#jared effect

[teamfreewill2pointo]

I know you did this analysis a few months ago, but now with the cons in progress and the ones that wouldn't have Jared having already happened, do you notice a difference in the amount of audience in the ones where he was and the ones he wasn't? At first it seemed so to me. But we had two cons where I heard comments from the actors about how crowded it was. And one had Jared and the other didn't.

So the problem is that I have ADHD which means I get bored with topics, but also I realized that I needed to control for more variables and get a lot more data.

For example, I predicted that Columbus would do better than SF regardless of if Jared showed up. Why? At the cons, they'll ask how many new timers and at least half if not more of the audience raises their hands.

If it's a new city in a place with a lot of Supernatural fans, then you'll get a high turn out and Ohio is definitely a place with a lot of Supernatural fans.

A lot of these first timers find out about the conventions through local media and, if it's the first one for their city, they aren't going to care as much which specific guests will attend as long as at least one lead is there.

Conversely, if a new city has a low turn out, it may not be because of Jared absent, but because of a low marketing reach or interest in Supernatural. Therefore, I don't think you can use new cities to accurately judge the Jared effect.

At SFcon, which is a well established con, the audience dropped by probably a half, definitely 1/3, but then a lot of us knew we could do other cons with Jared. That's a con where I think you can measure how much the con suffered by not having Jared attend. So we should only be looking at cons where Jared is added in or didn't attend this year.

But if you look at, say Seattle, Jared was added rather late, so that doesn't show how many would've showed up had he been added earlier. If I had known earlier, I would've switched SF for Seattle, but by the time Seattle was announced, I didn't have the ability. In the summer, a lot of people have vacation plans, so you'll want something that's announced ahead of time by at least 3 months.

Also, at SFcon, JDM dropped as well, so you can't say that Jared alone was the reason it dropped so dramatically from last year. If JDM had been there, I suspect it would be closer to Burbank.

So you'll need cons where Jared attended last year, but didn't this year: SFcon

Or cons where Jared was added with a decent amount of time: Charlotte, DC, Orlando

[Please let me know if I'm missing any!]

The problem with cons where Jared was added in was that I'll need data from other cons/other years at that con that show how many more seats were bought in comparable time spans. I would have to grab screenshots from a lot of other cons and calculate how many seats are sold first month, second month, etc, and then compare that to the Jared added on cons in order to ascertain if there's a difference between a natural increase versus people joining just because of Jared.

I'm not spending my time doing that. If someone wants to grab that data for me, I'd be happy to run the numbers, but that's a lot of work and my ADHD brain has already moved onto other more interesting data sets.

More than all that, having attended both Burbank and SFcon, there were a lot of Jared fans at both! At SFcon, there were a lot of people running around with these large red pins that said Team Moose. There were people wearing Jared/Sam shirts and he got votes close to Dean and Castiel despite fewer fans there relative to the other two.

I think it's safe to say that SFcon isn't returning because Jared wasn't there, but a sample size of 1 is not a good sample size. That may reflect the people of Bay Area more than the Supernatural con fandom as a whole.

[I'm also struck by now many men and families with small children attend the SFcon as compared to the other cons]

One interesting thing is that this shows that many of our filmers are more likely to be Jared leaning fans. It also proves to me that Jensen/Misha fans are not more likely to attend Friday/Sat. There used to be this claim by Jared antis that Jared fans were terrible to the other cast members and only showed up on Sunday.

At both Burbank/SF, the turn out for question asking and Fri/Sat panels was embarrassingly low and there were times when no one went up to ask a question.

Sunday was absolutely packed at SFcon compared to the other two days. Lots of empty seats earlier. I also noticed that there was a greater percentage of new people on Friday and Sat compared to Sunday. It was about 1/2 new on Sat and 1/3 new on Sunday.

I think that it's more a reflection of the GA than fans of particular actors.

For example, I noticed at SFcon a lot of people saying, "Who's that????" in regards to some con staples like Adam Rose and Jason Manns. I was with people who had to be reminded who Kim and Bri were. They also didn't remember the golem episode, but when I pulled up photos of Adam Rose and they saw him in a construction vest, they recognized him. So I think the low turn out is less people actively disliking other guests, but people who genuinely don't know them.

[daddysboydean]

my crackpot theory about why other dudes love jared so much is that jared’s traditionally masculine physique disarms them because he looks like a mans man, and then he gets ‘em with his puppy boy golden retriever touchy feely nature. and they love it bc so many dudes can’t be emotional with other dudes. (really they can’t be emotional with women either, it just manifests as sex because they’re repressed, but whatever. also i am most definitely generalizing here) so when this 6’5 tank is openly affectionate with them it gives them the ok to be openly affectionate back. am i making any sense. it’s part of why jensen “there’s no manly way to drink out of a straw” is so obsessed with him. 

[fratercrucis]

you are my moosey dear, brave and tall, loreboy smarty pants, you're my hero guy. you're my shaggy hair, puppy eyed, hunter with a heart, you're the apple of my eye ⸜(｡˃ ᵕ ˂ )⸝♡

[akf1x]

i think this song suits sam <3

[dbarenzu626]

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...Anyone know binary?

Anyways, "TRON Ares" fanart! It's no secret that I'm a fan of the TRON franchise, Disney's underdog marriage of video game and digital aesthetics has been an inspiration to me. Whether it was popping in the VHS tape for the 1982 film back when I was but a boy of ten or heading to see "TRON Legacy" in theaters with friends when it came out in 2010 to even clocking in my time to the countless video games based off the Grid, I owe a lot to the digital franchise that could.

