#cod zombies lore

[amonisweird]

I saw a post like this on Instagram but it was with Gorillaz and I thought about this😂

[kino-der-joon]

Why is primis richtofen such a dick to Samantha? He’s nowhere near as bad as Ultimis, but telling this 10 year old you want to leave her trapped in Agartha for all eternity is still kind of harsh. I get she (accidentally) drove Primis Maxis insane but still 😭😭😭 Cmon man

💫 Hello, hello!! Aaaa!! Thank you for your question, though, you did partly answer it yourself ;;; But, let’s get into it!!✨

💫 The line that you’re referring to is said in Origins, and to understand why he lashed out so harshly at a child, we first need to understand his mental state at the beginning of Origins. To do this, let’s recap the events before the accident!

“Were it up to me, I would leave you in Agartha for eternity, Samantha!” - Primis Richtofen, Origins.

💫 So, during the dig in Northern France, the zombie hoard was awoken and unleashed. Richtofen blames himself for this, we can see this in a voice line he has where he claims it as an accident, but still takes soul responsibility.

“Did I do something? I mean, apart from accidentally unleashing the zombie hoard.” - Primis Richtofen, Origins.

�� He also lost Maxis, but it’s more than just that. Richtofen was an orphaned child, and when he was under Maxis’ tutelage, they formed a found family bond. That man is a father figure to him, and someone he cares deeply about. He follows what Maxis says blindly throughout the story because he trusts him so heavily. Their bond is near unbreakable.

✨ As you said, Samantha drove Maxis insane, a voice in his head that wouldn’t go away. While it was never intentional, what we need to remember is that Richtofen was watching Maxis go down that road of insanity. He was helpless to do nothing but watch as his father figure’s mind was spiralling out from under him.

✨ Richtofen lost Maxis, we know this, but I’d argue he actually lost him twice. Once when Maxis was in the grip of insanity with Samantha’s voice in his head, and once again when Richtofen had to lobotomise him. We can see through how he talks to Samantha that he is angry, grieving and also confused- He doesn’t know what’s happening yet. He doesn’t know the origins of the chalk drawings, he doesn’t believe Agartha exists until later on in the Origins map. He blames Samantha for everything that’s happening, and given that he has a line taking accountability for the hoard, I think the heavy blame that he shoves onto Samantha is projection and grief. He has no one else to blame aside from the one little voice that drove his father figure insane and he has no understanding of the logic defying state of what’s around him. In grief, anger and confusion, we’re all prone to saying things we don’t actually mean.

“They’re appearing all around us! ARE YOU BEHIND THIS, SAMANTHA?!” - Primis Richtofen, Origins.

“Make sure you tell Samantha that we are going to win!” - Primis Richtofen, Origins.

“You’re toying with me aren’t you, Samantha?” - Primis Richtofen, Origins.

✨ When we get to The Giant, he doesn’t accuse Samantha of causing anything. When he mentions her, his tone comes off as more inquisitive and light, sometimes even playful. If he truly meant what he said about leaving her trapped, he’d still show aggression. He might also have a crisis about what to do since helping Maxis helps Samantha in turn, but he doesn’t. When mentioning the children in the house, he doesn’t exclude Samantha from that either.

“Did you put these chalk drawing here, Samantha?” - Primis Richtofen, The Giant. (Said with less aggression than his attitude towards her in Origins.)

“Maxis, Samantha, Eddie. They are safe…” - Primis Richtofen, Zetsubo No Shima

✨ In short, I believe that line was born from grief, anger, confusion, and wasn’t actually meant at all. Now, does all of this excuse blowing up at a child? No, not really. But, I also don’t think it’s fair to hold that against him- Not saying that you are!! I’m just speaking generally.

💫 I’m always down to yap about Primis Richtofen, so thank you for the ask!! I hope I was able to give you a fresh perspective on the matter! ✨

✨ NEXT !! > ⭐️

[deadunderorbit]

MWIII ZOMBIES minor spoilers

LOOK AT HIM!!!!

