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thenightshadowqueen · 9 months ago
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Top ten SFTH character couples
(in my biased opinion)
Okay, first of all I’m so sorry to anyone who followed me for anything other than Shoot from the Hip content; I swear I’ll put in more variety. Someday. (Also go check out Shoot from the Hip.) Second of all, I did not join Tumblr with the intention of making a bunch of lists, but they’re fun to write and people seem to enjoy them, so here goes.
10. Justin x the Beetroots MC (headcanon)
Listen, I do NOT condone the whole “if they’re bullying you, that means they like you” bullshit. That being said, years and years later, after both of them have grown as people, I think they could have a really sweet relationship, at least after they work through everything.
9. André Beetroot x Xavier (canon, somehow)
I kind of ship this in a joking way, but also kind of not? They make sense together in a really weird, fucked-up way, and I’m so here for it. (I cannot believe that they’ve canonically hooked up. Multiple times. I love AJ so much for giving us this.)
8. Andrew x Nigel (headcanon)
It’s so toxic. It’s so toxic, and I know that, and it would never be okay in real life, but some dark part of me is really fascinated by the possibilities. (I cannot emphasise enough how much I am intrigued by this in FICTION ONLY.)
7. Jack and Jackie (canon)
Complete turnaround from the last two, but these two are genuinely so sweet. I honestly don’t even have much to say about them, but I love them. So much.
6. François x Mimi (canon)
They are so toxic. They’re horrible people, and they only make each other worse. And I love it. (You know, making this list did make me worry about my mental health slightly. Just slightly.)
5. Toby x the meth wife (canon)
First of all, this is the gayest straight-presenting relationship I’ve ever seen, and I love it. (I totally headcanon them both as bi/pan/queer/etc., but that’s not the point of this post.) And honestly, they’re so supportive of each other. They’re, like, genuinely a healthy couple (in a SFTH play? Can you imagine?). They have so much love for each other, and I could talk about them all day, but I’m fairly sure no one needs that, so I’ll stop.
4. Andrews x Betruva (headcanon)
Listen, I might be a little biased because they’re new, but they kind of have everything I look for in a ship. They have millennia of history, which is always a good start. They’re ancient nemeses. They founded a church named after them both???? Honestly how much more gay can you get?
3. Esmerelda x the vampire slayer (canon)
I like to imagine that Esmeralda survived, and they fall in love, and they have to work through the trauma of the slayer (I think I saw the fanon name Samantha? But I’m not sure) trying to kill Esmeralda. There’s just so much angst potential, and oh, now I want to write a fanfic.
2. Bubba x Jeramiah (canon)
They’re a fucking classic, okay, and they’re a classic for a reason. They are the best gay cowboys, and I love them so much. I know I should have more to say, but I feel like it would just be incoherent screaming.
1. Derek x Titch (canon)
Listen, who else could it be? They are so fundamentally amazing. It’s a classic case of “he fell first, he fell harder” (even if we don’t get to see a lot of the “he fell harder” part, I believe it with all my heart). I love Titch working though his issues and learning to open up, and I love Derek being so helplessly in love with him. I love them so much, and they deserve the top spot.
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lemotmo · 2 months ago
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Just rewatched the episode and omg the kitchen scene. Absolute cinema. Eddie just walking in calmly seeing the groceries seeing buck and then realising buck is pissed about something. It's so married coded. How many times have i seen arguments like this. Starting off small innocuous and then the actual problem comes out. The tension the acting... just chefs kiss. How both are hurting and just want the other to hug them. The lighting the cinematography. Hands down one of my favourite scenes in the show if not one my favorite buddie scene.
Only wish they hadn't had Ryan do the move forward and point at buck thing. Only because all I see are bad takes and ammunition for that Fandom that it's ruining my experience. I know I know I should ignore them but when it comes to Eddie i can't help it😅. Also made me wonder how the GA took this as. A scene between 'bros'? Or actually intimate moment? Do they even understand Eddie's characterization?
Anyway I'm gonna go and watch it again. Need to feed this into my veins.
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I've combined these three asks, because they all touch upon a few topics I really wanted to talk about.
First of all, OH GOD YES! That scene was literal gold. It was soooo good! The acting was top notch, the direction and camera work were both amazing. Oliver was great as always and Ryan... well, that man has been showing us time and time again that he is one of the better actors on this show. They are all great, but that kitchen scene was on another level. I have rewatched it a billion times already! 😄
Both Buck and Eddie were at their most vulnerable in this scene. They wanted to show us that these two men KNOW each other through and through and even though they are hurting and grieving, they can still call each other out for their bullshit. It was like watching a married couple getting into a heated disagreement. Pure gold.
I'm also pretty sure the GA has caught on what is going on by now. 8x11 was very clear on the Buddie of it all. Then we had all those Facetime calls in 12 and 13. A lot of these people have been watching these kinds of procedurals for a very long time. 8x17 just made it more clear where this story is headed. They can see it coming.
Now for the discourse part of this reply:
I agree that it is VERY frustrating that some people have started using very loaded words, such as 'abuse' and 'assault', when it comes to Eddie's behaviour in the kitchen scene.
Especially because there is not an ounce of truth in any of their statements. In fact, most of these allegations are made because Eddie is clearly being set up as Buck's great big true love interest. And some fans do not agree with that, because they want Buck with someone else. So basically these 'abuse' or 'assault' claims are being made over a ship, which is frankly insane.
The way I look at it is that the majority of fans are extremely happy with the episode and especially this kitchen scene. But a small part of the 911 fandom have disliked and hated Eddie ever since BT happened. That hasn't changed. It never will, because Eddie is in the way of a plot device that used to be a racist and misogynistic bully. 🙄
And rereading that last sentence? Well, the fact that they keep stanning their own very problematic white man while openly hating on a half-Mexican man who had a short heated discussion with Buck? Tells me enough.
As for those few Buddie shippers/Buck stans who are also hating on Eddie? Pfff, again... nothing new, is it? Their precious Buckaroo needs to be protected at all times. Poor baby. 🙄
They refuse to let go of any of the arguments Buddie have ever had and where Eddie said something hurtful to Buck. I swear... the amount of times I still read about the whole 'You are exhausting' thing that Eddie once said SEASONS ago, is insane.
Why are people still stuck on that one line? Buck has long forgotten about that line, but some people still cling to it as some kind of misguided proof of abuse.
It's a dramatic TV-show! There will be drama between the characters! That's what makes these shows so interesting.
Buck is a grown man. He doesn't need coddling or babying. Having these kinds of confrontations and discussions will make him think and it will help his character evolve. There is no need to keep Buck into this 'oh poor baby' state of mind. Let him out!
Also, I don't think that any of these people yelling abuse know what they are talking about in the first place. Social media has really given a lot of people a skewed image of wat abuse really looks like.
Having a heated argument in the kitchen is NOT abuse. Using your finger to angrily point at someone is NOT abuse. Showing someone that you are also grieving and in pain? THAT IS NOT ABUSE!
It's frankly disturbing that people seem to have convinced themselves it is actual abuse, especially in a show that has shown us REAL abuse with the Maddie & Doug storyline.
If what happened in that kitchen between Eddie and Buck was abuse? My entire family, myself included, would be 'abusers'. I come from a passionate family and we have these kinds of arguments a lot. 😆 Half an hour later all is forgiven and forgotten again. 🤷‍♀️
Look, at the end of the day, there will always be unhappy people who will hate on Eddie for no reason whatsoever. It sucks, but it won't change.
I tend to ignore them and let them scream into the void. Block whenever I come across them.
Because you know what?
We all know the truth: Eddie is a wonderful man and Buck is lucky to have him in his life.
Oh and...
