#i'm not trying to start discourse or anything

[asneakyfox]

well, let's say someone responds to you so consistently in such an annoying way that you start hesitating to post anything at all, because every time you draft a post, you imagine the exact very annoying argument they're going to start over it, and you find yourself engaging less and less with the fandom - if you just go along with that impulse, i think, you're letting that person control your own role in the discourse (whether or not you think they're actually trying to; it doesn't really matter if it's intentional or not here), and that's not good. i think the whole community is worse if people end up pulling away for that kind of reason. so i think that in those situations it's much better to block.

(one example of this sort of thing, fwiw, is the situation that prevailed in ofmd fandom with the canyon in, say, much of 2023 before s2 dropped; there was a good while where if you posted anything about izzy that wasn't fully canyon-compliant several canyon accounts would reliably descend upon you and argue so aggressively that most people outside the canyon just avoided ever mentioning izzy at all. i thought that was a bad situation, and that's the reason i ever started posting meta - i didn't want them controlling the conversation, so i started blocking the canyon and i resolved that if i had something to say about izzy i would say it, and people immediately started dming me to say how relieved they felt to see someone say what they'd been thinking. and the fandom only became a place where it was possible to talk about izzy after we all started blocking them. i think it was a big improvement when we did that, because he's an interesting character who can be fun to talk about!)

as far as vaguing and accusations go, like, ok, yes i'm thinking of a couple of specific people here, and i'm sure it's possible to figure out who they are. (the people in question have been 100% certain i was vaguing them before when i absolutely wasn't at all, so i'll be surprised if they can't figure out when it actually is happening!) so in that sense i'm not going to claim that it's not a vague, and if people don't like vaguing they can be mad at me if they want. but also vaguing specific people is not really the point here. i don't want to say who i'm talking about here because then the focus would be on whom i'm accusing and whether the accusation is justified, but i actually mean this as advice. i think you should follow this advice whether or not the people you need to block are the same people i would block. if anyone reading this finds that the person who makes you reluctant to post is me, then i think you should block me, and no hard feelings!

fox guide to dealing with people who keep trying to control the fandom discourse & silence any opinion that disagrees with them:

say whatever you want

when they complain block/mute them

say it again

[sugarycandle]

so i read a new release by a really popular queer author. and it was fun, wasn't my favorite book by them but it was definitely better than the most popular one imho. there's a lot of sex which is totally fine and it was kinda fun, but some parts made me feel a bit iffy bc it felt very much like "yeah everybody likes to fuck" and like okay. but then they literally said that "the human condition" is loving and having sex, and i was like oh. and then i realized that despite all of the queerness which is diverse otherwise (not always handled well tho), none of their books ever even mention asexuality and aromanticism, and it just made me feel really weird. because obviously you're not required to write aspec characters but yeah idk, it made me kind of sad

[torchickentacos]

The pokemon anime subreddit fascinates and frustrates me on equally deep levels

[sofastuffing]

i have a headache

[idontwanttospoiltheparty]

I try to keep tumblr arguments in replies, because I'm having a conversation with someone, not purposely repeatedly putting them on blast – but it does mean that one time someone claimed to me that Please Please Me was a gender neutral love song (when it in fact rhymes "girl" with "girl" in its first two lines) – and probably only I saw it?

[thevegetablewhichnoonedaresname]

tonight I go to bed grateful not to be in my bnha phase right now

[dimiclaudeblaigan]

Okay I don't do this normally but out of curiosity, I looked at that guys' posts and yeah they're going around sealioning anyone who likes Dimitri being all like "how can you say Dimitri/AM is your favorite when you didn't play all the routes". Buddy it's called having preferences, subjectivity and opinion. I'm sure if we twist their behavior around back at them, they'll be like stop bothering us for liking Edel cause double standards is their bread and butter.

Yeah, I had taken a brief scroll through their blog the first time I saw them argue with Random about Claude because I had a pretty strong feeling that they were just another stan running around around against Rhea and Dimitri fans because I knew that person didn't follow Random when they started pulling the bad faith Claude takes.

I scrolled through a few posts before I was like yeah I'm not even gonna bother looking further because I could see all they were doing was arguing with people whose names I recognized, and the only people who ever do that are the stans. They also have absolutely nothing else but discourse on their blog.

It's crazy to me too, because I've seen those same Dimitri fans try to talk about anything else FE related and yet they still get pulled back into discourse. Like, I'm at the point where I believe everyone in that immediate group is just actively being stalked by the stans (and I recall one of them mentioning they are being stalked by them, but my guess is if one of them is, all of them are).

Also, the stans tend to pull the "you didn't play xyz route" when I'm quite certain most if not all of the Dimitri fans on Tumblr have at the very bare minimum watched the full route on YouTube of anything they didn't play. All these people have the information they need to know where they stand opinion-wise, and like you said, it's just... having an opinion. The stans have their opinions, we don't agree with them, and we don't engage with them unless they engage with us first.

Something I've noticed about the group of Dimitri fans that gets stans going after them is that it's always the stans who start it. They always respond to asks sent to those people. In other words they go onto those people's blogs, look at their posts/their replies to their anons, and start arguing at them over literally anything they say in thsoe ask responses.

Every single time I see a post reach my dashboard from any of those people (you might know the Faerghus/Dimitri group I'm talking about), it's always a stan going after them when they were just answering one of their own anons and posting something on their own blog. I'm sure there are people who think they engage in discourse too much, but they don't even start it. They get harassed and can't just blog in peace.

Unfortunately those same stans have been targeting Random as of late (and I've noticed it's more and more different ones so they're probably going after someone as soon as they notice their buddies are doing so) so it's not that surprising that they've taken notice of me since she and I interact regularly. They basically go through the chain of who interacts with who and try to start shit.

