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I wholeheartedly believe that the last thing that should be said in response to aspecs hating their identity is "don't worry! Aspecs can still do X, Y, and Z" and I'm so fucking serious about this.
The least helpful thing you can do to someone who have not accepted their aspec identity yet is give them ways to compensate for it. If an aspec person is upset over not being able to enter a romantic relationship, the last thing that should be done is to tell them they can still enter one or instead enter a QPR - not because that's not true but because that is quite literally going to stunt their ability to accept their aspec identity. Telling them they can instead enter a QPR when they're upset over the lack of romantic relationships is at MOST a bandaid for the main issue. Instead of them coming to accept their identity and accept who they are you have instead handed them an amatonormative alternative on a silver platter that allows them to pretend they still fit into amatonormativity without every deconstructing it. This is how we get QPRs getting shoved into an amatonormative framework - these people NEVER got over the "I'm sad that I'm aspec" phase because they were handed alternatives instead of given actual support in deconstructing their internalized aphobia, self hatred, and amatonormative biases.
#text#aspec#aro#aromantic#ace#asexual#aroace#I'm not saying that bringing up the fact that aspecs can still interact in certain ways to be Bad or Wrong btw#I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about how some aspecs have sex or some have partnerships or whatever#but more just that the only response to people complaining about certain issues shouldn't only be āOh but you can do xā#someone who is mourning the fact they dont fit into amatonormativity shouldn't be told āoh but you can fit into amatonormativityā#Like idk maybe there should be a discussion about how many people use favorability and partnering to avoid properly healing?#maybe there should be a discussion about how often people only accept aspec identities based on how closely they fit amatonormativity?#maybe there is a discussion about how other aspecs play into that and never actually leave their āsad to be aspecā phase#the fact so many can only āacceptā their aspec identity when they are told that they can still partake in amatonormativity#like idk i feel like discussions can be had here and i think these sorts of discussions need to be had#especially if we ever want to be on the same page when it comes to dismantling amatonormativity
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11.05.2025 š today's anthy!
i drew this around lunar new year ... when i wasnt feeling quite well haha ... i think i stopped working on it because there was a lot of negative space where the ''2025'' is and still is to the right of it ,it looked really empty but didnt know what to do with it. i wish i could remember what brushes i used for texturing, maybe i couldv done that to the background to make it more interesting. but i found this again yesterday when i was organising my files and added the lettering (numericaling ?āāā) and the snake eye drop. which i remember i kept trying to do over and over before i stopped working on it months sago but it just wouldnt turn out right. it came to me pretty easily before i fell asleep last night though. i guess it just needed some time
#hello anthy!#å°å„³é©å½ć¦ćć#5.25#2025#šŗ#its unfinished but i dont think it needs to be worked on anymore#i dont feel the same when i drew it and oddly enough i like it as it is#thats been happening more recently too#i can say i like my art now. outloud even. it feels like i skipped a few steps but its a very novel feeling#on a completely unrelated note i saw sinners in theaters a few days ago and it was so amazing#and idk if this had anything to do with it but i slept the entire day afterwards i think it took a lot out of me lmao#the divinity of art ... i feel like i had a spiritual experience in theaters#im so happy i got to see it with surround sound in theaters#if anyone is on the fence about watching it i really think you should go see it#immediately after while we were walking out of the theaters i said i want to watch it again !!!#if i had any money i wouldv told my friend to leave me there so i could watch the last showing lmao#iv been listening to one song in particular on loop and to fall asleep to if uv seen it u can easily guess which one haha#unrelated to that song the villain is also one of my favourites now#i even said to my girlfriend hes up there with akio for me - actually hes above akio to me in my best villain gallery ghfdjkhg#waiting for all my friends to watch it so i can talk to them about it bc i tried looking for discussion abt it online#and what iv been seeing is giving me hives. goodness.