Buddie is going canon. Suck it up haters! 😌
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yingdu-lover · 6 months ago
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Vortex We Took Every Breath to Follow : Shiguang and Their Companionship Through Life and Beyond
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Hi, *awkward giggling*
First, a few words from me :
Even though I love engaging in fandom spaces and enjoy ship fanarts, fanfictions etc, till today my heart truly belongs to a very few ships. Shiguang is one of them. As long as one is not blinded by homophobic delusions, I enjoy discussing any kind of interpretation of my OTPs, be it 'Platonic', just friends™, romantic or whatever. But I have a fixed category (which very ironically is not quite fixed if you read the whole discussion) that fulfills my idea of true love.
for me, Love is a dialogic discourse with your existential other.
The terms I used are very loaded terms; 'dialogue' and 'other' come from the Bakhtinian philosophy of ethics, 'discourse' is a Foucauldian term and existentialism has a long postmodern and post-structuralist philosophical tradition. The reason I LOVE Link Click is because of their postmodern lens and the narratives of the characters, not only the protagonists fundamentally question what is the real purpose of life? Why do human bondings matter? The answers reside in the simplest vignette of everyday life. Grief, trauma, hope, memory, reconciliation, remembrance, love, family - these are the central themes of Link Click. Lu Guang and Cheng Xiaoshi's separate existence and their interpersonal dialogue thematically and structurally complements the main ethos of Link Click.
When asked about the nature of Shiguang relationship Director Li Haoling answered : 是生死之交咯! (Shì shēngsǐ zhī jiāo gē! - It's a life and death relationship!)
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Fate, mortality, death, remembrance are the building blocks of their relationship as we perceive it.
Now let me talk about something. When I first watched Link Click on September 17th, 2024, the first Intertexual connection I drew was with another text called Waiting for Godot by Samuel Beckett. Funnily enough, early in this year I wrote a crossover Hamlet adaptation (and won the second prize in a competition hehe) interweaving a few elements from Godot. Time loop, fragmentation of time and space, panopticon with no exit - all these elements featured in that. I recommend Waiting for Godot to you all, you'll understand why it resonates so much with Link Click.
Now,
Lu Guang is a person who is shown to be a character who has some mysterious powers to manipulate time and space. Even from the very beginning, he has this dominant (and sometimes seemingly monologic that feels problematic to new viewers) voice with which he guides Cheng Xiaoshi through the dives. He is apparently headstrong and has acquired all kinds of praises ™ like hypocrite, selfish (lol) and what not. Again quoting Li Haoling "Lu Guang is a complex and delicate character." But after the release of 'The Eye' and 'The Lull', I think we are pretty sure that Lu Guang has been trapped in a rewind, like a Sisyphus figure. A friend of mine told me the other day, "Superficially, Lu Guang is presented as an archetypal strategist, the one who guides, the one who keeps things in control, but in reality, he has no agency whatsoever." Lu Guang lacks the fundamental agency in life (we all do but we have to accept it one day or other) and that mortifying realisation comes to him with the death of Cheng Xiaoshi. What is unacceptable to him is the most obvious outcome of a mortal life : death. Lu Guang's tragic flaw stems from this unacceptability of Cheng Xiaoshi's death and him attempting to manipulate time, very Sisyphus of him. Till now, we are yet to see Lu Guang's character traits without any reference to Cheng Xiaoshi but this does not reduce his character depth. His denial is actually very delicious ( I almost wrote a paper on this, taking the popular sci-fi trope of time travel as an allegorical and symbolic means of resistance and subversion but anyway, it's not relevant here)
Lu Guang's character makes me fall in love with the song Flash by Gorilla Attack. It is from Lu Guang's character, no one can convince me otherwise.
Just a loop A bored 'n loop Should I do this now 'til the end? Into the story As just an extra You are the reason I live But you don't remember me? Oh, can I be with you?
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The only thing that I got, just like a little lamp I gotta go in one-way smoke Resist the lifeless scenario Become the person The person I wished for that day The room like a coffin, too bright A groove that I lost faraway Blanket, I need a blanket Not a synthetic one Notice the regret engraved so hard
And the line that keeps coming back as a haunting refrain :
Flash me, flash me Gotta get the power to rewrite I just wanna deny, I just wanna rewrite, yeah
Every time I listen to this song, these lines send a chill down my spine. But Lu Guang's obsession with 'rewrite' echoes with what my professor said to be Hamlet's constant meta-theatrical discomfort with the script, role, play he has been provided with. He does not comply with the playwright's words. Apart from time and death, I think Lu Guang's most wretched enemy is Li Haoling himself. That's why he constantly wants to 'rewrite', but all he has got till now is 'rewind'. Now whether his 'urge to rewrite' will turn into a successful 'write back' is the central play of the plot we are looking up to. What is my personal opinion on the ending?
The ending which is so dryly plausible in our real world is Lu Guang accepting his defeat and carries within him the remembrance of Cheng Xiaoshi.
But my question is, my brother in Buddhism Li Haoling, why the fuck would I watch your Link Click to know that death is the node that can't be changed? Is it not the given fact? It's a cultural text, however modern or postmodern a text might be, it ultimately uses the plot to defamiliarise and convey well known concepts and emotions with a critical engagement. A plot is just a vehicle, a crucial one, to help us have a greater and more nuanced vision of life. Due to non-linear narrative and active subversion of chronotope, complex plot will have plot twists and cliffhangers BUT it still has to perform a crucial, non negotiable role - the arc. If the beginning point and the ending point have the same temperaments, what kind of significance will it even achieve?
If Lu Guang can't write back at the end of Link Click, the structure of the plot will be like this :
1. Exposition, rising action : Cheng Xiaoshi died at the very beginning, Lu Guang is fucked.
2. Climactic stage : shit and shit and complex quantum physics, hallelujah hot villains, 'I am a great writer I can kill any character TeeeHeeeeHeeee', backstories, parallel narratives, foil characters have no relevance and rendered completely meaningless,
3. Falling action and resolution : Cheng Xiaoshi is still dead to the very ending, Lu Guang is still fucked.
No catharsis, not a milimeter of displacement from the beginning point.
What is the fucking point?! From the perspective of a writer and a critical reader, I can say it will be a sheer waste of money, time and potential. I would rather watch... whatever.
The friend I mentioned before told me, " You know why Emma or Chen Bin die? They had to die. Emma had a loving family, she got the job she wanted, she had her hardships but she didn't begin with tragedy. And when tragedy came, she was so not ready to negotiate the problem and considered self-annihilation as her first choice. She actively erased the possibility of dialogue with herself. If Emma were an orphan, struggling with unemployment and other hardships from the very beginning, I don't think Emma would die that easily. Emma was denied the conflict of life which very ironically tests human agency itself."
And for Chen Bin...during my first watch, the moment I saw him my instincts told me he was going to die. He had a loving wife, a daughter, he loved her, she accepted the proposal and they married soon. Conflict where? To bring his story to a full circle, he had to die.
I can say every parallel story in Link Click can be judged from this lens. People who had a point of conflict (the noodle lesbians, the couple who lost their child, Xu Shanshan, that old man) engaged in dialogue with themselves, others and social forces ultimately got a happy ending. Even in the earthquake episode, it's a story of reconciliation with the past, the man got his mother's photos and it's plausible and satisfying (and bittersweet resolution). He got his (absent) father back.
Another thing, we as a fandom have a collective amnesia about....*drumrolls* Cheng Xiaoshi's character! Congratulations! The man, the freaking protagonist just dies at the beginning, accepts his death, and remains dead. Doomed yaoi allegations are just nonsense. Link Click is doomed if Shiguang doesn't get a happy ending. Link Click is NOT a dramatic monologue told from Lu Guang's perspective, engaging with his perpetual trance of melancholy and him holding onto Cheng Xiaoshi's memento mori.
