#language: mongolian

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Tracklist:

Зүүд Нойрондоо [Zuud Noirondoo] • Цэнхэр Нүд [Tsenkher Nud] • Будыг Анх Хараад Төрсөн Сэтгэгдэл [Budiig Ankh Haraad Tursun Setgegdel] • Элэг Бөөр [Eleg Buur] • Хайртай... [Khairtai...] • Мэлхий Гүнж [Melkhii Gunj] • Ш**си Ма [Sh***si Ma] • Гэрэлт Хотын Гудамж [Gerelt Khotiin Gudamj] • ...Харах Дуртай [...Harah Durtai] • Улаанбаатарын Үдэш [Ulaanbaatariin Udesh]

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[slavic-roots-western-mind]

Mogolian Language Resources

I finally got around to combining and sorting through the various material, so here are the materials that I currently use!

Memrises Mongolian 1/Mongolian 2 Great courses for learning the alphabet (the non-traditional Cyrillic script) and some basics e.g. introduction, some basic verbs.

CJV Langs Traditional Mongolian Script. A solid intro to the traditional writing script. I'm sticking to the cyrillic script for now, but this may come in useful in the future.

Open163 Mongolian Basics (Chinese). Another great video course from Inner Mongolia University for learning mongolian basics and pronunciation. The only possible issue is that it's entirely in Chinese and the traditional script is used.

MGL Radio. My level isn't high enough to understand it, but for now it's good to understand how spoken mongolian sounds and later for listening practise.

Radio Garden. This site allows you to listen to various radio programs from pretty much any country in the world, so it's great not just for mongolian.

MNB. This newsite may be currently a tad too advanced, but it's still good reading practice nonetheless.

This site. I love this site, this is a free collection of works in and translated into Mongolian. Reading Dostoevsky in Mongolian is a challenge that I one day will attempt.

Apps

Gertrainer. This is a relatively new app (6 months old?), which had a pretty good collection of vocabulary. The only downside is that the pronunciation recordings are available only in the paid version which comes at around 5 euros per month or 30 per year. Something to consider if I choose to study Mongolian more intensively, but for now I'm quite content with my current pace.

Ling. This seems to be also ok, but it charges a subscription fee and I am not ready for this commitment yet.

Simply. This is quite basic but it covers some vocab in the free version, with the rest of the vocab charging a fee.

Learn Mongolian. This is also has quite a solid vocabulary set, with pronunciations included.

There appear to be quite a few language schools offering lessons over zoom and classes in person (in Mongolia) but I have no idea if they're legitimate or not.

[gacougnol]

Mongolian poem written in Mongolian bitchig (which is written vertically and from left to right)

Tatar Tonga is Uighur. He is mainly known for having, after being captured by Genghis Khan in the 13th century, created the first Mongolian writing, the Mongolian bitchig (Mongolian script), also called tsagaan bichig (white head) or hurum bitchig or traditional Mongolian alphabet. This writing is an alphabet derived from the Uighur alphabet and adapted to the Mongolian language.

[eri-pl]

Silm Advent calendar 19: Maternity

Warnings: pregnancy, mention of children mortality, implication of offscreen sex (most shippy scene I wrote in a long time, but it's still entirely SFW), old couple being flirty, a linguistic pun which Tolkien would probably hate, and weird characters names (for a reason, but is this a good reason?). Also, the setting is also further from mainstream Silm than in the others. It is still canon compatible, it's just one of the empty spaces on the margins of the central story

Once there was a couple who could not have a child. So the wife went to a fire and asked for a child. But Psta was not this wife, even though she kept the fire lit at every place they settled into, because the mountains were cold.

Once, there was a couple who could not have a child, so the wife took in a wolf cub and raised it as her own. But Psta was not this wife, even though she would gladly take another’s child to raise, but each orphan had someone closer in the family than her.

Once, there was a couple who could not have a child, so Psta sat in a clearing, in the warm sun, and cried. It was not the worst thing that could happen— they were healthy and had food, and the mountains grew safer with each move westward. And the forest would grow, the world would live on regardless of what happens to her family. And yet, she cried. The pines sang in the wind.

Her people were probably a strange sight for the trees— traveling from far away, they have changed their language a couple times since her ancestors started the journey, borrowing words from other tribes and from the woodland spirits. The spirits told them to go West, even if they themselves did not. Psta felt that it was stupid, but what would she know? She was just an old, sad woman.

