#ouroboros lore

[creativeowlet]

and for Him

prefer silver or gold? do they have a favorite gem?

what do they have in common with you? how are they different? would you get along with them?

are they associated with any particular element (air, earth, fire, water)?

do they like receiving gifts? giving gifts? what is their ideal gift?

Content warnings for this piece:

Abduction/Kidnapping, Stalking, Psychological Manipulation/Abuse, Obsessive / Delusional Behavior, Implied Grooming, Religious Guilt, References to Murder and Past Victims, Forced Identity/Loss of Autonomy, Discussion of Trauma/Survival Tactics (manipulating abuser for survival)

If you mean wearing jewelry, then it's gold. Dylann feels like it matches his skin tone better than silver since he has a warm skin tone. Still, he doesn't wear much jewelry, except for a ring now and then and maybe a necklace (most likely a cross, if he's feeling particularly guilty that day). He is particular about not mixing specific fabric colors when dressing himself, so that would also extend to jewelry. If you're speaking in general, it's silver because he has a lot of decoration that tends to be that color, since he feels it matches his house's ambiance better. It tends to have silver picture frames and the occasional cross or crucifix on the wall. For gemstones, he'd go for garnet cause it reminds him of blood without all the mess. The second runner-up is any lighter blue gems (the darkest would be Benitoite, and the lightest would be aquamarine) cause they remind him of Twiggy's eyes. 

There isn't that much in common with me. I created Him as a boogeyman-type character at first. Then Dylann just spiraled into being this outlet for rejected fictional slasher headcanons I thought were too out of character, a mixture of traits of real cases I've studied, along with shitty people I had to deal with throughout life. Though if I had to say, I guess we do have some OCD tendencies in common. We have a fascination with vampire media since I've been into vampire mythology since I was a kid. It's pretty self-explanatory on how we're different from each other, too, since he is an amalgamation of traits I find interesting to study. If I ever met him, I'd invite him for a walk in the woods and push him down an abandoned well hole if given the chance. 

Fire. Definitely Fire. It's dangerous and unpredictable if given the right opportunity. Still, it can also be warm and inviting at any other time. Most of the time, Dylann can be pretty charming but awkward, but most people brush it off as a socially awkward man who means well because he's soft-spoken and gentle. Besides this, though, he hides his urges and issues behind closed doors, but God forbid you look anything like Twiggy. He'll turn your life into a personal hell because his obsession burns strong for her. He's kind of like an oil fire, too; the more you try to put him out with water – in this case, logic and resistance – he won't go out and only becomes more deadly with each passing second and leaves anyone with permanent scars if they manage to escape. 

He loves receiving gifts, but he's a giver in his own twisted ways. One of his less sinister cases of gift giving would be buying Priscilla a My Little Pony she kept eyeing at his work. He doesn't understand why she is interested in these brightly packaged horses, but whatever makes her happy and lets her guard down around him more. I don't know if this would count as a gift, but since he does work with photography as a job, he has offered a few of his victims faux modeling jobs so he could figure out their schedule better to his liking. Besides that, much of his gift-giving is related to his obsession with wanting to remake Twiggy somehow. Shockingly, he has a lot of the makeup and perfume she wore pinned down despite not being into that stuff himself. He has to make sure he dolls his victims to look like his beloved Twiggy, or it won't be realistic. Going back to my previous post, he does make birthday cakes for Priscilla and his previous victims (that's if they even make it to Twiggy's birthdate while they're in captivity). He also goes out shopping now and then for his beloved reincarnate Twiggy, so they'll have something to wear; of course, the only requirements are styled to something similar she wore at one point and in her size. Sometimes, he has a meltdown and takes it out on his beloved "Twiggy." he ends up writing an apology love letter filled with crude doodles or clippings he cut out of a magazine about how truly sorry he is and how much he loves them.  He also occasionally gives pictures he took with victims to them, but he's learned to stop doing this after a few adverse reactions, so if his so-called beloved wants to see them, they'll have to ask him. In Priscilla's case, I would like to mention it is possible to manipulate and play with his emotions to get something she wants, like new music to listen to. Now, what is his ideal gift? That's hard to say. I guess his most ideal one would be if Prisllica or any of his past victims woke up and said with 100% certainty they remember being Twiggy in some way and love him so much, but if that's too much to ask for a simple kiss or hug would do – even if he has to force it. 