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nah i can't lie, watching tumblr finally realise thaty RTD has, shall we say, "some issues" in his writing is quite enjoyable. it sucks for you all that this happened but a bit of me is absolutely going "OH, AT LAST YOU SEE IT TOO"
#'did anyone notice rtd is weird about -' yes. yes were saying these exact things 2007. at the latest.#he's always had an odd attitude to mothers. he's always been living in the past (just ask any OG Martha Jones fan about this LOL)#he has a very conventional view of what a 'happy ending' is and yes it's his white characters he views as special and precious.#anyway come in! take a seat! get a can of haterade from the fridge and we shall speak of memories past.#do you want to discuss the problematic reimaginging of Sarah Jane Smith? how about the rejection of Martha Jones by both fandom and#the show itself? shall we talk about why Rose and Martha and Donna have the same cliche nagging mother?#how about the patronising view of the working class and their concerns that the fandom largely just went along with?#(name one other character/person you've seen referred to as 'a shop girl'. just one. i'm not fussy about who just name one.)#anti rtd#*sits back in my rocking chair* ā...and then there's the time someone got really mad about having seen a martha jones livejournal themeā
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so when the mighty nein participate in a premeditated, treasonous act against the governance in their nation and exonerate themselves by framing innocents for the crime, they are lauded as underground heroes, but when I, essek thelyss-
#thinner than a razor indeed xD#nein again#the following ramble is all mostly a watsonian/in-universe pov ->#thinking about the gentleman clearing the nein's names after ulog assassinated high-richter prucine#aka one of the highest up in the second largest city in the empire#it even made its way into crit recap animated xD#this is to say essek framing someone to dodge 'lawful' consequence is not too unfamiliar a concept to the nein#the nein (and thus we the audience) just have the benefit of humanizing specifically adeen because we know his name and face#he is for all narrative intents and purposes a character rather than a footnote#and though we can get into philosophical discussions of moral relativism and the pros and cons of punitive vs restorative justice and such#i'm not going to bother splitting hairs here over intentions or crime severity because the consequence is the same for those framed#according to egtw in both the empire and the dynasty the punishment for treason is death#chanse chatters#though! who knows if adeen is dead#maybe he made a deal with the empire/ludinus for his life#.......... imagine if adeen had shown up in c3 as a big bad general xD#i need to stop before that thought runs away from me i have things to do xD#also where's vence#is he still alive#okay i'm done xD
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i have ALWAYS promptly looked forward to jason grace's povs in the hoo books to the point where'd I'd flip the pages till I find the words "JASON" and would count the amount of povs he has in the whole book before I even finished reading, so I feel excited knowing that I'll get to his povs soon. there, I said it.
#there is no 'i skip jason's povs' allowed in this household sorry I love him too much#if im a loser for liking no LOVING his povs then so be it idc#I genuinely felt interested in reading his povs bc he was the only one without memories#like we don't know who is how got there what he's in chb for?? his mind was so blank that even I felt confused for the poor guy#the sheer devastation I felt when I saw people hating on him online after I read the hoo books š#even yesterday I saw a person comment on a jason pinterest post about how he is so uninteresting unfunny and insensitive-#and that they felt bad nico had come out to jason of all people. like okay what did jason ever do to deserve this treatment dam#all poor young me wanted to do was discuss how much I love him and what a great character he was-#i genuinely loved his povs??? he is so dry chill and sarcastic I love it sm bc same jason#whenever he analyzes people's behaviours and notices their habits>>>#pjo#pjo fandom#percy jackson#pjo series#jason grace#pjo hoo#pjo hoo toa
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ive had enough of dating bring me back to my yaoi-dom
#me: its not possible to meet the right person in two dates#karma: idk seems right to me#my dude friend being like how r u getting so many dates#to how do u have the emotional capacity for these dates#and im like the same energy i bring into art#can be applied to anything where rng is involved#i mean i had what felt like a right person wrong time situation so early on#that since then ive just been like#the litmus test is really do i care if we dont go exclusive asap#and i think if the answer is no and the answer is very frequently noā¦.#anyway thats my irl life#threes been dating with the energy of a woman post divorce#i think the worst if im ranting was the guy going u dont want kids and im unsure and that put me off#WHAT IF U DECIDE U DONT WANT KIDS#or what if in a year I end up moving to the east coast bc thats where all my friends are#or what if im actually fine with ldr bc all my online friendships are completely over text anyway#but idk if ur okay with that and u wont have this discussion even#like what if the only thing i really need in any relationship is sustained conversation for 10-15 minutes 3 times a day?#OR WHAT IF IN 5 YEARS I DO WANT KIDS#OR IM UNSURE#OR ITS VERY PARTNER DEPENDENT#most insane tag rant ive given on this acct
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I'm of the belief solas wouldn't fuck with emmrich actually
#their in-game interaction is cool but then i think about it more than 5 seconds and i rip my shirt open in agony#what happened to solas poking dorian about how necromancy is just putting spirits into slavery the same way tevinter does to elves#what happened to solas hunting and haunting mortalitasi abusing spirits for rituals#youre telling me solas fucks with the mourn watch putting spirits into skeletons to do what? dig in the Necropolis until what?#'the spirits like it!' what happened to 'its not abuse if i ask' 'not always true'#he fucks with emmrich and his butler spirit son because??#rahh. whatever#IF they made emmrich actually not realize how harmful it is to treat manfred like a butler when he is a person and that would have been#his character arc. that would have 'humanizied' spirits to us/new players and make us sympathetic towards solas#and would have been another argument in the tearing down the veil discussion the game SHOULD have had#but we cant have complex character choices here. only cosmetic
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I'll be missing the live wrap-up but i wanted to say it's been disheartening but sadly unsurprising the way a lot of people who started with Campaign 3 talk about Marisha and Laura especially. It feels as though they see them as little more than vessels to provide Laudna and Imogen content. They get outright mad when people ask them questions in the AMA Firesides or 4SD about their jobs in Critical Role as a company, or other characters they've played, or their personal feelings about things they enjoy. A lot of them hate the Cobalt Soul despite Marisha explicitly and repeatedly saying it's incredibly meaningful to her, and are vocal about this, but will attack you if you say you're not a big fan of Laudna. Their approach to Keyleth feels like little more than a convenient opportunity for them to say "you can't ever criticize Marisha! Look at the harassment she received" but they'll then direct this claim towards anyone, even people who watched C1 live and experienced that in real-time and opposed it. They'll engage in harassment themselves and claim it's in defense of Marisha, then turn around and shit talk the Cobalt Soul and yell about how the Ashari are evil Ruidusborn haters and Beauyasha is boring.