Oh nonnie honey, you better believe if even a single Dimitri fan did to them what they do to us, they'd be all over that and whining about it and posting callouts and shit.

I just want to be able to post whatever my feelings are about Dimitri without worrying that people will try to tear it down because "it's not about Edel-chan and it portrays Dimitri in a good light".

I've blocked every Edelstan I've come across but more of them keep popping up, so... I guess the blocking never ends. My block list is basically just Edelstans and bots at this point with few exceptions.

Funny how the stans don't block Dimitri fans who hate Edelgard to avoid seeing them (it's because they don't actually want to, because they want to argue), even though we're all over here trying to block them, but some of them block evade to keep going. Literally like Dimitri fans have tried to block them and move on, but they persistently find ways to keep harassing. And like I said, they go down the line, so eventually they'll just find every active Dimitri lover who posts about him and whine at them.

[smartzelda]

Okay, so now that I've taken a metaphorical drag of my cigarette and stared off into the diatance for a while, I'm gonna unpack this piece by piece

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"a new interesting queerbaiting offshoot is happening"

Hi, so (respectfully), what you've described here isn't a new phenomenon.

Let us for instance look upon House MD (2004), because I saw a couple people in the notes mention it.

House MD has background queer characters (as well as other minorities present) in its 8 seasons ("background" in this case referring to the cast that changes with the episodic nature of the A plotlines). Episode 4, "Maternity" aired in December 2004 and featured a lesbian couple who were soon to be parents.

Remy "Thirteen" Hadley was a main character who entered the show in episode 2 of season 4 in October 2007, and (though she would not remain a main character in every single season following) does make it past the series finale. While hints were given in the series prior (her actor gave an official statement as well), Thirteen was canonically confirmed to be bisexual in the show itself in Season 4 Episode 12, which aired in February 2008. Thirteen calls herself bisexual on multiple occassions during the show, dated Eric Foreman (one of the main male cast members) for a time, was allowed to be sexually interested/involved with both men and women, and closed out the show with a canonical girlfriend (thus making her a main character who is allowed to just be gay/queer).

And then, of course, we have Hilson (a pairing of two main characters that is a topic of queerbaiting discourse to this day). They're arguably the most popular gay pairing among fans, there are multiple jokes about them being gay for each other in the show itself, the actors did a "bromance" interview, one time they played something like gay chicken and had a false proposal scene, etc etc yadda yadda. There's a lot there to talk about. Point is, the pairing was popular, had good canon basis, seemed to be supported reading wise by Hugh Laurie (who played Gregory House), canon joked about them being a thing on multiple occassions, and ultimately the series closed out with the pairing being noncanon.

The topic of whether House MD is queerphobic or offensive in some ways with their handlings of their cast members/plots is an entirely separate topic of converation I don't plan to derail and discuss here. My point is that people who lived through it know just how homophobic the 2000s were, and the criteria of fitting the phenomenon denoted in the original post is having characters who were gay and allowed to be gay, as well as a popular pairing which was not explicitly canonized, which the show had. The show ended a full 3 years before gay marriage was fully legalized, and a year before it was legalized in New Jersey, where the show takes place.

This is a tv show that ran from 2004—2012 that fits the criteria of this "new queerbaiting offshoot", and I know there are multiple other similar examples (potentially even earlier ones).

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"queerbaiting offshoot"

Okay, let me start by saying that I understand you're not saying that this phenomenon you've described is 1 to 1 the definition of what queerbaiting is.

However, it's the usage of the term in this manner that reminds me of my long held belief at this point that "queerbaiting" needs to go up on the shelf, and is ultimately why I've been trying to avoid queerbaiting discourse as often as I can.

Context, here, matters, and "queerbaiting" is a very specific phenomenon that involves a piece of media where (I am simplifying the explanation a bit here. To get a more accurate explanation than what is commonly used I suggest talking to veterans of the queer community) the relationship between two characters of the same gender is heavily hinted at or implied, but where the producers/creators involved have no intention to ever make it explicitly canon (often even punishing the audience through the ongoing narrative or deriding them within the media itself for ever considering the characters might be gay for each other). This allows the media to draw queer viewership without alienating the general cishet viewerbase. The defining factor that separates "queerbaiting" from "queercoding" is intent. And, in this day and age, it's often hard to prove that everyone involved in the creation of a piece of media is intentionally queerbaiting the audience as opposed to queercoding under the radar or trying to get in whatever their corporate overlords have allowed.

This is why the the context matters though.

Does your piece of media have no explicitly confirmed queer characters (outside of maybe one offs or stereotypes for the audience to laugh at)? Are there several hints in the media itself tying one or more of the main characters to queer culture while building up these characters of the same gender to be the most important people to each other? What you might have here is a case of queercoding. It's entirely possible the writer or writers are trying to get in what they can, but ultimately were not able to get the pairing canonized.

Does your piece of media have one or more explicitly canonical (not completely stereotype filled) queer character, but not confirm a romantic relationship between one of those characters and another main character of their same gender? This is not queerbaiting. Again, context matters.

In some of these cases, the media doesn't show any main characters getting long time romantic partners because it's not relevant to the narrative they're spinning. In some of these cases, some of the queer characters explicity enter relationships and some don't. Depending on the context, it could be a case of not every character entering a romantic relationship before the series end (which is something that is and should be normal. Not every character even in all cishet media ends the media dating someone. We shouldn't be setting the standard that all queer characters need to be in a permanent romantic relationship, or that they need this to be queer). It could also be a case of the queer character(s) having explicit sexual or romantic relationships onscreen, but the creators not choosing to (or not being allowed to) canonize a permanent pairing between that character and another main character.