[m-s-justice]

once again posting meta. I wanna munch on the cycle. have lunch with me. TL;DR I think the Cycle is fundamentally flawed and fails as a narrative tool.

so like. is it necessary? I know that sounds stupid but let me yap. So, to rephrase "is it necessary?" to a more specific "what does it do for the narrative?" it pays off origins (and DE, to some extent) like obviously it's a loop we saw their statues. and we have hindsight. but what does it actually do?

Read More because this is LOOOOOOOONG I'm not exaggerating ↓

Time loops are stagnancy. Cycles usually entail a sort of inevitability that's born out of either immutable fate or one's own actions. In very interesting stories, it's usually both. It's usually a device that forcefully makes the character that's looping Go Through Stuff. Sometimes it's recognizing the fault in your actions, giving the character a new zest for life, sometimes it's a "man wouldn't it be fucked up if you were in a loop" but most of the time it's metaphorical for something!

what purpose does the Cycle serve? what is the Cycle saying or doing or representing?

fuuuuck if I know!

Let's see what actions put the bo3 cast into the loop!

They drink the blood of the mobsters to avoid getting wiped from existence by Monty. Richtofen planned this specifically, so to some extent the loop is intentional.

but like. why is that necessary? why is that the mechanism by which they preserve themselves? why would Monty ever consider wiping them if he's omniscient (to a degree) and knows it's a time loop because by definition them being in the past has Already Happened. But let's go a step further. Why Loop At All?

it complicates more than it preserves because the circumstances of the loop are not perfect. They Change things that cannot be undone by Monty simply moving them back through time and space to set up their future - past journey.

Do the kids in the house cease to exist once revelations is over? And "dimensional fracture" can only really be done once since they are entire universes with histories even if they diverge, they retroactively have always existed. The "shattering" cannot be a sort of "shatter-verse" where the off shoot parallel dimensions exist only as shards and reflections of the Original Timeline, because the universes existed before that as infinite worlds seeded with different potential via the Summoning Key by the uh I forgot it's name so I'll Elden Ring it up and call it the One Great from which all things originate. So the dimensional fractures were created the very first time Ultimis Richtofen was killed and then retroactively Always Existed and will thus continue to until... Nikolai Agarthans on his Device until he Elaborate Murder-Suicide

So like ok tangent over about that but what I'm getting at here is that the sequence of events that happen are Continuous and Circuitous. They have Already Happened, are currently Happening, and will Happen in the Future. Sofia getting sent to Revelations and dying with Maxis happens. But why would she reappear again if in the past, she's already been sent away by your past selves? Is she part of the loop? I wouldn't think so because she's not Primis. Why does Samantha cry out for help if she already knows she's never leaving the House because Revelations has happened billions of times and will happen billions more? and if Samantha is "reset" so to speak, that makes no fucking sense. Her Entry into the House is entirely unrelated to the Loop. She's put there by Ultimis Maxis and stays there until Revelations//AO. Her time there is strictly linear from her perspective. but if that's the case, why does everything get reset? I doubt it's Monty doing that because... that's not really what he does?

Monty is an interesting critter. He is essentially God, particularly the Christian one as the text itself alludes to. All powerful, omniscient, yet abides by the concept of "free will" and so he's marked by passive action. Nudges, influences, little hidden messages sneaked in to give you a clue, his presence implied on maps by a red scarf as opposed to the Shadow Man who boldly and bodily appears whenever he's able to. As seen with Primis, any direct action he takes must be subtle. unnoticeable. Hence why he loops them, so that it "works out perfectly". He wouldn't just upturn all of the fractures because wouldn't that impede on the people's inside of them? their "free will"? their existences are just as real as their originators. Monty wouldn't interfere with it by virtue of his own self imposed limitations.

but like ok whatever shut up justice and get to the point. Is the loop necessary?

