#notes about izzie

[izzyzalezbian]

[asneakyfox]

so i do think the s1 lines about izzy working for ed because he was "honored to work for the legendary blackbeard" imply that ed was already The Legendary Blackbeard by the time he met izzy, but you COULD read that line otherwise.

imo the stronger indication though is the fact that calico jack says "izzy hands sent me."

if the three of them grew up together on hornigold's ship like you see in a lot of fic and art there is no way jack would be referring to izzy by his full first and last name as if there's any chance ed wouldn't know which izzy he's referring to. that would be an insane way to talk about someone you and the person you're talking to have both known for decades by anyone's standards, and ESPECIALLY for jack who seems to be a compulsive nicknamer of everyone and everything around him. if jack thought of izzy...well i was going to say "as someone he knew well" but really if jack ever had any reason to think about izzy much at all he'd have a custom nickname for the dude and he certainly would not be referring to him by his full government name. cj just is not a guy who's going to ever refer to anyone by full name unless he considers them basically a stranger. jack and izzy have met a handful of times before and they've never exchanged more than like three sentences in any single conversation before making their deal in s1. and since we know jack and ed DID grow up together on hornigold's ship, this only makes sense if izzy wasn't a part of ed's life until well after that point.

[witchlingcirce]

any thoughts or updates on sizzy

My monthly sizzy ask… whoever you are, THANK YOU 😭😭

Anyways onto updates: we got confirmed what there better in black story will be about a couple of weeks ago:

Now opinions on this??? I actually really wanted them to get like, an all brand new story HOWEVER; I am almost known as the biggest complainer that the sizzy engagement story was about Clace SO she did this for me and I’m also REALLY excited no matter what I thought it’d be haha. My cuties deserve everything in the entire worldDDDD also I can’t wait to see Simon propose LOL, like that’s the thing I was so upset we didn’t get to see in the short story!

It’s gonna go something like:

*kills demons*

Simon: will you marry me??

Izzy: what did you just say to me

HAHAHA I don’t like I’m sure she will be really confused for one second and than Simon’s gonna go “omg nooo I didn’t mean it” and she will be like “DUH I’ll marry u” and than BOOM happy and joyous stuff.

As for current Sizzy thoughts?? Most my thoughts have been elsewhere BUT I feel like Simon is having a lot of fun playing marvel rivals and I think he gets Izzy into it and she goes absolutely ham on the game, IK she’s maining pyschlocke!!!

[seventeenlovesthree]

Your resident Taikoura president took over two decades to realize that these two scenes are actually parallels to one another.

Probably because they're not playing out in the exact same way and don't have the same weight in the grand scheme of things; one moment is framing a B plot, the other is sprinkled into the A plot, but more in the back. But in the end, they have, indeed, several things in common:

Taichi Yagami may need a while to get over his own stubbornness, but once it hits him, once he's realized that he was in the wrong, he will take the step to apologize.

Note that in both scenes, he is not being 100% straightforward - in Sora's case, he is sending a mail, in Koushirou's, he can't look him in the eyes. There is a sense of shame, of guilt; it took him a while in both cases (days in the former, minutes in the latter) to realize his wrongs after all, that he may have been insensitive to some degree, so it takes a bit of courage to get out the correct words...

On the other hand, one may want to argue that the "reasons" for their fights seem rather "insignificant" at first glance - but that is the exact point, let's not forget we're talking about 11- and 12-year-olds here. Without going too much into analysis mode here, both scenes are intertwined in their respective arcs: Sora may have gotten mad at Taichi because she is not at peace with herself and struggles with her identity at that point ("Should I dress more feminine or not, should I change my appearance, am I not appreciated and liked for how I always was?"). And, obviously, Taichi didn't have the context of her getting mad. Koushirou on the other hand historically struggles with reading the room when he is in hyperfocus mode and him reading e-mails in a tone that may have hit a nerve in Taichi was inevitable - Taichi was on edge already anyway and getting unintentionally "criticized" may have been the tip of the iceberg for him to snap. So in a way - Taichi upsetting Sora and Koushirou upsetting Taichi both happened by accident due to communicative misunderstandings.

Despite both instances being stretched out over several scenes, the most important part is: both Sora and Koushirou are forgiving Taichi eventually. There is no malice, no bad blood, no "break" in their bond, no matter what happens.

And in a very deep, meta, "reading way too much into everything" kind of way, Taichi's bond with Sora and Koushirou is also being mirrored with his bond with Agumon/WarGreymon. Because Taichi was reckless, WarGreymon could not have kept on fighting and got hurt. Hence why Taichi "indirectly" apologizes for that too - because in the end, they will only succeed when they overcome their struggles together.