And to be clear I have a longstanding and documented history of disliking obnoxiously parasocial behavior or invasive/repetitive/overly generic panel questions. I think, and I mean this genuinely, that it's completely fine and reasonable to be a CR fan who is here for characters only, and isn't interested in the cast. Indeed, I think a lot of early fans of the show were mostly here for the story of Vox Machina, and I respect the people who didn't connect to the Mighty Nein nor have an attachment to the cast and politely stepped away. I am not demanding everyone love every piece of merch nor every creative direction choice lest they disrespect Laura or Marisha; that is not how this works. But there's a difference between "I'm not really interested in anything but Keyleth, so I'm only tuning in to TLOVM chats!" vs this entitled distaste, verging on disgust, among a certain set of C3 fans when Marisha and Laura especially spend even a minute of their out-of-character time talking about anything other than Laudna and Imogen. If you do this, you cede the right to any "they're having fun/it's meaningful or comforting or makes them happy" defense (which, to be clear, I do not think is a valid argument with regards to the quality of a story, but which a lot of these people hypocritically invoke) or "if you dislike this female character or F/F ship you're a bigoted person," especially when you resent the actual real-world women behind your pretend characters for choosing to answer a question about anything other than what you personally care about.
And ultimately, I think that if you are dismissive and resentful towards the bulk of what the cast/company does (this includes when you turn this resentment towards fans for daring to ask questions about anything else, even in places that aren't at all C3-specific like panels or cast fireside AMAs, or places where the crew or the cast themselves are the ones actually choosing which questions are answered), it is childish and embarrassing to then act like you are being wronged and your opinions cruelly disregarded simply because something of which you only like one small facet fails to cater to you. You don't have to like it; but you showed up to part 3 of a trilogy and got mad that the creators sometimes talk about parts 1 and 2.
#cr discourse#also like. speaking as someone who started with c2 it's straight up incorrect#to act like c2-concurrent talks machina/panels/firesides didn't include c1 questions/random d&d questions/one-shot questions#frankly c1 q&as and panels i've watched often had like. voice acting or d&d general questions while we're at it.#like it's WILD how many c3 people showed up and just. said objectively untrue things about the past like no one would notice?#also i feel there's this BIZARRE behavior re: bells hells where their fans act like they were idk#interns hired to do the same job as vm or the nein for half the pay and double the time and were screwed over by management#and it's like well they're not real people and don't have feelings; we can discuss if the intent was well communicated to the cast by matt#but ultimately bh don't and will never exist outside this context of PCs for The Avengers Assemble Campaign.
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I was rewatching mouthwashing, and I ended up thinking of the different reactions that Curly and Jimmy had in doing their tasks. How during the scene of Anya evaluating Jimmy and showing dread towards the idea of doing his evaluation, Curly was the one that offered to take it off her hands. He had no issue with adding more to his plate, because he knew - or well, thought, he knew that Jimmy wasn't going to "bullshit" with him since he's known him for a long time. When Anya hands Curly a note from Swansea, Curly goes to check out what the issue is and he takes care of it without a complaint, the only "complaint" he has is how this incident could have damaged the pods. Which is reasonable, those pods are their only way to be saved if anything tragic happens on the ship. However, in comparison to Jimmy being asked to do things, he's passive-aggressive about it. When Anya asks Jimmy if he could help her out with Curly's painkillers, he tells her that people should be worth their titles, specifically using her title as a nurse when she asked him for help and then when she says forget it, since he made her feel insecure, he still goes "Oh no, I'LL take care of it" as if he was doing a chore, a favor for her. Then, there's that part where he blows up at her for things that she didn't even ask him to do - more so the others asked him about it, like the code scanner, him deciding he needed to find the axe for the foam, and then, there's the medicine part (which when she does ask, and she reconsiders - going to do it herself, he takes that away from her). Jimmy complains about the tasks he has to do and he treats it like a big issue, a "woes me" that he has to do this and that - wanting the praise of the capital without actually doing any work. While Curly doesn't complain about it, in fact, he even mentions that he's aware of how well he is doing at his job as a Captain during that cockpit scene with him and Jimmy. If Jimmy only had to do a small amount of tasks to get irritated and annoyed at being captain, while Curly didn't which I feel like encapsulates their personalities. Curly understands what he's doing is a job, it's a responsibility, why would he complain at any point for doing what he's suppose too? Why would he be upset at people asking him to do tasks? While Jimmy on the other hand, isn't used to it at all and it's different to what he's had before and he's realizing that he doesn't actually like doing the work he has too. I just wanted to ramble about it even if it seemed kind of obvious xd
Itās obvious but it is a thing people miss or understate when trying to find parallels in Curlyās and Jimmyās relationship/personalities.