If Lu Guang is attempting to write back to Li Haoling and the doomed yaoi allegations, Cheng is attempting to write back to Lu Guang himself, not in confirming his own death, but saving Lu Guang from the loop of eternity and by being together. Cheng Xiaoshi is always seen to be guided by Lu Guang, he has to witness repercussions of his actions. Even with all this knowledge I will say, Cheng Xiaoshi has way more agency than Lu Guang has. During my first watch, I could feel Lu Guang has this barrier of guilt and unsettled emotions wrapped around him which denies Cheng Xiaoshi access into the deepest core of his subjectivity. Even though he achingly wishes to be together with Cheng Xiaoshi, the burden of his past actions and PTSD holds him back from being together with him, as if his existence is antithetical to Cheng Xiaoshi's existence. Cheng Xiaoshi is that glitch in the matrix that messes up Lu Guang's plans of withdrawing himself from Cheng Xiaoshi. Cheng Xiaoshi should not listen to everything Lu Guang orders. In season 1, he mostly conforms to Lu Guang's ideals, but in season 2, when Lu Guang was hospitalised, Cheng Xiaoshi became more active and you could tell a layer of barrier melted away. He was less of a stone statue, showed more emotions (the S2ep1 lmao when he said "would you prefer if I die?" abhimaan we call it), then the unique high five that feels like Lu Guang accepting Cheng Xiaoshi's proposal or something :
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(LMAO ignore my comments, but what I said is true)
My point is, Cheng Xiaoshi is Lu Guang's existential other and vice versa. They cannot live without each other. They cannot exist without each other. If one dies, the other will die and I want them living happily ever after in heaven. Cause 'Break' clearly depicts them as soulmates. I personally take Break as the ultimate canonical ending
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Do you see? each of them has one wing missing, meaning that it's their cumulative effort that will make them fly successfully. FYI, there is another Haoling directed, Haoliners Animation League animated canonical queer donghua called 'Beryl and Sapphire'. A separate episode, episode 13 just explores this 'one wing soulmate trope'.
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Now take them as friends, platonic friends with no erotic feelings, pure familial feelings or whatever, they are like Yin and Yang, like Shiv and Shakti, and Yin changes to Yang and Yang changes to Yin actively as they interact. You will have a hard time pointing out who is who. I have watched TGCF and Beryl and Sapphire and a tiny bit of Spiritpact - all three directed by Li Haoling and I am well aware of his narrative strategy to represent soulmates and Link Click seems to be the one of the greatest (and my favourite) product of that genius mind.
I began with team Lu Guang cause he is a scorpio, I understand him, his birthday almost coincides with mine, we share some identical issues. But the fandom's often yeeting Cheng Xiaoshi out of the narrative phenomenon brought back my due attention to him. Is Cheng Xiaoshi so willing to be doomed? Does he not yearn to be with Lu Guang? Let me whisper to your ear...he yearns for him too.
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does understand that the person who dies...dies, death affects them the least who dies, it's the people, the family and loved ones who actually suffer. This man will leave his Lu Guang on his own volition? eh.
Also I wanna talk about Link Click's strategy of deliberate misdirection. The first and second seasons are so deliberately crafted (manipulation of narrative you can say) to actively erase Lu Guang's subjectivity and nuance. We are just denied access his perspective. He is mysterious but not that aligns itself with a viewer's emotions. In fact, during my recent re-watch, I felt "wtf Lu Guang, why are you interacting with Cheng Xiaoshi like a straight dudebro?" He is a menace, the kind I usually don't like. But there also seemed to be a critical undercurrent which I couldn't really grasp, but it was surely there. It was adding up to my increasing discomfort and made me question - "was it just my wishful projection? they do not share that bond at all." I was so pissed at that thought that I almost decided I am not gonna abandon Link Click. BUT BRO, BRO
'The Eye' and 'Lull' just blew my mind. I was not that affected by Cheng Xiaoshi's corpse advertisement agenda (that corpse is drawing people's attention who is suddenly aware of Yingdu release, great tactic, Haoling) what pleasantly brought me out of despair is Lu Guang's love for Cheng Xiaoshi was acknowledged in these songs. You will read between the lines on your own in season 1 and season 2 if you have that critical method to engage with a cultural text, but the silencing narrative was also very prominent. I very much felt that the Shiguang story is actually the central action, and not the creative sci-fi archtexual exercise of genres, which again, is just the vehicle. But The Eye and Lull focus upon them, them and them. Their emotions are acknowledged, they are no longer behind the veils of symbolism, parallel narratives, intense defamiliarisation; their emotional dialogue now not only demands a voice of their own but also has the potential to reclaim the central part of the stage as they struggle and negotiate power and agency. And I am here for it.
@guangshi-091305 I present to you my rubbish.
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redcracklestan · 2 years ago
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Redcrackle ship analysis pt.1
As you can guess, i ship Redcrackle, and often, many people told me that I shouldn’t ship them for some reason.
Here I’m going to explain why it is totally ok to ship them (and why it is my favourite copule in the show).
What people told me about them is that they see each other as siblings, their age gap is too much, and that they never actually flirted with each other.
Like i did for carulia I’m gonna show y’all what i think of each of those topics.
They see each other as siblings
I think that it was oblivious that they SAW each other as siblings when they were still both at VILE, not anymore. You can clearly see this simply by the way they look at each other
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I have a brother, and we don’t look at each other like that, yk?
While they were still at VILE, they looked at each other very differently
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That is a brotherly look, while they were younger, but then you can clearly see that their dynamic changed, because they grew up, they changed and their feelings for each other changed too, it’s normal that way, and it’s always been that way. Their trope is really complicated, but their feelings for each other went like from best friends to lovers, and it’s not “problematic” as someone says, instead they have chemistry, they bonded as friends and they proceeded seeing each other as the sibling figure they never had since they were both orphans, and they ended up developing some romantics feeling once they both matured and aged.
Plus I realised reading some fics and just scrolling on the internet, that prolly Carmen only saw Gray as a big brother figure because she only had the “family” kind of love in her life since that moment. Maybe she had stronger feelings for him that she couldn’t classify because the only love she ever felt was for the faculty, which was more like a family to her, no romantic feelings involved. Then Graham came and she saw him as a big brother, as her found family, because it was the only love she was surrounded with for her whole life, and that then, she realised that she had some romantics feelings for him, once she grew up and experienced more in her life.
Their age gap is too much
Ok, in this fandom, there are people from all over the world, so everybody has a different opinion on this (for example, where i live, there are such bigger age gaps)
But you have to consider that they are only 2 years apart (Carmen is 20 and Gray is 22), and they’re both adults and consenting, so I can’t really see any problems with that.
They never actually flirted with each other
Apart from the fact that they, in fact, have flirted but people say that they didn’t because one of them was brainwashed during it, as we saw they showed their love for each other multiple times, in multiple scenes, in many different way (flirting is not the only way to show love).
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Bro risked his life to SAVE HER (I can’t put every time he did it because of the image limit)
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Bro was willing to be locked up in JAIL just to make sure that his gf got his memories back
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Bro was willing to never see her again just to give her the opportunity to start a new life.
Not mentioning the fact that when he was brainwashed, he went all way to New Zealand to help someone he barely knew, just to have a cup of coffee with her.
And I strongly believe that he hesitated on purpose on that train to Paris, he didn’t wanted to kill her, he knew damn well how to defend himself from someone holding a weapon on him (as we see in the scene with Devineaux when he got his memories back and he beats his ass) + he also knew very well that she couldn’t use the weapon because of the fingerprints activation, he had no reasons to hesitate like that, except one, the boy was so in love.
