#clancy theory

[potatomoonjuice]

Do you think Clancy started wearing the mask because the banditos associate his face too much with Good Day Dema?

[jaegerxian]

[rina3slay]

tyler is so slay HAHAHA

I tried ✨️✨️

[entertainmyfa1th]

the CHAOS of london n2??

(slight tw: mentions of choking)

(📸 from ctmylip on twitter)

clancy didn't even LOOK at torchbearer, almost confirming that he can't see him. and he DIDN'T. TAKE. THE. JACKET.

poor torchbearer had to be by himself :( AND HE WAS STILL HOLDING CLANCYS JACKET TOO. im so done.

okay but seriously like what the hell is going on with clancy. it's unsure if he became a bishop because he thankfully didn't wear a robe on london n2, but there are still various hints and implications that he IS a bishop.

that final letter was clancy leading himself to power and taking over that power for himself, and so hes fucking THROWING AWAY TORCHBEARER.

so the fact that clancy is starting to forget and go against what the banditos stand for (remember the FPE and how it potentially represents clancy's memories, then being blacked out and destroyed?) could mean that he's turning into a bishop.

..but this could ALSO mean that clancy's going his own way, since after walking away from torchbearer he blinded himself with his stole.

and not only that, he was choking himself with it multiple times throughout the show. clancy could either:

be trying to get back in control of himself because maybe this isn't the path he wanted.

be dead. (AAAGDGXGZHSH WHAT THE FUCK)

im actually terrified of whats to come. OHH CLANCY AND TORCHBEARER PLS KISS AND MAKE UP OR SMTH WE MISS YOU 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔

[hxwk-art]

Absolutely everyone after Clancy didn't take the jacket :

Original video by @/lostmymarbelsagain on TikTok

[ettengiv]

I think the new shirt as well as the letter confirm my Dark!Clancy theory

Clancy is falling into darkness and losing himself causing him to forget everything. Meanwhile Nico/Blurryface are in him. They are louder than Clancy's own thoughts but also louder than Torchie.

In the core of the inner Tyler there are bunnies which stand for anxiety, fear, instinct, stress.

We also see black shadows seeping out from the inner Tyler into the body of the outer Tyler. This I believe is supposed to show BF's/ Nico's influence.

The picture in whole looks like an out of body experience type of thing to me. Clancy is disassociating and forgetting (last being indicated in the letter). The song Navigating might also have been a spoiler for what is happening with Tyler.

Now the letter… I think this is confirming the theories of Clancy turning dark. But I don’t think he does it with awareness. I think its because of Nico/Blurryface's influence. And Torchie knows something is wrong and going on with Clancy, he just doesn’t know what and tries to remind Clancy of what they wanted to accomplish. But the other Banditos seem to believe that Clancy is aware. After all they won against the bishops. I think they believe that they believe that all of the bishops including Nico died, which is why they don’t understand Clancy's tyrannic behavior.

Furthermore the letter got signed by a person named "Magnus". This immediately reminded me of the Magnus-Effect. The Magnus effect is the change of a direction of an spinning object due to pressure. (For example: You shoot a ball towards a point X. Due to the caused spin the pressures around the ball are different, it causes the ball to curve direction and hit point Y instead of X). In Clancy's case this is him spiraling. The magnus-effect changes his direction from freedom/peace/life to tyranny/death

[drcaspiancrow]

yea I just got out of the shower and thought of another dema theory/thoughts. I'm clocked in 24/7 guys it's a hard job.

anyways.

Tyler has been telling us from the beginning of the album cycle what would happen. the first single, announcing the new era was overcompensate. Tyler has said in interviews that Clancy (the album) is Clancy (the character) coming into his own, and accepting his leadership role.

This entire time, Clancy has been running from his identity as the exception; the only person that can seize, the only one that can take down the bishops. This whole time, he's been trying (and failing) to be just a normal person. But time and time again, he's proven to be different from everyone else. He wants to just run away from the bishops, not defeat them. but he is always taken back to dema somehow, and somehow, he always escapes.