Like the way people portray it as neither taking responsibility when it is almost split down the middle of Curly taking responsibilities and faults that shouldnāt be his and making himself unequipped to handle the ones that are while Jimmy refuses to handle the responsibilities he has because he wasnāt expecting the work that comes with them.
Not a lot to say but people forget that another thing the game comments on is prioritization of issues and responsibilities and how the guys fail at it in one way or another in the situation.
#this talk of responsibility is more so about me be very annoyed with people acting like Swansea was the most responsible man on that ship#when he immediately takes a break after his intern in stuck in the foam starts drinking the moment he find out the mouthwash is alcoholic#doesnāt tell anyone about the cryopod or explain himself and did nothing about Jimmy either until it was too late#like Iām sorry but he is also the last guy Iād like to hear about responsibility from cause he did just as bad as Curly post crash like he#wasnāt even nice to Anya outside the one conversation we see he was actually just as rude to her as he was Daisuke when they cracked open#the crates and dismissive before hand like Iām getting more mad at the glorification of one guy vs the woman whose doing the most 4 herself#like I get his speech and the recognition of his faults but he still had them and they still were his downfall in the end and part of the#reason Daisuke listened to Jimmy and itās not his fault that happened but itās the same way itās not Curlyās fault Jimmy is like that#but I digress cause people donāt exactly like when we actually discuss the responsibilities the crew mates shouldāve and shouldnāt have had#or what they actually did to help cause idk Anya likely would not feel supported by any of them after the fact if they survived like girl#only ever got attention for her problems when they were literally at the worst thatās not helping or taking responsibility like she had to#kill herself to feel some sort of relief also the irony about Curlyās concern about killing herself only#for it to get to the point she actually did because there was no safety for her they all failed her#Swansea wouldāve just told her to tell the captain and heād watch Jimmy and ultimately it would play out the same cause heās tries to not#get to involved cause heās old and been through enough already and sheād feel just as unheard like he was closer to Daisuke#and not once after the crash did he really try to steer him away from liking Jimmy which again he points out himself#like I love Swansea and Daisuke but they were just as complacent in Anyaās suffering and Jimmyās behavior even if they knew less that should#not make them more viable options or it more excusable like crazy conclusions to comes to ig on my part but yall hate#the idea that maybe a major point is that Anya was alone as a woman and overlooked#mouthwashing#ask#mouthwashing game#anon#curly mouthwashing#jimmy mouthwashing
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This is a bit of a hot take but I really think this should be shared.
Callum and Ezran's conversation in EP09 felt really disingenuous. Like⦠it was beautiful but it was lacking depth.
Callum talks about him and Ezran being brothers and needing each other-
"Because we were going to need each other. Because we're brothers. I still need you, Ezran. I know it's been a hard time but I really hope-"
Callum S7EP09
-but the thing is, Callum wasn't there when Ezran needed him. He left to protect Rayla and Runaan. He wasn't there because he couldn't be there.
But that doesn't change the fact that he still wasn't there when Ez needed him. Katolis had just burned down, and just before that Ezran had narrowly escaped a hostage situation and barely avoided war with Karim.
He was going through some tough shit and Callum was barely ever there. And even when he came back he was just so distant, obviously torn between wanting to be there for Ezran and for Rayla, but still distant.
And when he left again he had a good reason but he still left again. And the worse part is that in the Silvergrove there wasn't one moment of regret, remorse, or internal conflict whatsoever. Never once had there been a single moment where any of them even thought about Ezran or Katolis. It felt like, had Astrid not told them about Aaravos, they would not have left the Silvergrove. At least not for a very long time.
So yes, they still needed each other and that was beautiful, but there was much more they still needed to talk about. Like�
The way Callum started the conversation also kinda irked me because he was acting as if they'd just gotten into a petty little sibling fight. Not really showing any internal struggle at all or- in my opinion- taking it as seriously as he should've.
Like� You literally committed treason and abandoned not only Ezran but everyone else right after the kingdom had been destroyed.
THAT'S A BIG DEAL!?
But he really wasn't treating it like one.
Idk, to me the whole conversation just felt too⦠condensed? Like they just summarized the main bits and left a bunch of stuff out.
Am I the only one who took issue with this?
#did this make any sense#i understand that most of this may be due to constraints#probably didn't have enough room to do an extensive conversation but stillā¦#it kinda gave their conflict a really unsatisfying resolution#tdp#tdp critical#Callum and Ezran tdp#tdp broyals#broyals arc#the dragon prince season 7#tdp s7 critical#i think ezran should've had a lot more to say too#in this situation everyone was simultaneously wrong and right at the same time#it definitely deserved more of a discussion#the dragon prince#giveusthesaga#we want arc three#tdp s7
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Fernando Alonso & His Relationship With Cards
I'm sure we're all familar with the cards on the back of Fernando's Vegas GP helmet by now, but did you know his relationship with cards goes a lot deeper?
