#c: feirefiz

[poop-flying]

so I've been buying dragons like a MANIAC that Interesting AH Dragons thread is LETHAL

In the line-up (not in order), we've got a novice gladiator who's trying a make it big, a self-taught surgeon who more or less knows what they're doing, a paladin getting crushed by the weight of his own ideals, another gladiator who keeps accidentally poisoning herself, and a Normal Cook.

[cuties-in-codices]

parzival & feirefiz

illustration for a copy of wolfram von eschenbach's arthurian poem "parzival", lake constance region, c. 1467

source: Bern, Burgerbibliothek, Cod. AA 91, fol. 158v

"Because his father was white and his mother black, Feirefiz's skin consists of black and white patches. His appearance is compared to that of a magpie or a parchment with writing on it, though he is considered very handsome." (wikipedia)

[epic-summaries]

One Post List for Arthurian Side of British LegendsxPokemon

This is mainly so I can keep it straight for my fic, The Adventures of Perceval or the Story of the Spear Pillar.

Will update as the story progresses, Pokemon evolve and I keep figuring out teams since not all teams are finalized. And of course they will eventually have full post to explain the team.

Main Characters:

Perceval: Sobble but will have a Wooloo and a Mareep

Sir Gawain: Rapidash, Gardevoir, Leafeon, Hawlucha, Eevee and Volcarona(full post here)

Percival’s Family:

Dindrane:

Perceval’s Mother: None

Feirefiz:

Gawain’s Family:

Agravaine: Vullaby, Impidimp, Sableye, Crawdaunt, Drapion and Scraggy

Sir Gareth: Altria, Alolan Ninetails, Trubbish, Vilvillon, Alcremie,

Mordred: Snivy, Eevee, Munchlax, Pidove, Inkay, Morpeko

Soredamour:

Emperor Alexander:

Cligès: not yet born.

Clarissant: Glameow,

Lynette: Lopunny,

Lyonors: Persian,

Laurel: Teddiursa,

Queen Morgana: Delphox, Banette, Mismagius, Murkrow, Sylveon, and Shiinotic has a special connection to Darkrai (full post here)

Sir Owain: Manectric, Corviknight, Honchkrow, Lombre, Pyroar (male) and Pawnard

Cynon: Glalie, Butterfree, Darmanitan, Ledian, Staraptor and Beartric (notice Laudine is a rock gym leader and all his Pokémon are weak against rock?)

Morvydd: Meowstic (female), Medicham, Gothitelle, Exggutor, Musharna and Solrock

Elaine of Tintagel: Noivern,

King Nentres:

Galeschin:

Queen Igraine: Haxorus, Goodra, (yes she’s still alive)

King Arthur: Shiny Arcanine, Aegislash, Chatot, Garchomp (maybe? Still debating it), Bewear (maybe? Still debating it) and has a special connection to Zacian and Zamazenta

Queen Guinevere: (her gimmick is that all her Pokemon are shiny) Gallade, Alolan Marowak, Salazzle, Tsareena, Yamper, she has a special connection to Cresslia

Side Characters

Sir Ector: Kangaskhan

Sir Kay: Blaziken, Scorbunny’s evolution, Chesnaught, Infernape, Pignite and Incineroar

Lucan: Mr. Mime

Sir Bedwyr: Alakazam, Crobat, Electrode, Ninjask, Greninja and Talonflame (full post here)

Griflet: Shedninja,

Lunete: Lunaton, Golem, Sudowoodo, Corsola, Carbink and Lycanroc (Midday form)

Sir Lancelot: Gyarados, Vapereon, Kingdra, Empoleon, Clawizter and Primarina, (full post coming soon)

Galahad: (he will show up eventually, it’s going to be a long while)

Sir Bors the Younger:

Sir Tristan: Charzard (Mega X), Mamoswine, Lycanroc (Dusk Form), Dhelmise, Grookey,

Queen Isolde: Blissey, Audino, Milotic,

Dinadan: Jigglypuff, Loudred

Sir Palamedes: Naganadel, Nihiego, Celesteela, Karatana, Pheromosa and Xurkitree

Sir Agalvale: (will be normal type master)

Sir Lamorak:

Tors: (still a squire)

Culhwch: Spoink

Sir Meleagent:

Fisher King:

Elaine C.:

Ragnelle: Ditto, Zoroark

Lamorak: Sirfetch’d

Lord Bertilak: Sawsbuck (Summer Form), Meganium, Shiny Tangrowth, Sceptile, Berloom, Leavanny

Lady Bertilak: Jinx, Frolass, Deerling, Vulpix, Swinub

Kings/Ladies/Lords/Gym Leaders (full posts here, here, here and here; Gaheris and Morgause took over gyms after the older leader died)