So after he finally accepts his role in defeating the bishops on voldsoy, he overcompensates. After running away for so long, he instead runs head first into danger. dangerous bend symbol and all that. but also, his mindset shifts as well.

It starts out fine, he's more willing to lead everyone and takes on the burdens that come with that, he's a little reckless, sure, but sometimes you need that with this sort of thing. But soon, internally, he starts to think that maybe since only he can defeat the bishops, he alone has to. And y'know maybe because he has this special power maybe he's almost better than everyone else. actually maybe he's the only one that can lead Dema to its full glory.

Clancy's role of defeating the bishops was meant by Torch as "we can do most of it together, but Clancy has to do the final blow" ut instead Clancy takes his status as the exception to be "I, and only I can ever defeat the bishops. I have to lead the rest of you guys" which isn't really what Torch was saying lmao.

So in the final battle, Clancy gets this big idea to do everything alone. and Torch can't really stop him. So thats why Torch needs to BREACH the tower (and Clancy) and go "wtf dude get off that high horse man ur being stupid. also take my freaking jacket."

I seriously dont know why I ever thought anything else.

[blurryface-never-left]

Been really thinkin of what Tyler meant by "Over take your former self". What former self is he talking about? Is he talking about the person he was when he was a blind believer in Dema? Is he referring to the person he was when he started siding with Trench? Is this a subtle hint to how his newfound powers are slowly taking over his sense of self, and turning him power hungry? Maybe draining his morals? He did seem pretty proud of himself for controlling some poor guys body...

[ettengiv]

I thought about this too!! Like my theory is that Tyler did create dema to cope. But Clancy is not the first cycle. I think all the banditos were once former cycle identities of Clancy and Torchie. I think like they did "die" in their cycles and got recycled to be the Banditos to help the new cycle to break, which is the Clancy cycle.

Someone also made a powerpoint that Clancy is not the Clancy from the letters which I also kinda agree with. It could be a former cycle identity. And the new cycle adopts that name because he finds the letters and wants to reach what past-cycle!Clancy wanted to reach.

I think this because the characters are based of something. The bishops and blurryface are based on fears and trauma. Torchie is very likely based on a dear friend, who is like a light to Tyler, so who are the Banditos? It could be his family, but it also could be former cycles. Because when you experience something traumatic it is very likely that you have to go trough several cycles. It is normal to have fall backs. Its a process that needs time.

We also now that Torchie does not really exist and is just a hallucination (see the outside mv or navigating where Torchie disappears). This supports the theory that everything is in Tyler's head. Torchie is just the guiding light to help the new cycle (Clancy) to find truth, acceptance and peace. Its also worth to note that Torchie appears when Clancy is ready to fight against Tyler's trauma. Like when Clancy steps into Trench outside Dema, Torchie and the banditos appear and they help him.

I think Dark!Clancy era will not end in death or anything. I think Torchie might find a way to reach Clancy. Maybe we will get songs from Torchie's pov to reach Clancy. I think the Clancy cycle is the last one and he will manage to close Nico and Blurryface away deep down inside him, since a past and trauma will always be a part of you but you can move on. You can win. You can continue. Things will get better.

All this talk of bishop!/dark!clancy has me thinking about "i created this world to feel some control, destroy it if i want" I've always taken this as tyler talking meaning the lore is a coping mechanism for him and that's why he created this world so maybe (don't really believe this tho) he is going in a dark direction to destroy this world and be done with it and open for new things creatively etc.

But if that line is part of the lore and comes from clancy then it could be very different. I haven't thought abiut this a lot but what if some earlier incarnation of clancy created dema but it didn't go as he planned/it was also only a coping mechanism for him to not have to deal with whatever and now he's taking back the power to destroy it after going to the cycle so many times?

[silverlininghills]

"300 tracks"

you know those hand signals tyler does during the line "300 tracks in my Adidas track jacket"?

i, like probably everyone else, assumed that was him signing 3-0-0 with his hands.

but no. he's signing F-0-0.

consider the ASL signs for F vs 3:

yeah, he's definitely signing F there

so what does F-0-0 mean? well, funny thing about that--you know hexcodes? those 6 digit codes that indicate a specific colour? well, there are also three digit codes as well, where you basically double each number to get the full 6 digit code. wanna guess what #F00 is?

yup, that's pure red babey!!

and, better yet, wanna know what its complementary colour is?

why it's pure cyan of course!!! y'know, like the whole __cla_im00FFFF.jpg = CLAIM CYAN = I AM CLANCY thing.

tyler, you sneaky sneaky bastard.