I. Magic Tricks
You've probably seen or heard someone at least mention Fernando's propensity for card tricks. As far as I can tell he was doing them(publically) as far back as 2003 all the way to as recently as 2018. Even once performing a card trick, with a condom and a teddy bear(!??!?!??!!), in front of Valentino Rossi who said "How was that possible?"(x)
But how did this start? According to James Allen, "Fernando admits to having been heavily influenced by his grandfather, a mercurial figure, who taught him magic and card tricks, still one of his passions away from the race track."(x) And I'm not sure the validity of this one, because I couldn't find an actual source, but apparently he once said: "My parents are responsible for the two things I like doing most - driving and magic tricks. They bought me my first go-kart and a magician's kit."
In several interviews he described it as his hobby off track, and that he loved learning new tricks and surprising others in the garage with them! So clearly cards are pretty important to him both as a hobby but also to who he is as a person since they've been with him just as long as racing has.

II. Card Symbolism in His Helmets
This is the reason I originally made this post, but I thought I should also explain the origins of his card fascination first. As I said, we probably all remember the cards on the back of his helmet in Vegas, but did you know that wasn't the first time he had cards on the back of his helmet?
From 2008-2013, he used to have a pair of cards on the back of his helmets. The symbolisms of the cards themselves as well as the evolution of their design is really fascinating to me! Even more so with the recent development of the card choice in 2023.
Fernando said he wanted to reference his two titles in some way on the back of his helmet and after his friend sent him several ideas, he decided on having two cards(an ace of clubs and an ace of hearts, sometimes pictured with 05 and 06 on them as well), saying: "I picked the cloverleaf [the ace of clubsĀ - Ed] to give me luck, but the only pity is that it doesn't have four leaves!"(X)
2008.
Here's the very first appearance of the cards! They're displayed flat, with the 05 and 06 clearly visible
2009.

Very similar to 2008, but with a slightly different design, and they're maybe a bit more straight with less shadow?
2010.

This is the first major change! I was sad they didn't have the years on them anymore, but then I realized they're sparkly to match with his signature lightning bolts on the top of the helmet!!
2011.

Honestly I'm still somewhat unsure if this is the actual 2011 helmet? It's pretty difficult to find clear photos of the back of helmets from older seasons. It's easiest to find them on replica sites or auction sites so I'm not 100%? But anyways, I like that this has the championship years on the underside of the cards
2012.
This is when I started getting weirdly emotional about the helmets. Do you see how they've progressed from being a centerpoint to being curled up and sad at the bottom of the helmet? Not listing the year anymore??
2013.
Same thoughts as 2012. And after this season, they cease to exist (just like his ferrari chair in the garage, WOAH CALLBACK), until cards make a reeappearance in his Vegas helmet, albeit in a different form
2013 Monaco(Honorable Mention):
For some reason 2013 helmets were easier to find proper pictures of, so I happened to witness this absolute beauty. The creativity of this helmet genuinely blows me away??? Wanting to keep the card motif, but making sure to incorporate it into the rest of the puzzle piece design?? Mwah! There was another special 2013 helmet but they didn't change the cards at all so I really applaud this one
2023 Las Vegas(The Return of The King):
The magnificent return! But look! The cards are different cards! Instead of being two aces, it's now an ace of hearts, a four of hearts(his driver number of course!) and, the, now iconic, representation of himself as a Joker. I literally could not believe my eyes when this helmet was released and I saw the Joker card, what a fucking silly old man....I really wonder if he felt nostalgic having cards on his helmet again or if he didn't think about it all and was just like, "ah cards because Vegas!!!"
III. Why Does This Matter?
*The rest of the post was factual, this is moreso my personal thoughts on the symbolism of the cards/designs
This post spawned from me recently watching the 2010 Bahrain gp and noticing "hey wait a minute...are those CARDS ON THE BACK OF HIS HELMET!?" It's a really tiny detail that's unfortunately covered up by the HANS device pretty much whenever he's wearing the helmet, so it's really difficult to spot! But I became fascinated with the fact that he had cards on his helmet before that recent helmet, and now here we are!
There's something to me about how the design of the cards evolves over the course of six seasons from the cards being front and center to being smaller, more folded up and closer to the bottom of the helmet. As I said, the 2012-2013 ones genuinely made me depressed because it feels, symbolically, like his hopes for getting another Ace are becoming more and more unlikely and falling away until they eventually fall falt and fade away entirely after 2013 and disappear for basically a decade.