[hinamie]

hhmmmmm uh im dusting the cobwebs off my brain trying 2 come up w something interestinf uhh.......anything non spoiler-y you can discuss w regards to geto in the atla au perchance?

hi rin !!!!! tysm fr sending i hope u r doing well <3

atla geto lore fr u courtesy of sam:

he's a waterbender from the northern water tribe. he can bloodbend but finds it distasteful

he gave gojo the betrothal necklace/proposed to him when they were 20 (all of the adult characters are aged up in the fic vs jjk canon ages)

all of his decisions are driven by a desire to lighten the burden placed on gojo's shoulders

aaaaand atla geto draws fr u courtesy of Me :3

jjk atla!au with @philosophiums

[conspicuous-clown-car]

yaaaayyyy two mimir

[infernalnyx]

Oh 682 they could never make me hate you 🥺

[enteragoodnamehere]

tfw your ex-friend/partner/situationship tries to manipulate you into joining his cult

[tiredassmage]

" I lay claim to this corrupted legacy - art of my kin, my forefathers... in desperate, blasphemed hope it'll do us any damn good, for once... Damned. I'm afraid 'damned' is about all it'll get me.., and them. Mark me another fool begging for forgiveness. I merely hope it has not cost them all chances of salvation... "

aka I'm bullying him with picking up a sorta gone-wrong version of reaper sometime during his adventures in the first. an art he was barely familiarized with as lapis manalis was abandoned and the last of the reapers fled a crumbling legacy in garlemald.

in desperation, perhaps, to save his companions some of the burden of hunting the lightwardens, tyr searched his old memories and teachings for any sway they might offer over the sineaters, but such bargains are always struck with a cost, and in a world so terribly out of balance already, gambling his own life for the most fleeting tease of control over such a creature may have been a fool's bargain.

but there's little help or recourse for that now, short of carrying on to the bitter end with a shaky prayer it will not be the foolish specter of guilt with the last laugh at the curtain's fall - or his life might be the least of the casualties.

[aredlemon]

fumcking,,,..,cookies (I couldn’t help myself)

Additional behind the scenes madness:

[louroth]

I’m just curious what Y meant when introducing themself as having (?) all four of the watermarks. There’s a lot of lore things I’m curious about really but this one I was hopeful wasn’t a spoiler so I figured I could at least try to ask.

They meant the four rivers that split off from the Stila in different directions, and those rivers correspond to each cardinal point of a compass! Usually there is a commander for each point, as Riven spans over quite a bit of land. When Y started out they implemented the inner and outer rings, which are like secondary hedges, but more like lookouts, deeper into the forest. So now there's Y who lords over the whole of Riven, Auryn who sees to the inner ring, and Sive who runs the outer ring. (This is why Lys & Sive are only in Riven for a visit - they live quite deep into the forest)

Essentially what Y was saying is that they are commanding all of Riven, and not just a slice of it. They are very adamant on that as a source of pride, having worked their way up to that point from nothing. Love that you noticed that! <3

And thank you for the ask 💖

[creativeowlet]

Ask game, Priscilla :3weapon of choice? any particular reason they chose their weapon?

how long have they been around? do you know their birthday? is their birthday the day you made them or another day? what do they think of celebrating birthdays?

their opinion on lying, stealing, and killing?

how do they move? are they clumsy? light on their feet? do they use mobility aids?

do they have any creative hobbies? (art, writing, music, etc)

Content warnings for this piece:

Kidnapping, Psychological abuse, Forced identity/Brainwashing, Child abuse/Childhood trauma, Intrusive thoughts/Mental health struggles, starvation, Violence/Murder (mentioned), Gore (implied), House Squatting/Frogging, Intrusive homicidal ideation, and Unreality (?)

The weapon of choice question really depends on the situation. Given a choice, though, she'd probably pick a knife, axe/hatchet, or a gun. A knife is convenient overall, and she can carry it around better when traveling after she escapes. On the hatchet/axe, she's only really using that in life-or-death situations if you go the canon route (aka. the good ending). Her nightmare counterpart in Boron's dreams does use it once she's infected by the creatures in a dream — the virus is kinda similar to the rage virus in 28 Days Later and the whole Mercritis urban legend where it's a disease that randomly turns women into homicidal maniacs — even though she really doesn't need it considering she basically has superhuman strength thanks to the virus. Hence, it's purely just an intimation factor for her nightmare version. The "bad ending" version of Priscilla would definitely be here to go in the way of disposing of bodies. For the gun, she does purchase a small snubnosed revolver in canon cause it's after the whole "homeless shelter incident."