I don't think so. It muddies the plot. And I'm fine with time loops as a concept, I am a Homestuck fan, but this one feels... sloppy. The small ones that happen, like Richtofen giving blood to his past self, that feels fine because it's a perfect loop. His own future seeds his past and vice versa. Nothing else is affected, other than the consequences of the loop that are his friends now knowing looping is possible and that he's now in possession of the blood.

But ok ok so what? it's a bit of a sloppy narrative but that's the point. the Loop sucks. that's why bo4 is about breaking it. because ending the loop is the other half of the narrative. Looping is a set piece, a set up, an instrument meant to push the narrative, breaking it, or just escaping it, is the narrative payoff, the completion of the arc.

so how does the loop break? A random guy that our crew has never once talked to nor even know exists manages to break his own, very literally rewriting fate.

Wow that is fucking ass. And not just because of the retcon of MotD, which I am very depressed about, but narratively speaking? for our protagonists? it sucks. they didn't do it, the breaking of the loop just happens to them. Richtofen doesn't sacrifice himself and cements, at least this version of himself, as the selfless, "nicest one", but because he's forced to do it by fate. It's not his choice, he was backed into a corner. it's either die one time and everyone else escapes or everyone dies infinitely. easy option.

but even from a Watsonian perspective, it fails. BotD is a "trap" to kill Richtofen? Well, in the LITERAL SAME MAP another Richtofen shows up and replaces him. Like... why is that even allowed? Why would the Warden or the Shadow Man just allow popsicle Richtofen to stay there? if you wanted to kill him, then just turn off the pod. that makes it so he, inevitably, dies there since all past Richtofens will eventually become that Future Richtofen via Revelations which is now no longer a viable path, then you kill the sole current one via the dark mechanism. boom. Edward dead, just like you wanted.

it's just so shit. It doesn't push the themes, it doesn't make any sense for people who interact with the loop, and breaking it was via the most contrived asspull imaginable that doesn't even have the guts to give the consequences of the map any weight.

I love this story and it's characters but I will never pretend that it's a masterpiece, or even well written. Does anyone want to share what Primis was doing while Richtofen was looping for years? Does anyone want to talk about why Monty is evil and somehow corrupted by the Dark Aether despite never interacting with it? Or how Samantha's Aether powers persisted in BO4 despite being "purified" by Monty and being allowed into the New Universe because of said purity? or why Richtofen had to collect his child self's soul, but it was apparently okay to collect the adult versions of Ultimis even though we know both Dempsey and that version of Takeo were experimented on by 115 and were thereby equally "tainted"? Why was Victis looping in Die Rise?

yet again I stand alone, gazing through my bleak window, painted in drops of falling rain. "No one understands", I murmur. I am left with the silence with my musings with the only response being that of the singing water playing a melody on the glass.

[leg0sbian]

yall think they were fed up wit his shit y or n

[shinmiyovvi]

Another redesign of Len, because I haven't talked about her for a long time now :'>

(For those who don't know Len or forgot about her, she is the Agarthan version of Val (Ultimis) who escaped Aether (That is now banished into the Dark Aether) with Samantha and Eddie to start a new life in a universe far away from the Dark Aether's corruption.)

Here is the pattern of her vest (apologies for the low quality):

[gorodkrovi]

did anyone else used to think richtofen was named rick tophen or is that just me. i spent years calling him rick 😭

[selbstverbrennung]

you guys remember back when we used to call ultimis by 1.0 and primis by 2.0? man

[moss-ball69]

I like Black ops 3 because I seen this 8 ball a lot

[flamewritesstuff]

This is a bad year for call of duty fans

[kino-der-joon]

💫Yapping About the Ultimis Easter Egg + Crew Interaction!!✨

✨ I was doing some research for an ask, and I remembered I found this!! This is the ultimis crew going through the Easter Egg on Shangri La! Enjoy!! ✨

The original video is HERE! ✨

💫For context: Because of some time travel shinanigans, the crew have came from the easter egg in BO1 (Call of the Dead,) to Shangri La! ✨

