#elmike curtains

[gayofthefae]

Who would have ever seen coming that, like every previous season epilogue, it foreshadowed the following season. (Will throwing up slugs, Hop leaving El food; Mike pushing Will away at the Snow Ball, the mind flayer hovering; Max sad in Billy's room, El saying "I love you";...)

And I just noticed! When she hugs Hop the yellow curtains are open! As we know, representing honesty - unlike when she was in her room with Mike but like when she confronted him! She is free and open and this joy and relationship are honest here reflected by the curtains!

mike and will are always together in s5 and even split off as a duo at one point, while el splits off with hopper. textbook foreshadowing

who would’ve ever seen this coming…it’s not like the last 2 one on one scenes of s4 in the EPILOGUE aka the biggest moments of s5 foreshadowing were el and hopper with light shining on them and mike and will with light shining on mike’s hand on will’s shoulder

[gayofthefae]

Going through all these scenes and noticing how frequently Mike does something and we don't see his expected emotional reaction to the event until after everyone else's. And the implication there that he's reacting to their reactions.

There was no reason for him to get two reaction shots to the same first kiss in 1x08. The second, when he smiles, would have to be a reaction shot to her smiling.

It was extremely sudden and required unnecessary cutting together to cut away from Mike saying "I love her" SO immediately as they did with ZERO time to show any surprise on his face. We don't see his reaction until we've covered everyone else in the room first.

You know what they say. The tell tale sign of a liar is they're constantly checking to make sure you believe them. Mike is constantly shown in shot order to react to other's reactions. Take their cues on how to behave around the situation. He is consistently seen with a smile fading after the other person looks away.

From the beginning, he has CONSTANTLY been taking the cues of those around him to act off of, constantly trying to convince them of *something*. Hmm...

(that's the thing about immersion in biased POVs. He successfully convinced you for a while, didn't he? I'm glad. He worked really hard at it.)

[kittykat940]

bestie!!! ❤️ i just woke up and we have a possible coming out scene being shot? im ASCENDING.

bestie! i am so glad your back and yes we do and maybe a milkvan break up we are so getting platonic elmike also that finn pic of him sitting in mikes room on the chair with the yellow curtains in the background with the bright light i think hes looking at the painting we got sm crumbs today bestie im freaking out

[cleradinel]

I'm really live and let live with hcs and theories, but i think i just really don't get the bi Mike thing. Because i keep seeing people say Mike is bi but when i actually see the posts explaining why (which is Really rare too, it's usually just treated as 'clearly obvious' which is also interesting) there's always scenes getting ignored. Things like Mike kissing El and obviously caring about her immensely get mentioned, but then the sibling and cousin coding (even right before their first kiss) just gets ignored. "Boys only" isn't worth analyzing, it's just wording (but Will saying "a day free of girls" is still obviously gay coding). Mike not kissing El back in s3 gets acknowledged but him pulling her hands off his face at the beginning of the season doesn't get mentioned. Everyone having posters of people they're attracted to (Nancy, Steve, etc) on their walls is just accepted as fact but Mike only having posters of buff guys still means he's into girls. And so on

What's even wilder is that I've seen multiple people claim they Don't think Mike was ever into El but still think he's bi which is just. ?. I don't get it. Because outside of El he hasn't shown anything you could even Pretend is attraction to girls. Canonically he's had little contact with girls because they "think he's gross", didn't care for Max when she showed up, didn't care for the dragonslayer princess or Phoebe Cates, doesn't have any female fictional characters he admires, AND didn't get Argyle falling for pretty girl Eden. El is really the only thing you could sort of try to justify any attraction to girls in any capacity (and even that's rocks in canon)

