#bad discourse tag

[caesarsaladinn]

it beggars belief that someone would choose to read a book in the “horror” genre, whose literal name promises that it will be full of upsetting, disgusting, frightening—one might even say horrifying—material, and then get mad that the book contains incest or whatever. like holy shit. they are not gonna make it in the real world

[caesarsaladinn]

my job on the leftist commune will be sabotage and guerilla warfare against our neighboring communes who are the wrong kind of communist. the week's tactics will be guided by tarot readings and star charts, naturally.

no one doing any farming on this commune huh

[evansbuck-ley]

the thing is, buck coming out was suppose to be the wonderful, joyful experience okay. here is this character who has spent his whole entire life searching for something, this missing piece that he couldn’t quite put his finger on what it was. he felt misplaced, unwanted and unloved. he was literally born to be a spare part and nothing more. he spent seasons looking for the key of happiness, looking for a place for him to belong.

and when he figured it out, when it finally fell into place for him, the look of relief on his face was so fucking beautiful. his eyes were so bright and smile so wide. and it’s been ruined and tainted by a certain side of the fandom that are so fucking cruel and spiteful because he kissed “the wrong guy”. and they continue to be cruel and spiteful, because to them bi buck only matters if it results in bddie.

saying it with chest but you are not an evan buckley fan if you can’t be happy for him and his storyline outside of shipping.

[somegurl8]

“People are writing this” “People are writing that” Actually let’s talk about what people AREN’T writing because we’re like 6 episodes into Judgement and I haven’t found a single fic for it on AO3. It’s been around since mid October and not a single fic. Why is there no love for Judgement

[isaacsapphire]

I've seen the "American Ninja Warrior is appropriation" take in the wild.

Seriously considering the 1950s global warming counterfactual theory tho.

High Quality Take Compilation

American Ninja Warrior is cultural appropriation.

That the word “home office” has replaced “study” shows that crass commercialism has replaced the love of wisdom, the φιλομάθεια, of the ancient age…

Liberals hate Donald Trump because he undermines the crucial myth that America is a meritocracy.

We can see that China is still communist because of their strict capital controls.

“You think you know when you can learn, are more sure when you can write, even more when you can teach, but certain when you can program” (Perlis). This is why the only good work in political philosophy is done by Facebook.

Successful people who complain about the word “talented”. They already get the credit for doing good work; now they additionally want to be considered hard-working instead of just genetically lucky?

The only western work to successfully capture the true spirit of anime is Luc Besson’s Léon: The Professional, which had both gun-fetishism and lolicon-baiting.

Twitter has finally realized the vision of Xanadu, with links, back-links (notification when someone @s you), transclusion (quote tweets), and micropayments (that took off… anyway here’s my patreon).

In the technologically optimistic 1950s, fixing global warming would be easy—just replace the coal with nuclear power, and maybe add some wacky climate engineering schemes. Global warming is caused by environmentalism.

The master’s tools did dismantle the master’s house. In this analysis of antebellum American building demolition practices I will show

Supposedly autistic children with autistic parents are happy and untraumatised, but would neurotypical children in autistic households be happier too? “Social skills” are evolved strategies to win political conflicts, and neurotypical humans spend 90% of their energy on interpersonal cold war.

Technology gives us air conditioners, even hair conditioners… when what we really need is human conditioners…

The Fitzpatrick-scale emoji skin tone modifiers (which take a medical criterion for skin cancer propensity and blithely repurpose it as a faux-objective and machine-legible “racial essence”) are racist.

VN romance games are the most insidious and corrupting vidya, they perpetuate the nice-guy “puzzle box” model.

In Praise of Woke and Funny Corporate Twitter Accounts. (Written from a u/acc perspective.)