Also all the things that carmen did for him, every time she said goodbye to him for his own well-being (at the coffee, on the Himalayas), every time she saved him (at Dr.Bellum’s place, on the Himalayas).
Plus, they are literally red and blue lovers.
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LOOK! She is the literal definition of red. He is the literal definition of blue. If that is not a sign, guys, idk what it is.
Other than that, think about when they opened to each other about their pasts, when he told her that he didn’t wanted to hurt her even though they were enemies and basically any interaction they have, and like I said before, their eyes can talk 100%, it’s so clear. They are so cute. I love them. No one can change my mind.
They just have so much chemistry, parallels, and everything.
Concluding I wanna drop a bomb.
I honestly believe that if Gray was a girl, everyone would love him and the ship. They as a copule would be seen better from everybody on this fandom.
Ok, in the end, I only did 1 part, but maybe I’m gonna do some more? Idk, really. Anyway, sorry if i did any grammatical errors, but English isn’t my first language so…
I hope you enjoyed this “analysis” If we can call it that way, see you soon!
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darklinaforever · 1 year ago
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https://www.tumblr.com/darklinaforever/755917759191334912/i-always-wonder-what-exactly-the-accusation-about?source=share
There's nothing wrong with loving a couple of problematic couples. But you literally have ALL the couples like - pedophilia, violence against women, incest, zoophilia and so on. ALL of them. So yes, it's weird and creepy.
I've already explained why it's bullshit to say that I like ships specifically related to women being abused. I'm not going to bother repeating a post that you have obviously already read, proving to me that you have no form of understanding...
Literally, you repeating something I've already taken apart, specifically in this same post that I did and you fired me ! 😂
This level of stupidity is crazy...
Once again, if you think that Sessrin, Daemyra maybe for you, and Sareth are pedophilia you also have a problem understanding the subject through the historical context, and the importance of the symbolic...
Sebaciel is yet another story for me personally, see here :
And again, if you look at Planet of the Apes and see the apes involved as pure beasts /animals when they literally have human consciousness and talk, there is also a problem. Not only that but you also obviously didn't understand the message of this story.
Or maybe you're telling me about Catwin ? Which would be even more stupid...
And then, once again for incest, I still don't see how it's weird ?
Literally go after those who write these problematic romances instead of going after those who appreciate work that is supposed to be appreciated.
How loving an incestuous fictional romance is weird in 2024 ? It's fiction. Not reality. Do you understand the difference or not ?
Especially in a historical fantasy context where the question doesn't even really matter ?
And here I am talking about the Targaryens. Feudal context where incestuous unions were common and in addition this particular family has magical blood ? You need to relax a little.
As for Cesare & Lucrezia, once again it is literally the screenwriters who wrote this romance made to be appreciated and which in any case has either an open ending or an unhappy ending depending on the version ?
The incest trope is as old as enemies to lovers. Another form of prohibition for the spectator which stimulates interest.
Again, most of these ships are very very popular. So everyone who ships this is weird and creepy to you ?
Or is it more morally appropriate to love some and not others in your opinion ? Like, don't you have the right to like all these dynamics at the same time ? There's an appropriate number of problematic categories to like in fiction perhaps ?
Wtf what is this stupid logic ?
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Besides, liking this kind of problematic dynamic doesn't stop me from liking healthy dynamic. 😂
Literally, these are things that I have already more or less explained here :
But you make me want even more to ship problematic things, just to annoy you in your visibly meaningless life for enjoying coming to annoy me on a subject as stupid as judging me for liking fictional ships...
So... for a little free anecdote, I like the mother-son relationship between Paul and Jessica, but I admit that because of the chemistry of the actors I ship it a little. Hey, add that to the list of things that make me weird and creepy, it's a gift ! 😉😚
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Anyway, you really don't seem to be able to distinguish between fiction and reality anon. I advise you to cultivate yourself a little, it might help you.
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nsuyeula · 29 days ago
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A, C, G, T, V
Here we go boi's
A - Ships that you currently like a lot.
Obviously we have Shaunahat right up there at the moment - those two have me in the insanest chokehold known to mankind.
Before that though, I got smacked right in the face with the fact I was sleeping on Renora from RWBY after relistening to the entire soundtrack again when it returned to Spotify. Nora who has always confidently displayed her love growing to hate herself and Ren realises far to late that he loves her for everything she is, is just peak angst potential and I can't believe it took me four-five years after V8 aired to realise it.
C - A ship you have never liked and probably never will.
I'm pretty new to Yellowjackets so there isn't any relationship dynamic that is a hard no for me. All have potential to me and have an interesting element that's worth exploring.
Off the top of my head, I think one of the few ships I just never could bring myself to like is Keith and Lance from Voltron. Don't get me wrong, I consume the fanart bc some really great artists I adore made art for them. But to me they were always this really good rivalry to mutual respect to friendship dynamic and I never saw it as more then that, particularly when Lance had a canon romance with Allura and Shiro & Keith had a far more interesting history and dynamic imo. Final nail for me tho was the yelling of queerbating by some fans after the show ended. Obnoxious fans will put me off any ship, especially when they yell queerbating about a show with a canon queer character, because it's not the character or ship they specially wanted.
G - Have you ever had an OTP? If so, do you remember your first one? Who was in it?
This answer makes me cringe in shame, but also, these two are my roman empire. It's just hard to explain to people who've not played the entirety of the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy why Hope and Lightning aren't actually super problematic.
Bare with me bc this involves a lot of time travel nonsense.
Game One - Lightning is 21, Hope is 14. Whole mentor and student thing going on, helping one another heal from trauma and breaking out of their shells.
Game Two - Lightning is still 21 because she's trapped in the death realm protecting the goddess of death. Time doesn't exist there. Hope is 27 and is trying to save all of humanity in an attempt to save his friend and, by extension, Lightning.
Game Three - Lightning is still 21, was frozen in crystal for 500 years. Hope is 527 after the death realm and the real world merge, and was tortured for several decades / maybe a century or two by a God who specially makes him hallucinates Lightning to get him to break mentally and physically regress to his teen body in order to become a vessel for said God. In the end, after Lightning saves everyone's soul, Hope saves hers, and they are reborn into the new world, and the creator's confirm Hope gets his adult body back.
CAN YOU SEE WHY THIS GETS DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE FRANCHISE! Most these two's interactions happen when Hope is or looks 14. Unlike my teen self who didn't know better, I only ship Game 2 & 3 Hoperai nowadays. But what is even more funny is these two are treated like the offical couple for this entry in the Final Fantasy franchise (there is always one) by JP fans WHEN THERE IS ALREADY AN ACTUAL CANON ONE. That's the power of these two lmao.
T - Do you have any hard and fast headcanons that you will die defending? 
I'll stick to Yellowjackets for this one.
I fully believe that Shauna is suffering from Dissociation - specifically Depersonalization - even before she crashed out in the Wilderness and before she developed postpartum psychosis.
I headcanon she has a warped sense of self, very disconnected from her identity and emotions. Lives in a haze if you will. Her love and obsession with Jackie, her trying to become Jackie, and have what Jackie had was her way of masking her Depersonalization. Unable to connect with any identity of her own, Shauna took Jackie's and plastered it over herself to try and feel complete.
The postpartum psychosis and the rage it brings help Shauna break through the dissociation for a while, but when she returns to society, it takes over again, and that's how she ends up with Jeff.
Is it a little bit of projection bc I have a dissociative disorder? Maybe. But you cannot tell me Shauna wasn't suffering from some kind of complex metal health issue even before the crash, it's ingrained in her even before all the horrible trauma she goes through in the show.
V - Which character do you relate to most?
Kinda ties into the last question nicely - but Shauna.
