#octocon app

[saturns-rings-sys]

Octocon is a new app for systems. It's traumacentric and made by traumagenic systems. It also has a discord bot that is a lot easier to use than pk in my opinion. You can also sync your app and the bot so you can edit alters in the app. The app is on android already and coming to IOS soon. Hope this helps some people :)

(If you're in a server, I recommend adding this bot as more people are starting to use it instead of pk and tupperbox)

Apologies for any confusion, turns out they have a neutral stance on non traumagenic systems.

[broken-dollhouse]

So , based on the reaction to my last similar set of things , I decided to make proper templates! I will apologize if theres screenreader issues // 'closed symbols' used! You can lmk regardless so I can avoid them / improve these ^^

I ended up making three but only one has a proper description since I didn't have good ideas for the others , feel free to mix and match however! Anyone may use but I ask endos / pro-endos not to interact with me directly , along side we ask you are aware we are very much anti-endo.

All templates below the cut

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Template 02: ꒱    name    e ⏖　prn¹ prn² prn³  terms ⸝⸝

Template 03: ┈ ❛⁠ ✚ name    prn ¹  prn ²   ⁺ xyz trms ꒱ int

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150x150img ₎₎　𝜗𓏲 name ou name 𓎟𓎟 prn . prn　˘ 00 role¹ role² × r/s

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[octoconbeware]

OCTOCON BEWARE

TLDR; A pedophile that has admitted to abusing a minor is in the Octocon servers, and the creator of the bot and the moderator team for the servers have stated they will not do anything about it. The Octocon servers allow minors and have minors active in the server.

If you are in a server that uses and has ever recommended a member go to either of the Octocon servers, I ask that you please notify the mod team so that they are aware there is a predator in the servers they are recommending their members to.

A second post with evidence of the discussion with the moderators as well as the pedophile admitting to abusing a minor is linked at the bottom of this post.

More details about the situation below. Content warning for a slightly more in depth discussion of pedophilia.

The creator of Octocon and the moderators of the Octocon discord servers were made aware of a pedophile that sexually abused and traumatized a 14 year old when he was 18 years old. The evidence submitted into a private ticket with the moderators was the pedophile admitting to doing so in a private message with a user that I will keep anonymous.

After over a week of inaction from the Octocon mods, where the pedophile was allowed to talk in the servers with minors and staff members, the moderator team came to the decision that they will allow the predator to continue to use the servers as "The situation is too old and complex for simple moderators on a discord server to judge." I found the inaction of the moderators and final decision disturbing. The fact that this was all handled quietly and server members were not made aware of this decision at all was extremely discomforting to me. I personally have decided to move away from the bot/app and ended my support for it due to the complete lack of care the owner and staff has expressed in regards to member safety by letting a self-admitted pedophile chat with minors in their servers. I reached out to the user who had initially brought up the concerns to the moderator team for permission to make a post about it so people are aware of the situation. Link to evidence post: https://www.tumblr.com/octoconbeware/775057200100065280

[delphientropy]

yall remember my "working on simply plural" emoji? well get ready for...

working on octocon :)

octocon is an app available only on android atm made only for traumagenic systems. it automatically syncs to its respective discord bot, and you can even import your sp or pk to the discord bot as well!

if anyone would like to know more abt octo i would be SO happy to oblige, its a new app so its taking suggestions and i rlly like it

[octocon]

Octocon is LIVE on iOS!

I'm pleased to announce that Octocon is now available on the App Store!! The app can be downloaded by the general public using the link below.

In parallel with the iOS release, we've also released our largest app update yet for all platforms: v1.3, codenamed "Ammonite"! A detailed changelog will be posted in our Discord community shortly.

[ghost-jester-sys]

Downloaded octocon and have few things to say

Very barebones app right now. Can't do a tag within a tag, which is very inconvenient when needing to organise thoroughly

EG: We like to have folder for "Call To Front" in which are sub-categories of each role for the headmate to choose from. Also folder for "Age" divided into multiple different age groups and mental vs appearance age

Haven't gotten used to visuals yet so may be based on not being used to it, but the design feels very hard to read and inaccessible for us. The accessibility options are very limited right now. It is visually pleasing and has a few different options for the layout but would appreciate more accessibility options especially as low mobility and poor fine motor skills person. Also no way to search for alter right now which is inconvenient especially as have poor memory and use keywords to find alters through searches

The stealth mode works well based on test

Alter descriptions can be padded out with custom fields. However options for types of custom field are limited to text, number and Y/N rn

Think if want to get app, should wait until few updates to improve but for now seems like very good improvement as it is anti endo. Has lots of potential!