But when they return? They're not the same cards! Instead of representing Fernando's championships, they now represent him as a person, displaying his driver number and his persona of being a Joker!! Though I do think it's interesting he happened to keep the Ace of Hearts, even though he talked more about the Ace of Clubs before. I'm not sure it's actually this deep in reality, but I like to think that it's him not letting his championships(and the lack thereof) define him, but rather letting who he is as a person shine and be the centerpoint instead! But on a sadder note, as @suzuki-ecstar said to me, maybe the Aces aren't there anymore because he's lost all hope for a chance at a third Ace entirely :(
#yes its finals week and im up to my eyes in coursework but instead decided to spend like 5 hours researching and writing this post#nah bcs i actually genuinely put more work into this then I think I have all semester dsfjdskjg#that thing about him using a condom and teddy bear in a magic trick genuinely had me crying with laugher. actual tears rolling down my face#<- HOW!?!? WHAT WAS THE TRICK?? its literally inconceivable to me what he did. oh if only there were pics UGH#anyways!! this post was a lot of fun to make!! i really really love the symbolism and design of helmets so this was a rly fun project#and i also went down a lot of rabbitholes while make this and saw many very weird articles from yore#i feel like i make an equal amnt of deranged posts abt seb and nando but i dont know why nando is gifted w all my well researched projects#<- i.e. chair post. that was the same level of research as this one but at least this one i could find actual sources about....#idk theres smth about the extremely long history of nando's history that evokes research posts like this KLAJSLSKDJ#theres just so much that i dont think I ever really see people discussing! so i must create.#haha what was that joke tag i wanted to make abt my researched posts? I think:#normal posts that catie normally makes in a normal fashion#<- one day ill go back and actually tag posts w that. bcs the amtn of research compared to my actual schoolwork is so unwell#fernando alonso#fa14#f1#formula 1#catie.rambling.txt#we do a little bit of f1
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hello tumblrinas. what do you think is the worlds most well known song
#i love having this discussion with friends but we are hindered by being all in the same location#so it would be great to get opinions from other countries#and age groups! bc a lot of the worlds population is older#there are a lot of songs known by like every 20something that people 40+ have never heard#so i tend to lean towards older songs for this question#bohemian rhapsody comes up a lot#billie jean and thriller#dancing queen#jolene#maybe never gonna give you up???#that one had the double whammy of being popular in the 80s AND being a decades long internet meme
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I'm just saying, if the chance was given to romance him, Saren would hold Shepard like they're the most precious fucking thing in the entire goddamn universe even though they kicked his ass twice and would easily do so again.
They may not entirely change his mind on his views of humanity but they changed his views on them, and he wouldn't take that for granted.
Shepard would become the most important thing to him and losing them would utterly destroy him, and you absolutely will not change my mind.
#im in my feelings tonight over them#and just in my feelings about him in general#i just. really love him. and have strong feelings about what could have been.#also in this case I say 'they' as in either FemShep or MShep but also yeah it could be applied to Cam as well#also everyone ships him with Nihlus anyway (same) so homeboy is bi at the VERY least#that's my headcanon for him anyway#look man I really just wish we could have actively saved him and had us with us through the rest of the games#imagine the fucking banter between him and Garrus specifically#comedy GOLD right there AND YOU TOOK THAT FROM US#so I gotta pick up the slack and do it MYSELF#also I will forever despise the fact that one of his major 'villain' attributes is that he hates humans/humanity#bro almost literally half the fucking aliens in the series hate humans/humanity#**I** hate humans and humanity#that absolutely 100% does not deserve to be a point brought up when discussing why he's a villain#mass effect shepard#commander shepard#saren arterius#saren x shepard#sheterius
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Massive thank you to you and everyone else who calls out how shitty it is to get mad at peoples interpretations. Sleep tokens music is romantic. Its also toxic. These statements can coexist. Its not your business if someone plays bloodsport or vore or hell even atlantic at their wedding. Youre not them, you dont know what the music means to them. If you see a weird take just roll your eyes and move on, its not a big deal. Absolutely sick and fucking tired of all these "why are you calling this romantic/sexy? Youre stupid and a terrible person!" takes like fucking relax. Media literacy is important yes. Respecting that this music is dark and personal to vessel is also important. Same goes for respecting how people relate to the music in dark ways. But as long as people are not saying things directly to vessel or fans about how their individual trauma is sexy then just chill out and respect peoples different interpretations. It sucks that i cant talk about how i view certain songs without being called horrible things and having really fucked up vitriol aimed at me. Yall need to grow the fuck up and get over yourselves. Im not thinking of your personal shit when i call a certain song romantic/sexy, i dont even know you, sometimes im thinking of my own trauma actually lol. Lets all discuss this music maturely where we respect each other and what each of us as individuals bring to the table for interpretation, stop making this fandom toxic as hell for anyone who doesnt agree 100% with your own interpretation. (Also the whole "youre not allowed to say this song is romantic/sexy" thing is very dismissive of some peoples trauma in itself, it ignores how messy someones feelings toward their abusers/toxic partners can be. Pretty fucked up to call a trauma survivor stupid or a terrible person because a song reminds them of their positive feelings towards someone who hurt them) Anyways yeah, just tired of people being so harsh because they refuse to see other peoples perspectives. I genuinely think one of the most toxic aspects of this fandom is the vitriol over different interpretations, people act like outright children at times with it im ngl, especially with more sexual discussions. It also feels infantilizing towards vessel at times, hes a grown adult who put romantic/sexy elements in his music and he doesnt need people trying to protect him from those themes. Im rambling but this stuff pisses me off so much, this fandom needs to do better
Context post for the clueless ones - regarding my tags/replies
Here's the thing - I've been in fandoms for many, many, MANY years. This type of discussion isn't anything new nor unique to Sleep Token, but it sure does make a comeback quite often. It's tiring to keep repeating the same things over and over, but that's what fandom is all about isn't it?