Lady Annowre: Parasect, Shiftry, Abomasnow, Ferrothorn, Gogoat, Trevenant,

King Bagdemagus: Sharpedo, Politoed, Tentacruel, Closter, Samurott and Seimistoad

Queen Blancheflor: Gengar, Drifblim, Spiritomb, Cofagrigus, Jillicent and Pallosand

Lord Caradoc: Camerupt, Flareon, Talonflame, Pyroar (Female), Turtonator

Lord Cador: Jolteon, Ampharos, Luxray, Galvantula, Eelektross,

King Cilydd: Glalie, Glaceon, Mamoswine, Walrein, Vanilluxe and Crabominable

King Erec: Magnezone, Scizor, Probopass, Bronzong, Escalvelier and Klinklang

Sir Gaheris: Pidgeot, Dodrio, Noctowl, Swallow, Braviary and Toucannon (full post with Agravaine to come)

Sir Hector de Maris: Steelix, Marowak, Donphan, Claydol, Gastrodon (East Sea) and Hippowdon,

King Hoel: Kingdra, Alolan Exggutor, Dragonite, Garchomp, Druddigon, Dragalge

Lady Laudine: Tyranitar, Alolan Golem, Rhyperior, Magcargo, Probopass and Lycanroc (midnight form)

King Leodegrance: Houndoom, Alolan Muk, Weavile, Mighteyna, Cacturne and Bisharp

Sir Lionel: Medicham, Poliwrath, Manchamp, Hitmontop, Passimian and Kommo-o

King Mark: Pinsir, Kricketune, Scolipede, Crustle, Vikavolt and Ribombee

Queen Morgause: Beedrill, Nidoqueen, Galatian Weezing, Victribell, Dragalge and Toxapex (full post to come)

Lady Olwen: Mawile, Togekiss, Mr. Mime, Whimsicott, Slurpuff and Carbink

King Pellinore: Kangaskhan, Girafarig, Miltank, Slaking, Diggersby and Heliolisk,

King Urien: Metagross, Alolan Raichu, Wobbuffet, Sisilyph, Meowstic (male) and Oranguru

Druids: (full post of the Ladies of the Lake here)

Lady of the Lake 1: Swampert, Poliwrath, Slowking, Kingler, Omestar, Octillery and Araquanid has a special connection to Volcanion

Lady of the Lake 2 aka Vivianne: Slowpoke, Feraligatr, Lantern, Azumerill, Whimscash and Golispod Plus Manaphy

Lady of the Lake 3 aka Nimue: Blastoise, Starmie, Quagsire, Floatzel, Swanna, Drednaw and has a special connection to Keldeo

Lady of the Lake 4: Golduck, Pelliper, Gorebyss, Bibarel, Simipour and Bruxish

Merlin (currently in a tree on Torterra): Ninetails, Absol, Torterra, Lucario, Xatu, Drampa and he has a special connection to Celebi (full post here)

Historical Characters:

King Claudas: Venusaur, Weezing, Ariados, Swallow, Toxicroak, Amoonguss, (full post here)

Galehaut (not dead, just left to be with a new boyfriend that will treat him right): Arbak, Alolan Exggutor, Wailord, Abomasnow, Golurk and Wishiwashi

Sir Gorlois:

King Lot: Charizard (Mega Y), Gliscor, Tropius, Archeops, Emolga and Ocicorio (Psychic) (full post here)

Uther Pendragon: Salamence, Flygon, Haxorus, Hydreigon, Goodra and Noivern had a special connection to Reshiram (full post here)

[boypr1ncesss]

Same anon as bwfore - those are all valid hnoc complaints, i have a soft spot for it since it got me into arthuriana which is now a big special interest (also yk, the thing of making ur own Canon for a media piece in ur head that no one else knows abt)

Appologies for yelling in ur asks abt it, just trying to say I agree

Also sending asks so u can ramble abt ur gripes w hnoc if u wish (no pressure to)

yeah i Used to have the same perspective on it too but as time went on and i developed a stronger aversion to the mechs fandom (everyone say thanks to ts teeth hcs, dr c mischaracterization and any other piece of widely accepted fanon which ppl get weirdly overprotective of) + realized that hnoc Wasn't my actual introduction to arthuriana (shout out to dragon slayer's academy and this niche little vn which i pretended to have read for weeb clout when i was ~12 even though really i had just read the summary of it on a fandom wiki, it was called destiny/leave day or something like that?) an i'd just somehow forgotten about its predecessors + tried to fit my arthurian faves into hnoc-verse and realized that it just Didn't Work and realized just how bad it was in comparison to like. udad. which was soooo good and it just kinda. made me go a little bit insane and tanked my opinion of it. also my growing hatred of a/g/l due to med lit fandom drama (< bizzare series of words that Sure Does Exist) + modern arthuriana like in general probably fanned the flames.