(TLDR; basically, she woke up to this person touching her, and it gave her flashbacks to the abuse she suffered, and she basically managed to beat up the person badly due to her flight-or-fight response. She found a wallet with cash and the person's ID, which had fallen out of their pocket during the fight. She took it with her cause it was free cash, which she needed given the situation. Plus, she knew something was up because why did this person have a wallet with a bunch of money and an ID in it since they were homeless?? Later on, she finds out she barely missed being attacked by a serial killer.) After that, she got 20x more paranoid about everyone around her, along with her fear of Dylann's finding and the possible ramifications of that. I discovered she is a pretty good shooter, but she never has to use it that way in the canon timeline! It has a bad ending, though I am playing around with the idea of her using a sniper rifle somehow, I'll have to see how that goes.

On the Birthday question, I am gonna be for real; I usually don't give my ocs a birthday (minus the year) unless it is SUPER in the plot somehow. For Prisllica, I haven't given her a specific date for her birthday, but I'll either give her the same birthday as me, or I might give her a birthday during the spring since that is around the time I made her. Pre-kidnapping, she really liked her birthday cause she often got presents related to her interests, and her mom usually made a cake for her, but sometimes she couldn't help but feel like it was her fault when her parents would fight on her birthday. During her time in captivity, it shifted since Dylann gave her Twiggy's birthday a few days after her real birthday. Dylann made her a cake on her faux birthday, but she freaked out and knocked it out of his hands with a giant splat. Shockingly, it didn't upset him since he told himself she was probably still in shock by finding out she was a reincarnation of his past girlfriend, so it wouldn't happen the following year cause who wouldn't freak out if they found out that information about their self? It's all a part of the process, he told himself. The 2nd year in captivity, Dylann tried remaking a cake in one of Prisillca's birthday photos, thinking it might help kiss her goodbye to what he believed was her fake life. He did a decent job for not really being a baker, but Priscilla refuses to eat any of it, which pissed him off big time. Instead of taking his anger out of her, he waited until the following year to act out his plan. By the 3rd year, Dylann basically forced her to fast for a few days until her "birthday" and then full-on starved her out the day of. He made her a cake - which wasn't even a cake- just a jello with a little whipped cream and a candle lit. Priscilla dove into it since she was so hungry, and it tasted horrid. The jello tasted bitterly disgusting and had a bizarre texture; the only good thing about it was the little bit of whipped cream on it was overly sweet to the point it made her want to throw up. Despite that, she managed to finish it and fought the urge to vomit it back up because she knew he did this on purpose for what she did her last two "birthdays." After that, she never refused any cake and tried to enjoy her "birthday" by playing along with Dylann's delusions of her being Twiggy, so it wouldn't cause her any more harm. She could never forget it wasn't even her birthday, no matter how hard she tried to pretend it was. As the years progressed, Prisllica started to feel a blur between whether she was acting as if it was her birthday or if maybe deep down he was right about her being this girl named Twiggy after all. After escaping, it is kind of a process of getting deprogrammed from being brainwashed by Dylann for 6 total years; she feels happy she can go back to celebrating her real birthday, but sometimes she can't help but feel on edge or melancholy once the days melt into being Twiggy's birthday.