[garbomode]

izzy's not the only character that's suicidal but he's the one whose entire arc was focused on him getting better. that's why it feels bad.

[insteading]

Did we know about these? I did not know about these.

I've been on a no-buy since 2014-- really, I have enough fragrance already, it is going to outlive me. But this is testing my resolve! If I cave, it'll either be for Lighthouse ("sea mist, tea leaves, cashmere, parchment, and amber") or for Jim ("orange blossom, citrus spice, oud wood, nutmeg, and blackcurrant absinthe").

But maybe you would like Olu's tropical fruit and teakwood vibe? Or Ed's oceanic leather/silk blend?

[arsene-fixates]

uuu my friend @cinnamontoastcircuits got me on art fight so bad…

[your-alien-friend]

I don’t like that they killed Izzy, but I don’t think they did it for the wrong reasons like many others have said. But I also don’t blame them for feeling that way. Sure, the show is full of old, queer, kinky, disabled characters. But Izzy is the only one we get to see reckon with that in real time (besides maybe jim but that is done really quickly with minimal discomfort).

I’d argue he’s among the most important queer rep in the show because he does struggle with those things. Ofmd created a wonderful world where aside from little peaks of the outsiders views here and there, everyone is accepted. I love that and would not have the show any other way. It was so important for me to see people like me be treated as just… normal. But there does create a kind of dissonance with relating to those characters because we don’t live in that world.

That’s where I felt Izzys presence allowed them to excel in that respect. He let them paint a complete picture. Ed and stede remind me of my early teens, the discovery of an attraction that feels right in a way nothing else ever did, the sweetness of that first true love (along with the ups and downs of homoerotic friendships lmao). They’re the experience you have with another person. The crew of the revenge remind me of getting older and finding community, the safety and camaraderie and relief you get with that. They’re the experience you have with a community. But Izzy, he reminds me of myself through all these stages. He is all the self hatred, the misplaced aggression, the isolation. And then he gets to be the beauty, and acceptance, and levity that comes with truthfulness to who you are. He is the experience you have with yourself.

And that’s exactly why his death is so devastating. He was such a heavy lifter.

I think there’s also something to be said about Con O’Neil opening up about being a queer man himself and experiencing some of Izzy’s journey with him through the show, and perceiving him loosing that as well.

So yeah I think it’s a big loss that outweighs the narrative benefits. And I think we all have a right to mourn that. But I don’t think it’s fair to throw around all these baseless accusations at the creators. While there’s more nuance to why loosing Iz is such a big deal, this is undeniably not because of writers being against who he was. It’s the classic archetype for his character type, you sin, you make amends, you die. I do think maybe more input from queer writers could have prevented him not being fully appreciated outside of his ‘literary’ function, but that’s speculation.

I’m sad and angry too. But I’d rather focus on what we were given with Izzy and all the work Con O’Neil put in to fully flesh that out. Their story really is a monument to how community and fiction can change lives, and just how closely the two are intertwined.

And I’m grateful for what Izzy got to be. He could have easily been thrown away as the bad guy but instead he got to be so so much more. I’m glad we got to see that, even if his end wasn’t befitting of his journey.

Anyway rip Izzy Hands you were a real one and I’ll love you forever. Everyone else stop bullying David Jenkins I’m in your walls.

[ghostzzy]

i’ve been attempting to synthesize my thoughts and concerns about going on testosterone for about half an hour now and i’m making very little progress.

[izzyzalezbian]

I think we should let Skyfire hate Megatron, loathe him, genuinely want him ground into the ground beneath his pedes, on the sole basis that he KNOWS that Megatron is Starscream's type, and he KNOWS there is no absolute way his hot af conjux has not slipped into his berth at least once

[cabeswaterdrowned]

“The past decades have been stressful for him,” Maura said. “The past few centuries have been stressful for Gwenllian, and she’s out on the counter at least!” Blue defending Gwenllian and dissing Artemus is a win for feminism

[izzysillyhandsy]

Update from my friend watching OFMD for the first time, we've finished S1 and wow - it's so interesting how she sees things, without any fandom influence and on her first viewing!

(for clarification, we're in different countries at the moment, we watch together, text and talk after each ep)

This is her Ed/Izzy theory before watching episodes 9 and 10:

She suspects that Izzy is more Blackbeard than Ed, because he's actually doing all the tough piratey stuff - while Ed is like the front representative. "Wouldn't it be so cool if it wasn't Ed who was Blackbeard, but both of them? Or even mostly Izzy?"