Does your piece of media (whether it has canonical queer characters or not) have tease moments between a couple characters of the same gender? Maybe there's a moment where two characters suddenly get really close during an event, a joke is added in about them being gay for each other (which either causes the characters to defend themselves or brush off the comment as nothing while embarassed). Does this happen on the occasion with one or more pairings, but ultimately these moments are never followed up on or referenced again in any fashion like a one off deal? Then you may potentially be a victim of "ship baiting". Even media with canonical queer relationships between main characters can do this, and they sometimes spawn off secondary popular pairings for the two characters. There's no intent to canonize the pairing, sure, but it's a tongue in cheek thing. Ship baiting can be done with pairings involving any combination of genders, and it can be as malicious as queerbaiting, or as benign as creators deliberately leaving potential for their fans to have fun with in fandom about.

I wouldn't call the phenomenon you've described here an "offshoot" of queerbaiting, especially since (depending on the context) the phenomenon can be 1 to 1 applied to popular examples of media people assumed were queerbaiting before the creators confirmed they were queercoding.

Legend of Korra (considered a milestone for queer media (in the USA at least)) ended the series finale with Korra and Asami leaving for the spirit world together. Within the show itself, they do not kiss and them starting a relationship is not explicitly confirmed (this being because at that time the creators did as much as they could by allowing them to end the show together without being paired off with anyone else). It was later in the official comics that the characters were confirmed to have gotten married.

I also got into SPOP right before the final season dropped, and was privy to all the built up discourse before everyone had seen the final season. Though they managed to add in or confirm background queer relationships here and there over the course of the show (and are queer themself), Nate Stevenson had been accused of queerbaiting ships between the main characters pretty much until the end, as people debated over whether there would be a canon main queer pairing and what pairing it would be. Ultimately, despite the years of discourse, Catradora was canonized in the series finale (incl. an onscreen kiss between them), and Stevenson went on to say that he (like other milestone shows which came before) had to fight to get the relationship canonized. He did this partially by intentionally cementing the characters' relationship into the core of the show and building it to the point where canonization was the only answer.

There are more (often more apt) terms than "queerbait" out there for your usage. It's hard to prove that someone is intentionally queerbaiting these days, but it is more common than you'd think for a writer or writers to heavily queercode the cast members or a particular relationship to deal with a particular line drawn by their corporate (or in some cases even showrunner) overlords.

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"it's just that the most popular fan pairing is NOT allowed to happen."

Hey, so if this was just an unintentional poor wording moment, no worries. You can assume I'm speaking in general as opposed to you specifically

But "most popular fan pairing" denotes something a bit different than, say, "most hinted at non-canon pairing". Other people have pointed this out on this post prior, but it is not actually a bad thing for creators to not canonize whatever the fandom thinks of as the best pairing.

We have to rid ourselves of this entitled "fans know best" attitude. It ultimately does not matter whether or not you personally believe you or someone else could have written a story/relationship better. Fandoms do not (and should not) get to determine a narrative's course. It is up to the writer(s) to decide the narrative they're to write and whether (or which exactly) relationships fit into the story they are telling.

We have a really big problem in the more queer sides of fandom right now where everything is getting accused of queerbaiting simply because the fans at large got invested in a character relationship, decided the pairing should be canon, and (no matter the circumstances surrounding the media'a creation, political environment, relevance, actual depth of canon potential) then the characters didn't kiss and it pissed them off.

Your investment in a fan pairing should not be entirely contingent on whether you are eventually "rewarded" for it by getting canonization and kisses. Fuck that. Fandom is not about solely indulging in things that "will be canon" and lashing out when things don't go your way. From the beginning till the end of time people will be getting obsessed with relationship dynamics between characters who won't canonically get together. It's unrealistic to expect that they should solely because a lot of people on the internet like the idea. Everything can't be queerbaiting. You have to get used to this.

And, as others have pointed out in the notes already, fandom is hardly trustworthy for deciding what should be canon. Sometimes the fans at large get it right, and the main queer fan pairing has a shit ton of basis in canon, fits the narrative, and on some occassions even becomes canon. However, sometimes the most popular canon pairing is like two guys who held hands once or had a kind of neat character dynamic. These are cases where fans attached onto the first hint of a main character pairing very very hard, and then (rather than update their thoughts and readings of the media as more characters and other even deeper relationships were developed) doubled down in asserting that their beloved main pairing is the only thing which can and should be canon. The fans do not always know what's best for the characters or narrative, and I would hate to live in a world where creators were forced to canonize anything their fans decided would make the story better (or their fans personally like).

Creators do not have to make a main fan pairing canon because it's popular. The lack of a canon confirmation for a pairing you like does not automatically mean the characters don't have feelings for each other in the canon or can never get together. You don't need your pairings to be canon to "prove" you were right about a media all along. It is a fact of life that a piece of media will have multiple readings that can be drawn from it, and it is normal to theorize and speculate on things that may never be explicitly confirmed. Embrace that.

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"why? well maybe the writers just want u specifically dead"

I get that this is an intentional exaggeration (likely intended to match whatever pairing you're having thoughts and feelings about right now), but genuinely the only answer to "why" the phenomenon you've described occurs isn't that you're being queerbaited by people who hate you.

Like. There's not a 0% chance, I will admit, but it's still not the only explanation. I implore you to consider what else may be going on behind the scenes if the pairing in question genuinely has great basis in the canon (as per the earlier discussion on queerbaiting).

With that being said, this is the best answer I can provide in regards to the phenomenon you've described.