What Prisllca feels about lying, stealing, and killing is complex. It really depends on the situation. She thinks that sometimes lying is necessary but avoids it by keeping things vague. She only does this post-kidnapping, which is another reason why she nicknames Dylann "Him." However, during captivity, she does begin lying to Dylann about remembering being Twiggy, so she'd just be treated better overall and have Dylann less likely to be prone to outbursts and take them out on here. After finding his scrapbook with his past victim's photos in it and putting it together that he has done this to other girls and killed them because they didn't play the part of Tiwggy to his liking, it makes her lie about it 20 times more. Again- It begins to blur for her what she lying about, and it makes her start to second-guess herself. That's a primary reason she doesn't like to lie that much after escaping Dylann's grasp, as it makes her question her own reality too much. She is more chill on stealing but only does it when she needs to, like when she's squatting/frogging in different people's homes. She is 100% okay with taking their food and using their hygiene products to keep herself clean since she feels like she needs those to survive. Usually, it doesn't go further than that unless she spying on the person who lives in the house with something nice, then she might yoink it, but she limits herself on this and tries to do it more upper-class people since she feels like they won't miss whatever she takes. On the "homeless shelter incident," she doesn't view that as stealing; it is more like taking the spoils after defending herself. On killing initially, she doesn't believe it's needed at all unless it's for self-defense. On a few occasions in captivity, she thought about trying to kill Dylann to escape but didn't in fear he'd overpower her and either torture or kill her. After a while, she noticed she kept having these thoughts about wanting to kill Dylann, but she just kept them as thoughts and brushed them off, wanting to kill him due to what he'd done to her. After she escapes, she realizes these thoughts don't stop, however, and are projected onto random people; she feels like Dylann's infected her with some kind of homicidal sickness when in reality, they are just intrusive thoughts. The thoughts flare up worse when she gets jealous of random people and/or finds them attractive. In the canon storyline, these thoughts don't become impulsive thoughts, and she later gets help for them down the road, but with a "bad ending," she ends up acting on them.

Prisllica moves with an odd mixture of clumsy and light on her feet. If she hadn't light on her feet, she probably wouldn't have escaped being held captive in Dylann's home, but Priscilla probably wouldn't have survived the streets as long as she did nor be able to be house squat/frog in people's homes. She is decent at sneaking around, but she does have her failures. The whole reason why she has rips in her jacket and pants isn't because she wants to look cool. It's because she usually gets hung up on fences when scaling these. Also, she gets busted by another character while squatting/frogging at home, but he lets her chill with him. This is a good thing, considering all the other times she got caught by others, she had to flee the scene either because they'd probably harm her or call the cops on her.

Before the kidnapping, Priscilla drew a lot! Mainly, she drew stuff related to the first generation of My Little Pony since that is a significant interest, and she always enjoyed art class at school. She didn't get to draw much in captivity besides a few doodles here and there that she usually hid from Dylann. After escaping, she didn't get to drift right off the back considering everything, but once she gets a steady life again, she probably will make a few pieces based on her life experiences to cope. She also loves listening to music, especially punk music, since her dad was an early punk rocker before she was born. She usually had a Walkman on her during her paper rides so she wouldn't get bored. During the kidnapping, she got tired of listening to The Doors being played over and over again, thanks to Dylann, and to argue, she managed to manipulate him into getting new music for her, which exposed her to bands like Joy Division, which helped her cope with her situation a bit better. It also shows how she gets exposed to Venomous Vipers and Dungeoness, but that's for another topic since those are lore-locked bands instead of real ones. She also plays the drums, but she started that because the guy who lets her chill with him lies about being in a band to one of his cousins who is in a band. He throws a band together at the last minute with all his friends, with Priscilla being vortexed into the situation. Shockingly, she's pretty good at them but can be too chaotic on them sometimes.

[uroboros-if]

Is the concept of ouroboros know in your IF universe? If not could the mc create it? After thinking about its own purpose and/or what would be eternity.

Hi vignacktor!!

You have made such an interesting question, and I really want to contemplate on it more. At the moment, I only chose the title because it makes a lot of thematic sense, but I never even began to think what it meant in lore -- and that is actually blasphemous to me. The most obvious things escape me!

I will try more to try to conceptualize it in the context of the setting, and if for some reason it has not been pondered on, then I think you're right! Maybe the MC can.

Thank you so much for giving me so much to think about 💕

P.S. I think you sent me another worldbuilding ask, and I don't know if I've answered it! That made me think so hard... I'm STILL thinking about it!

[andizoidart]

Previous Idol Geno and his need to collect other idols’ merchandise, he loves supporting the younger idols.

Also free lore: The only idol he’s been able to keep consistent contact with is Idol Outer (Stage name Outkast). He’s the only idol friend that’s consistently made an effort to come see him. Lust is another that he has contact with, but Lust went straight into the costume design side of things after a short Idol stint and does pretty well off of that, working for current idols.

