thus, between his “need for mental treatment” and the concerns about housing someone with his unique physical traits, he is sentenced to spend time in Arkham Asylum. He’s under pretty low security aside from the anti-Meta stuff and has more freedoms than some other inmates, but it’s still not a great experience. Even at the best of times, Arkham is hardly a nice place.
Some of his fellow residents are decently chill all things considered, but lots very much aren’t.
#dp x dc#dpxdc#dc x dp#dcxdp#danny phantom x dc#danny phantom x dc crossover#danny fenton in gotham city#just gonna slightly sidestep any questions about how the containment systems work or why “genuinely a ghost” is so unbelievable#i wanted to put Danny in Arkham so for whatever reason It Just Works#maybe danny had a bit of anti-ghost tech with him that they reverse engineered#or maybe something already existing in DC works#and as for the “dead” part… maybe his halfa/Realms nature is too unique so they assume he must be wrong about being ghostly? idk#also i think this’d be a good opportunity for a dpxdc fic to explore non-woobified versions of the rogues#like. where they aren’t watered down to be completely chill and barely criminals#e.g. yeah Poison Ivy cares for the environment and has protected kids but she’s still a terrorist who’s killed and mind controlled people#Or Killer Croc who is very much a victim of abuse/hate for his appearance but has also still attacked people and engaged in cannibalism#They’re not complete monsters but they’re not wholly innocent either#The story idea takes place in a mental hospital for (mostly) criminals! Let them have done genuinely bad things even if they’re improving!
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I love thinking about how a Shen Yuan reveal would go from Luo Binghe's perspective, maybe even especially in cases where Binghe doesn't actually get to see Shen Yuan's world or understand it very well.
Imagine finding out that your husband is some kind of interdimensional alien spirit/angel who saw your fate and got so upset about it that he died. Then he came to your world, even though he didn't know that was possible, but since it was he immediately set about making your life less shitty and trying to change your fate. Except he couldn't change all of your fate because some kind of godlike being, the same one that brought him here, didn't want to let him. He's haunted by the fact that he couldn't figure out better ways to help you. He never expected any of his regard to be reciprocated, either, in fact he assumed you'd hate him. You never had to convince him to love you or respect you. He has always loved and respected you. There's basically nothing you can do to lose that love and respect either, because the first version of you that he even knew about was your edgelord comphet idiot mirror universe counterpart.
The bar has been at the earth's crust this entire time.
The fluffy parts of this reveal are obviously good, but I also think Luo Binghe deserves to know just how fully terrible his husband's judgment is. Also that Shizun has been dying for him since before they even met.
I think it'd be fun how often that would probably keep him awake at night, quietly trying not to have a crisis over the fact that his husband has made an honest to god habit of dying for him.
#svsss#bingqiu#shen yuan#scum villain's self saving system#scum villain#shen yuan 🤝 hua cheng: unhinged fanboy devotion to some questionable weirdo who doesn't even know you exist yet#also shen yuan 🤝 hua cheng 🤝 wei wuxian: dying more than the normal amount of times
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*peering down at my own genetic sequence* uh-huh uh-huh bold choice bold fucking choices my friend
#and i don't have veto power over any of this? that Cannot be correct information#there must surely exist an Appeal Process or#*me discovering how any of reality's systems function* this can not POSSIBLY be how this system functions#*scribbling furiously filling an entire college ruled notebook DOUBLE-SIDED with a list of design flaws to present to the court*
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On autonomy, and what it means to be Obliged to Help.
Bonus:
#a homestuck walks into an antechamber and asks#hey is anybody going to make this dynamic wholly deterministic and thus dubiously consensual by its very nature#ANYWAY bigger ramble below. scroll down like usual#isat spoilers#isat#isat fanart#isat siffrin#isat loop#sifloop#THATS RIGHT WE'RE STILL SHIP TAGGING IT BABYYYY#in stars and time#in stars and time fanart#lucabyteart#RAMBLE START: anyway i think loop is wrong here. they have it backwards. as-- in my opinion--#the main reason they could be called back into existence postcanon is because *their* wish for help is still not complete#they still need help. siffrin still needs help. neither of them will ever stop needing help.#they will thus uphold the wish until the end of siffrin's natural lifespan.#that said. what does it mean that loop can be so wholly forced to abide by siffrin's wants?#(assuming the dagger cutscene posession is them being forced to uphold the 'help siffrin' wish via harsh universe logic)#[as opposed to something capricious and cruel the change god did. which feels out of character for the change god to me?]#much like how the island wish and duplicate objects are neutered by simply sliding off people's brains...#is loop subtly ushered toward their wish? obviously it's not a full override (see: the bossfight). but is there any interference?#and if so. so what? does it matter? if they don't notice? is it even real if they don't notice?#and even if they do notice. the universe leads we follow. how much do either of them value their free will in a belief system like that?#the whole game is dedicated to siffrin habitually NOT excersizing his free will. doing things the same Every Time.#Loop ESPECIALLY does this. predetermined predetermined predetermined even in the FACE OF CHANGE. REFUSING. ANY CHOICE.#Maybe they'd even be comforted by having a universe-ordained purpose even if it is subservient. even if its to Him.#(though. i can't see siffrin enjoying the idea that someone is subservient TO them... then all their suffering is his fault...)#loop got into this mess via WANTING too much. no more free will. can't be trusted with it. take it away from them.#but yeah. gets my greasy detective pony hands all over this. and everyone please do remember i like to make characters Outright Wrong A Lot
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disciples ₊˚⊹ ᰔ
all of them lined up under the cut!