[marshmellowtea]

apparently ace discourse is allegedly returning so a few things on that:

i feel like we learn this lesson every couple months but a significant chunk of the popular funnyman bloggers on this website are just bigots and bullies and your dash will be way more peaceful if you just block them on sight and stop giving them the time of day lmao

aro/ace exclusionists in general are, again, just bigots and bullies and again, you don't have to give them the time of day, and

tbh i think the only thing keeping these kinds of people from being outright conservative queerphobes is because they're queer themselves in some way--they're able to empathize and/or sympathize with what they consider "normal" lgbtq people but not anyone else who falls outside of their limited scope of "acceptable". also lbr a lot of them are homo/transphobic as well just in ways the larger tumblr community finds "funny" or "ironic" or they target the weirder queers who are considered acceptable to attack, and we need to stop giving them a pass for this and then being surprised when it turns out they actually do hate trans people or ace people or bisexuals or pansexuals or whoever else they like to target as a "joke".

i'm not saying any of this to downplay how harmful aphobia is, what i am trying to say is that aphobes are fucking losers and we have history and solidarity on our side. most of the queer community doesn't give a shit about this stupid terminally online discourse and will choose to support each other, don't let assholes online let you forget that fact. bigots are not going to win, no matter how much they try lol.

[glitter-stained]

Ngl it really peeves me when the debate about Jason's ethics regarding killing in the batfam mixes up the question of him being a moral character in regards to sticking to his own philosophy (aka compromising with what he thinks is right to salvage relationships, but also exploding trains to evade capture, killing random goons in a gang war, etc) and the question of him being a moral character in regards to whether his philosophy is right. And even with regards to his philosophy there is his philosophy on politics, crime control and harm reduction, and his ethical philosophy itself (utilitarianism, aka focusing on intended positive consequences of actions for the greater good rather than the action being fundamentally moral or immoral in itself). Those are different things. Those require different debates and should not be conflated together. I'm not even saying Jason is right! I think utilitarianism and deontology both suck and fail at providing sufficient guidelines for moral behaviour. ("Everybody still loses" like the nihilist clown says. The symbolism of that one scene is pretty cool on that regard.)

And I think some people at dc would very much like for you to make the connection that because Jason is harming civilians/killing unnamed goons, he is a bad person, and as such you don't need to examine the way his stance on moral philosophy (utilitarianism) opposes Batman's. But that's not right, they don't get to wiggle out of the fact that utilitarianism vs deontology is a complicated debate that has been going on for ages, that there is no clear-cut answer where Batman fundamentally comes out on top, they don't get to use the fact that Jason (in the era currently discussed) is a villain to saddle us with a false dichotomy of "well jason is wrong about stuff so batman has to be right" to avoid addressing the actual question. The traits of the people being tied on the tracks do not change the shape of the trolley problem. The traits of the person deciding to pull the lever do not change the shape of the trolley problem. It's still one lever, three people tied on one track, one on the other, do you pull the lever. That's it. Yes, bending the metaphor to address other questions (such as "who keeps tying people to the tracks" to question systemic violence or "how does my bias, my prejudice and empathy impact my decision to pull the lever depending on who is on the tracks") are interesting but that's not what the debate is about. If I wrote an essay about the trolley problem in high school and focused primarily on the nature of the people being tied on the tracks, I'd get a big fat zero with "off-topic" written in red all over my essay, so I'm not inclined to allow DC comics to get away with it.

[purpurship]

Fic: Dead Dove: Do Not Eat!

Antis: *eats it anyways- the whole thing infact*

Antis: ew, I hate eating doves! That's it, I'm tired of eating doves. We must eradicate all doves from existence so that this never happens again

Fic: tf did I just say-

If you feel described by this post (antis), don't interact! It would be so funny to laugh at how stupid you are if you do though.

[utilitycaster]

For a campaign that was supposed to have higher stakes I gotta say it doesn’t feel like they ever showed up. There wasn’t any finding out for any of the fucking around. Just, I don’t know what happened that BH ended up with plot armor a mile thick but it just feels bad.

What was the point of any of it, if none of it mattered, and no one had to deal with the consequences of their actions?