The sun went west too, and the sun surely knew what she was doing —  that’s what the healer said. But for Psta it would make more sense to go east, back home, because that was where the sun came from. It was easier to meet with someone when going in the opposite direction, wasn’t it? She wondered how the sun came back east every night, but she had no idea. She was just a simple wife. So, when the chief and the healer said that in the west would be their home, she followed. They also said that the sun first came from the west and that back east there was shadow. They were wise people, even though young.

So she would follow west and not complain about the empty house, where just she and Cern and the dogs lived. But now she cried and the trees lulled her to sleep.

She came to the clearing quite often in the summer and the trees seemed to like it. It was a happy thought: when she’d be gone, the pines would remain. And the woodland spirits, impossible to spot when they did not want it.

One day she dreamed of a boy, but it was not as happy a dream as she would expect. She awoke and— why not? She was old, she didn’t care for people laughing anymore.

She found Cern mending an axe.

“Let’s have a child.”

He laughed. “We are old, wife. Have you talked to the woodland spirits, or bonfires?”

“I dreamed. There is no fault in trying.”

“I could surely use a rest from this rusty thing… but do not hope for much.”

“How will you stop me from hoping?” She laughed like a girl and pretended to run away from him.

A season later, when the first snow came, she cooked her grandmother’s best soup, with honey and garlic.

“What happened? Did your niece get engaged?”

She laughed. “ Not, and I doubt that’s going to happen. But the moon has gone and came and gone again, and my moon has not.”

Cern avoided her eyes. “You are old. Your hair is turning silver. It’s just winter, not anything else.”

“Maybe. Even so, the trees will grow and the world will be glad.”

“You are just as strange as when we were young,” he said tenderly and started eating the soup.

In the spring her belly was unmistakably the shape of the full moon, and everyone in the village whispered that Psta had traded with the woodland spirits— or worse. She did not care.

“I will name him pine forest,” she said to Cern and all the distant family, as they were taking a break from planting.

All the women, and many men, gave her horrified looks. How could she name a child before it was even born — and not with a humble enough name. But they moved settlements every ten or so years, why would they not move everything else? She was old and did not care, and the pines seemed to like it.

“If it’s even a him,” said her sister condescendingly. She did not say ‘and if he even lives’ but she did not have to. Everyone knew how it was with children.

“I’m sure it’s a him. And that he will be a good man.”

(explanation for non-Polish-nor-Czech people)

(explanation for people not interested in niche Silm characters)

[kkulbeolyeonghwa]

January language log

AINU - I started my second notebook and am already approaching its middle point (???) I love the language. I have been considering going on exchange just to study it for a while but I have no time

KOREAN - impeachment & martial law vocabulary boosted 100%

JAPANESE - I have been putting off learning Japanese for a while now as it's not as important as the other languages but I have been learning more through Okinawan

OKINAWAN - Oh my god. I have been so busy! I have been hating all the sources available so I made my own textbooks (two of them), learning as I go. I shared them with my friend who is also interested in the language. I love the verb types after years of being so confused!

R**SIAN - For my degree. It's not mandatory but I want to learn the language to have access to the amazing selection of literature from my field!

MANDARIN - I have been wanting to learn Mandarin a bit more actively for linguistic purposes. My HSK level is somewhere between 2 and 3 I think

NORTH SÁMI - I have been taking a break for a few weeks after my first exam. Now I need to pick it up again to take the second course in autumn!

[bxrleskque]

does anyone have links to mongolian resources?

[cookinguptales]

that moment when you are googling images of various types of women as character inspiration for your next story and you see a photo and you're like "oh!! yes, that's a good one!" and then you click on the source so you can save it and then you find yourself on some kind of mongolian mail-order bride site and you're like

jesus god what did I just teach the algorithm

[scarletlich]

I wish people knew that Chinese doesn’t have “a different alphabet”, it just doesn’t have an alphabet. I wish people knew that Mandarin is a spoken version of Chinese and it is meaningless to say “written in Mandarin”. Written Chinese only distinguishes between simplified and traditional.

[haveyoulistenedtothisalbum-poll]

Tracklist:

Black Heart • Arvan Ald Guulin Honshoor • Fable of Mangas • Nomin Dalai • Tes River's Hymn • Ten Years • The Dream About Ancient City • Praise For Fine Horse • The End Of The World • Wisdom Eyes • The Stubborn • Three Years Old Warrior

Submitter's Note: re-recording of some of their older songs

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[slavic-roots-western-mind]

Discovered that there are regular flights between Germany and Mongolia so decided to give Mongolian another try. I was pleasantly shocked to discover that there are now more and better learning resources available.