#scumbag system#svsss#ren zha fanpai zijiu xitong#scum villian self saving system#gongyi xiao#ning yingying#yang yuxian#liu mingyan#can u tell gongyi xiao was the last one i did and liu mingyan was the first . LMFAO#yatchuart#i love the disciples!!!#i just wanted to do a cool lineup tbh also Yeah luo binghe is Excluded So what.....#hes a married man now he doesnt count#theyre all actually heavily inspired from pre existing character poses except gongyi! if anyone was curious#ok#you will not see me until after midterms i sacrificed studyig for this.. wish me luck&goodnight.....
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#hunter biden has the opportunity to do something really funny right now#fuck ceos#united healthcare#fuck corporate greed#brian thompson#fuck elon musk#simpsons meme#billionaires should not exist#ceomindset#us health system
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Watching this again, it becomes incredibly clear in s3 that Nate is teaching Parker how to run her own crew. He fully anticipates that she will be his legacy, and more than anyone else---more than Sophie or Hardison, more than Eliot (though I would argue that Eliot never even slightly wanted it)---he is teaching her how to take over, think like he thinks and plan like he plans. He fumbles some of the emotional stuff, never actually tells her explicitly...but by the time you reach s3 he's clearly all-in. He's decided. Parker is going to be Nate 2.0, with different more exciting bugs than the 1.0 version.
#there's a handful of scenes in subsequent episodes where it's the two of them standing in the control room#and poring over schematics and documents#discussing between them how to move chess pieces around the board. it's subtle but it stands out.#(aftshadowing? I guess? not sure what foreshadowing is when the shadows didn't exist at the time.)#anyway I'm just fascinated by nate and parker. two people who are different in every way except#their weird. it vibrates at the same frequency.#they like art but mostly for non-artistic reasons. they think a lot about insurance plans and security systems.#they don't....really understand people except the 3-4 humans that are sometimes okay.#they both go weak the moment you introduce a child to the mix - but it also throws their alien strangeness in sharp relief.#anyway.#leverage
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go go demon gang
#also i love thinking art the dynamic between these three kjfnhkd#i think she hauling and binghe have the potential to be the most annoying and loud and bicker-y sibling pair to exist#and mobei jun has just grown accustomed to their shit so he stands mostly ignoring everything they say#but making sure they dont kill each other or accidentally die a gruesome death when theyre being competitive#they all like each other ok. they love each other ok. ok. ok.#scum villains self saving system#svsss#luo binghe#svsss fanart#sha hualing#mobei jun#人渣反派自救系统#mxtx
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Shen Qingqiu: Hey Airplane, stupid question, but mpreg doesn't exist in PIDW, right?
Shang Qinghua: ...
Shen Qingqiu: RIGHT?!
Shang Qinghua: Nah, I don't believe so
Shen Qingqiu, wiping his forehead: Phew, you had me for a moment there
A Week Later
Mu Qingfang: You are pregnant
Shen Qingqiu, stewing in rage: This is all Shang Qinghua's fault!
Mu Qingfang: ...Shang-Shixiong got you pregnant?
#sqq: so i keep randomly throwing up#sqh: i've read enough fanfiction to see where this is going#mpreg doesn't exist in PIDW bc it's very straight#SVSSS on the other hand...#does that mean that sqh wasn't technically lying?#no he absolutely was lying through his teeth#i also like to think that rumors of sqh impregnating sqq reaches the demon realm#demon: my lord it seems like advisor shang impregnated one of the peak lords#mbj breaking a table: it should've been me!#shang qinghua#airplane shooting towards the sky#shen qingqiu#shen yuan#cumplane#platonic cumplane#this is a bingqiu baby#this time...#mxtx#svsss#scum villian self saving system
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