[anarchistspiders]

ANTI-ENDO APP

SYSTEM APP THAT'S ANTI-ENDO

If you're a system who hates using Simply Plural and Pluralkit bcs they give horrible and fake information and support "endos", YOU'RE IN HUGE LUCK

There's this new app called Octocon, that's basically like Simply Plural but it actually has real websites and doesn't give any fake information, it's very new and still in the works, they also have a bot like Pluralkit but the response times are MUCH faster and only you can see the slash commands!!!

Please please please check it out if you're interested!!!

Feel free to mention our page if u want when u verify!!!

Hope to see you all there!!!

[the-masquerade-council]

Octocon: A Review and Comparison. (Website link)

I am writing this on the 14th of July 2024, which is just three days after the first public release of the app(on the 11th). So some of the things I bring up here may no longer be reinvent, when it is updated in the future. I've also only just started using it, so there may be stuff I'm unaware of.

I think the 2 biggest advantage of octocon is, first the fact that it functions as jake of all trades, and second the safety features. The app has a companion discord bot, as well as in app journaling. Making it so it has features of simplyplural, pluralkit, and lighthouse all in one. In terms of safety, in addition to options for a pin lock, there are also a quick exit option and a stealth mod option. With quick exit enabled you can double top any unoccupied spot on the app to immediately close the app. The stealth mode being enabled makes it so when the launches it appears as a news app(pictures on the right below), to access the real app just double tap the logo. Also the app having no reference to systemhood or plurality in the name makes it more convert.

I could see the app being directly connected to the discord bot as being very useful for systems that split alters often. I know from our experience we often don't really bother with setting up PK profiles for a lot of our system(and doing with tokens every time is also annoying), so having the app and bot linked is useful. The discord bot commands are also more private than PKs.

The app can be used for front and alter tracking, you can also set an alter as primary front if multiple alters are fronting. Also alters in the app are given an ID number which can be changed to organize them, rather it being alphabetical(one of our pet peeves with SP is the fact you can't make organization non alphabetical, I say a host whose name starts with V) The app also lets you make alter folders, which can be used for subsystems among other things. It also let you add friends so they can see who is fronting, much like simplyplural.

There are also several different color options for the app.

As for the journaling, there's both individual alter journals and a journal

Now moving on the things I like less about the app. As a reminder the app just come out and the app will likely be changed in the future.

There is no in app way to edit the info for the system as a whole, this is done via the bot on discord. On a related note system usernames must be between 5 and 16 characters long, which as you might notice is to short for our system name.

The is no dashboard, and no chatting or polls in app, though chatting could still be done on discord with bot. Also there's no browser version.

All alter info is on one tab I could see this getting very crowded. there's less custom field options(not date options for example) and no markdown support(meaning you can't add images and such to bios and the like). There is also currently not wat to achieve alters.

There is no non folder way to represent subsystems in the app, mean there is also no subsystem specific group journals. (Side note lighthouse is very good for keeping track of subsystems, if your system has multiple I recommend you give it a try)

The app's current front history keeping is rather bare bones.

Closing thoughts

For now we are going to continue predominately using simplyplural and pluralkit. Simplyplural for it's better information keeping, and pluralkit do to its prevalence. However I am very excited to see what octocon's future hold and can absolutely understand why some systems would prefer it over alternatives. I am also always glad to see new system resources being created!

[saturns-rings-sys]

Octocon policy on endogenic systems on their discrd server:

**Our policy on endogenic systems.**

While we cannot restrict those who use our resources, we wish that our stance on endogenic systems is known: Octocon's bot, app, and communities are *not intended to be used by those who identify as "non-traumagenic" systems in any capacity.* In addition, positive discussion of concepts such as purposefully creating alters, appropriated tulpamancy, and "system-hopping" are **banned.**

Debate of these topics (commonly known as "syscourse" or "system discourse") is explicity banned. General discussion of them is okay as long as people are not being targeted, bullied, or overly generalized. Hate speech towards either side of the argument is **not tolerated.**

(I do not have any claim to this information it is copied directly from the discord sever, I am merely sharing it here in hopes it can help some people).

This is just what their policy is for their discord sever apologies for any confusion.