She's someone who has never had no real identity, has suffered so much trauma, and finds herself falling into societal norms in an attempt to keep herself safe and wanted by people. Now, the trauma I've gone through is nothing compared to what's she's gone through, but I relate a lot to this idea of having this internal darkness you have to keep buried for the sake of those around you or for what is 'best'. It took me a long time to accept my Alters, and to accept their purpose in existing, but I have received a lot of pushback for their existance - especially from family - being told I need to manage my episodes better when they only happen when I'm pushed beyond my limit. A little too much TMI maybe, but just sorta offering insight into why I truly resonate with Shauna's character and can never villainse her the way others do.
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In my country they don't change anything. His wiki page is till Leighton only and thank god for that, she's awesome. She's one of this few exes that I actually like for who she is and not for the sole reason that they dated.
A long long time ago I checked AW's wiki profile and saw that she dated soo many guys (ofc only the popular ones are mentioned in wiki) but I found out that she also dated Chris Martin.
I am a big Seb fan but Chris is a literal gem!
Why would someone break up with him? The music they make literallly is soo nostalgic and helps through the stressful exam days, Coldplay helped me stop my overthinking etc etc.
The point is: If she couldn't stay for long with a guy like him, it's hard that she'd stay with Sebby. Because he's far more controversial and all. We need his 2016 ish era back. No controveries only wholesomeness. He gotta take a break from biopics and tryna make some fam friendly content. Again I like clean movies. No smut, no bs and clearly some laugh.
Fresh was again, problematic for me. It was a challenging project for him, but the blood and all- it scares the shit outta me. But apart from that it made me realise that the underlying motive of the movie was to tell that you gotta choose your partner carefully :0
I Tonya, was made at the time of marvel and all, and if I remember correctly in one of the interviews he said something that left the entire crew staring at him and Margot Robbie was just.....cringed I guess? And then he goes on to wonder why people don't want to participate.
The sole reason MCU paired Mackie with him was because he don't say any of the bs and in case he does, Mackie is always ready to divert the attention with his humor!
They made it look like Seb was a shy and introverted guy who couldn't speak and Mackie was the extroverted and funny one. But now's the time we realise the deeper truth!
I think of watching gossip girls after my exam season. do tell what's it like.
(I also like the diversity of this blog, another Seb blog which praises him a lot, and eventually became AW obsessed and shipping blog, doesn't address any of my asks when I ask them something politic given that they talked about shitty US politics multiple times, they avoid controversies regarding his movies, interviews etc. They are not cry babies who would defend him in Adrien vs Seb but clearly this type of behaviour is not appreciated by me. Yours is the only blog where I can find some peace)
I am really glad you feel comfortable here!
Fresh, for me, is one of his best projects. Mimi Cave tried to tell the story of women in that way... no matter how careful you think you are, you have to be extra careful because the society is not trying to help you after all. And yeah, choose your partner very carefully. I also loved the coloring and the way it was shot.
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Regarding a certain someone and their actions on social media, do you think idols need to be held accountable for what they repost/follow/like on social media? I think that for someone who often talks about how he stalks armytwt and sends ai and fanart to the other members etc, even trying to pretend to be a fan and start hate against himself shows that this person knows what they're doing, they know what goes on in the random and how his fans are particularly awful to his supposed soulmate. And yet all he does is feed into their delusions while twisting reality. Also the fact that he turns on lives at his members house without permission, shows the shaved head when the member was obviously hiding it, etc does he not realise how it makes him look when the behaviour is so consistent?
I think it depends on the situation and there should be limits. I don't agree nor like when fans are religiously keeping an eye on what kpop idols do on social media and pass judgement either without having the full picture or creating entire narratives from scratch.
But in this particular context, I find it impossible for the idol not to know how the ship he's part of is currently perceived. They all do, they are aware, there's no point in going over that again. Despite me believing that the first thing one does online is promote the brand and himself as being in poor taste, I don't think it is an actual problem. I don't think that it is actually that imperative to check the account, although when you have a social media following of 50 million, you also do have a responsibility. All public figures are media trained and they know what they're doing. They know that such an act can be then interpreted as promoting/endorsing or simply exposing. In this case it was enough for a shipper account to gain traction. I want to stress that it being a shipper account is not the issue, the issue is that it's an account that has embraced harmful fandom narratives that have been perpetuated for years and now it gets even more exposure if an actual subject of the ship is interacting with it. I think this is where some sort of responsibility is necessary. Talking about this under the illusion that it's only a ship/duo name is naive, when we are all aware what that group actually represents and advocates.
I also find it interesting how stans make sure to keep everyone in check, from big to small accounts, as to who they follow and interact. Not only that, it is so important that they tag and urge people to unfollow who they consider problematic. But all of a sudden, an idol is absolved of all that, he doesn't need to check beforehand, he has no responsibility, he doesn't know. Just as he didn't know how to use IG in 2021 as justification for accidently following his girlfriend.
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Skipped the day yesterday because my PC died, but I’ll try to write more replies today!
Starting with the ones related to our recently posted drawings~ But there are also some about twst characters and ships: Malleus, Riddle, Sebek/Jamil and many many more.
hipsterteller asked:
*sees Azul and Idia making out* welp someone better take a picture
I’m pretty sure Jade and Floyd are already on it. Maybe Ortho too, but for more wholesome reasons than the tweels…
hipsterteller asked:
Dang it Kalim…
He just HAD to ask Jamil to come back as soon as possible!
Anonymous asked:
~ 🎵 There goes the vizier hauling ass, like always 🎵 ~
Lmao thank you for the mental image of Jamil racing through the streets of Silk City in his big-ass robes. Looks like he forgot to get the food though... Maybe he and Kalim could have some fish for dinner?
You’re welcome~ Poor Jamil, getting food from the store isn’t even his job, but he was nice enough to go, and for what? To race right back through the streets of Silk City in his big-ass robes 😭
If Azul, Jade and Floyd didn’t bring them a pizza this time, they’ll have to have fish for dinner…
Anonymous asked:
Jamil is gonna murder these people, he doesn't care if he gets in trouble. That reminds me, does the...oh who am I kidding, of course they knew Jamil is acting like a snake by using Kalim again.
Jamil is so sick and tired of them, it’s been 30 seconds and he is already done LOL
They probably haven’t seen each other in quite some time, and Jamil isn’t planning on doing his subtle-Kalim-seduction thing in front of these three, but I have a feeling they’ll still notice that there is something going on between them. They know a snake when they see one…
Anonymous asked:
We seen the mafia Octavinelle often visiting Scalding Sands, but what about the Shrouds visiting there since they are often with the mafia?
Oh Ortho would love to visit, but he doesn’t usually get to go with the Octavinelle trio and stays by Idia’s side; and Idia probably hates the idea of visiting Scalding Sands, because it’s way too hot, and Kalim and Jamil are there, and Kalim is annoying and Jamil is scary, and the whole thing is going to be awkward, what is this really, a college reuinon? Yada-yada, mumbling Idia noises.
But still, they’ll visit them at least once. Even if Azul isn’t persuasive enough, Ortho’s puppy eyes are going to break Idia’s will for sure.
snowblub asked:
Whenever I see a post of yours and I know it's yours btw I look at what's there then forget I'm following you then go up to press follow and then realise that I do follow you. Short memory struggles... The amount of times this has happened is a bit embarrassing ngl.
But at least now you know that you got someone who would follow you a hundred times if possible?? I just thought to tell you.
AHHH This is so sweet of you?? Thank you so much. The fact that my drawings give you an urge to press follow despire already following is such an amazing thing to hear! <3 <3 <3
Anonymous asked:
I made the mistake of showing a newer friend your twitter account, I did warn them...😭😭😭
Like yes I like you BEACUSE your problematic, someone has to speak for us :(
~Anon &lt;3
Ohh, I hope you didn’t have a bad fight with them, Anon. Having arguments and even falling-outs with friends because of ship-related content is always unfortunate :(
We can only speak for ourselves, but if you feel seen/inspired by the fact that we have the audacity to post our problematic stuff, I’m very happy to hear that!! <3 Thank you for supporting us.