[liliallowed]

I want more ocean au facts! It seems so complicated...

alright!

so we have humans on land and monsters in the water.

the monsters each have a unique lifestyle. some are friendly and feed on the magic in the water (water has healing and life giving properties in this world but only monsters can biologically utilize it because they evolved that way.)

some are hunters and predators. some only hunt humans and some fight with other monster tribes or subspecies.

unlike Undertale not all monsters are built with hope. but some (like selkies) are inherently peaceful.

this world has mages and the magic system is based on the power of the moon's gravitational pull. however the sunLIGHT gives life to souls while the moon is the source of magic.

they are NOT opposite forces. a sun or star's light=will=determination.

the moon or any celestial body's pull is magic and it's specially rich in the deep sea because all the magic thingys eventually float down and crystalize down there creating an interesting ecosystem.

one that can allow leviathans to roam underneath continents and bend realty phasing through stone.

the earths core is another source of that same gravitational magic therefore the deeper you go the desnser the magic the more powerful the entity.

there is a reason why magic is dependant on celestial gravity and it has to do with WORLD class giant anomalies that FEED on planets.

then they crumble onto themselves into stars giving birth to countless new potential planets each planet being potentially... an egg or an incubating period for the world devourers.

are all planets destined to die? yes. do they all get devoured by these anomalies? no! in fact most of these guys die as an embryo in the planets core because other wildlife feed on it's magic and thrive so it never hatches!

most planets that are devoid of life usually get devoured. but if the planet houses life it actively weakens the calamity's power. it can either be fully extinguished, or it can somehow "hatch" prematurely.

and that's how crimson is alive. they're supposedly just a WIDDLE baby compared to how much the can grow... but when it comes to experience personality and maturity? they're more like a playful young adult. (their biology isn't sex based they literally reproduce by dying after absorbing a planet so relax. they're ace.)

thing is these guys live as long as the planet (maybe even twice as long depending on the richness of the magic and energy stored in that planet, drifting through space.)

so they're viewpoint on mortality is a bit... different.

as for how crimson is still alive despite being born on a planet full of life?

Well you could say certain meteor crashed down and pierced the shell, causing a mass tectonic plate shift. this was WAAAAY before life on this planet was here so they hatched prematurely when the earth started to cool down and develop a solid ground.

normally they'd be devoured by other creatures as a tiny little thing but the thing is uhm... they are really hard to chew through for a being born in condensed lava and friking void juice.

(yes this world is a little bit like rainworld)

the lil guy just devoured it's way out of the stomach of anything that would eat it.

these guys are technically mature the moment they hatch crimson is just malnourished and extremely small.

(they can manage to grow as big as a whale but they'll unfortunately only life a third the lifespan of the planet 😔 such an early death.)

that isn't to say they can't end the world with themself as they're dying of course.

[mackachu1212]

Just a video of Damian Spinning

Contains flashing elements though!!

[firebolt-bombardment]

First impressions

[moose-goosey]

Many a doodle

[louroth]

Hello! I’m a newcomer, I adore the world you crafted, sci-fi fantasy is a gem that comes once in a while! I do have some questions if you don’t mind. 1. How advance is this society? I seen the old pintrest board you used that had Destiny aesthetics, do robot exist? 2. Has the world always been like this(minus the release) Id said that MC was using an a shotgun from the old world, is this setting post apocalyptic?

Hi and welcome! 💖 I'm so happy you enjoy the setting! :>

As it stands, the setting is post apocalyptic, but in the grander scale there's a lot more focus on the power vacuum and geopolitical state than the frantic, clueless fight for survival. You as a player join in as society is being rebuilt into what it once was and get to see how they are making it better in the process; a lot of invention and advancement comes from using the now abundant water as a power source.

Even before the Release and the story's start machines and automatons existed, only outside of Riven and mainly in the north, with Oakwerth as the spearhead. Oakwerth were very stingy with sharing their inventions, using them as leverage much like Riven uses the Stila, and Riven wasn't in the position to bargain because they had to keep the town a secret. That changed with the Release- I can't go into exact details since it's spoilery, but I can say that the Release was very much manufactured and not just an accident if you catch my drift. lol.

For the sake of making it easy to imagine, I'd liken the world to a mix of steampunk with airships and intricate technology, along with the fantasy aspect of magic, floating islands, mysterious forests, fantasy races and living gods. I hope that makes sense! 😂

Do robots exist? Yes, in Oakwerth, and in a minor way as the messenger bugs Iontif introduces you to in the intro. In the story at the current moment, S is working on a mecha titan like the ones you see in Pacific Rim. A sneakpeek of a work in progress of S's 101(the height is off, I don't think triple height is enough tbh);

Hope that answers your Q, and thank you for the message! 💖