[broken-dollhouse]

So as of late [when we have time anyhow] we've been working on templates / simple inspo for simplyplural [most could likely work on pluralkit / octocon however I don't know especially with Octocons current set up] , and I'm mostly seeing if anyone would be interested in seeing that from us [along side the rare flag / graphic we already make]

[octoconbeware]

OCTOCON BEWARE: EVIDENCE POST

Link to the original post detailing the situation: https://www.tumblr.com/octoconbeware/774788083214385152

The original private ticket was posted on the 19th of January, 2025. The creator and moderators made the final decision to allow the pedophile to stay in the servers 8 days later on the 27th of January, 2025. Atlas, the creator of the app/bot, replied to my public post a little over 24 hours after I had posted it on the 6th of February, 2025, reversing the decision and banning the pedophile. Note that the pedophile admits to being 18 and abusing and traumatizing a 14 year old.

All images and image transcripts I was given permission to post are under the readmore. The identity of the user that reported the pedophile was censored.

transcript below of the pedophile's admittance of abusing a 14 year old:

one of em i was a dick tryna ghsot someone (i wasnt my head was just so full), one of them was appearanlty i sidestepped and had pedophilic intentions, (i did it on purpose so i wouldnt do it on accident at a later time) and the other one was. appearntly i severyly traumatised someone im super closeto???/ but theyahvent cout me ut and it pisses me off?????????????????

i purposefully kinda sought out a relationship one of our alters has with an alter in a minor system, and ditn stop them when it got sexual it was fuckin stupid a nd like. a planned idea to hurt my then friends on purpose, so i would not later do it on accident

good, please hate me/g i might actually cut contact w the person who told me i traimatised them because lautely theuve been saying a lot of stuff i dont understand. For example thwt splitting (bpd) is just like mania. And one of their alters is called "ticcy toby", has tics, but the body doesnt tic and never has?? only the alter does and forces into their chatting text?? which makes me uncomfu cool i dropped all my venting on u now block me cause im sus and manipulative and a pedophile i guess even thiugh i just turnt fuckin 18 a montj ago lmfao

gpod good* you have your morals right, thats good when both the alters are between 25-30 but the two bodies are 14 and 18 its not ok and ur right, good

transcript below of the private ticket and decisions made by the creator and moderators:

User: I don't want to be pushy but it's nearing 24 hours since I opened this ticket and presented this information that I feel is very time-sensitive. Could I get some sort of update?

Atlas: Hi! We're currently discussing this report with our team. We'll get back to you as soon as possible.

User: Thank you.

User: Any update?

Catharsys: Hi USER, I really apologize for the delay. We have been quite busy lately (entire team including Atlas). We are not ignoring you and we will get back to you ASAP.

Catharsys: Hi USER, we apologize for the delay since our last reply. After reviewing all provided evidence, we have concluded that this is outside our scope of actions. While we understand your discomfort, all we can recommend is to report the evidence to Discord directly and let them handle this. The reported situation is too old and complex for simple moderators on a Discord server to judge. We hope you will understand. Your continued discomfort with their presence is entirely valid, and we therefore encourage you to block them. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns, or if we are all set to close this ticket!

user: CW PEDOPHILIA // OFFICIAL REPLY FROM OCTOCON MODS! [below is a screenshot with the final decision of the server staff posted by Catharsys]

Atlas: We've reevaluated the situation and have chosen to ban this individual from all of Octocon's communities. Please don't hesitate to message me if you have any questions. Our decision to take inaction was mostly guided by the fact that both individuals involved were minors at the time of the incident, and that the incident occurred 3 years ago, but we now realize that the possibility of falsely banning someone is much less important than potentially putting our community at risk. As administrators of a mixed-age space, we have a moral imperative to protect our community's vulnerable - especially minors - and trust reporters who have genuine concerns for their safety. We'll do better.

[resistingredherrings]

What is this blog about?

This blog is to *actually* help people with dealing with misinformation & incorrect rhetoric found online by using objectivity. This mainly includes giving people as correct as can be information at the time of posting.

This is particularly for the online DID/OSDD/system spaces, especially regarding discord proxy bots (Octocon, PluralKit, TupperBox, etc), or online system tools (Lighthouse, Simply Plural, etc) This is not be the only thing that this blog will deal with.

What does this mean for me?

This means that you can ask this blog for an opinion or explanation about something that's going on to do with the tech spaces of the communities mentioned above, or for in general, providing I've seen the context of both sides, as well as you providing the information you know to potentially get the correct word out there. This will help me look at things more objectively so people can feel like they can trust what is objectively and factually there in online information they come across in the future.

What is this blog not for?