Anonymous asked:
I've also been thinking about how Malleus threw off the dom/sub radar, and I think it's funny if he throws off everyone else's radar too and even himself guesses whether others are doms/subs wrong like 90% of the time LOL that's how we got rollo & mal flirting with each other, both convinced the other is going to rail them later that night, only to be met with disappointment😔 it's okay boys, there are plenty of gargoyles in the sea....
Anon THIS! I COMPLETELY AGREE lol Especially with Rollo and Malleus; I don’t know if Rollo expected anything from Malleus (he was being a tsundere, that’s for sure), but Malleus clearly read the room in… his own way…
We like to joke that this happens because Malleus learned the art of flirting from Lilia.
Now I can’t stop imagining Malleus’ confused blinks when he learns about the dom/sub positioning of some of the couples.
Anonymous asked:
Do you think Epel would like Heathers?
I don't know, Anon, I think Epel wouldn't really get Heathers 😭 But he'll appreciate the fact that it's less "girly" and more intense.
Anonymous asked:
"azul is only hot when he's angry" anon here. i changed my mind. i saw the light. im a redeemed soul.
Ah Anon! It’s good to hear back from you and see that you are no longer a hater of Azul’s natural immeasurable sex appeal. I’m sure Azul would be very pleased to hear that (and sexy) <3
(But in all seriousness I do wonder what made you change your mind…)
Anonymous asked:
I don't know if he's ever expressed a desire to become one in canon, but occasionally I cone across fics and fanart that portray Riddle as a Prosecutor. Every time I end up imagining him as an Ace Attorney rival and then end up laughing because I picture Phoenix thinking 'I thought I was done with the Von Karmas.'
Anon, he fits the role of an Ace Attorney Prosecutor PERFECTLY, and he would be SUCH AN ANNOYING BITCH TO PLAY AGAISNT LOL We love Ace Attorney very much, so we also joke about Riddle being a prosecutor from time to time. I have at least one sketch related to this topic but we posted it on ko-fi.
Our go-to is usually to give Ace the Attorney role, not only because of his name, but also because him being confrontational with Riddle is always a fun thing to imagine.
Imagine Riddle’s angry sprites as a prosecutor… he’s even worse than some of the Von Karmas… at least he doesn’t use a whip I guess lol
Anonymous asked:
i saw this sebejami doujin on pixiv and Sebek is my favorite boy along with Ortho so, what do you think about their dynamic?
They’re intriguing! It’s always interesting when someone who isn’t Malleus gets Sebek’s kind-of-sort-of-approval (a very important achievement I know), and Jamil somehow managed to do it. Maybe it’s because he managed to sit through Sebek’s hours-long rant about Malleus’ grateness in that one vignette, but it honestly shows just how interestingly their personalities play based off each other. Jamil is constantly done with everyone’s bs, but he’s unfrotunately tolerant enough to take a passive role and listen. But he is also enough of a tease to enjoy Sebek’s “cute” and silly moments, like when he watched him almost fight a goat during the Glorious Masquerade event. So I feel like to him Sebek would be a massive pain in the ass (and let’s be honest, with Jamil – who isn’t?), but also have his surprisingly endearing moments.
But this is based on their interactions in the Glorious Masquerade event + that one vignette in which Jamil promised to listen to Sebek’s odes for Malleus lol
blackbutlerfandomnerddomain asked:
Do you have any headcanons of if it's revealed Lilia and Malleus are married or at least SHOULD be? Cause, again, the idea of Silver never questioning kisses and what not until NRC when they said I Love Yous and kissed in public and someone pointed it out is so funny to be
The thought has never occurred to me because to be honest, just like Silver, I never question anything that Lilia does lol
But I can picture some people from the NRC being confused about Lilia and Malleus’ relationship, because they’re definitely closer than just being friends… so while I’m not sure if they would think about them as a married couple(or who should get married), some people definitely think they’re banging lol
And Silver is very chill about it… if only these people knew the whole truth about Lilia’s relationship with both Silver and Malleus… marriage is the last thing that would come to their mind lol
blackbutlerfandomnerddomain asked:
Hot take: Deuce gives Jack boob-jobs aka when you put a boner between the pectorals aka breasts/boobs and either the person receiving would move against the chest or the one who's chest is being used would squeezed their chest together and bounce. Thank my cousin for this random headcanon, never needed to know this was a thing but here we are
This 100% should be a thing, and Deuce 100% should do that, because Jack deserves it!!
This also 100% wouldn’t be Jack’s idea, so… I’m looking at Deuce knowing that he has seen this before. What are you reading/watching in your free time, Deuce?
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kuschelkissen · 5 months ago
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ship ask meme: always been lowkey curious about the ginsherry in your blog header
Ask game
Ok, warning upfront for unhealthy relationship, problematic irl, etc.
Ship It
1. what made you ship it
The show itself: Gin recognising one single hair of her. The way he thinks of her naked. The way he praises her beauty on that rooftop. He gets all poet when he talks about her, like wtf. The german VA also sounds surprisingly soft when talking about her...
Like to me, this whole episode/scene felt like they absolutely had something going on at some point. And I guess that was also the plan originally? I couldn't find it while making this post, but there was this graphic with relationships pointed out and the line between these two was marked as "Love affair?" or something like that.
And when I went on a rewatch in 2019, and my gf saw this scene, she immediately turned to me asking "did they have a thing??", so... yeah.
2. What are your favorite things about the ship?
So, ngl, The potential for Drama™ 🤷‍♀️ The thought that they may have had something going on, maybe even something genuine, and then he killed her sister and destroyed that trust, out of ... fear (? not the right word, but I can't think of a better one right now?) of losing her (because Akemi wanted to buy their freedom) and therefore actively pushing her away from him. There is so much that can be said about a relationship like that.
I guess I also kinda like the thought that Sherry hasn't always been afraid of him. Like, sure, she had respect, but she was the head of the laboratory, so she was the boss there, so to say. I once wrote a short fic about Sherry making big bad Gin wear a lab coat. Because her place, her rules. We know how snappy Shiho is sometimes, sarcastic, etc. I would've liked to see that side of her/them, before she realised that he wouldn't shy away from killing her, despite everything they had.
3. Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship?
eh. There are enough unpopular opinions about the ship, so... nothing I'd say would be really unpopular, I guess xD
I think I would prefer it if Sherry was a bit older? Like. idk. When I first watched the show I didn't know for the longest time that she was supposed to be 18. She always seemed more mature than that, so I thought she was in her mid-twenties ^^'
(Then again, Aoyama literally said Gin's age is whatever we want it to be, lol)
So. Yeah. Definitely one of my more unhealthy ships, but well. It's an interesting dynamic either way.
If you wanna see what I imagine their relationship to be, go and read Broken Feathers. It manages to catch that pretty well.
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Could you please predict for me when we will be done with the meathead?
stoppp 💀💀 honestly I didn’t expect them to have lasted till now but also I fully expected that she’d end up marrying joe so what do I/anyone rlly know lmao 🤡🤡
Fully explained below but tl;dr - it’s either until the travis team (i legit forgot the name i know the colour is red or smthhhh) keeps winning the Super Bowl/maintains a relatively good reputation OR until Taylor gets bored of him and looks for another shiny toy to make a complete fool of herself over (so like by this time next year) OR they get married and ride off into the sunset towards some happily ever after.
