#evil discourse i see

[zombieboyarise]

i like that in many ways tumblr is still the worst website to be on

[an-urgent-appeal]

genuinely baffled by how some people see homura as evil. how on earth do you watch rebellion and come to that conclusion

[quaggyday]

Its fine if you see Kanji as straight or use she/her for Naoto. I appreciate how Kanji's storyline is about accepting that its okay to not have masculine hobbies and how queerness and toxic masculinity are linked. I appreciate how rooted in a Japanese subtext Naoto's story is and how your going to have to understand it from a different perspective of a different life. Both of these characters I like and find interesting.

But I swear, if another Youtuber or other says in some variation "Thinking Naoto or Kanji's stories are queer means your MISSING THE POINT OF THE THEMES OF TRUTH IN P4" or that as they are in canon their arcs are perfect and not needing any sort of change and are not at all at least a little dated or problematic" I am going to start screeching.

[ruffbunny]

“growing up is going from billdip to billf/rd” growing up is realizing shipping is harmless and we all have bills and shit to pay and god above it does not actually matter outside of the online discourse bubble like…. It really doesn’t.

Please just go do something that makes you happy instead of being miserable and militant about thought crimes. Pleeeeaaaseeee Fortnite is free, the local animal shelter would love some volunteer work, there’s probably a shocking number of nature trails in your area, you could make bread😭

[ominous-horse-noises]

main takeaway from certain fan reactions to the finale is this:

the final scene with ankarna was so meaningful to the bad kids' arcs and how they made peace with being wronged by people they loved, and if all you can focus on is that the rat grinders didn't get much screentime, then you don't love dimension20 and you don't love this world: you want to be playing your own hs themed dnd campaign and you're mad the oc versions of the rat grinders you made up in your head acted ooc. these are not your characters and this is not their story.

[sajdd]

crazy how theres so much discourse about toriel, asgore and sans because of the new chapters - specifically ch4 ending

sans has been my favourite character in undertale since day 1 but hes just a funny little gag character in deltarune who came off a bit insensitive at the end of ch4. he probably has literally 0 clue about any of the issues or family drama going on. in his eyes he's probably just having a fun time with a new friend. like yeah he was quite insensitive to kris and susie but i honestly think its just not that deep. (at least not yet.) i think people are just expecting undertale-levels of introspection from him at this moment when he's basically not even plot-relevant right now

toriel is a caring mother who's going through the stresses of looking after a kid who has been distancing themselves from everyone for a long time, missing her other child who has been away for studies, and is being stalked by her ex husband who just will not leaver her alone. the way she acted at the end of the chapter was Not Good™ as it was very irresponsible of not checking up on her child but she's just a kind woman who is flawed and made a mistake just like everyone else can

asgore is a man who clearly knows something about dess' dissapearance and we can infer that somehow this led to the dreemur's marriage falling apart and he's desperately trying to prove his innocence or something - thinking that if he does that then it will all go back to normal. is that a situation that calls for some sympathy? probably, depending on what happened. but is stalking toriel the answer to fixing their marriage? fuck no he should absolutely be judged for that - but while his current actions are inexcusable we can assume that whatever happened has made him that desperate of a man and this can evoke some feelings of sympathy

most of us have seen undertale and know how complex all these characters are. yes they are different in deltarune but the context of undertale allows us to already have a loose grasp of what their personalities are like.

they are all complex characters who are well-meaning but can make brash or emotional decisions that do not have the intention of hurting someone but hurt a lot anyway. why is everybody suddenly jumping to extremes on all these characters. none of them are 100% evil or good in this scenario.