Someone needs to say something, and I am not one to shy away from uncomfortable conversations like these. Something something, build your own community, be the change you wanna see, etc etc.
I've said pretty much everything I wanna say already under that post, but for the sake of clarity, and because I can't keep my mouth shut apparently -
Under the cut for length - you know the drill:
Music is art. And art is subjective. Meaning, each individual will have their own personal connection and interpretation of a given piece of art, which in this case is Sleep Token's music.
Did Vessel write the songs with a certain intent or meaning? Most likely yes! It's not hard to connect the dots and guess what events/emotions might've transpired and served as inspiration for them (accuracy to personal life is irrelevant and none of our business, but it's also no rocket science to understand what's been said).
Can we establish a base meaning for any given song, or better, can we have a general consensus of what a song is about based on its lyrics and themes? Absolutely! Not every song is like that, but we can all agree there's a lot of recurring themes of past relationships and mental health struggles.
Is it wrong to diminish the songs to one basic element (eg. the sexual undertones) and/or completely disregard the bigger, more important theme? I'd say it is.
Giving Atlantic as an example (which as a lot of you know, is my most favourite song of them and very dear to me): this one has some very blatant references to suicide and depression. Regardless of whether it is based on irl events or not (none of our business!!!), it is extremely heavy and emotionally charged. I find it incredibly disrespectful when people say random stuff during the rituals when he plays this one.
Or for example, how certain people reduce Sleep Token to "baby making metal", instead of acknowledging the insane (insane!) variety of genres and the profound lyricism they present.
Should we limit our views, and by extension, those of others, to surface-level interpretation, without allowing room for different views and interpretations, either fictional lore based or not? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
Vessel himself said to "not restrict ourselves to labels or genres because music transcends it all" (paraphrasing here). It's literally their whole thing. It's very hypocritical to be shouting from the rooftops about "media literacy" and assuming people are stupid or idiots for not understanding the basic, surface-level meaning of a song, when Vessel himself constantly writes in metaphors and half-truths.
I've touched on this a lifetime ago on one of my analysis, but if you *actually* look at the lyrics, you'll realise Vessel hardly ever says what he means. There's always something else behind his words, something he purposefully keeps hidden. It really sneaks upon you sometimes! I'm over a year in and I still find something new everyday on their music. That man has a way to weave in a hundred and one statements under a single sentence, that is just truly beautiful to study.
Is, say, The Love You Want, about a man (Vessel) mourning the fact that his love isn't reciprocated? Yeah! Is it about someone who, despite knowing they can never receive from their lover the attention and affection and care they want, will stay by their side anyways? It is!
Is it about bitterness, spiteful accusations aimed at the one person who should love you fully? Or a reflection of how little self-regard the singer has, so much that they are willingly and actively choosing to stay in a sinking one-sided relationship, because the alternative is too painful to bare? Can you flip the switch and see it as someone who is obsessively pursuing another person, and painting themselves as a victim? All of this, yes!
You can even eliminate the romantic aspect all together and apply it to a relationship with the self (past or future, or an alter ego), or a parental figure. The options are endless. There isn't one universal truth when it comes to music, and as such, all of these takes are 100% correct.
Many statements can be true at the same time - it doesn't make one more true or correct than the other. Simply different. The way we connect with music is very much dictated by our own life experiences, and no two people have lived the exact same life.
Can you prefer a certain way to look at a song, or completely disagree with certain takes? Absolutely! I know I sure as hell do! That's normal and expected and part of the fun in being in a community such as ours. More people means more ways to look at a song - isn't that just wonderful?!
Now, this is very obvious for most of us, but some people, especially in the younger rage, have been taught to look at things in a very black and white way. Not to be that person, but the truth is that the rise in awareness of social issues and "pc-ness", is slowly starting to eliminate the possibility of things being flawed and nuanced.
If you're wrong, you're awful. If you're right, you're obnoxious. Made a mistake? Get cancelled. Grow from your mistakes, but not like that. Learn from your actions, but change your whole personality in a day otherwise you're problematic.
You know what I mean.
Life isn't black and white. Art isn't black and white. Music isn't black and white. What may seem like a toxic, dark, obsessive depiction of a relationship to you, might translate to the deepest and most truest of loves to me. I can acknowledge something is Not Right, while still drawing my own conclusions.
Is Blood Sport a sad af song? Yeah! Definitely not the first thing I'd think of when in a happy relationship. But maybe that's the point. And maybe I do. And that's okay, and none of anyone's business. "Okay but The Apparition isn't a good example of a healthy and romantic-" TO YOU! Maybe that's what love looks like to me! Maybe I just happen to be into it! And what about it?