Bi Mike just confuses me because all posts arguing in favour of it always ignore certain scenes. And yeah obviously, they have to it's because you just can't explain them from the bi angle. It's just odd to me that so many people argue it's equally as canon supported as gay Mike when there's multiple instances that have to be overlooked for the theory to hold up. Not trying to sound rude, hcs are obviously cool, i just don't get why bi Mike is argued to be canon so much when the show contradicts it multiple times (coming from a bi person btw)

i'm a live and let live too ! i'm no headcanon police and i am nobody to tell you what to do or how to think. i like pointing stuff out i find interesting and if those things i'm pointing out (and many others have pointed out) leads me to believe wholeheartedly mike is gay, i'll allow myself to be passionate about that. (get heated ? sometimes i admit) (because i think it's an important thing to take into account when discussing him/elmike/byler/the narrative/where we've been and where we're going yadda yadda yadda)

i've seen bi mike posts that are more on the analysis side, but then those posts go on to say something like mike wasn't regretting telling will to dance with the girl (i don't think mike was like "no come back i am so consciously in love with you" at all, but more so "well this has me feeling In Ways i don't want to describe or think about) at the snowball, or that the ending of s3 is just solely about him being sad to see el and will go (i agree he is obviously sad about that, but literally what were those two back to back byler and elmike scenes about, considering their nature and content, if not mike getting confirmation he wants to date his dude bestie ? which i really, really think is the conclusion to his "i have an idea, boys only" moment) so again, even if we're both analyzing, we're truly not analyzing in the same way. i can't take those things as proof coming from a show that keeps hammering it over our heads that we have to think deeper and pull back the curtain. they don't want you to think of these scenes as nothing more than they appear on surface level. these are ga kinds of interpretations of these scenes. most of them saw a mike sad to be bidding his friends goodbye, you on the other hand, if you're trying to decipher what mike is thinking and what he's about, should probably be seeing something else.

everything you listed applying to both mike and will and definitely not to lucas and dustin (these two especially as way closer in age than like. steve and have way more scenes together) is something you should notice but alas- pretty girl eden was there to mock love at first though. even jonathan doesn't care for that haha i'll have to disagree on that being gay mike proof. if anything it's mike is a dirty little liar monologuing a lie proof.

i'll leave you with this : headcanons are cool, i don't care what you do with them. i hope you're having fun (i truly am) but *i* disagree it's as supported by canon as the gay hc. i, as in me myself and i, and if you disagree with me that is completely fine. you should be and feel free to do whatever you want with mike when you spin him around in your head for fun trying to understand who he is. but i will never not be confused by bi mike, as i think it is quite obvious he is gay.

[gayofthefae]

And curtains associated with Elmike

Closed....then open

Windows associated with byler

Hrrrmmm(mincraft villager)

[henrysglock]

Now I'm curious- what's the most now-baffling you used to have?

Here are my top 5:

I'll be real...I used to be a Henry hater. I used to take him at face value as a little sadist who was made worse by his circumstances because I was so focused on Will's side of things. Which...its funny because I could feel that there was something weird about the situation, but I wrote it off as nothing until people started throwing the words "psychopath" and "nihilist" around. If you know me, you know I have a Thing about being correct re: terminology. Psychopath/Nihilist are not the right terms for Vecna, and it bugged me enough that I started arguing on his behalf. That coincided with the "spiders being symbolic of predators vs Virginia's vision" analysis, and it was all downhill from there kdjfjsdhkjsd

I used to be apathetic about Victor. I thought he was a Ted-type character who was willfully ignorant of everything going on with Virginia...and then the Henry analysis started and it became clear that Victor is very much a Joyce-type character, just misinformed. Now I love him to bits because I understand him and how much love he had for his famliy.

I used to be a dead-set Willel=Literal Twins/Will=012 truther. Now, I'm very much leaning towards elmike being related via the Creels because they're both the most authentic in ST1, which happens to be the season where lots of family references are made, and willel being "twins" but only really twins when El is hiding as Jane/pulling personality traits from Will due to the uncertainty of being in a new setting. As soon as she's being herself again, she's back to the same hairstyle and color palette (white/pink) she had in ST1.

I used to be dead-set against El being a Creel and Mike having powers...and now I think that they're both related to the Creels, and that Mike has Leia-type powers in comparison to El's Luke-type powers.

I used to think Ted didn't have a character arc, but I see his growth now and I'm like "yikes, tumblr user henrysglock...pull back the curtain, will ya?"

Everyone look away...I was crawling backwards for a little while okay then I got thumped on my head and now I'm crawling forwards :')