This blog does not discuss syscourse (system discourse), the validity of people's choices, or the moral implications related to the choices people have made. This blog is purely to just get correct information about controversies out there by contacting people who are asking questions, and the people who are making claims.

General Information

The name Red with they/them pronouns will do fine for referencing this blog in a more useful manner than the usernames this blog uses.

I started this blog because I'm honestly so tired of people saying things to each other without consideration for the person they're talking to, nor any consideration for exactly what people's words do to another person, both online and in the real world.

This blog will not be fighting on any side that people choose to ask for my opinion on, you can say this is me claiming I play devil's advocate, or I'm just playing Fair. This blog aims to only post objective facts and opinions (this means contradictory opinions such as "this is bad, but in this way it's good" will be a staple of this blog).

[octocon]

Octocon for iOS launches in <12 hours!

Join us today at 6 PM ET for a launch party!

WE DID IT! Apple has finally approved Octocon for distribution on the App Store; all I need to do is press one button and it’ll be available worldwide.

I’m aware of and apologize for the fact that we’re ~2 months late on our release schedule, but Apple made it extraordinarily difficult for us to release our app. For those who patiently supported me in the App Review hellscape, I sincerely thank you from the bottom of my heart.

I’m busy tomorrow and likely Friday, so I’ve made the decision to release Octo earlier than I originally planned: today, April 2nd, at 6 PM ET, or less than 12 hours from now!

Around an hour before the launch, I’ll be opening up a public VC in our Discord server to hold a launch party, just like we did with the Android release. Feel free to come if you’d like to discuss our platform and/or watch the ribbon be cut live!!

[ghost-jester-sys]

understand people want use octocon

but before let me say:

atlas's ethic with this app and bot NOT SAFE

neither is their approach to users or criticisism

have been proven to DELETE KEY INFO from announcements and posts

go back on statements and retract the anti endo stance

have approach criticism (for example mine) as if ppl r unjust. i voiced genuine concern for safety that met with ableism as atlas refuse understand the way communicated (pointed out by my bf in the comments under that post) and called genuine concern "fearmongering" to downplay the fact a TRAUMATISED PERSON scared to use "traumacentric" app and bot

released app with close to 0 accessibility. early development is NOT AN EXCUSE TO FAIL TO ACCOMMODATE

[pt: early development is not an excuse to fail to accommodate]

[hughestism]

i love discord servers with pluralkit but at the same time oh pluralkit you are so tedious to keep updated

[ganeshida]

Looking into that new app Octocon and this post will be my thoughts on it

Firstly this app isn't avalible on apple products and is android only for the moment, an IOS closed beta is planned for the end of the year

Secondly the creators are Anti-endo in nature but do not condone harassment slightly more info at the end

ONTO MY THOUGHTS !

Pros:

You can import alters from Simplyplural or Pluralkit

Discord bot automatically puts pronouns after members name when proxying if pronouns are set

The app and discord bot automatically sync

There's a journal feature both for the system as a whole as individual alters, making it easier to leave other alters messages or write journal notes for yourself, the system wide journal is useful for writing down important events especially if you have amnesia barriers it's useful for writing key things that happened or appointment reminders aswell as being a general way to journal

It has a mode that shows it as a news site when you open it and you double tap the icon to get to the actual app

It has a quick exit feature that let's you double tap anywhere that isnt a button twice and it automatically closes the app perfect for closing it without seeming like you just closed an app

The discord bot auto proxy is global and applies to all servers it's in once set

The discord bot if on the latch auto proxy will automatically proxy as the last proxy used and this is also cross server

Cons:

When I imported from Simplyplural none of the avatars carried over meaning we have to redo all of them but everything else carried over fine

No chat feature meaning if you have trouble speaking in inner you have to talk in discord or another app

Doesn't tell you how to make a member register as fronting (double swipe to <- side)

No tutorial

You need to exit a member profile to save it which can be annoying if the app crashes

Front history is harder to read compaired to Simplyplural imo

Loading avatars, opening journal entries and opening avatar profiles can take a few seconds to open/load and I've had to restart the app a few times to make journal entries load

Overall:

Overall I think it's a good app

The auto sync is nice since I dont have to worry about making sure all our alters are registered to both the proxy bot and app like with Simplyplural and Pluralkit

It has the potential to be great and better than Simplyplural imo

I enjoy the way the app looks and the way you navigate and I prefer it over Simplyplural

For now I will be using Octocon for our alter information as for us it's easier to use and more convenient

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Though I would keep in mind the creators are Traumagenic based and made the app for trauma based systems they have stated they do not condone harassing endos but their community is not made for them