Maybe to me love comes with all the ugly sides too. The violence, the despair, the self-doubt. Who are you to dictate what I can or can't think? I highly doubt Vessel would go š£ļø "WRONG! NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT! >:::(", so why would you?
You can, and should, discuss the songs with others! Maybe some people do genuinely need a fresh pair of eyes to help them get to the juicy core of the songs - that's why we're here! To discuss, and exchange ideas! You can, and should, call people out when their engagement with the music is being harmful to others (joking and laughing during Missing Limbs? No bueno. Speculating about Vessel's personal life? VERY no bueno. Choosing a potentially weird song to walk down the aisle? None of your business + not your wedding + you weren't even invited + none of your business. Notice how I've been repeating that. Notice again).
You shouldn't, however, shame and ridicule others for having different views from you.
I think, rather than engaging in pointless discussions and start accusing people of being this or that, we should all exercise a little "don't like? scroll past". Is it harming you or others? No? Then scroll past! Is it an awful, truly horrendous take about something you're really passionate about? Okay! Disgusting! Scroll past! Good for them! š
Also - keep an open mind. We're all doing this living businesse for the first time, no one holds all the answers to everything. It's okay to change your mind. It's okay to say the wrong thing and backtrack. It's okay to make a mistake and learn and grow.
You know what's not okay? Being a dick to others because the thing you like is being misinterpreted. It's hard, I know!!! You can block people! You can scroll past! You can look at pictures of your favourite vessel and cleanse your brain!!!! I know I do!!!!!
And this is a last afterthought but - you don't get to complain about the fandom you're in if you're doing nothing to change that. I see many, maaaaany of you bitch about this and that, while having 0 engagement aside from the bitching. Like?? Maybe if you spent more time reblogging cool art or gifs and less time whining about literally everything, this would be a much more pleasant space!! And I DO get to be a little petty here because I sure do try my best to make this a fun and nice community. I am allowed a little bitching š
Anyways, tl/dr: don't be a dick; don't like - don't engage; keep an open mind; gaze upon the vessels. Peace and love yall šš«
#i think i may have gotten a little carried away but! you get the gist#very rich of me saying don't like - scroll past while engaging in Discourse⢠i know š#but. well. i kind of really really don't like this whole āyou bad me rightā attitude some people assume when talking about certain topics#(and this goes for both the recent discussions of the referenced post and the whole identity reveal thing)#is it too much to ask for a little respect? dang it#i swear december is a cursed month for Sleep Token and fans. last year we had iii's absence + the Wembley situash + THAT WHOLE THING in here#(remember that? lmaoooooo)#and now we're repeating the exact same thing? cmon guys. euclid. break the dang bough already and be someone new#i said i wouldn't get pissy but here we are LMAOOO HYPOCRIT NUMBER 1 IS ME!!!#in my defense. i couldn't not say anything about that Espera thing š¤ my queens. my lieges.#and this. well. i am just annoyed enough to engage š„°#ANYWAYS!!#gonna schedule this and go honk shoo some more#i wanna be peaceful eeping while ~this~ goes live š muwah#sleep token#darya is unhinged#<- it warrants the writing tag#darya answers#anon ask
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wait why do some ppl on twt seem to think dreamās stance on this was āfuck artists and writersā and brushing off their worries š he never said anything remotely related to supporting generative ai replacing creativity
#discourse#like did we even listen to the same space orrr#also just my opinion but i donāt think anything he said was brushing off ppls worries or making them feel bad for doing so#he had an optimistic outlook but imo nothing he said made it sound like he was ignoring creativesā struggles#(or anyones for that matter - he did acknowledge the concern over ppl losing jobs to ai etc)#i deal with a lot of toxic positivity from ppl in my life and what he said was just. Not that at all š#he honestly discussed and explained everything very well without being rude to any different opinions. respect#all i want to say on this for now at least lol. i feel like everything i reblogged explain my views perfectly#glad that we can have nuanced and complex discussions here!
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Iām not sure why, but I was thinking of this scene:
(I guess I donāt really have to have a reason)
and it occurred to me that what weāre looking at is
a white guy
being shot walking in slow motion
with a rap song playing in the background
and not only can we take it seriously, but heās looking hot/sexy while doing it??? That takes an obscene amount of swagger to pull off.
But even as hot as Austin Butler is, and the amount of swagger he manages to put out - this scene wouldnāt have been nearly as effective if say, they opened the film with it.
WE HAD TO SEE THAT BOY WIGGLE FIRST.
#Baz was a genius is what Iām saying#he knew he had to hypnotize us with the pelvis to get things rolling#because then for the rest of the movie weād be like āšµāš«šµāš« okay š« š« š« š« ā#thereās probably more we can add to this discussion#but these were my quick thoughts#Iād also argue that Baz pulled off the same thing with our feelings of sympathy with his choice for the very first scene of Elvis#Iām still obsessed and picking this movie apart like crazy#elvis 2022#austin butler#elvis presley
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