Of course, the thing with "TRON Ares" is that it's a bit of a significant shift in the franchise. For starters, it's a complete reset button of Joseph Kosinski's prior "TRON Ascension" pitch, since the Mouse House essentially shelved it back in the day when Brad Bird's "Tomorrowland" cost the company a couple million in losses (it wasn't that bad thoooooough). The second is the most obvious: director Joachim Ronning is a director who one can read his filmography and see mixed bag results with and trusting him with the digital experience could prove a risky one. Third? The choice of its lead actor: Jared Leto. I'm sure I don't need to explain why this choice is divisive, but if you've seen the production of "Suicide Squad" (the 2016 one, not The) and "Morbius", then you probably know why.

Nonetheless, I've grown close to the idea that perhaps Ares might have some merit behind it besides being a giant reset button of sorts: for starters, the plot is leaning in the direction of digital meeting the real world, something that was already established in "TRON Legacy" and is now seeing fruition here with a commentary on artificial intelligence. There's also the soundtrack led by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross (or more properly, for this film's case, their band Nine Inch Nails, which is... insanely hype), to which, BTW, I called as far back as April 2024 with some friends on a Discord server when I shared a piece off the "Challengers" soundtrack:

All in all, while I have my cautiousness, the optimism wins here. And for a film like this, I think it's best to carry a bit of optimism because it's what may lead to more in the franchise. Besides, we're getting this and a new game this year with Bithell's "TRON Catalyst", sooo... can we get some Lorcana rep next? C'mon, you know you wanna, Disney...

For this piece, I based it off the screenshots that Disney has released so far, behind-the-scenes pics of Jared Leto in the Grid suit from their shooting in Vancouver and then what I could see from the D23 teaser (shhhhhh, I needed references), mixing it in with a "TRON Uprising"-style influence. The tricky thing is trying to keep the character and actor looking like the character and actor without losing definitive features, something tricky with Robert Valley's art style for the show, but yet something he did well with CLU's character in-show too. But all in all, between that and a near furious digital look, I think I did pretty well! Text and textless versions above, of course!

If you don't know, "TRON Ares" comes out October 10, 2025. And Disney better get the first teaser out sometime in the near future~

(P.S: If you also don't know, "Something I Can Never Have" is a song title from Nine Inch Nails album Pretty Hate Machine and amazingly enough, a reworked version of that song serenaded the D23 trailer for "TRON Ares". Doubles as a reference to both its artists and to what I'm theorizing is Ares's character!)

[veedyveen]

watched the new funny marco ep with jared mccain and thought this was sooo cute

[mhexart]

Tron 3 news means I get to hyperfixate on men in helmets again

[jacarandaaaas]

another question! So the magic of encanto can do a lot of things as we know. I’ve been wondering does it effect their life spans? like we know julietas food heals but does it lengthen life? do those with gifts have enhanced endurance or pain tolerance? maybe they even live longer? like what are the effects of the magic on the persons body?

[uncouth-the-fifth]

who was going to tell me that jared hosted a show on mtv in 2007 that’s considered lost media now… during my lost media deep dive!!! who!!!

[dovey28]

trapped on floor in three towels artificial sun so hot face burn ive been in burning bush. surely lesbian hardcore sex movie. cant articulate pen pencil paint brush with paint. stuck on flloor. revised tasks couldnt complete Nirmal. i dont understand this person "your name is boring almost as boring as mine"

and they it is replaced by them no choice to me.

floor for a while time for codeine

[shallowseeker]

Zach I

Zach II

Zach III

Cas can DIE?! Say it ain't so!

Bobby, demoralized

Dean and Cas's mutual, pissy fatalism

Love blooming, personal space

You're not much fun, so why am I laughing so hard?

Dean's anxiety at being a vessel

Sam: Guess what? I'm a vessel, too! Everyone, please panic.

Recruiting Dean

So I don't lose them later...

Stupid amounts of having fun, though...

[future-dregs]

(Jealous isnt quite the right word but it's all I got right now so I'm gonna use it)

I'm really jealous of the relationship that Jared seems to have with masculinity and the men around him. It looks so fun! He seems so happy, and relaxed and comfortable. And he makes the people around him comfortable too! He seems to put people at ease with his masculinity. And I just wonder how you go about getting there. Cause I know he's had pains and issues. I'm not looking at him and thinking that he didnt have to work for it, or that everything is always as good and easy as it looks, but I do wonder like how do you do it? How does he do it? Is it just a natural component of himself or did he create it? Can I do it, too? Or is it a privilege of being big and tall? I'm a short grumpy melancholic pushing thirty surrounded by masculinity I do not want to emulate even if I like some of the trappings of it.

I want to hug and kiss and roll around and wrestle men and have them be my friends! and be tender without having to preface it. And I want it to be reciprocated back to me!

And he makes it look so good. And he was doing it when he was young, younger than me! He kisses his friends when he greets them and smacks them on the chest and he seems so....genuine. and happy. And I want that.

[laf-outloud]

@genpadalecki They say @houseofrandall’s debut novel “The Unfortunate Side Effects of Heartbreak & Magic” is like #GirlmoreGirls meets “Practical Magic.” As someone who loves magic (🙋🏻‍♀️) and someone who might know a thing or two about Gilmore Girls (🙋🏼‍♂️), Jared and I thought this would be the perfect October read! Pick up your copy of this warm, witchy book and read along with us to get into #spookyseason! Stay tuned for details about our conversation with this exciting new author.

And thank you to @cadlymack for always having the best taste in books and putting this magical story on our shelves!

The couple that reads together.... lol!

[fratercrucis]

I get a boner every time jared padalecki transitions from sam to gadreel to sam

[akf1x]

i just started watching spn and wanted to edit them :P scp: s.mscenes & s.cenepqcks on insta

[grunge-mermaid]

that was the most stressful fucking hockey game I have ever watched in my god damn life