Everything is not as progressive as you seem to believe it is

As sad as it is, just because we can have background relationships or canon queer characters or a piece of media that revolves around a gay relationship does not mean the fight is over and that gay relationships are always acceptable in media now. We still to this day have creators fighting tooth and nail against executives to get canon/explicit/casual queerness in their public, more mainstream media. And just because someone managed to get this to happen does not mean all threats of corporate meddling are gone (and this is me talking about the USA. I haven't even touched on other countries' media.)

The sad truth is that we still live in a reality where media that is not up front about being a queer story from the getgo (such as a movie that is advertised to be about a gay romance at its core) is risky to confirm main queer relationships partway through. Corporations don't want to lose their mainstream cishet audience, and (to them) a "surprise" main gay pairing is something that will run too high a risk of losing them viewers and money. This is why so many main gay pairings are confirmed in the last second. And, on top of that, even media with casual queerness and canon queer relationships have had to deal with censorship around the world, because a company would rather erase or obscure queerness than potentially lose money. We even still deal with tv shows that are up front about their queerness, and that make companies loads of money and get them tons of views getting canceled for...no real discernible reason sometimes.

Yes. Yes it is absolutely possible for a piece of media with background queer rep or a canon gay/trans character to face roadblocks in making those relationships canon between main characters. Sometimes this is because the creators' hands were tied and they added in what they could. Sometimes the creators did this on purpose because they didn't feel canonization of that particular pairing would be right for their characters/narrative (either at this exact moment or in general). Sometimes a show runner has no intention of canonizing anything, but their writing team enjoys adding queercoding and making canon what they can.

It's not always queerbait.

a new interesting queerbaiting offshoot is happening where characters are allowed to be gay it's just that the most popular fan pairing is NOT allowed to happen. why ? well maybe the writers just want u specifically dead

[timeandspacelord]

hey, hi, quick question, just wondering, are you shipping kaz and nikolai, from the tv show, or the book series, just given the age difference in the books, and the way you've been tagging things, is kinda confusing, just thought i'd ask, just in case

I'm going to answer this assuming it's in good faith even though the wording definitely puts me on edge. To me, I don't think it matters that much whether it's the books or the show. It's both, it's whatever makes you more comfortable, especially since a lot of what I've written is AUs.

The age difference in the books is like five years (Wiki says Kaz is 18 in KoS, but that's an estimate and my math - which puts KoS about two years after CK - says he should be 19, maybe even 20). We do not know these characters' birthdays and, more importantly, they are fictional, and I don't have to justify myself to anyone because they are fictional.

I do not want to get embroiled in the pro-shippers vs antis debate because I think it leaves out a lot of nuances and, frankly, I don't have the time or energy to waste on something so ultimately unimportant. I have a job. Writing is my hobby. Pass moral judgement on me if you like, or simply stop engaging if you think it's such a big deal, I do not care ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[trans-soapberry]

I think the Kirby series deserves another anime, but I struggle to identify what exactly I'd want from a new adaptation. The original is what it is, y'know, I don't feel too strongly like it committed any egregious sins against the franchise. Dedede's characterization... I get the need for a Typical Villain and I don't think there were many good characters (then or now) to get for the mix of Comical and Reliable you need for a serialized show (the way Bowser, Eggman, or Team Rocket worked for their series). It's definitely sad to see him have such a wildly different character that weighs him down the way it does, but I can't think of an Easy Fix. And that doesn't even touch on the way Game Dream/Pupupuland and Anime Dream/Pupupuland differ in their setting, or the way any dub would have to find a way to Exist when people are gonna compare it to the 4Kids dub. Love it or hate it, it was Something, and any dub would have to choose if it wanted to take inspiration or go its own way (both with their own risks). And then you contend with the existence of the anime original characters.

Honestly, I'd probably say my ideal pick would be a Remake (I guess in the vein of Adventure/Nightmare in Dreamland or Return To Dreamland/Deluxe type of update?) Keep the basic characters and story roughly the same, probably tweak the setting so it's a bit more game like, and focus on something that feels similar but takes account of the general series progression and works with that (even if not everything in the game gets adapted, at least picking and choosing from what the games offer)

[unholiestverse]

gonna be real with you guys, the new design concept for mcr is not doing it for me. which kinda does put a dampener on my excitement 🤷

[the-hadal-zone-sys]

Sorry but I can't just say nothing after this was reblogged onto our dash. Please understand I don't want to start anything, and I mean this as respectfully as possible, but...

Have you ever thought about what it might be like to actually BE the person who goes into "blind panic" at the sight of insects?

Phobias can be very extreme and genuinely debilitating, and especially things like the phobia of insects are constantly minimized. People try to rationalize our phobia, tell us constantly that they're not actually dangerous, that they're important to the environment, entirely missing the fact that WE KNOW.

WE KNOW.

Believe me, every insectaphobe and arachnophobe ever has heard it.

But working through an extreme phobia can take years of effort and therapy, and trying to do so without professional help can be genuinely dangerous.

We can't help our phobias, they are by definition irrational. Please try to remember that when making a post like this, and don't minimize our fears and struggles.

(Sorry if I come off as rude, I promise that isn't intentional. I agree that educating people about the environmental importance of insects is important, I just feel that this post echoes the way we've seen our phobia talked about by people who fundamentally just don't understand what it's like.)

Speaking up and educating people on why the most hated life forms on the planet are important and meaningful is a thankless task.

How do we reach out and get people to care about insects and spiders when the average reaction is either "EEWW KILL IT WITH FIRE" or blind panic?

Arthropods are crucial to the survival of life as we know it. Yes, even commonly vilified bugs like wasps and mosquitoes have ecological niches that the world CANNOT do without.

I cannot overstate their importance.

[steviesnailbat]

I love arguing with strangers on the internet 🙃

[prael]

WYR-0573: Dirty Little Student Wang Yiren And Her Sexy Secret Camgirl Life Tempts Horny Teacher Into Rough Fuck and Creampie!