Howeverrr just for funsies: the way I see it is by working backwards, starting with if I see them getting married, and honestly…based on ttpd, leaning towards yes. When they will get married I have no inkling and I don’t even feel like speculating cuz of all those gross pregnancy/marriage rumours going around 🤢 I think they’ll get married cuz:
their careers are such that they’re both lifting the other up when they show up for games/concerts, there is no conflict of interest (ie no competition) cuz of the vastly different fields they’re in. Also, he was more established than joe at the start of their r/ship which makes for a very rosy picturesque love story image which at least some part of Taylor desires (based on her interviews, the fearless/speak now eras) but she’s also become quite jaded (as per ttpd) so maybe she thinks this is the closest she’s going to get to it
i also think she’s in no rush to leave a r/ship this comfortable after her last 2 emotionally complex ones. Not saying this is good or bad of her; I do understand why she would want to take it easy now (and possibly forever) but given how little they seem to have in common, I don’t think she can find this r/ship as emotionally fulfilling as she would want with a life partner, so I don’t see them sticking it out forever. Ofc I could be wrong and maybe she’s changed, but based on her track record travis does not seem the type of person Taylor Swift would want to spend the rest of her life with (girlie was cringing so hard in the viva las vegas clip)
Possible triggers for the breakup and why:
She finds someone else to obsess over and for some weird reason…she suddenly realises what a temper travis has? And how aggressive he is?? Cue the breakup songs/album, swifties dig up That Clip and go omggg how did we not see this he was abusing mother 😢😢, rinse and repeat until she (hopefully) finds some self-worth NOT tied to a man
travis’ team starts losing the Super Bowl/not doing all that well in other competitions. I think the main reason swiftie are kind of sweeping his messed up tweets and behaviour under the rug is cuz they won. But what abt if/when they stop winning? All that’s left is a hot-tempered football player who isn’t even an “all-star” (am I using that term correctly?) and she’s not going to like being associated with that/have that tarnish her brand. I find it so absurdly hilarious but she would rather be seen as problematic (re: M*tty) than unsuccessful, so she’d prob drop him if this happened
very unlikely, but maybe she breaks up with him and enjoys being single for a while? No reason for thinking this tho
ngl as long as this reply is, im kind of apathetic cuz she’s changed so much recently that im becoming less and less invested in her. I’m not even rlly looking forward to rep tv despite it being such a formative album for me cuz that version/image of taylor has been sooo tarnished by recent events yk? So idc what she does, mostly cuz if I had her as an actual friend I’d cut her out of my life SO fast
again, the usual disclaimers apply, idk her/them or anything abt their relationship, I am literally just a girl sipping her ginger ale and watching this train wreck of whatever taylor swiftTM has become 🍹🍹
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fellow-traveller · 2 years ago
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A slight rant, I suppose. But it's more frustration than annoyance.
(under the cut because I don't want to spoil someone's day with this discourse)
I'm pretty much active in Twitter/X mainly because of the 1 Day 1 Hol Horse thing, but when I ventured deeper into the JoJo fandom, I realised the anti-proship discourse is just a huge WHY for me.
Like, why does this mess have to exist?
Why does one have the need to not interact with other fans in the same fandom, especially if they also share a similar preference?
Why can't everyone just like what they like, and leave what they don't, without harming actual fans, like sending death threats, trolling, doxxing, rallying hate etc?
To clarify, I've only known about this new definition of anti-proship about this year, when I got active again in the JoJo fandom. And it came to me in the form of being forced into a voting poll without my knowledge, and the fans that voted for or against my account labelled me a proshipper based on "problematic" fanarts from my Japanese friends and moots that I liked and shared.
It was the very first time I learnt what the bastardised definition of a proshipper is to these group of people.
Because during my anime/manga era, some good 20 years ago, proshipping basically means shipping whatever one likes and accepting that others may ship things one dislikes. We had terms like OTPs and NOTPs and BroTPs, and we use them freely to express love and acceptance, while also acknowledge what we prefer and what we don't.
Yes, there will occasionally be fans who will throw a tantrum about what others ship. They were the ones we call antishippers - the most intolerant of fans. They started ship wars, they send death threats, they doxx. They are the unhinged that most likely would kick a baby if given the opportunity.
Proshipper is actually a very positive word, and we love proshippers, because they're very tolerant, they work as middle men in ship wars, and by all things divine, most of them have really great artistic skills. Antishipper, nope, we don't want to be that. We hate that. We despise that.
But somehow the new generation seemed to shift the blame of all things bad on proshippers by changing the definition of it.
Depending on who you ask, proship could be a short to "proactive shipping", "professional shipping" or just "pro shipping" (as in pros and cons). All positive words. Now the new generation who most likely was never thought of how to explore fandoms at a young age, deemed proship as "problematic shipping".
The audacity to simply change the definition is palpable. Especially when I find out the kind of "problematic" things that they try to justify hating on.
Kids. Teens. Young adults. My dears.
Whatever "problematic" things you've seen in a fandom /ship /character now IS NOT NEW. It's not something that just happened to exist in a recent fandom to spite the younger gens. It has been there 20 years ago when I was underaged and older fans were making fanart of their favourites both "problematic" and not. Heck, probably way longer before for them as well.
If only you utilise some reading skills and maybe your library card, you can find the history of anime-manga was filled to the brim with "problematic" topics. It's a way of expression, it's a way of coping, it's a way of criticising certain factors like politics and people. Anime and manga has always been "problematic". That's a hard fact.
Virtue signaling especially if you're from the West is not gonna change that.
Also, I cannot stress it enough that fiction does not equate to reality. At best, it is an imitation of reality, in a form safe for consumption and indulgence that require no harm to real living beings. Once people can differentiate these, trust me, life will be so much easier.
While the definition of proship had seen a pretty twisted change, antiship didn't. They still did the same things, only now, the minors were dragged in.
Despite all, I won't deny there are absolute rotten eggs on both sides. There will definitely be proshippers who are so disturbing it scares even Junji Ito. There will also be antishippers who will do anything to spread more hate in the fandom, making it rather unlivable. And both sides have the capability to influence an attack on each other, or worse, take advantage of gullible, ill-informed fans, especially minors.
But if we stop lumping everyone into "proship dni" and "antis dni" lists, and openly, properly communicate and explore about likes and dislikes and preferences like old times, I'm sure complaints from antis like
"Why is this fanartist who draws / fan who like [insert ship] has to be a proship?"
"I like this fanartist's artwork but they are a proship, so now I can't see their stuff."
"There's not enough fanart of [insert ship/character]."
would be way, way less.
And I always wonder if these antis, who were mostly young teenagers of a sound mind, have a pending curiosity to explore something adult through fictional characters. Hence why, while they despise proshippers and anything not sfw, they still talk about it among themselves and draw lemony drawings, even to a detail I personally wouldn't share so openly. And why they still invade not sfw spaces even with a clear warning.
Because, I get that, I've been there, most likely as early as 12. Exploring sexuality is not wrong at that age, and it's already a correct method to use fiction for it.
But by pushing away people who had been there, who can actually help, is gonna continue making these antis be a hateful, intolerant bunch. And more easily influenced by actual real life predators.
And for the "proshippers", it's also pretty frustrating to see themselves being harrassed, blocked, and talked about behind their back from antis who never thought of maybe, just maybe, getting to know them first. Especially if they are not from the West.
So my advice to these antis and especially the antis who practically had no reason to be an anti, don't confine yourself into a small container and scream why it's too small. Fiction is there for you to explore reality and things that you can and will never do in real life. Exploring it is way better than suppressing yourself, as long as you know your own limits. Preference and discomfort are only evident if you communicate in a proper manner, not by bashing someone without them knowing and shift the blame of the discomfort you caused yourself on them when they had no intention to even present it to you.