[potatomoonjuice]

Tyler said this tour is a flashback of the past. So if the songs are being removed, lore-wise it should mean that Clancy is slowly forgetting the past right?

'The Line' has a lot more to do with the lore than I thought.

"But I'd rather you not be here for What could be my final form" The new bandito letter calls Clancy tyrannical. There's a possibility that it's no longer Clancy. Blurryface has or is taking over. He's fearing how ppl will see him differently after his final form takes over.

"Stay your pretty eyes on course" This is possibly him telling others to keep fighting even if he's taken over.

"Keep the memories of who I was before" Clancy's pleading to be remembered as who he used to be and what he stands for, not what he's becoming. "So stay with me because" is maybe asking Torchbearer to stay before he's taken over.

"Please don't let them see me Sure there's nothing left to try I can feel the light shine on my face" He doesn't want the banditos to see him going when there's no hope in saving him. Clancy thinks of himself as a disappointment for not being able to fight it. He feels he'll be cast out.

"I can feel the light shine on my face" Clancy finds himself at the end of the tunnel no longer able to return.

[rina3slay]

and when this fix passes, I will start making content myself ✍✍✍

[poisonkeroseneandcheapchampagne]

Do Tyler and Josh know its legal now and they don't have to create doomed yaoi?

[hxwk-art]

Dear Mr. Tyler Joseph, I know that's wrong. According to the Trench-Clancy lore, my child (Torchbearer) exists, I'm not the one, or the two, so please send my child home at three. Try Jesus, don't try me,

Lin

[ettengiv]

ness i need to know what you think about the theory that tyler is not the original clancy please i am going insane over here

I LOVE THE THEORY!!!!!✨✨✨

Like it makes sense to me. I saw like a powerpoint of this on here that letter_Clancy ins not the same Clancy we have right now. And I agree

It makes sense to me because this is definitely not the first cycle Tyler goes trough. I think in dema Tyler had several names before one for each cycle he went trough. And we know that he didn’t win any of these cycles before because he always got captured. Which makes sense because trauma takes its time to heal. You will have to go trough many many cycles til you are considered healed. Its a long process and you will have several setbacks. And with every setback you are stronger for the next cycle. This is why I also think that the banditos are all former cycles of current_Clancy and Torchie that also only appear to help current_Clancy.

I think current_Clancy found the letters of letter_Clancy, who was under the bishop Keons and thats how current_Clancy learns/becomes aware of how he could make it out of the cycle.

I think its another reason why Keons dies. He was betraying the other bishops several times. He was fond of letter_Clancy???? Letter_Clancy also didnt describe him as cold and cruel as the others. If I remember correctly letter_Clancy also never met Nico in person? But current_Clancy did.

Letter_Clancy wanted to escape to get away from the depressing gray hole he is kinda captured inside. He was like a bird in a cage with no awareness of the actual trauma??? Which then later captures and kills him.

Current_Clancy finds the letters after being captured and takes on the name of letter_Clancy as a form of Rebellion and to let the curious and creative part of Tyler stay alive

[drcaspiancrow]

crack theory but not really just and idea:

okay okay so we all know the shirts tyler wears every night on tour has soke specific coincidence. and the LATAM tour specifically had the bishops patterns in red, with a code spelling clancy as the last one after all the bishops (do with that what you will)

what if: hear me out. the plain, white shirt tyler wore at the Ohio blue jackets game they just did has some significance???

like the specific idea of it being instead of a white shirt with a bunch of pictures relating to an idea (idk if we've figured out what yet) and bishops. it's just white. plain. almost like something that's finished, or restarted, maybe. idk.

or they specifically chose a plain white shirt to not be lore related. cause if he wore one of the ones he's already worn, everyone would look too much into it.