Everglow Yiren x male reader smut

Thankyou @co-reborn for allowing me to spiritually succeed this fic (Everyone read it if you haven't already.)

Masterlist word count: 4,221 Kofi(donations/commissions)

It seems like everything these days is a fucking ethics issue. It's not like you're trying to do anything that's going to hurt somebody. You're not ripping off old people, you're not laundering money, you're not putting lives at risk.

Shit, it's just a bit of fun, but if anyone finds out you've had your cock inside Wang Yiren, then the ethics committee is going to eat you alive. It doesn't matter if she wants your cock in there just as badly as you do.

You have to get creative to make it work. First thing is first: get her out of your office. Sure, it's not unusual for a student to take some office time with her thesis advisor, but walking out in the state she does? Her cheeks flushed, and her blouse dishevelled, with a slight, satisfied smile on her face and her panties stuffed into the front pocket of her backpack.

People are going to notice, and that can't happen.

There's a part of you that wishes you could make it stop outright, but you can't. Every time she uploads another one of those videos, your eyes are locked to your computer screen and your cock's locked in your hand.

Maybe it's the novelty of knowing that the girl on the camera's not just any other girl on the internet; it's perhaps the fact that she's the girl that you've had inside your office. Maybe it's that her body's incredible; her tits are small and pert, her ass tight, and that little slit of a pussy is just begging to be fucked.

Or maybe, it's how openly she will sit across from you at your desk and ask you so casually what you thought of her latest video with the same sort of inflection that a student would use to ask you about the latest reading. "I wasn't really sure if the whole clamping my nipples thing worked. I mean, it was kinda hot, I guess. And I got off pretty hard, so there's that. What'd you think?"

What do you think?

You're a good guy—a good professor—so you give her honest feedback, "I thought it was hot, Yiren, but it took a while for you to get into it. Was that your first time? Playing with your nipples that way?"

"Mhm." You can see the little smirk curl up on her face, "I was hoping it wasn't obvious that I was nervous. It's tough getting started with some new kinks, you know?"

It's a strange little world the two of you inhabit. On the surface, it's the relationship of a graduate student to her thesis advisor: a mutually respectful relationship based on academic mentorship and intellectual discourse. Under the surface, it's the sort of thing that gets both of you expelled: the sort of relationship that's built on her need for you to see her get off in front of her webcam and your need for her to keep uploading videos.

But as you look at her now, you think about what she's doing. She's a twenty-something grad student who gets her rocks off by playing with herself on camera for thousands of strangers on the internet. It makes her hot. It makes her cum. And you're only too happy to be there for her. It makes you hot, it makes you cum, and there's a bit of you that feels a sense of pride knowing that even though the whole world gets to see what her face looks like when she climaxes, only you have managed to fuck her to one.

"Don't get me wrong, Yiren. It was hot. I'm sure everyone got off to it."

There's a slight cockiness to her smirk—she already knew it to be true. "And you?"

"Do you really need to ask every time?" you reply.

"Mm. Yes," she leans back on the chair in front of your desk and raises one leg over the armrest. "I like to know that you liked what I put out."

You don't miss a beat, and the words come out as casually as if you were critiquing an assignment: "I jerked myself raw, Yiren."

"I'm glad," her fingers are tracing little lines down the inside of her thighs. You lean in closer, elbows against the desk. "What part did it for you?"

"Yiren, I know what you're doing."

She starts to pull up the hem of her skirt while flashing you faux innocence with her blinking eyes. "What's that, Sir?"

"Seriously. We can't. Not here."

"I'm just showing you, Sir," her skirt is around her waist now. She's not even trying to hide her desire. Her pussy's wet. Glistening. "Looking for a little feedback. Was it my pussy? My fingers? How wet I was?"

You want to grab her, throw her onto the desk, and fuck her until the entire floor hears her scream. You want to feel your cock sink inside of her pussy, feel your skin slap against hers, feel the wetness of her desire as you thrust into her. But that would be the end of everything. "You're killing me here, Yiren."

"You know, people keep asking for more stuff with a guy. I could put it on pay-per-view, make a killing." She runs her fingers along her slit and you hear that soft little moan that's driven so many guys to bust on their keyboards. "What'd you think about that, Sir?"

You're starting to breathe hard. It doesn't matter that you've fucked this girl before. All you know is that you can't have her now. And she knows that drives you nuts.

Her finger's on her clit now and she's rubbing in circles. Her head tilts back slightly, her mouth parts, and you know she's going to cum right here if you let her go on. "Yiren," your voice is almost hoarse.

Her finger is a blur, and her voice is a half-moan, "Mm, Sir?"

"You're going to get us in trouble."

"I think I'm worth the trouble." Her chest's heaving. She's going to go off any second. "Sir," her eyes look straight at yours and there's something about that direct stare that sends a shiver through you, "Are you hard?"

You nod. There's not much else to do.

She takes her hands away from herself, leaving her pussy on the edge. You know that it's aching, throbbing. She bites her lip and stares at the growing bulge in your pants. "Maybe you can show me how you jerked yourself off the other day."

"Yiren. Fuck. Not here."

"Then where?" She snaps, clasping her legs closed and pushing her skirt back over them, "You won't do anything in your office. You won't take me home. Where, then, huh? Maybe I should just go to the headmaster and tell her what you—"

She doesn't finish that sentence. Your hand is gripping her arm tightly as you yank her up off her seat, "Come with me."

You lead her down the hallway. She's struggling, but she's grinning too. She knows she's getting her way.

Your eyes dart from left to right. It's late and the chances of running into anyone is pretty low, but still, there's always the chance.