We're in the same fandom. Sharing the same love for the same character and ships. I don't see why we should cut it down so meticulously just because one cannot separate fiction to reality.
As a pretty much seasoned anime-manga fan, especially in JoJo (I've been with the fandom since 2001, tbh), keep your mind open. Block and mute are always your friend if things get too overwhelming, but hatred shouldn't be the main motivator. Communication is key. If you want to know more, express your discomfort, discuss on characters / ships / fandoms...always communicate first. Never assume, never stab on the back. You might be surprised how helpful proshippers can be if you're just, for once, be nice.
That's all.
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blaisenova · 2 years ago
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uh oh, it's another fandom writer...
heyo!!
my name's blaise (he/him), i'm 22, and i am, regrettably, a writer. i am also, regrettably, going to make that everyone else's problem.
my current interests are: undertale and AUs, my original characters (L).
some fun little background: i've been writing seriously since i was in high school and have had my work published before! i was an english major in college to become a creative writer for a career before realising that i was absolutely going to kill my love for writing if i did that. so, i switched majors, dropped out, blah, blah, blah... now i'm an english major again. TAKE TWO BABYYYYYY. i still write frequently, and, if i can promise you nothing else, i can promise you good grammar LOL.
that said, i've decided to dedicate this blog to publishing my work and maybe taking some fun little requests for those of you that have excellent ideas but don't really want to write.
i tend to write anywhere between 1k to 10k words, though most of what i post here will probably be on the shorter side while the longer stuff will be linked on my ao3.
feel free to send requests!
before you do, though, please heed my boundaries listed below:
WILL WRITE:
angst, hurt/comfort (if your request contains triggering content that i'm not feeling at the moment, i reserve the right to deny!)
fluff
violence/gore
ship content (NOT proship. the ship must be legal and morally acceptable)
multiple characters
WON'T WRITE:
ANYTHING PROSHIP
18+ content (flirting and jokes are acceptable, within reason, but i will not be writing anything explicit)
problematic content (racism, homophobia, abuse, etc)
anything glorifying mental illness
x readers/self-inserts. i write exclusively in third person with characters that aren't directly tied to someone (unless you are my friend. hi ily friends), sorry
feel free to reach out if you just want to rant too. i need more friends into the shit i like </3
EXTRA
blog tags:
#blaise writes - my writing
#blaise draws - if i dare to post my art
#blaise rambles - when i have shit to say without writing it LOL
#blaise reblogs - my reblogs, i'll try to be sparse and keep on topic but please feel free to blacklist
my ao3:
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autumn-foxfire · 2 years ago
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The heck kind of leaks did I wake up to 😭 Catch me at 3am going nope nope do not- as I read about quirks evolving, also whats up with the world going to hell and Compress and Geten having a casual chat in prison saying they have plenty of time?? Geez, comedic duo I did not see coming. But bless: no phoenix quirk. But also: I dislike the dunking on Touya's narrative that makes him the masterpiece Endy always wanted. I pray fandom doesn't clown Endy for that because it would just be annoying. That's not the reason I wanted Touya's worth and life to be respected. And then the GETEN HIMURA, dammit. I was hoping the obvious fire/ice quirk wouldn't always lead to a family connection but here we are. These Todoroki's and their issues smh. I hope the memes and jokes about Japan being talked about as "entirely other" like one would consider the worldbuilding of a fantasy manga when considering culture isn't too bad out there. It's a real place, with real people living even in your country, and so many concepts are actually spread all over every asian country not just that. Hell, I've had hispanic friends tell me so as well. I say this because apparently some people are treating the concept of Touya being "first-born" and the weight it holds as "yeah just a thing Japan does" I get in this interconnected global world we like peering into other countries and cultures we don't understand and shrug it off like a strange other society far-removed from us, but I don't think people in the west realize how universal this is + the cousin marriage thing regardless of how squicky it is. I understand, but maybe tone down blowing up at other asians and shaming the entire concept in front of their faces? Some of those people might have their parents wanting them to get engaged to their cousin, or might know friends and family who are, and that kind of behavior when Geten is a DISTANT cousin, not even 2nd or 3rd or 4th with different lineages beyond the main family line is, kinda insane. You're absolutely free to find it problematic or even disturbing, I as an asian had that concern as well, just PSA to not over-react in a way that makes people familiar with those cultural practices feel bad. (also again....distant, Geten is so freaking distant. It's so trivial, if you find that disturbing, think of how someone marrying their 3rd or 4th cousin might feel? thinking "that" was far-removed enough that they would be okay with it and here's the internet flipping tables over Geten whose even further removed from the main family.)
Sorry for the really late response, nonnie.
Honestly, I can't say that I'm all that surprised that Hori took the route he did now that it's been awhile and the knowledge of the chapter has sunken in.
I still think giving Dabi an ice quirk undermines his story and I don't really know what the point of it was other than to shame Endeavor (while also spreading the message that only if he had abused his son more he would have realised he was "perfect" which is very icky even though it was unintentional).
As you said, Touya being the "perfect" son shouldn't have been why his life was respected by his father.
As for Geten being a Himura... Oof to all the people who shipped him with Dabi firstly (not that they still can't but fandom can be quick to attack other ships with problematic elements like these).
Personally I'm not really sure why Hori made that so because it does little to offer commentary on the story anymore, especially as he's done a terrible time at effective worldbuilding.
But I do agree that fandom needs to be careful when approaching topics like this. It's very easy to look at the story through a western lense and be rude to other cultures because of that. Yes, there is real reasons why incest is frowned upon such as the biological issues it has however you can discuss it in a way that's respectful and not insulting (sadly a nuance that fandom has not mastered).
God, what is it with Hori putting complicated themes in his story but not handling them satisfyingly.
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evilvillainapologist · 2 years ago
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What's this novel about then? 
So I've written a novel called "Mutual" (working title) that I'm probably going to self-publish, bc no self-respecting publisher is going to buy it, and I want to talk about it. (It's going to be between three and four books. I'm finished with book one so far) 
Have you ever shipped the hero with the villain and got annoyed, bc people were calling it 'unethical' or 'problematic' or whatever? 
Did you ever get pissed because the hero just ended up killing the villain, when in reality they should have smooched each other? 
Look no further then! 
Here, the poor little prince who gets abducted by the evil sorcerer at the beginning of the story does end up with that evil sorcerer! (and if you think it's the villain who holds the power in their relationship, think again) 
In between a couple of things have to happen, of course. Maybe the prince realises that his role in the whole story is not as innocent and weak as he made himself believe. Maybe the villain has a tragic backstory that does sort of explain how he ended up here. And maybe there is an even more powerful, more evil foe that needs some serious joining of forces to be vanquished. 
Maybe there is even a little isekai trip in there and well, during an isekai trip, all bets are off, anyway. 
The novel is also about colonialism (and why it's bad), feudalism (and why it's bad), and going on trips to learn things about yourself (and why that can be healing). 
Stay tuned for more stuff! 
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multiipl · 2 years ago
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*; OOC » some ppl really be going onto my rules?? and then hit me up on anon shitting on my triggers like “what’s wrong with Z*tara???” “Why would b*k*d*k* trigger you?? It’s so popular” in a tone so judgmental and condescending like ??? First of all rude? Second of all, I could list more ships that trigger me because they are shipping victims and abusers. “But those ships are so popular” yeah and? just bc they are popular doesn’t make it less triggering for me. The reason they are popular are precisely why I use them as my prime examples in my rules. I have them blacklisted for a reason. Like. Most/Each individual ship is another whole individual can of worms to open that I won’t go into detail because that’s not the point of this post. 
The point of this post is that I do not have to justify why shipping victims with their abusers is triggering to me. I’d appreciate it if instead of questioning me bc “they are so popular tho” people could just respect my triggers. Thanks and good night.
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