✨ Takeo presumably drank too much during that Easter Egg and didn’t have any lines, he just vomited the entire time! (I personally think that, that was a result of his voice actor being written out in a creative way. Maybe his VA was sick, or tied up with another project, so having Takeo be too sick to speak was a very clever and funny way of getting around that!!) ✨

✨ As for this map, Shangri La, it isn’t the first time Richtofen has been here, so him seeming shocked at certain points of this Easter Egg is interesting! It’s probably due to the memory loss that comes with constant exposure to element 115. Though, it could also be him acting, and here’s why:

✨ Richtofen was the first ever ‘successful’ test subject for the teleporter that he and Dr.Schuster were working on. He lived after he was teleported, but he didn’t end up where they thought he would. Instead, he ended up on the moon, and then he got whizzed away to Shangri La! The people here were an old tribe who had their own secluded culture away from society, and Richtofen taught them about hydropower, electricity and more advanced ways for them to live! Because of that, they built him an altar and praised him as a God! When Nikolai wonders why they have a trash compactor in an ancient temple, Richtofen’s response sounds very… “ 👉👈 “ Don’t you think? I think he’s also the reason they have a trash compactor and he’s acting innocent because he can’t quite remember why they’re there fully, but knows he has something to do with it! :3 ✨

💫 This whole Easter Egg is so cool to me because it’s basically by Richtofen’s design! I don’t think he accounted for the time travel part, but he himself put the focusing stone on the altar and trapped it up. He himself is the reason zombies are even here in the first place, and he himself has literally BEEN there before!! ✨

[bennylikesstars]

I'm getting into the Call Of Duty Zombies lore. Like. I'm falling for it HARD. I think it might be a new hyperfixation but to be fair I'm not gonna call it that yet considering I only watched my siblings play it growing up but never played it myself.

[jayspilledink]

Zombies and Speedsters is badass

someone gave me the idea to combine Call of Duty Zombies and Eobard Thwane and ive never been so inspired before thats so badass

i need to draw. but first. im going to play BO3

[naturalbornlosers]

can you post the BENN album link publicly?

sorry same anon, to specify, the original Z.1(ascend, disection, etc) album you found on your laptop. if yiu still have it?

what am i if not a man of the people. here you go. but i also highly encourage you to buy the actual album itself, which i found out tonight is still available for purchase!

[m-s-justice]

they were teleported off of him when he went through the portal and then his regular shabby gay vest was teleported onto him. this happened in less than a second btw.

Thinking about how post revelations Richtofen came dripped out in his Templar outfit during BOTD and then managed a wardrobe change by the next map. Like, did he stow the clothing away in the lab? Or did he awkwardly undress his dead counterpart after everyone left? Or, unforeseen third possibility, he had the duds underneath the whole time and ripped that crusading dress off like a pair of tearaway pants at a house party.

[kino-der-joon]

Hi, Joon!

What are your thoughts on Peter McCain and Dempsey?

I could yap for hours

💫 Hello, hel— Al Arlington? Is that you?! ✨

💫 Honestly, I’m so glad that they gave Peter McCain a new lease on life!! It was so interesting to see him connected to Green Arrow !! He was just a freaky body in Shi no Numa originally (who could insta kill you if you poked with him too much, fun fact!!) and it’s super cool to see him play a bigger role later on in the story!! I’m also happy that he’s connected to Dempsey too! We were so used to seeing Dempsey on his own, not connected to anyone else but Richtofen, and then suddenly he’s given another character to share a connection with!!

✨ I haven’t heard any of his lines about Peter McCain, but it’s certainly something I need to get around to!! In short, I love what they did!!

💫 I’m also open to a yapping session, I’d love to see what your thoughts are too!! ✨

💫 And thank you for helping out Primis Richtofen in Alcatraz, it was very kind! I’d give you a Kronorium if I could! 📖 😌✨