[tommyssupercoolblog]

Edit: adding the Dan and Phil tags because clearly there are Phannies curious about what's going on

I did not ALREADY see people on the Dan and Phil tag complaining and throwing shade that Dan and Phil are collabing with Tommyinnit....when will the horrors fucking end

Twitter users will really see a 16 year old abuse victim being bad at social cues and making jokes he immediately learns from and grows from and then when he's fucking 20, YEARS LATER, still be like "but when he was 16-17 he said he "gets" and understands lesbians because he likes women too. And he USED TO BE friends with abusers (one of whom he was literally also a victim of, the other whom he DIDN'T KNOW WAS DOING IT) and who he cut off and hates and shit talks actively." Okay girl....

And the only recent controversy is "he made French jokes at a French person who he didn't know was POC. And also that person made British jokes back and was laughing and chill about it. And also they're on good terms and talked it out immediately and it wasn't that big of a deal because they can, in fact, communicate like adults." alright.

Tell me you don't actually know anything about tommyinnit other than random Twitter threads from people who haven't watched him in five years but are talking about him anyway without telling me you don't know anything.

And CLEARLY Phan has no problem with them if Dan and Phil are collabing with them. Do you really think Dan and Phil are completely unaware of tommyinnit's history. He's beefing with dream as we fucking speak and you know WHY? Because dream said the fucking R slur and continues to bitch and whine that Tommy doesn't want to be his friend anymore and is calling him out as an abuser, while admitting he (digitally, ofc) stalked and let people send porn to Tommy in his discord as a minor. Because he's a creep.

YouTubers from all over the space are talking about this I'm sure it would occur to Dan and Phil to look into drama about him when tommyinnit is IN THE TRENCHES RIGHT NOW.

Anyway if you're going to be weird and shitty about it then that's your business but block me first. Shut up I'm talking patreon only 7 dollars.

[centipedetea]

its killing me that spamton is going thru that situation where people hate woobifying fanon so much that they lean too far in the opposite direction and create fanon 2 where he's cartoonishly evil for no reason

[ruegarding]

characters aren't real. they have no autonomy. sometimes. the problem w the character is that they are written badly.

[kafus]

rly hate this era of characters being judged on how morally righteous and pure they are and people bickering about it. it’s so boring. like are you not enraptured by morally gray characters with complex motivations and actions. why engage with emotional work if you’re unwilling to engage with people who do bad things sometimes. i s2g

[the-deca]

in light of recent discourse

[redr0sewrites]

dude one of my fav fandoms i dont talk ab v much is ihnmaims (both the game and the short story) but the fandom itself is so toxic that i just avoid it </3 like its very evenly split into two groups of people who r both equally different in their own ways but some people r just so mean bro like that fandom is So. full of these like anti selfshippers and/or people who will send u literal death threats over mischaracterization and i wish i could be more active in the fandom but alas. its so scary

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

not spop-related but i can't post this on my main blog so.

i do find it funny how most of the fan depictions of belos were far more interesting and detailed than s3 belos. i've seen fanart and fanfics of him where he's a complex villain struggling with religious guilt and then the canon is just like.. lmao yeah he's pure evil. kill him.

[swinging-stars-from-satellites]

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[blakescorneroftheunknown]

I love your art, it’s amazing. But as a woman liker who nearly dies via psychic damage whenever horde prime is on screen, I don’t know weather to laugh or cry when I get flashbanged by him smh

- sincerely, an appreciative yet horrified lesbian

I respect this, because a very large portion of she-ra's fandom is lesbian identifying individuals, which is great you guys are keeping the fandom alive ily,,

But, controversially, there are men who like other men here too!! (hi it's me). In the same way other artists make suggestive art of catra, adora, and all the other girlies of she-ra I'm over here doing the same but with everyone's most hated, Horde Prime.

No body's meant to like Prime, he's evil, he's nasty, but to a select few people with a specific taste in characters, he's like a cool rock you find at the beach and must bring home in your pocket.

I don't blame you for being partly horrified, lol. I make what I make for the same reason others in this fandom make similar things.

Everyone's got their favorites 🤷‍♂️

[patchqork]

I keep seeing rodorah hate on twitter 💔