"Sir, what's the deal?" she's laughing now. "What's your plan?"

"I don't have one."

It doesn't matter. You've been in the same spot before with her. She's been begging for it, you can't do it in your office, and you need someplace quiet, someplace private, someplace where the two of you can be alone for a while.

You lead her to the parking lot and she realizes your plan. Her voice is almost mocking. "Sir, that's not exactly original, you know. A parking lot? Your car?"

"It'll do, Yiren." Your voice is firm, almost angry, and she's eating it up—you know what gets her going. "And maybe it's a bit clichéd, but we won't have any of these pesky problems of you being too loud and giving us away." You stop her at the passenger door to your sedan, lean her against the car and press yourself against her. "And trust me, you will be too loud, Yiren."

She grins up at you. She likes the sound of that. "What're we doing here, Sir? I thought you didn't want to fuck me anymore. Not after last time."

"I never said that." Your fingers run down her side and you feel the familiar thrill of touching her again, feeling her body under your fingers. "I said no more fucking in my office, Yiren," you slide your hand over her ass. "So we're here." You lean down and kiss her, and she moans as her body leans into you.

She pulls away from the kiss, panting, "But, Sir, you know what else I want." You feel her fingers reach down and run across the bulge in your pants, and her breath catches. "Mm. I want this. I want to film you, Sir. I want to film this."

It's a bad idea, you know. The riskiest of ideas. You can see her in your mind's eye: the way her face looks when she's cumming, when she's biting her lip to hold in the scream, the way her body shudders, and her eyes shut tight, the way that she gasps for air afterwards. You want her to be able to share that with the world, to get her off by getting the world off. "Fine."

"Seriously?" She looks at you in disbelief, but you've already opened the door and nudged her inside. She climbs in and crawls to the other end, tossing her purse in the front seat after she pulls out her phone. "It's not ideal but it'll have to work." You're on her in an instant, pulling her skirt up around her waist, pushing her down against the seats, kissing her, and sliding your fingers into her.

She squeals, then gasps, and then giggles as you thrust your fingers in and out of her pussy. "Mm, Sir," her moans are punctuated by each thrust of your fingers, "Fuck. Wait. I haven't even got my phone set up yet. Fuck. Wait."

You slow, just a little, just enough, then you concede and pull out. You know she wants it, needs it. You watch her hands shake as she rushes to set the phone up, she's got it in selfie mode and it's the best she can do.

"The lighting's all wrong, but who cares, right? They're here to watch you fuck me. They don't care about lighting." She's talking to herself as much as to you, but you know how she is. You know that she wants you to play along.

"Let's show them how pretty you are, Yiren." You pull out your fingers, then press your palms against her legs, pushing them apart and sliding in closer between them. You watch as she tries to hold the camera steady. Her breaths are shallow. "Show them what your pussy looks like." She turns the camera down and focuses it on her pussy. She spreads herself for the camera, showing her audience her soft pink pussy. She's so wet, you can't wait to feel her on your cock, feel that heat, that wetness, and that tightness.

"God," you groan. You've watched her videos so many times, but seeing it up close and in the flesh is always different. You run your fingers down the inside of her thigh until they brush her pussy lips, and you spread her wide. Her hips buck slightly and you watch the juices of her desire drip down the crack of her ass. You push your fingers into her, and you feel the warmth of her insides. She cries out, "Mmf! Oh god."

You take it slow. She's filming it all. You want this video to be hot. You pull out your fingers, then push them in, watching the wetness cling to them as you thrust them in and out of her pussy. "Fuck, Sir. Oh god." You curl your fingers up and press your fingertip against the spot you've learned to find. You feel the rough skin against your finger and you press into it. Her head tilts back, her eyes shut tight, and you watch as her body shudders. You push your finger harder against it, rub it, and her moans get louder.

You pull your fingers out, then push them in, slowly, rhythmically. She whines, but you don't give in. "Tell the audience how it feels, Yiren." You're teasing her now. She doesn't want you to go slow. You know she's aching for more.

"Feels so fucking good." She pants, holding the camera steady. "God, Sir. Don't stop."

"Why?"

"Mm." She whines, and you can hear that she's on the edge, "Feels so good, Sir. Your fingers feel so good in my pussy." You pull your fingers out of her, then press the palm of your hands against her thighs and spread her wider.

You take your time. Your fingers brush down the length of her pussy, from her clit down to the juices on her asshole, and you press against that tight little pucker. She gasps and you hear her moan. You press your fingers against her hole, feeling it tense and tighten against your fingers.

She lets out a sharp, shocked whine as you tease her asshole and you can't take it any longer. She knows just what you want. You lean down and press your lips against her clit, and you hear her squeal as you lick her clit. You suck her clit, tasting the juices that flow from her, and you feel her body tense up. She's so close. You pull yourself away from her and grin up at her.

She's panting hard, staring up at you. "God. I need you to fuck me." Her voice is a whine, a needy whine. You can hear her desperation.

"I know you do, Yiren," you reply, unbuckling your pants. You pull your cock free and stroke yourself a few times as she stares down at you. "I know how much you want this."

She nods, her mouth open and panting. "So much. God, please fuck me with that." You press your cockhead against her pussy, rubbing it between her lips. "Fuck, Sir, please. I love a big hard cock in my tight pussy."

You grin and whisper, "Tell them what you need, Yiren."

She looks right into the camera, "Please fuck me, Sir. I need you to fuck my pussy. I need to feel you stretch me wide. Fuck, Sir. Fuck me." She's begging and her breath is a desperate pant. "Please, I'm so wet. I want to cum with your cock inside of me. I need to."

You press yourself against her entrance, just enough to push her open, then you pull away and watch her cunt quiver at your touch. You can tell she wants to be taken, needs to be fucked hard and fast, and she knows you can give it to her.