anyways. i said almost everything i have to say about hnoc in the og tags (save for some parts that are less a hnoc issue and more of a discussion of th white/mzb/modern arthuriana in general or a frantic explanation of why it's ok when fate does it but when hnoc does it i'm mad and it's not hypocritical of me (< generally it boils down to 'arthurian lit is incredibly inaccessible to english speakers in 2023, imagine what it would've been like to japanese speakers in 2004, nasu did the best he could, meanwhile the mechs have demonstrated the ability to heavily research their albums and are english speakers who would've had university access (p much the only way to read anything other than le morte or sgatgk legally without breaking the bank) at the time they were working on it')) but i got cut off so i'll add a basic summary of the tags which tumblr couldn't handle bc my arthurian takes r 2 complex and well-thought out for it

basically re: "#and idk it just rings hollow to me for the adaptation which made all/most of its characters either lgbt or poc to have written out p much#all the arthurian characters who were originally poc (palomydes. priamus. ysabelle. feirefiz. isolde of ireland. etc.)" there was a second part of that sentence which also pointed out how almost all the academically/historically substantiated lgbt characters (palomydes, tristan, gawaine, galehaut, lancelot, sebile, morgan, galahad) were cut out or unrecognizable (lancelot and galahad fall under the unrecognizable category).

i also had the character assassination of gawaine as it's own point, as it's just. particularly bad and one of the main reasons why i dislike hnoc, as well as the reason why hnoc's world is so hostile to p much Every other arthurian story bc he's basically the main character of medieval arthuriana and he's now. . obligatory disclaimer that i'm not opposed to gawaine as a villain bc god knows i'm a palomydes stan above all and anyone with a passing interest in the tristan tradition will know that gawaine is a fucking asshole an a horrible person but like. he didn't have to be fucking racist. medieval gawaine is an incredibly complex and deeply deeply flawed character and hnoc boiled that all down to 'racist' which is. one of the few things medieval gawaine is not. and so now all the characters and stories that orbit him are dead in the water bc why would anyone want to read about the cartoon racist.

in general all of the hnoc characters seem like they were written to serve the plot and the co-opted into being the nearest arthurian character. not a single one resembles themself at all. the best example i can think of is galahad (who's actually my fave hnoc character) who just isn't. galahad. medieval galahad is young and has been worshipped and dehumanized all his life, the very reason he was conceived was bc a prophecy said he would be good and pure and would achieve the holy grail, and so he was raised like a holy relic for one purpose and one alone, to the point where, when he finally tries to make a friend in le morte, literal angels intervene to remind him of his purpose, and ultimately he did succeed in that purpose! and when he did he had nothing else to do but end his own life. hnoc galahad is never dehumanized nor worshipped or even liked. hnoc galahad is viewed as a crazy person but a person nonetheless, and hnoc galahad genuinely wants the grail. the two are connected by name alone and it's the same w everyone else. medieval lancelot will always return to guinnevere, and she is the source of both his loyalty and sense of self, and he will destroy anything that poses a threat to her, hnoc lancelot genuinely cares abt camelot and uhm. human life. medieval mordred wasn't actually arthur's son in most texts and kinda just tagged along w his brothers' plans (particularly agravaine's) and ultimately took over camelot bc agravaine was dead and it was the next logical step to take considering all they'd done before, if you want something really interesting mordred-wise the alliterative morte gives him genre awareness but his lamentations of his fate are centered around the uhm. fratricide. and not arthur, hnoc mordred views arthur as his whole world which his Only brother gawaine is comparatively a footnote in, and has motivations which are truly his own. medieval guinn is politically savvy and stuck in a loveless marriage unable to fulfill her one purpose as queen (to have an heir) and thus centers herself around lancelot and his devotion to her to cope, hnoc guinn is a gunslinger. idrc enough abt arthur to analyze him but ultimately it's easy to see that These Are Not The Same Ppl in the way that like. myth orpheus, ulysses, narcissus etc. and udad orpheus, ulysses, narcissus etc. are. even in like. ouat(is) where the characters are Obviously Different People from their fairy tale counterparts, they exist in a form of commentary on their other selves, and the ouat(is) approach to characters is true for the prisoner of dorian gray + frankenstein as well. hnoc has no commentary on the original arthurian characters bc it Doesn't know who they are, the characters in hnoc are meant to be the arthurian characters in a different setting like in udad and tbi (the latter i can't speak on bc i don't norse myth and don't tbi). and it gets them wrong.

tl;dr uhm. the mecha arthurian vn that lives in my head wouldn't do this to me