Yeah again it's like, a solid 90% of the results are fine-to-great actually but almost none of it feels like it followed or was earned. If I may I think this is the greatest condemnation of the oft-repeated defense of "but it's improv." Improv is about picking up what your partners are putting down. Improv is about seeing their choice and saying "yes, and". It feels like throughout this campaign a choice would be made (far less often than they should have been, but sometimes choices were made at least) and the response was not "yes, and" but "ok, well" or "anyway, then." And frustratingly a lot of it was Matt setting up the scene and then "ok, well" or "anyway, then"-ing himself: The Ruby Vanguard has a poison that prevents healing and resurrection! And then instead of "yes, and that means going up against the Vanguard requires a careful strategy because they can permanently kill you and you only have a few uses of the antidote" the improv inevitably was "ok, well, they don't use it when they attack Bells Hells." And it felt like that was the whole campaign - not even with the characters not dying but just, them being entitled and unpleasant and everyone kind of being like "anyway, then people are irritated as they have been in the past 5 encounters with you but they still let this go forward."

[caesarsaladinn]

I have the correct stance on white american cultural identity, which is that I only identify with my various ancestral countries when it's funny. I am exactly as Irish or Polish as a stupid joke requires, for as long as the joke takes to say, and no more

[tavina-writes]

so deeply deeply tired of the discourse where if an artist/creative gets revealed to have been a vile and shitty person irl we just start throwing their art out wholesale to the tune of "omg well I KNEW they were a BAD person!!! look at how AWFUL AND BAD and SUCKY their art was!! it was CLEAR it was never ANY good. Anyway I never bought the hype about them because their art was BAD!"

like, I'm not arguing for continuing to hold onto art that you now dislike because the creator was a vile person. you don't need to do that.

but this "oh I can tell if a person is good or bad if their art is good or bad bc bad people make bad art" is just such a reductive and honestly tiring approach? Good people make bad art. Good people make good art. Bad people make bad art. Bad people make good art. there's no correlation, stop trying to say there is.

we must learn to separate the morality and value of art from the morality and value of the creator.

[rat-rosemary]

And remembered kids!

Main tagging hate is actually super fucking rude, no matter the tag! You have the right to report everyone doing it for spam! It's what that report of spam thing means!

If someone gets their account fucked because of this, good! Get your hate out of the main hashtags dickhead. This is not a debate club

[crimeronan]

it's sometimes so silly to look in the notes of a polyamory art/post and see people like "is this cheating art....?" when the characters in canon are all extremely close friends. i know it's not malicious because most people think of monogamy as the default and anything outside that Must be cheating, but truly i'm always like. guys. guys Please.

please think about this for like 2 seconds.

under what circumstances do we think this non-canon couple might hold hands directly in front of their canon partners. and under what circumstances do we think the canon partners might be okay with this. do we Truly think this is a secret relationship. do we Truly think these guys would sneak around behind their canon partners' backs when all of them are extremely close friends with a high level of trust and commitment to each other.

would assuming that these extremely close friends have actually communicated with one another Exactly The Same Way They Do In The Canon Source Material perhaps cause less despair.....

[sunnibits]

potentially hot take but this is a pet peeve of mine

[nyaskitten]

This shipping discourse stupid as shit guys like okay llorumi is NOT my cup of tea either but why are people deadass campaigning to harass people over it? Like okay we can hate a ship AND be Civilized and Respectful about it? ??? why are we sending out the harassing goon squads or whatever what is this fandom's PROBLEM!!!

[azure-clockwork]

I love three houses discourse because I'm pretty sure everyone just picks their route based on which house leader they're the most gay for and then tries to defend their pick by pointing out the other sides's war crimes via twitter memes. Reader, all four of them do substantial quantities of war crimes. So many. We're just here because the woman with Issues and a big fuck-off axe said so, and then we gotta justify everything she did in the name of dismantling the class system. I mean, I'm here for that, but you could also try justifying Charm Man uses poison and perfidy to try to stop racism, A Sad Little Meow Meow gives no quarter instead of doing therapy, or the Thicc Pope tries to bring back her mom via human experimentation, depending on your tastes