My main mistake was relying solely on english teaching material, I completely forgot that I know other languages e.g. Chinese and the resources found on Baidu look promising.

I might make a post with the resources and material at some point, but for now I need to sort out what's useful and what's not suitable yet.

Who knows, perhaps a summer exploring Mongolia isn't such a distant ethereal dream after all.

[yugoslavicgirlie]

What languages do u want to learrn other than russian?

Hiii!

Thanks for asking!

I wish to learn greek, german, french, or hebrew!

Maybe even turkish or arabic!

But I've always wanted to learn mongolian too, not gonna lie!

ALL THOSE LANGUAGES SEEM SO COOL I CAN'T CHOOSEEEE

[covenawhite66]

1. Ge’ez Script

Ge’ez language is now generally only used as a liturgical language for Ethiopian Orthodox Church. Ge’ez script is used in Amharic, Tigrinya, Bilen, etc.

The Ge’ez script is an alphasyllabic writing system. The syllabary today has 26 consonantal letters with several forms vowel are diacritic marks fused to the letter.

2. Quipu

Incan Empire quipus were recording devices made from string. They were used to record mainly numerical data, such as taxes, census numbers, and calendrical information

These data were recorded onto the string in a series of knots of different types, each denoting different numbers.

3. Tengwar

J.R.R Tolkien writing systems created by J.R.R Tolkien an avid linguist who added his expertise in the field to his creative works of fiction.

One of several writing systems for the languages used in Middle Earth.

4. Rongorongo

Found on Rapa Nui AKA Easter Island. Rongorongo is a series of glyphs about which we know virtually nothing.

5. Sinhala Script

Used by the Sri Lankans to write the Sinhalese language, as well as the holy languages of Pali and Sanskrit, the Sinhala script is easily one of the most beautiful scripts in the world. It is used by the 16 million Sinhala speakers of Sri Lanka.

The Sinhala script is a syllabary and is written from left to right.

6. Classical Mongolian Script

This writing system enjoyed prominence throughout Mongolia for over 700 years until it was supplanted by the Cyrillic script, a result of being within the Soviet sphere of influence.

Invented by a Uyghur scribe by the name of Tata-Tongoone. Classical Mongolian of the few systems to be written vertically and left to right instead of right to left.

7. Nüshu

Used in Jiangyong County in Hunan Province in Southern China. Because of strict laws of patriarchal Confucianism that forbade women from doing many things.Women invented a writing system that they could claim as their own and as a way of rebelling against the patriarchal system

Nüshu was born and was used for writing personal diaries and letters between close female friends. It has 600 to 700 symbols represent a phonetic syllable.

[godlymiseryclub]

[kkulbeolyeonghwa]

Another study update after two months ⊹₊｡ꕤ˚₊⊹

These last two months, I've been studying for the university entrance exams, so I've been studying other stuff more. I could go on and on about how I hate these upcoming exams but let's not get into it

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Korean

My Korean reading skills are good, but I have trouble producing text and speech. I've been focusing on immersion more again after for like two years of not caring much.

Ainu & Japanese

These two actually go hand-in-hand now. All the Ainu content I read has Japanese subtitles, so whatever I read in Ainu I also get to read in Japanese. I also take notes in Japanese. Ainu has been surprisingly easy for me. I wish there was more content about it in English (or maybe I need to make it? Would you read it?) because this language is so fun and easy in my opinion!

Dutch

I've been studying Dutch steadily but I feel little progress. It's so similar to Swedish that I understand most texts already. I need to focus on output more.

Mongolian

No progress this time.

Hawaiian

I've been studying it on and off, but I've gotten stuck many times by all the word order rules and other stuff. The lack of resources is also annoying me.

Mandarin & Cantonese

Not much regular studying but a lot of passive input.

Tibetan

Some beginner practice. Tibetan has a lot of resources which surprised me! The spelling is complicating my journey but I feel like this language is beautiful and I will not let it stand in my way!

That should be all. I hope my exams go well!

[robot-roadtrip-rants]

me using my decades-old knowledge of Bulgarian Cyrillic to flail my way through Russian text: haha yes! i'm so good at language!