Me: 🤐

Relationship-wise, she sees Ed and Izzy as two halves of a whole, with Izzy falling apart as the season goes on.

Both have parts of themselves relocated into the other - Izzy's soft/loving side is Ed (and only Ed) and his feelings for him, Ed's tough/violent side is Izzy, externalized by Izzy killing for him and alienating everyone.

"Izzy's soft side is dying, because his soft side is Ed and Ed is casting him out. Blackbeard's tough side is Izzy, and he subconciously wants it/him dead because he thinks Stede wouldn't accept it."

Me: 🤐🤐🤐

"Izzy without Blackbeard is exactly what he accused Ed to be: a shell of a man - he's falling apart without him and it feels like he can't be his own person with his half missing. What is Izzy's life? He's lived the life of somebody else. But what is Ed without his other half? What will happen to him when he can't externalize his violent side any more?"

Me: 😥

(do you see how much I'm enjoying myself here? Isn't this great??)

[arsenicflame]

ran out of time to finish my full feelings write up before s2 but i wanted to put something out there before we start getting content so this might be a bit incomplete

ive been thinking about what i really want to see in s2, and in general im happy to trust the crew with whatever they do but there is one thing id like to see

id like to see izzy not forgive ed

ive already talked about how serious i find the act of severing his toe & surrounding details in general and i think, given we KNOW its going to get worse (at some point izzy loses his leg, so) i dont think the amputation can be brushed off as just a pinky.

what i want to see is their relationship worsen and worsen and get to a breaking point and just. when everything starts to goes back to how it was before, ed tries to treat izzy like he used to (not during the kraken era, but before that, before the revenge, back when they knew each other, when they were friends) and izzy doesn't take it. he flinches, or walks away, or does anything to brush ed off. ed hasn't apologised yet, of course, its izzy, its his izzy, they understand each other! or he thought they did but now hes realising that mayyyyybe he should give him a proper apology.

so he does. and:

"i dont forgive you"

and if course. ed doesn't know what to do with this izzy always forgives him, has since they were kids! why not now?

from izzys perspective, he simply cant take it any more. he will take the consequences of his actions, but he cant lie anymore and pretend he wasn't destroyed by what ed did. and maybe hes learning its not just ed and izzy against the world anymore. there are people who will stand beside him- they might not always like him, he might spit and hiss at calling them his friends, but he knows, deep down, he is not alone anymore. and that its time to take a stand. to put himself first for once.

he cant forgive him, not for this

its at this point ed realises that he might have fucked up. really fucked up. its not that he doesn't care about how the crew feels, hadnt already realised what he had done but. again, its izzy. there was a time he thought there was nothing he could do that izzy wouldn't forgive.

the way i see it this is the point that ed starts to properly rebuild. oh he thought he was doing it before but it was more masks and layers, but now he has to truly confront his actions and the consequences they have on his relationships and that maybe. he is like his dad. but at the same time, he has the space to learn that even if he is, thats not all he can be. he can be better, choose to do better, and it's hard and doesn't always work but he has to try, has to keep trying because if he fails? he has no one to fall back on any more

so izzy doesn't forgive ed.

and ed learns to forgive himself, in time. and maybe he will apologise again, and izzy still doesn't forgive him. and maybe ed learns to be ok with that. and maybe in the wreckage of decades of blackbeard and first mate hands, they can build something new. it won't be the same, and maybe there will always be a distance between them, but in time, with work, they can be friends again.

[chibi-scone]

It’s been said before and the fact that I’m an Izzy simp aside like having a character who survives the most certain death shit ever (shooting himself in the head at point blank) and literally being nicknamed by another character “indestructible” and then become a symbol of protection for a whole group of people die from a fucking bullet to the side that was established in universe to have no vital organs in order to “atone for his sins” or however you wanna spin it and have him say he wants to go after (see point one) literally trying to kill himself in the show that is literally about growth and betterment of the self in a cruel world that wants you dead and where the main (and mostly queer) characters survive the most batshit insane injuries is like COSMICALLY stupid writing like I don’t even understand how you get there and the fact that it’s supposed to be a kind/ happy/meaningful ending is beyond me

[divorce-enjoyer]

standing in the corner with a solo cup of flat pepsi in one hand watching the back and forth on izzy discourse but not contributing because i dont know how to say that izzys like. a muppet antagonist to me.