You push your hips forward and thrust your cock into her, and you watch her pussy open and spread for you. "Fuck," she cries, her hands trembling, but you don't slow down. You thrust hard, pulling her hips into you, and you slam your cock deep into her.

"God, your pussy feels so good." Your fingers grip tight on her thighs, spreading her wide as you pound into her, and her cries fill the car.

She tries to keep the phone steady, filming you thrust into her. She can barely keep herself together. You can see the camera shaking, "In his fucking car. You hear that? He couldn't even wait to get me home. He needed to fuck me. He spends all day watching me in class, thinking all these dirty little thoughts about me, and then he just can't take it anymore and he fucks me right in the parking lot. And you know what? I'm gonna fucking cum because of him."

You're going hard and fast and she's so fucking tight. You can hear her moaning and groaning with every thrust, and her pussy is clenching around you. You can tell she's on the edge, her pussy is trembling around you, and she's screaming for more. You know that the video is probably a mess, a shaky, poorly framed mess of her tits shaking, her face pulling the dirtiest of expressions and her pussy getting fucked.

Her words are getting more erratic. She can barely keep it together, so you snatch it from her hand, record the way you thrust into her, how your balls slap against her cunt. She moans louder when you do and you realize she likes that you're the one recording her.

The camera pans up to her face. You want to see her cum. You want to film it. "Cum, Yiren." Your voice is loud and commanding. "Cum on my cock. Let them see you cum on your teacher's cock."

Her hands are above her head, grasping at the leather seats. Her back arches beneath you and her head is thrown back, pressing into the very same upholstery that her fingers do. Her hips shudder and you feel her insides squeeze around your shaft as she cries out, "Fuck!" The sound of your flesh slapping into her flesh fills the car, and she's a writhing, whimpering, cumming mess as you pound her through her orgasm.

You keep filming as you reach down, and with one hand, rip open the buttons of her shirt. Three of them come flying off, pinging around the car and leaving a lopsided mess of fabric and bra that exposes the flesh of one of her pert tits. It doesn't take long before your hand is gripping her breast, pinching at her nipple, tugging at her flesh as you keep pounding into her.

Yiren gets the message, pulling the rest open on her own and pulling down her bra, exposing both tits. Her fingers are on her own nipple, tugging at it and pinching. You watch the way she teases herself, the way her body reacts, and the way she's still shivering from her orgasm. She's a mess and you love seeing her that way.

If there's something painfully obvious from her videos, it's that one is never enough. So Yiren doesn't even need to ask, you're already guiding her onto her knees and then pushing her forward so her face is against the glass. "Show them your ass, Yiren."

You hold the camera in your hand and record the image of her reaching back and pulling her skirt over her hips, exposing her bare ass and pussy to you. You record as she reaches back and spreads her cheeks for the camera, letting her fingers pull apart her wet pussy and letting your audience see that tight, puckered asshole.

"Sir," you watch her face pressed against the window. Her breath leaves an opaque cloud against the cold glass, "How does my ass look?" You can't help it, your free hand comes crashing down against her skin and you watch it ripple under your palm. "Oh!"

You grin at her reaction, "You look like a naughty little girl who needs a good spanking."

"Oh, Sir," she moans, "What did I do?"

You slap her ass again, and again, watching it redden under your hand. "Such a naughty little girl. Making a mess in my office." You're slapping her again, watching her ass jiggle and turn pink.

Yiren whimpers, "I did. I was so naughty."

"What did you do, Yiren?"

"I was so fucking wet. I couldn't stop touching myself."

"Why were you wet?" You spank her again and you watch as her hips press back into you, "Tell your viewers what made you so wet that you needed to touch yourself."

"I needed you." Yiren's panting hard, her voice a needy moan, "God, I need you to fuck me. I was thinking about your cock. How good it felt when you fucked my pussy. I wanted you to fuck my pussy again."

You push her forward, letting her hands come down against the foggy glass. Her ass is up in the air and you're pressing your cock against her pussy. She's still wet from her cum and it takes no effort at all to thrust deep into her.

You're so deep in her wet folds. Her soft embrace is warm, tight, and you feel yourself slide deep inside of her, and you watch as her face twists and contorts in pleasure, in desire.

"Show them what they're doing to you, Yiren. Show them how they make you feel." You pull the phone up to her face, filming her moans, her cries, the faces she makes as you fuck her. "You like it when they watch, don't you? You like it when I fuck you like this and they have to watch."

She's panting, moaning, and nodding. Her hips press back into you as you pound into her and you watch her ass ripple and bounce with each thrust.

You reach around and grab her tie. She always wears it loose, but it's still enough to pull it up tight against her throat, pull her back into you. You wrap it twice around your hand and it yanks her up straight, her body against your chest. She's panting hard as her hands come up and try to claw at the tie around her throat.

She can't stop moaning, crying, and she can barely breathe, and you watch as she struggles to hold on, her head tilting back and resting on your shoulder. You film her as she struggles to hold it together. She can barely keep her eyes open and her voice comes out as a desperate, choked moan.

You let go of the tie, and it unravels in your hand. You watch her slump forward and her hands come down to the seat. Her face presses into the leather and she's whimpering. "You're such a good girl, Yiren." You press yourself deep inside her and grind your hips against hers, "Such a good girl for taking my cock."

She groans, "Thank you." She's still pushing back against you and her eyes are shut tight. "Thank you, Sir."

"Good girls get a treat, don't they?" You grin and you run your fingers against her asshole. "I bet you like a nice treat for being such a good girl."

Her breath hitches, and her eyes flutter, "Please, Sir."

You press your finger against her hole, and she pushes her ass back, and you feel her ass relax and open for your finger. Her tight asshole squeezes your finger tight and you hear her moan, and her pussy clenches your cock. "Fuck."

"Oh god, Sir," she moans. She's a needy, whining little mess, "Please cum in me."

Her words are like music to your ears. Her body is trembling under you, and she's moaning for you to cum. Her words are so desperate. She's begging, and you can't resist. Your hand is gripping her ass, with a finger slipped inside, and you pound into her, feeling her tight, wet cunt squeeze around you.

"Fuck, Sir, please," she begs. "Breed your favourite little student. Fill her up with your cum." She's crying out, her voice echoing inside the car.

Your hips shudder as you thrust deep into her and feel your balls clench, you can't take any more, and your cock is pulsing, throbbing, and your cum is filling her, flooding her insides, and her ass is trembling around your finger. Your chest is heaving, and your heart is pounding, and you can barely breathe. She's still pushing her ass back against your hand and her body is shivering with every pulse of cum that your cock pumps into her. You keep thrusting, feeling her pussy tighten and milk your cock.

When it's all over, you watch as she slowly pulls away from you, and you see the thick white seed drip from her hole and onto her thighs. She sits back on her knees and looks right into the camera. Her chest is flushed and heaving. Her hair's a mess, and her shirt's hanging open. Her makeup's running and there are tears on her cheek. But there's a satisfied look on her face.

She's grinning from ear to ear and you can't help but grin along with her. "That," she pants, still trying to catch her breath, "is how I get a good grade in class." Her words are followed with a giggle and then she leans forward and shuts off the camera. Her hand finds the back of your neck and she pulls you into a kiss. Her lips are hungry and her tongue presses into your mouth. Your hand wraps around her head, and your fingers get tangled in her hair as you pull her closer and deeper into you.

She pulls away, a smile on her face, and a twinkle in her eye, "You're a natural, you know. You really know what they want. Makes sense, you are one of them."

"Thanks." You laugh. You can't help but notice that her hand's between her legs, rubbing and stroking. She's unsatiable.

"Sir? Since I'm such a good student, does it mean you'll take me home and fuck me in your bed?"

[vulturesawake]

I'm not necessarily arguing that trans men don't have misogyny issues or that trans women have an "easier time" (??? What was that person on about). I do want to gently suggest that maybe "privilege" isn't the correct word to describe this experience.

As long as we are percieved as cis men, sure, we get some benefits from the structure of the patriarchy. Trans women who have not began to transition also experience these things. However, if someone has to actively hide their identity in order to be safe/access resources, I don't believe that should be considered privilege because it is erasure. This might just be informed by my experiences as a trans person in a deep south conservative city, though.

this website is cuckoo bananas. for years i’ve been watching trans girls post “hey, have you considered that even though trans guys are obviously treated worse than cis guys, the limited male privilege that they do have access to means that they are taken more seriously, treated less dangerously & just respected more than trans women in most if not all circumstances” and everybody’s been going nuts like, calling us separatists, calling us “divisive” for even pointing out men in the trans community can be misogynistic etc.

and then today, i saw a pretty mild post from a trans guy saying “passing as a man is so weird. other men are treating me with more respect than they treat my girl friends in public now. i used to have to argue & cite 100 sources for anybody to listen to me, and now all i have a beard all i have do is say ‘hey maybe women should be treated better’ and everybody listens to me immediately”

….and then i go into the notes and there’s a bunch of transandrophobia bloggers saying “wow, you really opened my eyes… i never saw it this way before…” like am i going crazy??? am i the only one who sees the incredible irony here? maybe you guys… here’s a thought… should listen to women also?

[dalesramblingsblog]

IDK man, as someone who actually has quite enjoyed the Davies/Gatwa years to date, there's just something so fucking exhausting about the way people talk about it, and it's really flared up this season. The sheer level of contemptuous glee with which some people seem to welcome the possibility of cancellation is just really, truly getting me down. I'm not even talking about the people who are being tiresomely racist, because they're just an extension of the same people who have been being tiresomely sexist for nearly seven years now.

But just, like... I dunno, man, there's a level of vicious meanness to fandom's present discourse that's really been bad for my mental health all around, and has honestly played a big part in my slowing down my writing, because any time I want to write something earnest and heartfelt about how a given piece of media affected me I end up second-guessing myself because I feel like nobody wants to read anything like that. Instead they'd much rather just pounce on the latest rumour drummed up by vile publications like the Sun, where like... even if the cancellation goes through, do you really want to be on the side of the Sun?

I think the hatred of Wish World broke something in me, because I really liked it, I thought it was a surprisingly barbed little number that picked at nostalgia and conservatism. Plus, like a lot of RTD2 its earnest engagement with what it means to be queer genuinely means a lot to me as someone who started realising they were queer right as The Star Beast hit (and eventually ended up realising they were trans) and who has been grappling with a lot of fear and uncertainty as a result.

So, y'know, going online and just seeing everyone be all "Oh it sucks," "It's garbage," "RTD L," "Wow they really betrayed the character integrity of the Rani" (what the fuck are you even talking about with that one, what character integrity did the Rani ever have, for Christ's sake?). My point is never that one should just be a blind, mindless consumer. Far from it. If anything, I would rather people actually pause to think "Hmm maybe this piece of media is trying to say something." And I mean I get if it doesn't resonate with you. I get if you think it's crashingly unsubtle, or if there are aspects of its commentary that you find lacking. I've had some criticisms of the Gatwa Era as well, and I can acknowledge them.

But on the whole, I've had a great time, and I dunno, it just... makes me feel like shit to see so many people so violently disagreeing and dismissing any possibility that any of these stories could have any kind of resonance with people.